Igrač iz Čilea optužen je za otvaranje više naloga. Iako je kazino izneo relevantne argumente, oni nisu bili potkrijepljeni potrebnim dokazima. Žalbu smo na kraju zatvorili kao „nerešenu“.
The player from Chile was accused of opening multiple accounts. Even though the casino presented relevant arguments, they weren't supported by necessary evidence. We ended up closing the complaint as "unresolved".
Igrač iz Čilea optužen je za otvaranje više naloga. Iako je kazino izneo relevantne argumente, oni nisu bili potkrijepljeni potrebnim dokazima. Žalbu smo na kraju zatvorili kao „nerešenu“.
Lažno me optužuju da sam napravio nekoliko naloga i blokiraju moj nalog bez dokaza i bez prethodnog obaveštenja. Ranije bih napravio oko 10 povlačenja na svoj račun bez ikakvih problema, ali taman kada osvojim veliki iznos za sebe, a to je 1.000.000 CLP, rekli su mi da blokiraju račun lažno me optužujući, jer trenutno je tamo gde su ne žele da izgube i samo dobiju, ponavljam svoju žalbu, optužuju me da sam otvorio nekoliko naloga, traže lični dokument, adresu i osim toga tražili su selfi fotografiju sa ličnom kartom i novine sa trenutni datum kada sam slikao, poslao sam kako su mi rekli i dalje su mi blokirali nalog sa mojom zaradom i bez bonusa, samo ono što sam uplatio, lažno me optužuju i video sam da nekoliko korisnika imaju isto žalba iz više zemalja i njima se isto desilo, sada kazino nema gubitke, samo profit jer je to njihov metod, kada vide da neko dobija mnogo, blokiraju te bez upozorenja i bez dokaza i niko ne pokazuje njihova lica,c obardi!
They falsely accuse me of having created several accounts and they block my account without proof and without prior notice. Previously, I would have made about 10 withdrawals to my account without any problem, but just when I win a large amount for me, which is 1,000,000 CLP, they told me They block the account falsely accusing me, because right now, it's where they don't want to lose and only win, I repeat my complaint, they accuse me of creating several accounts, they ask for identity document, address and apart from that they asked me for a selfie photo with my ID identity and a newspaper with the current date of when I took the photo, I sent it as they told me and still they blocked my account with my earnings and no bonus money, only what I deposited, they falsely accuse me and I have seen that several users They have the same complaint from several countries and it has happened to them in the same way, now the casino has no losses, only profits because that is their method, when they see that someone wins a lot, they block you without warning and without proof and nobody shows their faces,c obards!
Me acusan falsamente de tener varias cuentas creadas y me bloquean la cuenta sin pruebas y sin aviso previo, anteriormente habría hecho unos 10 retiros a mi cuenta sin ningún problema,pero justo cuando gane una cantidad grande para mi que es 1.000.000 CLP ellos me bloquean la cuenta acusandome falsamente,porque justo ahora,es donde no quieren perder y solo ganar,repito mi queja,me acusan de crear varias cuentas,piden documento de identidad,de dirección y aparte de eso me pidieron una foto selfie con mi documento de identidad y un periodico con la fecha actual de cuando me saque la foto,la envié como me dijeron y aún así me bloquearon mi cuenta con mis ganancias y sin dinero de bono,solo lo que deposite,me acusan falsamente y eh visto que varios usuarios de varios países tienen la misma queja y les ha pasado de la misma forma,ahora el casino no tiene perdidas solo ganancias porque así es su método,cuando ven que alguien gana harto te bloquean sin aviso y sin pruebas y nadie da la cara,cobardes!
Poštovani Gonz3832,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju. Možete li molim vas da nam kažete kada ste tačno primili svoje poslednje uspešno povlačenje? Da li sam dobro razumeo da niste aktivirali nijedan bonus?
Postoji li šansa da je neko iz vašeg domaćinstva ili koji koristi istu IP adresu takođe napravio nalog u ovom kazinu?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala vam unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear Gonz3832,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Could you please advise when exactly you received your last successful withdrawal? Do I understand correctly that you did not activate any bonuses?
