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The player from Canada is experiencing difficulties withdrawing her winnings due to ongoing verification. The casino accused the player of opening multiple account and claiming bonuses. The casino provided us with evidence, and we conclued the casino was justified, therefore we closed the complaint as rejected.
Igračica iz Kanade ima poteškoća da povuče svoj dobitak zbog verifikacije koja je u toku. Kazino je optužio igrača da je otvorio više naloga i tražio bonuse. Kazino nam je dostavio dokaze i mi smo zaključili da je kazino opravdan, pa smo žalbu zatvorili kao odbijenu.
Osvojio sam u njihovom kazinu koristeći besplatne okrete, na koje sam ispunio njihove uslove za klađenje i sa preostalih 120 pokušao da izvršim povlačenje.
Dao sam sve tražene dokumente za verifikaciju i čekao.
Tokom vremena čekanja na povlačenje, više puta sam deponovao (koristeći neosurf) dok sam uživao u igrama.
Dobio sam odbijenicu i tražili su da pošaljem svoju fotografiju na kojoj držim ličnu kartu. Što sam i uradio navedenom bezbednosnom imejlu.
Iz nedelje u nedelju su me odbijali govoreći da im nedostaje ova fotografija, ali imam dokaz da sam je slao iznova i iznova.
Jedne noći sam odlučio da nastavim da kladim te dobitke, i završio sam preko 300 kada sam odlučio da ponovo pokušam da se povučem.
Opcija ćaskanja mi nije bila dostupna (iako je u početku bila) i ne dobijam odgovore na svoje imejlove.
Danas ne mogu da se prijavim, dobijam obaveštenje o "održavanju". Zamolio sam svog prijatelja da pokuša da se prijavi i nije imala problema, ali joj je pored toga bila dostupna opcija za ćaskanje.
I won in their casino using free spins, to which I fulfilled their wagering requirements and with the remaining 120 attempted to make a withdrawal.
I provided all of the verification documents requested, and waited.
During the time waiting for my withdrawal, I deposited multiple times (using neosurf) as I had been enjoying the games.
I received a rejection and they requested that I send in a photo of myself holding my ID. Which I did to the specified security email.
Week after week I have been rejected saying they are missing this photo, but I have proof that I have sent it over and over again.
One night I decided to continue to wager those winnings, and ended up over 300 when I decided to try to withdraw again.
The chat option has not been available to me (Although it was at first) and I am not receiving responses to my emails.
Today I am unable to log in, getting a "maintenance" notification. I asked my friend to try to log in and she had no issue, but on top of that the chat option was available to her.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem.
Imajte na umu da je KIC veoma važan i suštinski proces, tokom kojeg kazino osigurava da se novac pošalje pravom vlasniku. Kako nemaju luksuz da fizički vide sve igrače i provere njihove identifikacione i dokumente, to je jedini način na koji kockarske ustanove mogu da završe procedure verifikacije. Nijedan od ozbiljnih i licenciranih kazina ne shvata KIC olako i može potrajati nekoliko radnih dana da se ovaj temeljni proces završi.
Da li sam dobro razumeo da je verifikacija vašeg selfija jedina prepreka koja stoji između vas i vašeg dobitka? Da li je kazino odobrio ostatak vaših dokumenata?
Pored toga, ako postoji bilo kakva druga komunikacija između vas i kazina, molimo vas da je prosledite na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk (ili možete da je postavite ovde).
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear lindsaygander,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem.
Please understand that KYC is a very important and essential process, during which the casino makes sure that the money is sent to the rightful owner. As they don't have the luxury of being able to physically see all of the players and check their identification and documents, this is the only way gambling establishments are able to complete the verification procedures. None of the serious and licensed casinos takes KYC lightly and it might take a few working days to complete this thorough process.
Do I understand correctly that verifying your selfie seems to be the only obstacle standing between you and your winnings? Has the casino approved the rest of your documents?
Additionally, if there is any other communication between you and the casino, please forward it to kristina.s@casino.guru (or you can post it here).
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Zdravo Kristina! Hvala vam što ste tako brzo odgovorili!
Voleo bih da mogu da kažem da je verifikacija jedini problem, međutim, kao što sam rekao u svojoj prvoj poruci (od juče, 10. novembra) više ne mogu ni da se prijavim. Ne kaže da je moj nalog ugašen, ali da je „sajt ne radi zbog održavanja".
Pridružio sam se 12. oktobra i imam imejl u kome se navodi da sam u potpunosti verifikovan istog dana (otpremio sam 3 glavne stavke koje su tražili).
Uplatio sam depozite 13., 14. i 17. oktobra od po 30 dolara za neosurf vaučere.
