Igraču iz Nemačke je poništen bonus dobitak zbog kršenja pravila bonusa. Kazino je pružio dokaze koji sugerišu da je igrač koristio rupu u igri kako bi lako prebacio bonus saldo u pravi novac kako bi izbegao zahteve za klađenje. Žalba je odbijena.
The player from Germany had his bonus winnings canceled due to a bonus rules violation. The casino provided evidence suggesting that the player used a loophole in a game to easily transfer bonus balance into real money to avoid the wagering requirements. The complaint was rejected.
Igraču iz Nemačke je poništen bonus dobitak zbog kršenja pravila bonusa. Kazino je pružio dokaze koji sugerišu da je igrač koristio rupu u igri kako bi lako prebacio bonus saldo u pravi novac kako bi izbegao zahteve za klađenje. Žalba je odbijena.
Zdravo
deponovao sam 200 evra uz prvi bonus dobrodošlice
i dobiti 100 posto bonusa.
kod:TROPHI200 (https://betrophi1.com/promotions/velcome)
nakon ispunjenja uslova za promet, zatražio sam isplatu od 2000 evra 8.11.2022.
to je moja prva isplata tamo.
poslao sam e-poštom sva dokumenta za verifikaciju i mislim da sam verifikovan.
Čekam svoju uplatu 10 dana i nije obrađena
ćaskanje uživo ne može da mi pomogne i kaže mi da kontaktiram tim za podršku putem e-pošte. Uradio sam to nekoliko puta, ali nisam dobio odgovor više od 4 dana i ignorisan sam.
Hello
i deposited 200 euros with the first welcome bonus
and get 100 percent bonus.
code:TROPHY200 (https://betrophy1.com/promotions/welcome)
after meeting the turnover requirements i requested a payout of 2000 euros on 11/8/2022.
it is my first payout there.
i have emailed all the verification documents and i think i am verified.
I've been waiting for my payment for 10 days and it's not being processed
live chat can't help me and tells me to contact the support team via email. I've done this several times, but I haven't received an answer for more than 4 days and I'm being ignored.
hallo
ich habe mit dem ersten willkommensbonus 200 euro eingezahlt
und 100 protzent bonus erhalten.
code:TROPHY200 (https://betrophy1.com/promotions/welcome)
nachdem ich die umsatzanforderungen erfüllt habe habe ich am 8.11.2022 eine auszahlung von 2000 euro beantragt.
es ist meine erste auszahlung dort.
ich habe sämtliche dokumente zur verifizierung per email zugestellt und denke das ich verifiziert bin.
nun warte ich seit 10 tagen auf meine auszahlung die nicht bearbeitet wird
live chat kann mir nicht helfen und sagt ich solle mich per email an das support team wenden .dies habe ich auch mehrmals getan allerdings erhalte ich seit mehr als 4 tagen keine antwort zurück und werde ignoriert.
Dear fowi30,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. We are sorry to hear about the issue with your withdrawal and understand your concern. However, please bear in mind that it’s quite usual for withdrawals to take a couple of days or even weeks to get fully processed. This means that it may take some time before your money appears in your account. This delay may be caused by unfinished KYC verification or a high volume of withdrawal requests.
That’s why we advise players to be patient, cooperate fully with casino, and wait at least 14 days after requesting their withdrawals before submitting a complaint.
If your account has been successfully verified, your game history checked, your withdrawal approved by the casino, and you still haven't received your winnings by 14 days since requesting the withdrawal, we will intervene and do our best to help you.
Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding.
Best regards,
Complaints Resolution Center
Hvala vam puno na odgovoru, fovi30. Da li je status vašeg zahteva za povlačenje ostao isti?
Možete li da prosledite svu relevantnu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ? Alternativno, možete ga objaviti ovde. Hvala unapred.
Thank you very much for your reply, fowi30. Has the status of your withdrawal request remained the same?
Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.
nema komunikacije između mene i kazina jer kazino ne odgovara na moje e-poruke i ja sam ignorisan.
isplata je još u toku
there is no communication between me and the casino as the casino is not responding to my emails and i am being ignored.
payment is still pending
es gibt keine kommunikation zwischen mir und dem casino da das casino auf meine emails nicht reagiert und ich ignoriert werde.
auszahlung ist immer noch ausstehend
Isplata je sada odbijena i vratio sam svoj depozit od 200 evra i optužen sam za manipulaciju bonusom, a da nisam bio precizan u tome šta sam navodno pogrešio.
Odigrao sam samo ceo bonus samo 1 slot (slot je bio dozvoljen prema uslovima bonusa) i nikada nisam promenio opkladu.
sa moje tačke gledišta, nema manipulacije bonusom
Dobio sam poruku kada sam se danas ulogovao na betrofiju
Pored toga, sada sam dobio povratnu informaciju da sam u potpunosti verifikovan.
The payout has now been rejected and I have received my deposit of 200 euros back and I am accused of bonus manipulation without being specific about what I am supposed to have done wrong.
I only played the entire bonus only 1 slot (the slot was allowed according to the bonus terms) and never changed the bet.
from my point of view there is no bonus manipulation
I received the message when I logged in to betrophy today
In addition, I have now received feedback that I am fully verified.
die auszahlung wurde nun abgelehnt und ich habe meine einzahlung von 200 euro zurück erhalten und man wirft mir bonusmanipulation vor ohne konkret zu werden was ich falsch gemacht haben soll.
ich habe nur den gesamten bonus nur 1 slot gespielt(der slot war laut bonus terms erlaubt) und den einsatz nie geändert.
aus meiner sicht liegt daher keine bonusmanipulation vor
die nachricht habe ich erhalten als ich mich heute bei bei betrophy eingeloggt habe
auserdem habe ich nun rückmeldung erhalten das ich voll verifiziert bin.
Hvala vam puno, fovi30, na saradnji. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Petru ( KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, fowi30, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.m@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Zdravo fovi30,
Pogledao sam vaš slučaj i razumem situaciju. Dozvolite mi da kontaktiram kazino i daću sve od sebe da pomognem. Pozivam Betrophi Casino na razgovor da učestvujem u rešavanju ove žalbe.
Hi fowi30,
I have looked at your case and understand the situation. Let me contact the casino and I will do my best to help. I would like to invite Betrophy Casino to the conversation to participate in the resolution of this complaint.
Dragi Peter i fovi30,
Primetili smo određene nepravilnosti u igri igrača, prilikom provere njegovog računa. U skladu sa našim Uslovima i odredbama, takve preglede/istrage možemo sprovesti u bilo kom trenutku:
„8.8. Betrophi zadržava pravo da pregleda evidenciju transakcija i evidencije kad god smatra da je to potrebno. Kao rezultat ovih pregleda, može postati jasno ili se može javiti sumnja da je nalog:
- Koristi se kao nerekreativni tip igre ili račun u stilu opklade; ili
- Da se igrači dogovaraju i time narušavaju igru.
Betrophi zadržava pravo da odbije sve akumulirane dobitke u slučaju da se utvrdi bilo šta od gore navedenog."
Potpuni uslovi i uslovi: https ://betrophi.com/pages/terms-and-conditions
Nakon početne provere, bilo je potrebno dublje istraživanje igranja fovi30. Zaključili smo da je igrač koristio nerekreativni tip igre, što je u direktnom kršenju Uslova i uslova kazina.
Ovo je razlog zašto je igračev dobitak odbijen.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Betrophi Casino tim
Dear Peter and fowi30,
We noticed certain irregularities in the player’s gameplay, during a check on his account. As per our Terms and Conditions we can conduct such reviews/investigations at any time:
"8.8. Betrophy reserves the right to review transaction records and logs whenever it deems this to be necessary. Consequent to these reviews, it may become clear or suspicion may arise that the account is being:
- Used as a non-recreational play type or wager style account; or
- That players are colluding and thereby distorting the game play.
Betrophy reserves the right to deduct all winnings accumulated in case any of the above has been determined."
Full T&C: https://betrophy.com/pages/terms-and-conditions
A more in-depth investigation of the gameplay of fowi30 was required after the initial check. We concluded that the player used a non-recreational play type, which is in direct breach of the Casino’s T&C.
