Igračica iz Norveške tvrdi da je njen račun u Flush Casino označen, a zatim banovan nakon što je uspešno uložila bonus i osvojila značajan iznos novca (40 hiljada evra).
The player from Norway claims her Flush Casino account was flagged and then banned after she successfully wagered a bonus and won a significant amount of money (40k euro). Casino has provided us with evidence of browser spoofing and manipulation software therefore, we have rejected the complaint.
Igračica iz Norveške tvrdi da je njen račun u Flush Casino označen, a zatim banovan nakon što je uspešno uložila bonus i osvojila značajan iznos novca (40 hiljada evra).
Zdravo,
Napravio sam nalog u Flush kazinu 28.05.2023, napravio depozit i aktivirao kazino bonus koji su imali. Nakon toga sam pogledao da ne prekršim uslove i odredbe bonusa i igrao svoj novac na slotovima.
Nakon što sam završio sa opkladom svog bonusa, imao sam ukupno 483 ltc (40 hiljada evra u to vreme) i odmah nakon podrške za ćaskanje rekli su mi da su označili moj nalog (mislio sam da su me označili samo zato što sam osvojio veoma veliku sumu novca ).
Nakon jednog dana, poslali su mi mejl u kojem su rekli da su me zabranili (bez stvarnih razloga, samo navodeći neka pravila (koja nisam prekršio)).
Pokušao sam da ih kontaktiram, ali do danas mi nisu odgovorili. Pokušao sam da se prijavim na nalog, ali je zabranjen. Znam da sam igrao pošteno i veoma sam iritiran zbog ovoga, nisu čak ni hteli da razgovaraju sa mnom i nisu pokazali nikakve dokaze.
Ne znam šta sam pogrešio.
Hello,
I made an account at Flush Casino on 28.05.2023, made a deposit and activate a casino bonus they had. After that I looked through to not violate any bonus terms and conditions and played my money at slots.
After I finished wagering my bonus, I had a total of 483 ltc ( 40k euro at that time ) and right after on chat support they told me they flagged my account ( I thought they flagged me just because I won a very big amount of money ).
After one day, they sent me an email saying they banned me ( without actual reasons, just stating some rules ( that I didnt break) ).
I tried to contact them but to this day they didnt contact me back. Tried to log-in the account but was banned. I know I played fair and Im very irritated about this, they didnt even want to discuss with me and didnt show any evidence.
I dont know what I did wrong.
Dragi victoriakjls19,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu i prosledili svu relevantnu komunikaciju. Pre svega, dozvolite mi da vam čestitam na sjajnoj pobedi.
Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju. Možete li molim vas da kažete da li je ovo bila vaša prva sesija igre? Koje igre ste igrali (kazino igre uživo, slotovi ili sportsko klađenje)?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear victoriakjls19,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and forwarding all the relevant communication. Foremost, allow me to congratulate you on your great win.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Could you please advise if this was your first game session? Which games you’ve been playing (live casino games, slots, or sports betting)?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Petronela
Zdravo,
Upravo sam tada napravio nalog (kada sam pobedio), nisam ranije igrao na ovom sajtu. Igrao sam slotove (Gates of Olimpus) i opklada je bila 8,75 evra ako se dobro sećam.
Hello,
I just made the account then ( when i won ),I didnt play on this site before. I played slots ( Gates of Olympus ) and the bet was 8.75 euro if i remember correctly.
Da li je to bio jedini razlog da blokirate svoj nalog, molim vas?
Da li slučajno znate da li je neko u vašoj neposrednoj blizini ili društvenom krugu ikada ranije iskoristio neki bonus iz ovog kazina? Pitam jer je bilo slučajeva u kojima su pojedinci u neposrednoj blizini ili sa zajedničkim IP adresama bili označeni za zloupotrebu bonusa ili lažne aktivnosti, čak i ako nisu bili direktno uključeni.
Was this the only reason to block your account, please?