20. oktobra dobio sam prvu odbijenicu, zahtevajući selfi sa ličnom kartom, što sam ispunio istog dana putem mejla na bezbednosnu adresu koju sam dobio putem onlajn ćaskanja.
Sledeće nedelje, 27. oktobra, dobio sam svoju drugu odbijenicu. Na šta sam ponovo odgovorio sa svom traženom dokumentacijom uključujući i ono što traže na mom profilu samo radi sigurnosti.
Poslednju odbijenicu sam dobio 2. novembra iz istog razloga kao i prethodna dva, a to je da nam „nedostaje vaša ručna lična karta sa slikom". Opet, poslao sam sve informacije i na bezbednosnu e-poštu i na imejl za podršku.
Nakon drugog odbijanja, kontaktirao sam njihov onlajn ćaskanje i tokom tog razgovora opcija ćaskanja je nestala sa moje kontrolne table. Više ne mogu da ih kontaktiram sa veb lokacije, ali bilo ko drugi može (imao sam 3 odvojene osobe koje su sada napravile naloge da vide da li je veb lokacija „u održavanju" za njih (nije) i da li mogu da pristupe razgovoru za podršku (mogu).
Takođe sam priložio snimak ekrana iz svog prijemnog sandučeta koji prikazuje sve odlazne e-poruke koje ispunjavaju njihove zahteve, i apsolutno nikakav odgovor od njih minus automatizovano „odbio je vaše povlačenje".
Ponovo sam im se juče obratio sa svakim traženim dokumentom i zamolio da srdačno rešimo ovo pitanje pre nego što budem primoran da izađem u javnost sa svojim pritužbama.
Opet danas, još uvek ne mogu da pristupim svom nalogu.
Zaista ne volim javno da se žalim ili sramotim kompaniju, ali ovde sam zaista bio sateran u ćošak. Ne dobijam nikakav odgovor, čudno i neredovno ponašanje sa veb stranice, i sve to nakon deponovanja.
Mogu vam poslati i dokaze o vaučerima ako želite. Provera njihovog stanja preko neosurfa pokazuje gde je otkupljena (imam i snimke ekrana ovoga)
Gde mi je rečeno da pošaljem završni dokument:
Prvo slanje traženog selfija:
Drugi i treći:
Sve dolazne i odlazne poruke (nit):
Molim vas, javite mi još nešto što vam treba.
S poštovanjem,
Lindzi
Hi Kristina! Thank you for responding so quickly!
I wish I could say the verification seems to be the only issue, however as I said in my first message (as of yesterday, November 10th) I am no longer even able to log in. It doesn't say my account is terminated, but that the "site is down for maintenance".
I joined on October 12th, and I have an email stating I was fully verified on the same day (I uploaded the 3 main items they requested).
I made deposits on October 13th, 14th and 17th of $30 neosurf vouchers each.
On October 20th I received my first rejection, requesting a selfie holding my ID, which I fulfilled on the same day via email to the security address I was given by the online chat.
The following week, in October 27th I received my second rejection. To which I replied again with all requested documentation including what they ask for on my profile just for safe measure.
I received my last rejection on the 2nd of November with the same reason as the previous two, which is that "we are missing your handheld picture ID." Again, I sent over all information to both the security email and the support email.
After the second rejection I contacted their online chat, and during that conversation the chat option disappeared from my dashboard. I am no longer able to contact them from the website, but anyone else can (I have had 3 separate people now create accounts to see if the website is "under maintenance" for them (it's not) and if they can access the support chat (they can).
I have attached as well a screenshot from my inbox showing all of the outgoing emails fulfilling their requests, and absolutely no response from them minus the automated "rejected your withdrawal".
I reached out to them again yesterday with every document requested, and asked that we resolve this issue cordially before I am forced to go public with my complaints.
Again today, I am still unable to access my account.
I really don't like to complain or shame a company publicly, but I really have been backed into a corner here. I am getting no response, strange and erratic behavior from the website, and all after depositing.
I can email you proof of the vouchers as well if you'd like. Checking their balance through neosurf it shows where it was redeemed (I also have screenshots of this)
Where I was told to send the final document:
First submission of requested selfie:
Second and third:
All of the incoming and outgoing messages (a thread):
Oh Bože! Potpuno sam zaboravio! Verujem da su možda imali bonus spinove za početak, nisam siguran, ali da biste igrali promociju koju su imali da dobiju misterioznu nagradu od bundeve, morali ste da položite 25+ dolara.
Pa sam to uradio! Zapravo sam prilično siguran da je to bilo sa Mastercard kartice? (prepaid, pošto moja lična viza neće dozvoliti kupovinu onlajn kazina)
Ali to trenutno ne mogu da potvrdim, jer ne mogu čak ni da se prijavim na svoj nalog da vidim istoriju svojih transakcija.
