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The player from Croatia has been blocked. The casino confiscated his winnings and refunded the deposit. It seems that the casino believes the player created multiple accounts. It came to light that the player accumulated their winnings by placing bets on sports. As we do not currently have enough insight into sports betting to be able to make an informed assessment of the case, the complaint was rejected.
Igrač iz Hrvatske je blokiran. Kazino je zaplenio njegov dobitak i vratio depozit. Čini se da kazino veruje da je igrač napravio više naloga. Ispostavilo se da je igrač akumulirao svoje dobitke kladeći se na sport. Kako trenutno nemamo dovoljno uvida u sportsko klađenje da bismo mogli da damo informisanu procenu slučaja, žalba je odbijena.
Zdravo, otvaram nalog. Uplaćujem 650$, igram i zaradim oko 2.8k $. Nakon toga želim da podignem novac, kažu mi veza sa računom mbabić i poništili su mi sve dobitke i povukli su mi samo depozit i trajno zatvorili račun. Nikada ne čujem za ovo korisničko ime, nemam nikakvu vezu sa ovim nalogom. Možeš li mi pomoći. Imam još dokaza. Ukrali su mi dobitak kada vide da pobeđujem.
Račun: h***99
Hi, I open account. I deposit 650$, I play and I make about 2.8k $. After that I want withdraw money, they say me my connection with account mbabic and they cancelled all my win and withdraw me only deposit and permanently closed account. I never hear for this username, I havent any connection with this account. Please can you help me. I have more proofs. They stole me winnings when they see I win.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju. Da li sam dobro razumeo da kazino veruje da ste kreirali više naloga? Ili kazino veruje da sarađujete sa ovim igračem? Možete li da nam kažete da li ste prošli KIC verifikaciju pre nego što vas je kazino blokirao?
Da li ste akumulirali svoje dobitke sa ili bez aktivnog bonusa?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala vam unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Kristina
Dear hmarkoticc67,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Do I understand correctly that the casino believes you created more than one account? Or does the casino believe that you cooperate with this player? Could you please advise if you passed the KYC verification before the casino blocked you?
Have you accumulated your winnings with or without an active bonus?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Hvala vam na odgovoru, hmarkoticc67. Možete li da nam kažete da li ste prošli KIC verifikaciju pre nego što vas je kazino blokirao? Na koje igre ste se fokusirali – kazino igre ili sportsko klađenje?
Ako postoji bilo kakva druga relevantna komunikacija između vas i kazina, molimo vas da je prosledite na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ili je postavite ovde.
Thank you for your reply, hmarkoticc67. Could you please advise if you passed the KYC verification before the casino blocked you? Which games did you focus on - casino games or sports betting?
If there is any other relevant communication between you and the casino, please forward it to kristina.s@casino.guru, or alternatively, post it here.
Javljamo vam se u vezi sa vašim najnovijim povlačenjem.
Vaše trenutno povlačenje ide pod standardnom bezbednosnom proverom, što može potrajati duže nego inače, jer sve transakcije proverava naš bezbednosni tim.
Ako postoji dodatna potreba za potvrdom povlačenja, poslaćemo vam pismo potvrde na vašu e-poštu za registraciju.
Žao nam je zbog neprijatnosti.
Na sreću i sreću.
Zdravo Hrvojemarkotic67,
Kontaktiramo vas u vezi sa statusom vašeg naloga. FortuneJack striktno sprovodi svoju politiku ne dozvoljavanja više naloga, a utvrđeno je da je vaš nalog povezan sa mbabic-om, što se smatra nelegitimnom upotrebom naše veb stranice.
Vaše povlačenje je otkazano i dozvoljeno vam je da povučete samo iznos svog depozita.
Čim podnesete zahtev za povlačenje, vaš nalog će biti zatvoren.
I dont passed KYC verification.
Only this they send:
Hello hrki99,
We are reaching out regarding your latest withdrawal.
Your current withdrawal is going under standard security check, it may take longer than usual, as all transactions are checked by our security team.
If there is an additional need to confirm withdrawal, we will send you the confirmation letter to your registration email.
We are sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours in luck and good fortune.
Hi Hrvojemarkotic67,
We are contacting you in regards to your account status. FortuneJack strictly enforces its policy of not allowing multiple accounts, and your account has been found to be associated with mbabic, which is considered illegitimate use of our website.