Do you happen to know if anyone within your immediate vicinity or social circle has ever redeemed any bonus from this particular casino before? I am asking because there have been instances where individuals within close proximity or with shared IP addresses have been flagged for bonus abuse or fraudulent activity, even if they were not directly involved.
Zdravo,
Da, ovo je jedini razlog koji su mi dali.
Ne znam nijednog prijatelja koji je igrao Flush Casino pošto nije toliko veliki u Norveškoj.
Takođe ovde u Norveškoj imamo samo 1 uglavnom operatera mobilne telefonije i možda je to bio razlog za zatvaranje IP-a.
Hello,
Yes, this the only reason they gave me.
I dont know any friends who played Flush Casino since its not that big in Norway.
Also here in Norway we only have 1 mainly mobile phone provider and maybe that was the reason for close ip.
Hvala vam puno, victoriakjls19, što ste dali sve potrebne informacije. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu svom kolegi Petru ( _KSKSKSKSKS_0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, victoriakjls19, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.c@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Pozdrav,
Hvala vam victoriakjls19 što ste nam pružili sve informacije. Nadam se da ćemo zajedno uspeti da rešimo ovaj problem.
Sada bih želeo da zamolim Flush Casino za njihovu pomoć u rešavanju ove žalbe. Želeli bismo da znamo zašto je igrač blokiran i šta možemo da uradimo da pomognemo u rešavanju ovog problema.
Hvala vam!
Hello there,
Thank you victoriakjls19 for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.
I would now like to ask Flush Casino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know why was the player blocked and what can we do to help resolve this issue.
Thank you!
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Dragi victoriakjls19 , Ranije smo bili u kontaktu sa predstavnikom kazina i sada čekamo zvanični odgovor ovde u temi. Za sada, kazino je izjavio da veruju da su preduzeli fer i opravdan postupak u skladu sa svojim uslovima korišćenja bonusa. Obaveštavaću vas o svim daljim dešavanjima.
Dear victoriakjls19, We were in contact with a casino representative previously and are now awaiting an official response here in the thread. For now, the casino stated that they believe they took a fair and justified course of action in accordance with their Bonus Terms of Service. I will keep you updated with any further developments.
Pozdrav,
Korišćenje softvera za lažiranje i manipulaciju pretraživača je strogo zabranjeno i rezultiraće trenutnim zatvaranjem naloga na našem kazino brendu, bez obzira da li je igrač pobedio ili ne.
Flush koristi neke bezbednosne alate kako bi sprečio lažne igrače da kreiraju naloge na sajtu i sprečio ih da igraju.
Prema dokazu koji je @Peter poslao direktno od našeg predstavnika, ovaj igrač nikada nije trebalo da ima mogućnost da kreira nalog zbog ozbiljnih različitih zastava koje je naš bezbednosni sistem podigao. Iz nekih razloga se provukao kroz koji jača naše sumnje u lažni profil.
Ovo je poslednja poruka koju je igraču poslala korisnička podrška:
„Zahvaljujemo vam na strpljenju
Nakon istrage vašeg naloga zbog zloupotrebe bonusa, bezbednosni alati su identifikovali lažne aktivnosti, što je u suprotnosti sa našim uslovima i odredbama, posebno 3.10 i 4.1.7, što je potvrđeno našim bezbednosnim softverom.
U skladu sa 6.3 Odredbi i uslova vaš nalog će biti odmah ugašen i početni depozit će biti vraćen.
Navedite LTC adresu za povraćaj sredstava početnog depozita.
3.10. Ne smete ni da pokušavate da manipulišete bilo kojim tržištem ili elementom u okviru Usluge u lošoj nameri niti na način koji negativno utiče na integritet Usluge ili nas.