U svakom slučaju, samo nisam želeo da zaboravim da otkrijem nešto. Želim da budem potpuno transparentan kako bismo mogli zajedno da prođemo kroz ovo i da to rešimo.
Bio bih srećan da odem i da im više nikada ne smetam ako samo ispune moje povlačenje.
Oh goodness! I completely forgot! I believe they mightve had bonus spins to begin with, I'm unsure, but to play a promotion they had of getting a mystery prize from a pumpkin you had to deposit $25+.
So I did that! Im actually fairly certain it was from a Mastercard? (prepaid, as my personal visa will not allow online casino purchases)
But I cannot confirm that as of right now, as I cannot even log into my account to view my transaction history.
Anyhow, I just didn't want forget to disclose something. I want to be completely transparent so that we can work through this together and get it resolved.
I would be happy to walk away and never bother them again if they would just fulfill my withdrawal.
Hvala vam puno Lindsaigander na vašem odgovoru. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Tomašu ( KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš problem uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Thank you very much lindsaygander for your reply. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Tomas (tomas@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Izvinjavam se zbog kasnog odgovora. Od sada ću vam pomagati u vezi sa žalbom. Nisam primetio ništa neobično u dokumentima koje ste dali. Kontaktiraću kazino da bih saznao više.
Ektra Vegas kazino,
Možete li da objasnite zašto Lindsaigander ne može da pristupi svom nalogu, a njen zahtev za povlačenje još nije obrađen?
Hello lindsaygander,
I apologize for the late reply. I will assist you with the complaint from now on. I didn't notice anything unusual about the documents you provided. I'll contact the casino in order to learn more.
Extra Vegas Casino,
Could you explain why lindsaygander can't access her account and her withdrawal request wasn't processed yet?
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Imajte na umu da nalog krši naše uslove i odredbe tačke 2.1.12. Svakom korisniku je dozvoljeno da otvori samo jedan korisnički nalog. Korišćenje više od jednog naloga po fizičkom korisniku je poznato kao „multi-accounting", što je strogo zabranjeno. Nakon otkrivanja korisnika sa više naloga, svi povezani nalozi povezani sa korisnikom biće odmah otkazani zajedno sa svim transakcijama na više naloga. U slučaju da Ektra Vegas ima razumne osnove da sumnja da je registracija navedenih višestrukih naloga preduzeta sa namerom prevare ili varanja, Ektra Vegas može blokirati regularnu ili turnirsku igru i/ili raspodelu nagrada.
Priložio sam dokaze u mejlu. Javite mi ako imate još pitanja.
Hello,
Kindly note that the account is in breach of our Terms and Conditions item 2.1.12. Each User is allowed to open only one User Account. Use of more than one Account per physical User is known as "multi-accounting", which is strictly prohibited. Upon discovery of a User with multiple Accounts, all affiliated accounts associated with the User will be immediately cancelled alongside any transactions on the multiple Accounts. In the event that Extra Vegas has reasonable grounds to suspect that the registration of said multiple Accounts has been undertaken with the intent of defrauding or cheating, Extra Vegas may block regular or tournament play and/or prize distribution.
I've attached evidence in the email. Let me know if you've any other questions.
Nisam napravio više naloga!!! I slao sam svoje podatke nedeljama dok sam još uvek mogao da pristupim svom nalogu, tako da to nema smisla. Ne samo da sam nastavio da pristupam svom nalogu, već sam nastavio i sa deponovanjem. Dakle, vi tvrdite da sam počinio prevaru (nisam), ali da nisam bio dovoljno prevarant da prestanem da uzimam svoj novac?
U ovom trenutku me čak ni ne zanimaju dobici, samo želim nazad ono što sam uložio u ovaj lažni kazino koji nikada nisu nameravali da ispoštuju!
I haven't created multiple accounts!!! And I submitted my information for weeks while still being able to access my account so that makes no sense. Not only did I continue to access my account but I continued to deposit. So you claim I was committing fraud (I wasn't) but wasn't fraudulent enough to stop taking my money?
I don't even care about the winnings at this point, I just want back what I put into this fraudulent casino that they never intended to honor!
prateći dokazi iz kazina pokazuju da je drugi nalog kreiran sa adrese e-pošte slične vašoj koristeći iste lične podatke. Oba ova naloga su takođe zahtevala najmanje jedan bonus.
Ektra Vegas Casino tim,
Možete li da objasnite da li lindsaigander ispunjava uslove za bilo kakav povraćaj svojih depozita uplaćenih od početka procesa verifikacije?
Hello all,
Dear lindsaygander,
the supporting evidence from the casino shows another account was created from an email address similar to yours using the same personal information. Both of these accounts also claimed at least one bonus.