Is there any chance that someone from your household or using the same IP address has also created an account at this casino?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Kristina
Zdravo, ja sam iz Čilea, mislim da je bila mala greška 😅 ali to je detalj, pa reći ću vam da je poslednje povlačenje bilo 2. decembra, nakon toga su mi više puta (cca 7 puta) uskratili povlačenje to je loše, strašno Čet pažnja, svi čet agenti su uvek davali isti glupi odgovor da moram da čekam, da pokušavam ponovo, da im je spoljni problem što čekam, da će mi uzeti penziju kao prioritet i ništa slično Desilo se, ukratko, kada sam hteo da pokušam da izvršim poslednju isplatu, blokirali su mi nalog lažno optužujući me da sam napravio nekoliko naloga, pitao sam zašto traže lični dokument, adresu i ponovna verifikacija da li će mi ravnopravno blokirati nalog i lažno optuženi za kreiranje više naloga, sve sugeriše da je to zbog činjenice da je osvojio dobar iznos novca za mene (1.000.000 CLP) ja sam ga osvojio bez ikakvog bonusa, on sugeriše da mu je to smetalo i da ne žele t o imaju gubitke, samo žele da napune svoje stolice stranim novcem, pričaju i pune usta govoreći da je bezbedan kazino, da se dobro brinu o tebi, ne brini, neće biti problema sa podizanjem tvoj dobitak, sve je išlo tako dobro, bez problema bih napravio oko 7 isplata ranije, jer taman kada zaradim dobru sumu novca odluče da me dovedu u nevolje i ometaju me i blokiraju bez davanja argumenata i dokaza da su reći istinu u kojoj je nemoguće da imam više računa
Hello, I'm from Chile, I think there was a small error 😅 but it's a detail, well I'll tell you that the last withdrawal was on December 2, after that they denied me the withdrawal several times (approximately 7 times) it's bad, terrible Chat attention, all the chat agents always gave the same stupid answer that I have to wait, that I try again, that it is an external problem to them that I keep waiting, that they are going to take my retirement as a priority and nothing like that It happened, in short, when I wanted to try to make the last withdrawal, they blocked my account, falsely accusing me of having created several accounts, I asked why they ask for an identity document, address and a re-verification if they are going to block my account equally and falsely accused of creating several accounts, everything suggests that it was for the fact that he won a good amount of money for me (1,000,000 CLP) I won it without any bonus, he suggests that this bothered him and they do not want to have losses, they just they want to fill their bowls chairs with foreign money, they talk and fill their mouths saying that it is a safe casino, that they take good care of you, don't worry, there will be no problem withdrawing your winnings, everything was going so well, I would have made about 7 withdrawals before without problems ,because just when I earn a good amount of money they decide to put me in trouble and hinder me and block me without giving arguments and proof that they tell the truth in which it is impossible for me to have more than one account
Hola,soy de chile,creo que hubo un pequeño error 😅 pero es un detalle,bueno le comento que el último retiro fue el 2 de diciembre,después de eso me denegaron el retiro varias veces(unas 7 veces aproximadamente) es mala,pésima la atención por chat,siempre todos los agentes del chat daban la misma respuesta tontas de que tengo que esperar,que intente denuevo,que es un problema externo a ellos que siga esperando,que lo van a tomar como prioridad mi retiro y nada de eso sucedió,en fin cuando quize intentar hacer el último retiro me bloquean la cuenta acusandome falsamente de haber creado varias cuentas,yo me preguntó porque piden entiendes documento de identidad,de domicilio y una re-verificacion si me van a bloquear la cuenta igual y falsamente acusado de crear varias cuentas,todo da a entender que fue por el hecho de ganar una buena cantidad de dinero para mí (1.000.000 CLP) lo gane sin ningún bono,da a entender que eso le molestó y no quieren tener perdidas,solo quieren llenarse los bolsillos con dinero ageno,ellos hablan y se llenan la boca hablando que es un casino seguro,que te atienden bien,que no se preocupe que no habrá problema en retirar tus ganancias,todo iba tan bien,habría hecho unos 7 retiros anteriormente sin problemas,porque justo cuando gane una buena cantidad de dinero deciden ponerme problemas y trabas y me bloquean sin dar argumentos y pruebas de que ellos dicen la verdad en la cual es imposible que tenga más de una cuenta
Sad da vidite koliko je užasna pažnja, ne znam kako će to da urade ni kako su to uradili, ali mi ostavljaju čet uživo sve vreme dok sam u redu zbog nedostatka broj pažnje, ali sati prolaze i to ne menja broj pažnje, pokušajte da razgovarate sa četom sa drugom e-poštom koju imam i tamo ako dobro funkcioniše i agenti za ćaskanje su operativni, daju sve od sebe da ne odgovaraju na bilo šta moje
Now so that you can see how terrible the attention is, I don't know how they will do it or how they did it, but they leave me the live chat all the time that I am in the queue due to the lack of an attention number, but hours go by and it does not change the attention number, try to talk to the chat with another email that I have and there if it works well and the chat agents are operative, they are doing their best not to respond to anything of mine
Ahora para que vean lo pésimo que es la atención,nose cómo lo harán o como lo hicieron pero el chat en vivo me lo dejan todo el rato que estoy en la cola a falta de un número de atención,pero pasan las horas y no cambia el número de atención,intente hablar al chat con otro correo que tengo y ahí si funciona bien y están operativos los agentes del chat,están haciendo lo posible para no responder a nada mio
Hvala vam puno na odgovoru, Gonz3832. Pre nego što kontaktiramo kazino, možete li proslediti svu relevantnu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ? Alternativno, možete ga objaviti ovde. Hvala unapred.
