pre 2 dana
da li ću čuti banku da li sam pobedio ili će samo uplatiti novac na moj račun.
will i hear off the bank if i have won or will they just deposit the money into my account.
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da li ću čuti banku da li sam pobedio ili će samo uplatiti novac na moj račun.
will i hear off the bank if i have won or will they just deposit the money into my account.
hvala ti Paul
Dogovorite se da prođete kroz bankovne izvode, pozovite trgovce i pošaljite im e-poštu, tako da banka bude poslednje sredstvo
thank you Paul
Making arrangments to go through the bank statements get the merchants and email them all first making the bank the last resort
Pozvaće vas da vam kažu da sam ih jurio jer sam čekao oko 7 nedelja, a onda su pozvali i plaćeno je za nekoliko dana. Ja sam jurio jer sam našao 50 ili tako nešto što su propustili u to vreme, ali nisu dobili odgovor, a zatim dobili izvinjenje i sve je obavljeno u isto vreme nakon otprilike 7 nedelja i trenutni povraćaj novca, tako da mora da je njihova greška, moraćete da date još nekoliko nedelja. trgovac je umešan, ali imao sam ih na tone mnogo, oni nikada nisu radili jer su plaćali mislim da su sve moje bile dobre osim jednog transfera novca
They will call you to tell you I chased them as had waited about 7 weeks then they called and it was paid in over a few days I had been chasing as I found 50 or so they missed at the time but got no reply then got an apology and all done the same time after about 7 weeks and instant refund so it must have been their fault you will need to give it another few weeks I did get one back £500 fast they must have just did a refund the merchant involved but I had tonnes of them a lot they never did as they were payop I think all mine were good apart from one was a money transfer
Ok Craig da, počni, probaj ih 1. napravi tabelu od svih njih
Ok Craig yes make a start try them 1st make a spreadsheet of them all
uradio to od obe banke koje se koriste Imam sve trgovce i poslaću im e-poštu pojedinačno
Takođe direktno šaljem e-poštu dotičnim kazinima
Ažuriraću ako uspem
done that from both banks used i have all the merchants and will email them individually
I am also emailing the casinos in question directly as well
Will update if i get success
Ok, vidi kako to ide, sumnjam da ćeš se na taj način obradovati, ali kada odeš u banku imaš sve dokaze za svoj slučaj, barem jednostavna činjenica je da ne bi trebalo da nam uzmu ni peni
Ok see how that goes I doubt you will get much joy that way but when you go to the bank you have all the evidence for your case at least the simple fact is they should not be taking one penny from us
Banka je podigla moje povraćaje sredstava pre 13 dana, nisam čuo ništa. Preostalo je 32 dana za odgovor za trgovce. Nijedna vest nije dobra vest po mom mišljenju!
Jedna stvar koju pitam je drugačija povraćaj sredstava kada ga banke podignu. Kroz šta to stavljaju?
My chargebacks were raised by the bank 13 days ago, heard nothing. 32 days left to respond for the merchants. No news is good news in my opinion!
One thing I'm wondering is the chargeback different when the banks raise it. What do they put it through as?
Ako ništa posle 14 dana, to je stvarno, nisam siguran da to nisu usluge koje nisu opisane, što je ono što sam podigao jer mi je rečeno da koriste tehniku zbog načina na koji je novac uzet, stvar je da moraju da oslobode Veliku Britaniju od ove gluposti sistem dizajniran da nas zaštiti kao otporan na metke dosta propada zbog ovih ološa pa moraju da ga blokiraju i okončaju jednom zauvek!
If nothing after 14 days that is it really bud im not sure its not services as not described which is what I raise as I got told they use a technicality because of the way the money has been taken the thing is they need to rid the Uk of this nonsense the system designed to protect us as being bullet proof is failing big time due to these scumbags so they need to block and end it once and for all !
Ako ništa posle 14 dana, to je stvarno, nisam siguran da to nisu usluge koje nisu opisane, što je ono što sam podigao jer mi je rečeno da koriste tehniku zbog načina na koji je novac uzet, stvar je da moraju da oslobode Veliku Britaniju od ove gluposti sistem dizajniran da nas zaštiti kao otporan na metke dosta propada zbog ovih ološa pa moraju da ga blokiraju i okončaju jednom zauvek!
If nothing after 14 days that is it really bud im not sure its not services as not described which is what I raise as I got told they use a technicality because of the way the money has been taken the thing is they need to rid the Uk of this nonsense the system designed to protect us as being bullet proof is failing big time due to these scumbags so they need to block and end it once and for all !
Nazvao sam banku radi ažuriranja. Dakle, Gorivire i Fomiline su osporili isplate, banka mi je u procesu slanja dokumenata.
Kuickbit mi je poslao moj GDPR i dokument sa svim transakcijama izvršenim preko njih, i očigledno je samo nekoliko njih poslato u EU, a ostalo su kompanije iznad. Ne znam kako da to koristim kao dokaz, jer mi kazino neće dati moju istoriju transakcija, a očigledno u tabeli pod uslovom da je moj brzi deo nema trgovaca kojima će 🤷♂
Jasno pokazuje pripadnost koju pretpostavljam. Tako teško!