4.1.7. na bilo koji način koji bi se, po našem razumnom mišljenju, mogao smatrati pokušajem: (i) prevare Usluge ili drugog Korisnika koji koristi Uslugu; ili (ii) u dosluhu sa bilo kojim drugim Kupcem koji koristi Uslugu u cilju sticanja nepoštene prednosti;
6.3. Možemo da zatvorimo ili suspendujemo Nalog ako niste ili ako opravdano verujemo da se ne pridržavate ovih Uslova, ili da bismo obezbedili integritet ili pravičnost Usluge ili ako imamo druge razumne razloge za to. Možda nećemo uvek moći da vas obavestimo unapred. Ako zatvorimo ili suspendujemo vaš nalog zbog toga što se ne pridržavate ovih Uslova, možemo da otkažemo i/ili poništimo bilo koju od vaših opklada i zadržimo sav novac na vašem nalogu (uključujući depozit)."
Takođe, kao što je igrač pomenuo sebe gore, on/ona se kladio na 8.75€ opklade na slotovima, dok je maksimalna opklada na Flush 5$/€, iu ovom trenutku je bila stroga maksimalna opklada. Dobici dobijeni iz ponude dobrodošlice bi se ionako smatrali zloupotrebljenim dobicima i poništeni. Kao što je gore navedeno, odluka o zatvaranju naloga zasniva se na činjenici da je igrač otkriven kao lažan, ali bi ostvareni dobici ionako bili poništeni.
Raskinuli smo nalog i zatražili LTC adresu za vraćanje početnog depozita, u skladu sa našim Uslovima i odredbama; i nikada nisam dobio odgovor nekoliko meseci, osim što je ova tema lažno otvorena 3-4 meseca nakon što se situacija desila (da ne spominjemo da su drugi sajtovi za žalbe ovo već klasificirali).
Sa poštovanjem,
Flush Casino tim
Hello there,
Usage of browser spoofing and manipulation software is strictly prohibited and will result in immediate account closure on our casino brand, whether the player won or not.
Flush is using some security tools to prevent fraudulent players to create accounts on the site, and prevent them from playing.
As per the proof sent to @Peter directly from our representative, this player should never have had the possibility to create an account because of serious different flags our security system raised. For some reasons, it slipped through which strengthens our the suspicions of a fraudulent profile.
This is the last message sent to the player from customer support:
"We Thankyou for your patience
After an investigation into your account for bonus abuse the security tools have identified fraudulent activity, which is in violation of our terms and conditions, specifically 3.10 and 4.1.7, as confirmed by our security software.
As per 6.3 of Terms and Conditions your account will be immediately terminated and initial deposit returned.
Please provide an LTC address for return of initial deposit funds.
3.10. You must not either attempt to manipulate any market or element within the Service in bad faith nor in a manner that adversely affects the integrity of the Service or us.
4.1.7. in any way which, in our reasonable opinion, could be considered as an attempt to: (i) cheat the Service or another Customer using the Service; or (ii) collude with any other Customer using the Service in order to obtain a dishonest advantage;
6.3. We may close or suspend an Account if you are not or we reasonably believe that you are not complying with these Terms, or to ensure the integrity or fairness of the Service or if we have other reasonable grounds to do so. We may not always be able to give you prior notice. If we close or suspend your Account due to you not complying with these Terms, we may cancel and/or void any of your bets and withhold any money in your account (including the deposit)."
Also as the player mentioned him/herself above, he/she was betting 8.75€ bets on slots, while the maximum bet on Flush is 5$/€, and at this time was a strict max bet. Winnings issued from the welcome offer would have anyway been considered as abused winnings, and voided. As per the above, the decision to close the account sits on the fact the player has been detected as a fraudulent one, but winnings made would anyway have been voided.
We've terminated the account and asked for an LTC address to send back initial deposit, as per our T&Cs; and never got a reply for some months, except this topic fallaciously opened 3-4 months after the situation happened (not to mention other complaint sites have classified this already).
With kind regards,
Flush Casino Team
Poštovani victoriakjls19 , dobili smo dokaze iz kazina koji dodatno potkrepljuju njihove tvrdnje. Zbog toga, smatramo da su koraci koje je kazino preduzeo opravdani. Preporučujemo da navedete LTC adresu kako bi kazino mogao da vam vrati početni depozit. Hvala unapred na saradnji!