Thank you very much for your reply, Gonz3832. Before we contact the casino, could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.
Dear Gonz3832,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Da, već sam sve poslao Kristini, sve snimke ekrana koje sam mogao da napravim pošto su izbrisali većinu razgovora u ćaskanju
Yes, I already sent everything to Kristina, all the screenshots I could take since they deleted most of the conversations in the chat
Si ya envié todo al correo Kristina,todo los pantallazos que pude sacar ya que borraron la mayoría de conversaciones en el chat
Hvala vam puno, Gonz3832, na saradnji. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Petru ( KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, Gonz3832, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.m@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Zdravo Gonz3832,
Pogledao sam vaš slučaj i razumem situaciju. Dozvolite mi da kontaktiram kazino i daću sve od sebe da pomognem. Želeo bih da pozovem Ciber.bet kazino na razgovor da učestvujem u rešavanju ove žalbe.
Hi Gonz3832,
I have looked at your case and understand the situation. Let me contact the casino and I will do my best to help. I would like to invite Cyber.bet Casino to the conversation to participate in the resolution of this complaint.
Zdravo!
Na osnovu internih podataka dobijenih tehničkim sredstvima, otkriveno je korišćenje istih IP adresa u postojećim nalozima. Kao rezultat revizije, odlučeno je da se obustavi pružanje usluge. Ove radnje su zasnovane na aktuelnim Uslovima i uslovima za našu uslugu, na koje je korisnik pristao prilikom registracije naloga.
Hello!
Based on internal data obtained by technical means, the use of the same IP addresses in existing accounts was revealed. As a result of the audit, it was decided to suspend the provision of the service. These actions are based on the current T&C's for our service, which the user agreed to when registering accounts.
Poštovani timu Ciber.bet kazina,
Mi u Casino.guru uvek pokušavamo da sagledamo sveukupnu pravednost situacije i zato bih vas zamolio za dodatne informacije. IP podudaranje može biti dobar pokazatelj, ali ne znači uvek da je igrač otvorio više naloga. Ima li još nekih detalja koji se podudaraju? Kao npr. mesto rođenja, adresa, adresa e-pošte? Da li su igrači uzimali bonuse u svim slučajevima? Koja je bila njihova nepravedna prednost? Sve relevantne dokaze možete poslati na moju adresu e-pošte ( peter.m@casino.guru ).
Dear Cyber.bet Casino team,
We at Casino.guru always try to look at the overall fairness of the situation and that is why I would like to ask you for additional information. IP match can be a good indicator but it doesn't always mean that a player opened multiple accounts. Are there any other details matching? Like e.g. DOB, address, email address? Did the players take bonuses in all cases? What was their unfair advantage? You can send all relevant evidence to my email address (peter.m@casino.guru).
Zdravo, tim!
Pored navedenih informacija, želimo da dodamo sledeće:
Kao pouzdani kazino i platforma za klađenje, cenimo naše klijente i njihovu privatnost. Nismo spremni da distribuiramo lične podatke o našim korisnicima trećim licima.
Međutim, tokom istrage aktivnosti trenutnog korisnika, identifikovali smo šemu prevare i zaustavili je.
Osnova je bila sledeća:
Korisnici uključeni u lažnu šemu koristili su iste uređaje za ulazak na sajt kazina.
Takođe su koristili bonuse na depozite da povećaju profit.
Identifikovano je slično ponašanje u igri, naime, opklade, igre i metode povlačenja.