Your withdrawal is cancelled and you are allowed to withdraw your deposit amount only .
As soon as you make withdrawal request your account will be closed .
Hvala vam puno hmarkoticc67 na saradnji. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu svom kolegi Adamu ( KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš problem uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Thank you very much hmarkoticc67 for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Adam (adam.m@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Pregledao sam vaš slučaj i kontaktiraću kazino da vidim da li mogu da pomognem.
Želeli bismo da pozovemo FortuneJack Casino da se pridruži razgovoru i učestvuje u rešavanju ove žalbe.
Dragi FortuneJack Casino,
Igrač je optužen da koristi više naloga i zbog toga im je nalog blokiran. Mogu li da vas zamolim da nam pružite dodatne informacije i prateće dokaze o korišćenju više naloga?
Srdačan pozdrav,
Adam
Hello hmarkoticc67,
I have reviewed your case and will contact the casino to see if I can help.
We would like to invite FortuneJack Casino to join the conversation and participate in the resolution of this complaint.
Dear FortuneJack Casino,
The player has been accused of using multiple accounts and consequently had their account blocked. Could I ask you to please provide us with further information and supporting evidence of the use of multiple accounts?
Do sada nije bilo odgovora iz kazina. Pokušaću ponovo da ih kontaktiram.
U međuvremenu, javite mi ako dođe do pomaka.
Želeli bismo da zamolimo FortuneJack Casino da odgovori na ovu žalbu. Produžujemo tajmer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u zadatom roku, žalba će postati „nerešena" što može negativno uticati na njen rejting.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Adam
Dear hmarkoticc67,
There has been no response from the casino so far. I will attempt to contact them again.
In the meantime, please let me know if there are any developments.
We would like to ask FortuneJack Casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, the complaint will become ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Imajte na umu da je hrki99 zaista registrovan nalog na FortuneJack-u. Kako je Korisnik povukao svoj dobitak, povlačenje je prošlo pod standardnom sigurnosnom provjerom, pri čemu smo utvrdili da je račun pod imenom hrki99 povezan sa drugim nalogom – mbabic.
U skladu sa odredbama i uslovima (T&C) paragraf 2.5 „Dozvoljeno vam je da registrujete samo jedan nalog. Registrovanje i upravljanje više naloga (više od jednog) je strogo zabranjeno. Kompanija zadržava pravo da kvalifikuje nalog(e) registrovane na bilo koga iz Vaše porodice, domaćinstva, rođaka, prijatelja ili na drugi način povezanu osobu kao Vaš drugi nalog i na taj način odluči da imate više naloga. U slučaju višestrukog računovodstva, zadržavamo pravo da odmah blokiramo i ukinemo sve takve račune i konfiskujemo sva novčana sredstva dostupna na tim računima".
U ovom konkretnom slučaju oba korisnika - hrki99 i mbabic su registrovani pod istom IP adresom (molimo pronađite priloženi snimak ekrana). Štaviše, naš tim za prevare je takođe analizirao ponašanje korisnika i oni su bili veoma slični.
FortuneJack striktno primenjuje svoju politiku ne dozvoljavanja više naloga i povezivanje korisnika sa drugim nalogom smatra se nelegitimnom upotrebom naše veb stranice. Zbog nepoštovanja uslova i uslova oba naloga su blokirana. Uprkos tome što smo imali pravo da konfiskujemo sva sredstva, naš tim je odlučio da dozvoli hrki99 da povuče iznos depozita nazad u svoj novčanik, što je on uspešno i uradio. Odluka u vezi sa ovim slučajem je konačna i neće se ni na koji način menjati jer imamo sve dokaze i dokaze o kršenju.
Ako imate još pitanja u vezi sa žalbom, ne oklevajte da nas kontaktirate.
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Hello everyone,
Please, be informed that hrki99 was indeed a registered account on FortuneJack. As the User withdrew his/her winnings, the withdrawal went under standard security check, where we found that the account under the name hrki99 was associated with another account – mbabic.
In accordance with the Terms & Conditions (T&C) paragraph 2.5 "You are allowed to register only one Account. Registering and operating multiple Accounts (more than one) is strictly prohibited. The Company reserves the right to qualify the account(s) registered on anyone from Your family, household, relative, friend, or otherwise connected person to be Your other Account and, thus, decide that You have multiple Accounts. In case of multiple Accounting, We reserve the right to immediately block and terminate all such Accounts and confiscate all monetary funds available on such Accounts".