Dear victoriakjls19, we have received evidence from the casino to further support their claims. Because of that, we believe the steps the casino has taken are justified. We would recommend to provide LTC address so the casino can refund you the initial deposit. Thank you in advance for your cooperation!
Dragi Flush Casino timu,
Hvala vam što ste odvojili vreme da detaljno objasnite situaciju. Razumem vašu zabrinutost u vezi sa integritetom naloga i važnosti pridržavanja uslova i odredbi vaše platforme.
1. U vezi sa korišćenjem Brave pretraživača: Brave je priznati i legitiman veb pretraživač koji se prvenstveno koristi za poboljšanu privatnost i funkcije za blokiranje oglasa. Iako ima ugrađene štitove za zaštitu korisnika, on sam po sebi ne poseduje funkcije za zlonamerne aktivnosti ili lažiranje pretraživača. Odabrao sam Brave pretraživač zbog njegovih karakteristika privatnosti, a ne sa namerom da zaobiđem ili manipulišem sistemima vašeg kazina.
2. Što se tiče maksimalnog ograničenja opklade: U vreme naše registracije i igranja, maksimalna opklada je bila jasno postavljena na 20 evra. Delovao sam striktno u okviru ove granice. Kasnije sam shvatio da je ovaj limit naknadno promenjen na 5 evra, ali ova promena je bila nakon naše sesije igre. Verovao sam, i još uvek verujem, da igram u prihvatljivim granicama definisanim u vreme naše predstave.
Na kraju, iako poštujem vaše bezbednosne mere i protokole, želeo bih da vas uverim da sam pristupio vašoj platformi sa iskrenom namerom da igram i da nisam pokušao da iskoristim ili manipulišem bilo kojom funkcionalnošću.
Nadam se da ćemo moći da postignemo rešenje koje će obezbediti integritet i vaše platforme i istinske namere vaših korisnika.
Topli pozdrav,
V*** K***
Dear Flush Casino Team,
Thank you for taking the time to explain the situation in detail. I understand your concerns regarding account integrity and the importance of adhering to your platform’s terms and conditions.
1. Regarding the use of the Brave browser: Brave is a recognized and legitimate web browser primarily used for enhanced privacy and ad-blocking features. While it does have built-in shields for user protection, it does not inherently possess functionalities for malicious activities or browser spoofing. I chose the Brave browser for its privacy features, and not with any intent to bypass or manipulate your casino’s systems.
2. Concerning the maximum bet limit: At the time of our signup and play, the maximum bet was distinctly set at 20 euros. I operated strictly within this limit. I later came to understand that this limit was subsequently changed to 5 euros, but this change was after our game session. I believed, and still believe, that I was playing within the acceptable limits defined at the time of our play.
Lastly, while I respect your security measures and protocols, I would like to reassure you that I approached your platform with genuine intent to play and did not attempt to exploit or manipulate any functionalities.
I hope we can reach a resolution that ensures the integrity of both your platform and the genuine intentions of your users.
Warm regards,
V*** K***
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Poštovani victoriakjls19 , bio sam u kontaktu sa predstavnikom kazina i njihova odluka je konačna. Na osnovu dokaza koje su pružili, verujemo da je odluka kazina opravdana. Preporučujemo da navedete LTC adresu kako bi kazino mogao da vam vrati početni depozit.
Iz navedenih razloga, ova žalba će sada biti odbijena. Hvala vam na razumevanju, žao mi je što ovom prilikom nismo mogli biti od veće pomoći. Ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako u budućnosti naiđete na probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom.
Dear victoriakjls19, I was in contact with the casino representative and their decision is final. From the evidence they provided, we believe the casino's decision is justified. We would recommend providing the LTC address so the casino can refund you the initial deposit.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
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