Da li ste morali da se borite sa nekim trgovcima Paulom?
I have phoned the bank for an update. So Goriwire and Fomiline have both disputed the payments, the bank are in the process of sending me the documents.
Quickbit sent me over my GDPR and a document with all the transactions made thru them, and obviously only a handful are bitsent EU the rest are the companies above. I don't really know how to use it as evidence though because the casino won't give me my transactions history, and obviously on the spreadsheet provided my quickbit there is no merchants who it's going to 🤷♂️
Clearly shows the affiliation I'm guessing. So difficult!
Did you have to fight any merchants Paul?
Ok nema šanse! Nisam morao da se borim ni sa kim od njih nikada nisam dobio ni jedan zahtev za bilo šta što su rekli da oni gde su kupili bitkoine nisu mogli da se podignu ili prenesu novac, ali su svi urađeni kako sam mislio da hoće, mora zavisi od toga na kom sajtu ste koristili i kako su uzimali novac
Ok no way ! I did not have to fight any off them never got a single request about any they did say ones where they bought bitcoin were not possible though to raise or money transfer but they were all done as I thought they would it must depend on what site you used and how they took the money
Da, malo boli lopta. Očigledno imam dokaz da su svi povezani sa ovim veb lokacijama i da je novac otišao u kazino jer je u imejlu podrške pisalo „kontaktirajte kazino" 🤷♂ pa su svesni!
Ovo su očigledno njihovi sopstveni uslovi i odredbe na veb lokaciji. Takođe sam ih zamolio da mi blokiraju karticu mesec dana ranije pre nego što je izašao veliki iznos transakcija!
Što se tiče prve slike, nikada nisam napravio nalog, GDPR dokument ima moj nalog kao datum rođenja, drugo nije bilo KIC-a (ako sam ja bio kupac), treće, novac je korišćen za pranje novca za kazino po njihovom sopstveni uslovi.
Pobediću u ovoj borbi haha!!
Yeah bit of a ball ache. I have proof obviously, they are all linked these websites and that the money went to a casino because the support email said "contact the casino" 🤷♂️ so they are aware!
These are obviously their own t&Cs on the website. I also asked them to block my card a month earlier before the large amount of transactions came out!
In regards to the first picture I never made an account the GDPR document has my account as a Date of Birth, secondly there was no KYC (if I was a customer), thirdly the money was used to money launder for a casino as per their own t&cs.
I'm going to win this fight haha!!
Da, kontaktirao sam sumup kompaniju regulisanu britanskom FCA koja je obrađivala uplate i oni me prazne💁
Izgleda da ćete ih dobiti, a onda je samo dosadno da se morate više boriti protiv toga u ovoj fazi.
Yes I have contacted sumup a Uk FCA regulated company who processed payments and they are blanking me💁
It looks like you will get them then just annoying you need to fight it more at this stage.
Pozovite FCA. Uzmite svoju istoriju transakcija za kazina i dokažite to. Banka takođe treba da ih poštuje.
Da, pa problem je što je kazino kupio BTC sa transakcijama, očigledno u komunikaciji između mene i njih stoji drugačije. To će biti dug proces!
Svaki savet bi bio veoma cenjen
Id ring the FCA. Get your transactions history for the casinos and prove it. The bank should also honor them.
Yeah well problem is the casino purchased BTC with the transactions, obviously communications between me and them state otherwise. Going to be a long process!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
Ok, nisam dobio transakcije na sajtu kazina jer je nalog sada blokiran. Možda bih pokušao da pošaljem e-poštu FCA i kopiram u sumup da vidim kako to ide! odbijaju ih jedno od drugog.
Čekam ishod žalbe kod banke do 2. nedelje.
Što se tiče kriptovaluta, lično sam pokušao da povraćaj sredstava na Revolutu koji su odbijeni, ali sam sam kupio kriptovalute tako da nema šanse! ono što vam se dogodilo izgleda pogrešno jer nikada niste pristali da kupe kriptovalute za kazino kredite
Ok ive not got transactions on the Casino site as the account is blocked now I might try an email to the FCA and copy in sumup see how that goes ! bounce them off each other.
I am waiting on a complaint outcome with the bank into the 2nd week.
Regarding the crypto ones I have tried chargebacks myself on Revolut that got rejected but I bought the crypto myself so no chance ! what happened to you looks wrong though as you never consented to them buying crypto for casino credits
Upravo sam kontaktirao FCA i dobio sam referentni broj na koji nisam kopirao sumup za sada videćemo šta će reći o svemu tome.
I just contacted the FCA got a ref number I did not copy sumup in for now will see what they say about it all.
Ok, nisam dobio transakcije na sajtu kazina jer je nalog sada blokiran. Možda bih pokušao da pošaljem e-poštu FCA i kopiram u sumup da vidim kako to ide! odbijaju ih jedno od drugog.