In this particular case both users - hrki99 and mbabic were registered under the same IP address (please, find the attached screenshot). Moreover, our fraud team also analyzed users’ behavior and they were very similar.
FortuneJack strictly enforces its policy of not allowing multiple accounts and the User’s association with another account is considered to be illegitimate use of our website. Due to non-compliance with T&C both accounts were blocked. Despite us having the right to confiscate all the funds, our team decided to let hrki99 withdraw the deposit amount back to his wallet, which he did successfully. The decision regarding this case is final and will not be altered in any way as we have all the proof and evidence of the violation.
If you have more questions regarding the complaint, don't hesitate to get in touch with us.
Pre svega, to nije dokaz da su 2 naloga povezana. I sami znate da možete koristiti vifi iz kafića ili restorana i da se svi povezuju na istu baznu stanicu i da vam se taj IP čita. Ne razumem kakvo bi trebalo da bude moje ponašanje nakon što mi uzmeš 2800 dolara, jer bi trebalo da se pomirim? Nisi mi dao ni verifikaciju, nemam veze sa tim nalogom. I sami znate da kada idete negde se povezujete na vifi. Da li to znači da ako putujem i povežem se na vifi na aerodromu, a neko iz druge zemlje putuje u isto vreme i poveže se da je to višestruki nalog?? Tvoje obrazloženje je stvarno loše, nisam ni prošao verifikaciju. I to ti nije dokaz jer je jednom bio povezan na taj IP i tebi je dokaz da su nalozi povezani??
First of all, it is not proof that the 2 accounts are connected. You yourself know that you can use wifi from a cafe or restaurant and that everyone connects to the same base station and that IP is read to you. I don't understand what my behavior is supposed to be after you take $2800 from me, because I'm supposed to take it easy? You didn't even let me pass the verification, I have nothing to do with that account. You yourself know that when you go somewhere you connect to wifi. Does that mean if I'm traveling and connect to wifi at the airport and someone from another country is traveling at the same time and connects that it's a multiple account?? Your reasoning is really bad, I didn't even pass the verification. And that's not proof to you because it was connected to that IP once and it's proof to you that the accounts are connected??
Navedite dodatne dokaze o tome kako su ovi nalozi povezani i kako su korišćeni. Postoji li još neki link pored IP adrese? Da li je bilo koji nalog prihvatio bonus? Da li su korišćeni za igranje kazino igara ili klađenje na sport? Takođe razjasnite šta je bilo slično u ponašanju korisnika.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Adame
Dear FortuneJack casino,
Please provide further proof of how these accounts are linked, and how they have been used. Is there any other link beside the IP address? Has either account accepted a bonus? Have they been used for playing casino games or betting on sports? Please also clarify what was similar about the users' behavior.
Nakon interne rasprave o ovoj žalbi, bojim se da moram da vas obavestim da više nećemo moći da vam pomažemo u ovom slučaju.
Kazino je pružio dokaze koji sugerišu da koristite više naloga.
Kada procenjujemo slučajeve više naloga, posmatramo kako su nalozi možda korišćeni da bi se stekla nepravedna prednost u odnosu na kazino. Potvrdili ste da ste akumulirali dotični dobitak klađenjem na sport. Trenutno nemamo dovoljno uvida u sportsko klađenje da bismo mogli da vas ispravno savetujemo ili donesemo dobro informisanu odluku o korišćenju vašeg naloga/sportske platforme.
Shodno tome, žalba će biti odbijena. Žao mi je što ovom prilikom ne možemo biti od veće pomoći, ali ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako u budućnosti naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa bilo kojim kazinom.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Adam
Dear hmarkoticc67,
After discussing this complaint internally, I am afraid I must inform you that we will no longer be able to assist you with this case.
The casino has provided evidence that suggests your use of multiple accounts.
When we assess multiple accounts cases, we look at how the accounts may have been used to gain an unfair advantage over the casino. You confirmed you have accumulated the winnings in question by placing bets on sports. We currently do not have enough insight into sports betting to be able to advise you correctly or make a well-informed decision about the usage of your account/sports platforms.
Consequently, the complaint will be rejected. I’m sorry we can't be of more help on this occasion, but please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with any casino in the future.
Kind regards,
Adam
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