Extra Vegas Casino team,
could you explain if lindsaygander is eligible for any refunds on her deposits made since the verification process began?
Ako su to MOJI podaci kako kažu, zašto se onda ne mogu podeliti sa mnom?
Čini se da je sve ovo povezano kao prevara. Znam da nisam napravio više naloga i znam da sam nedeljama pokušavao da se povučem dok sam još uvek deponovao i pristupao sajtu. Dakle, nakon dva meseca oni izvlače ovaj nepostojeći izgovor iz šešira, a vi ih podržavate u tome. Gde je ovde zaštita potrošača?
Ako je bilo više naloga, zašto su nastavili da traže još dokumentacije (koju sam davao svaki put) umesto da me odmah uklone?
Kažem vam, nisam napravio više naloga.
If it's MY info as they say, then why can it not be shared with me?
This all seems to be connected as a scam together. I know I didn't create multiple accounts, and I know I attempted to withdraw for weeks while still depositing and accessing the site. So after two months they're pulling this non existent excuse out of a hat and you're backing them up on it. Where is the consumer protection here?
If there were multiple accounts, why did they continue to ask for more documentation (that I provided each time) instead of removing me immediately?
I'm telling you, I didn't create multiple accounts.
Nemam pojma šta je tačno trenutno aktivno stanje (jer su me blokirali da koristim sajt navodeći „održavanje" a NE da sam prekršio bilo koje uslove), ali povlačenje koje sam prvo pokušao da napravim je bilo 120 dolara uveče u oktobru 12. (imam tekstualne poruke uključujući snimak ekrana povlačenja tog dana) Tog istog dana sam postavio sve dokumente na njihovu veb stranicu koje su tražili na koji sam dobio e-poštu u kojoj se kaže da sam verifikovan. Deponovan za sledeću nedelju misleći da ću dobiti isplatu, ali je odbijen 20.
Tokom narednih nekoliko nedelja shvatio sam da me varaju i prestao sam da polažem. Moj poslednji zahtev za povlačenje bio je 300 dolara, nakon što sam rekao "pa šta god" i ponovo počeo da igram sa 120 saldo i više nego udvostručio svoj prvobitni zahtev.
Proveravao sam tu veb lokaciju SVAKI dan tokom tih nedelja i uvek sam mogao da joj pristupim.
Tek 8. ili 9. novembra nisam mogao da pristupim svom nalogu sa obaveštenjem o izgovoru za „održavanje".
I have no idea what the current active balance is exactly (because they blocked me from using the site stating "maintenance" and NOT that I've breached any conditions), but the withdrawal I attempted to make first was $120 on the evening of October 12th (I have text messages including a screenshot of the withdrawal on that day) On that same day I uploaded all of the documents on their website that they requested to which i received an email saying I'm verified. Deposited for the next week thinking I was getting a payout but was rejected on the 20th.
Over the next few weeks I realized that they were scamming me and stopped depositing. My last request for a withdrawal was for $300, after I said "well whatever" and started playing with the 120 balance again and more than doubled my initial request.
I checked that website EVERY day over the course of those weeks and was always able to access it.
It wasn't until the 8th or 9th of November that I was unable to access my account with the "maintenance" excuse notification.
U ovim okolnostima, bojim se da vam više nećemo moći pomoći. Ne možemo naterati kazino da vam vrati vaše depozite ili dobitke. Kazina imaju veoma strogu politiku u vezi sa slučajevima više naloga koji su korišćeni za dobijanje bonusa.
Imajte na umu da kazino trenutno radi bez zvanične licence. Za situacije u kojima imate bilo kakvih problema u kojima ne možete da se dogovorite sa kazinom direktno ili preko usluge alternativnog rešavanja sporova, možda bi bilo dobro da potražite kazino koji ima važeću licencu. U takvim slučajevima postoji barem opcija da kontaktirate regulatorno telo kazina i zatražite pomoć.
Iz navedenih razloga, ova žalba će sada biti odbijena. Hvala vam na razumevanju, žao mi je što ovom prilikom nismo mogli biti od veće pomoći. Ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako u budućnosti naiđete na probleme sa bilo kojim onlajn kazinom.
Thanks, lindsaygander, for the detailed explanation.
Under these circumstances, I am afraid we won't be able to help you any further. We can't force the casino to return you your deposits or winnings. Casinos have a very strict policy regarding multiple account cases that have been used to claim bonuses.
Please note the casino is currently operating without an official license. For situations where you have any issue where you can't come to an agreement with a casino directly or via an alternative dispute resolution service, It might be a good idea to look for a casino that has a valid license. In such cases, there is at least the option to contact the casino's regulatory body and ask for assistance.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into issues with any online casino in the future.
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