Blokirali smo povlačenje sredstava na jednom računu, a zatim je zahtev za povlačenje kreiran uzastopno na drugom računu.
Korisnik koji je pokrenuo trenutnu žalbu uspeo je da podigne sredstva u iznosu koji premašuje zbir svih depozita. Trenutno je njegov račun za igre trajno blokiran. Nemamo osnova za isplatu sredstava primljenih na prevaru.
Hi, team!
In addition to the above information, we would like to add the following:
As a trusted casino and betting platform, we value our customers and their privacy. We are not prepared to distribute personal information about our users to third parties.
However, in the course of investigating the activity of the current user, we identified a fraud scheme and stopped it.
The basis was the following:
The users involved in the fraudulent scheme used the same devices to enter the casino site.
They also used bonuses on deposits to increase profits.
Similar gaming behavior was identified namely, bets, games, and withdrawal methods.
We blocked the withdrawal of funds on one account and then the withdrawal request was created sequentially on another account.
The user who initiated the current complaint managed to withdraw funds in an amount exceeding the sum of all deposits. At the moment, his gaming account is permanently blocked. We have no grounds for paying out funds received fraudulently.
Hvala Ciber.bet Casino timu na odgovoru. Ovo su ozbiljne optužbe i sugerišu da je kazino postupio ispravno, međutim, potrebni su nam dokazi koji potkrepljuju ove tvrdnje.
Thank you Cyber.bet Casino team for your reply. These are serious accusations and suggest that the casino acted correctly, however, we need evidence to support these claims.
Daleko ali daleko najgori kazino od svih, video sam nekoliko pritužbi iz istog kazina i u svim odgovorima su isti i na kraju čine sve da ne isplate vaše dobitke i zadržavaju novac sa vaših depozita, zar ne mislite da je fer? Nije fer jer milioniti put nisam otvorio nijedan drugi nalog, iz nekog razloga traže da se verifikuje račun, tražili su da ga verifikujem 3 puta i nije dovoljno, sad je gubljenje vremena sa ovim kazino, jer vam čak ni mejlovi neće vratiti
Far but far the worst casino of all, I saw several complaints from the same casino and in all the responses they are the same and in the end they do everything possible to not pay your winnings and they keep the money from your deposits, do you think it is fair? It is not fair because for the millionth time I have not opened any other account, for some reason they ask to verify the account, they asked me to verify it 3 times and it is not enough, now it is a waste of time with this casino, since not even the emails will return you
Lejos pero lejos el peor casino de todos,Vi varias quejas del mismo casino y en todas las respuestas son iguales y al final hacen todo lo posible para no pagar tus ganancias y se quedan con el dinero de tus depósitos,creen que es justo? No es justo porque por millonesima vez yo no eh abierto ninguna otra cuenta,por algo piden verificar la cuenta,me pidieron verificarla 3 veces y no les basto, ahora es perder el tiempo con este casino,ya que ni los correos te devuelven
Poštovani Gonz3832,
Pošto je kazino odbio da pruži dokaze u prilog svojim tvrdnjama, bojim se, ne može se mnogo učiniti da se ovde napravi neki napredak. Označiću žalbu „nerešenom" u našem sistemu. Razumem da ovo nije zadovoljavajuće rešenje za vaš problem. Međutim, smanjenje rejtinga uzrokovano nerešenim žalbama moglo bi pomoći da se promeni pristup kazina. Ako kazino odluči da ponovo razmotri, ponovo ćemo otvoriti žalbu i bićete obavešteni putem e-pošte. U međuvremenu, preporučujem vam da kontaktirate Curacao Gaming Authoriti ( certria@gaminglicences.com ) i podneti im žalbu. To nije najbolji organ za licenciranje, ali ima više opcija i alata za pomoć igračima. Javite mi kako su odgovorili ( peter.m@casino.guru ). Voleo bih da mogu biti od veće pomoći.
Srdačan pozdrav
Petar
Dear Gonz3832,
Since the casino refused to provide evidence to support its claims, I’m afraid, there is not much that can be done to make some progress here. I will mark the complaint "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in rating caused by unresolved complaints could help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to reconsider, we will reopen the complaint and you will be notified by email. In the meantime, I recommend you contact the Curacao Gaming Authority (certria@gaminglicences.com) and submit a complaint to them. It's not the best licensing authority out there but it has more options and tools to help players. Let me know how they responded (peter.m@casino.guru). I wish I could be of more help.
Best regards
Peter
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