Čekam ishod žalbe kod banke do 2. nedelje.
Što se tiče kriptovaluta, lično sam pokušao da povraćaj sredstava na Revolutu koji su odbijeni, ali sam sam kupio kriptovalute tako da nema šanse! ono što vam se dogodilo izgleda pogrešno jer nikada niste pristali da kupe kriptovalute za kazino kredite
Ok ive not got transactions on the Casino site as the account is blocked now I might try an email to the FCA and copy in sumup see how that goes ! bounce them off each other.
I am waiting on a complaint outcome with the bank into the 2nd week.
Regarding the crypto ones I have tried chargebacks myself on Revolut that got rejected but I bought the crypto myself so no chance ! what happened to you looks wrong though as you never consented to them buying crypto for casino credits
Možda će moći da vam pošalju transakcije, ali većina neće jer su prijatelji.
Da, to je moje razmišljanje, nemam ili nikada neću imati nalog, pa se moj DOB koristi kao korisničko ime, a drugo, tehnički su koristili moju karticu za kupovinu kriptovaluta! Veoma nevaljao
They might be able to send you the transactions, most won't tho cos they are cronies.
Yeah that's my thinking, I dont have or never will have an account hence my D.O.B being used as a username and secondly they technically used my card to purchase the crypto! Very naughty
Videćemo kako će biti prošli put kada sam pokušao sa FCA pre nekoliko godina, rekli su da ne mogu ništa da urade sa sajtom koji nije baziran u Velikoj Britaniji.
Imao sam nekoliko takvih da koriste vašu karticu za kupovinu kriptovalute, a sajt se zove immerion koji je sada preimenovan. Siguran sam da sam ih sve vratio preko banke, osim ako su upravo uzeli plaćanja debitnom karticom, ta lokacija je bila stvarno sumnjiva isplaćena na prvu karticu tada počeli da govore da to ne mogu da urade plus dugo odložene provere kod provajdera ako verujete u to! više od mesec dana na dobitku od 7000 funti tražeći od mene da ga konvertujem u bitkoin itd. na kraju ga nikada nisam dobio i upravo sam proverio da su preimenovani u ibets i da su zapravo uradili ono što bi ostali trebalo da rade i sajt je sada blokiran za korisnike iz Velike Britanije jer po slici!
Will see how it goes last time I tried FCA years ago they said they could not do anything about a non Uk based site though.
I had a few like that they use your card to buy crypto a site called immerion now renamed im sure I got them all back through the bank though unless they had just took debit card payments that site was really shady paid out at 1st to card then started saying they could not do it plus long delayed checks with provider if you believe that ! over a month on a win of £7000 asking me to convert it to bitcoin etc ended up never got it out and ive just checked they renamed as ybets and have actually done what the rest should do and the site is now blocked to Uk users as per picture !
Izvinite što sam otimao ovu temu, ali šta je sa offshore, regulisanim trgovcima klađenja bez kockanja koji ne kriju činjenicu da su sajtovi za kockanje. Plaihub kazino (od kojeg sam izgubio znatnu količinu novca) ima svoje VISA debitne uplate obrađene u okviru PID Processing koji ima šifru trgovca 7995. Dakle, ne kriju činjenicu da su trgovac kockanjem uprkos tome što ih ne reguliše UKGC i da su te transakcije nezakonite.
Da li mi to mnogo pomaže kod potencijalnog pokušaja povraćaja sredstava? I da li sam u pravu kada mislim da je VISA na kraju sama ta koja donosi odluku o tome da li mi treba bilo kakav povraćaj novca i da oni sami nisu trebali da dozvole Plaihub kazinu da prima uplate debitnom karticom UK na ovaj način?
Sorry to hijack this thread but what about offshore, non-gambling commissioned regulated betting merchants who don't hide the fact they are gambling sites. Playhub Casino (who I have lost a considerable amount of money to) have their VISA Debit payments processed under PYD Processing which has the merchant code 7995. So they aren't hiding the fact they are a gambling merchant despite not being regulated by UKGC and that those transactions are illegal.
Does that help me much with a potential chargeback attempt? And am I right in thinking it's ultimately VISA themselves who make this decision on whether I'm due any kind of refund and they themselves shouldn't have allowed Playhub Casino to take UK Debit card payments in this way?
Zdravo momci
da li neko zna da li se sećam neke kompanije koja se zove Spinsi - očigledno ih reguliše provajder PAGCOR na Filipinima - ali moj bankovni izvod pokazuje transakcije izvršene u Nikoziju? Hvala
Hi guys
does anyone know if I have any recall with a company called Spinsy - they are apparently regulated by a provider PAGCOR in the Philippines - but my bank statement shows transactions made to Nicosia ? Thanks
Upravo sam dobio poruku, sumup bezbednosna podrška istražuje da žele podatke o mojoj kartici i priznanice koje nisam dobio, sigurno je ovo sada određeni povraćaj novca
Just got a message sumup security support are investigating they want my card details and receipts which ive not got surely this is a certain refund now
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