This is the reason why the player’s winnings were deducted.
Kind Regards,
Betrophy Casino Team
Dragi Betrophi Casino timu,
Hvala vam na odgovoru. Međutim, zamolio bih vas da to elaborirate pošto „nerekreativna igra" može biti praktično bilo šta. Ako su osetljive informacije, možete ih proslediti na moju adresu e-pošte ( peter.m@casino.guru ).
Dear Betrophy Casino Team,
Thank you for your reply. However, I'd like to ask you to elaborate on that since "non-recreational play" can be practically anything. If it's sensitive information, you can forward it to my email address (peter.m@casino.guru).
We would like to ask the Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Zdravo fovi30,
Nažalost, čini se da je kazino u potpunosti prestao da reaguje. Bojim se da se ne može mnogo postići bez saradnje sa njegove strane. Označiću žalbu kao „nerešenu" u našem sistemu. Razumem da ovo nije zadovoljavajuće rešenje za vaš problem. Međutim, smanjenje rejtinga uzrokovano nerešenim žalbama može pomoći da se promeni pristup kazina. Ako kazino odluči da odgovori i promeni svoj stav, ponovo ćemo otvoriti žalbu i bićete obavešteni putem e-pošte. U međuvremenu, preporučujem vam da kontaktirate Curacao Gaming Authoriti ( info@curacaolicensing.com ) i podneti im žalbu. Uprava za igre na sreću ima više opcija i alata za pomoć igračima. Obavestite me da li vam treba pomoć oko podnošenja žalbe ili kako su oni odgovorili ako to možete učiniti sami ( peter.m@casino.guru ). Žao mi je što ovom prilikom nisam mogao biti od veće pomoći.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petar
Hi fowi30,
Unfortunately, it seems that the casino stopped responding entirely. I’m afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from its side. I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints might help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to respond and change its position, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email. In the meantime, I recommend you contact the Curacao Gaming Authority (info@curacaolicensing.com) and submit a complaint to them. The Gaming Authority has more options and tools to help players. Please let me know if you need help with submitting the complaint or how they responded if you can do it on your own (peter.m@casino.guru). I am sorry I could not be of more help on this occasion.
Best regards,
Peter
Ponovo smo otvorili ovu žalbu na zahtev Betrophi kazina.
Dragi fovi30,
Kazino je pružio dokaze i objašnjenje šta se dogodilo sa igrom „Gold Digger Mines" koju ste igrali u ovom i nekoliko drugih kazina. Podaci sugerišu da ste pronašli i iskoristili rupu u igri koja vam je pomogla da lako pretvorite bonus novac u pravi keš i tako izbegnete uslov klađenja. Sam sam testirao igru i znam kako sada radi. Pošto se isti problem dogodio u nekoliko kazina, možemo isključiti mogućnost da se to dogodilo slučajno. Namera da iskoristite prazninu u svoju korist je sasvim jasna i stoga nemate pravo na dobitke. S druge strane, da vam kazino nije dozvolio da igrate ovu igru zbog njene prirode i načina na koji funkcioniše, to se ne bi dogodilo. Zato smatramo da je pošteno da vratimo depozit igrača kao što je već dogovoreno sa kazinom. Žalba će biti odbijena. Voleo bih da mogu biti od veće pomoći.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petar
We’ve reopened this complaint at the request of Betrophy Casino.
Dear fowi30,
The casino provided evidence and explanation of what happened with the game "Gold Digger Mines" that you played in this and in several other casinos. The data suggest that you found and used a loophole in the game that helped you easily turn the bonus money into real cash and so avoid the wagering requirement. I tested the game myself and know how it works now. Since the same issue occurred in several casinos, we can rule out the possibility that this happened by accident. The intention to use the loophole in your favor is quite clear and therefore you are not eligible for the winnings. On the other hand, if the casino didn't let you play this game because of its nature and how it works, this wouldn't happen. That is why we find it fair to return the player's deposit as was already agreed with the casino. The complaint will be rejected. I wish I could be of more help.
Best regards,
Peter
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