email koji je poslat complaints@gaming-curacao.com , 24 sata kasnije su mi odgovorili želeći da saznaju više detalja, poslao sam šta sam mogao, videćemo šta će mi odgovoriti..
email sent to complaints@gaming-curacao.com , 24 hours later they replied wanting to know more details, I sent what I could, we will see what they will answer me..
Zdravo prijatelju, ima li novosti?
Hi friend, is there any news?
Ciao amico, ci sono novità?
Zdravo, upravo sam danas dobio ovu poštu od sbgok@protonmail.com
"Hvala na upit.
Zbog ograničenog kapaciteta u kombinaciji sa bolešću, nismo mogli da vam se javimo brže kao što smo navikli.
Iskreno se izvinjavamo zbog toga.
Da li je vaš slučaj rešen u međuvremenu?
Ako niste, u vezi sa informacijama koje ste dali, mi se bavimo mnogim sličnim slučajevima i Fondacija bi mogla da vam pomogne. Možda je najbolje da počnete sa razgovorom o vašem slučaju telefonom preko Vhatsapp-a.
Koji dan i vreme bi vam najviše odgovarali?
Moj broj sa kojeg ću zvati je +34 643 593 483
Očekujem vaš odgovor,"
Nadam se da govore francuski, prvo ću im poslati poruku putem VhatsApp-a..
Hello ,i've just received this mail today from sbgok@protonmail.com
"Thank you for your inquiry.
Due to limited capacity combined with illness, we could not get back to you more soon as we are used to.
We sincerely apologise for that.
Is your case solved in the meantime?
If not, regarding the information you provided, we handle many similar cases and the Foundation might be able to help you.Maybe it is best to start with discussing your case by phone via Whatsapp.
What day and time would suit you best?
My number from which I will call is +34 643 593 483
Awaiting your reply,"
I hope they speak french, i will send them a message by whatsapp first..
čak i meni nakon što sam dobio nekoliko opklada zaredom i dostigao €1000 (manje ili više od 300 € u depozitu od kada sam otvorio račun) i nakon što sam poslao sve čudne dokumente i selfije koje su tražili od mene da izvršim povlačenje , zatvorili su mi račun držeći sav novac, rekavši da sam prekršio uslove, što očigledno nije tačno. Ako imate ažuriranja ili ste pronašli način da se žalite ili uradite nešto, javite mi, hvala
even to me after winning a few bets in a row and reaching €1000 (I will have made €300 in deposits more or less since I opened the account) and after sending all the strange documents and selfies that they asked me to make a withdrawal, they closed my account keeping all the money, saying that I had broken the terms and conditions, which is obviously not true. If you have updates or have found a way to appeal or do something let me know thanks
anche a me dopo aver vinto qualche scommessa di fila ed essere arrivato a 1000€ (avrò fatto 300 euro di depositi piu o meno da quando avevo aperto il conto) e dopo aver inviato tutti i documenti e selfie strani che mi chiedevano per poter fare un prelievo,mi hanno chiuso il conto tenendosi tutti i soldi, dicendo che avevo infranto i termini e condizioni, cosa ovviamente non vera. Se avete aggiornamenti o avete trovato un modo per appellarvi o fare qualcosa fatemelo sapere grazie
Zdravo, tako mi je žao, zar vam nisu rekli koje ste Uslove prekršili? To bi svakako bilo dobro znati. Takođe, da li ste se kladili samo na sport ili ste igrali neke slotove?
Molim te javi mi.
Hello, I'm so sorry, did they not tell you what Terms you violated ? That would definitely be good to know. Also, did you bet only on sports or did you play some slots ?
Please let me know.
Samo sport, rekli su mi da su uslovi prekršeni, ali citirane tačke su sadržavale mnoge druge podtačke i stoga mi nisu rekli pravi razlog zašto je račun zatvoren. Pitao sam koji sam termin tačno prekršio, ali nisu hteli da mi kažu
Only sports, they told me the terms violated but the points cited contained in turn many other sub-points and therefore they did not tell me the real reason why the account was closed. I asked which term exactly I had violated but they did not want to tell me
Solo sport,mi hanno detto i termini violati ma i punti citati contenevano a loro volta moltissimi altri sotto punti e quindi non mi hanno detto il vero motivo per cui è stato chiuso il conto.Ho chiesto quale termine di preciso avevo violato ma non me lo hanno voluto dire
Samo sport, rekli su mi da su uslovi prekršeni, ali citirane tačke su sadržavale mnoge druge podtačke i stoga mi nisu rekli pravi razlog zašto je račun zatvoren. Pitao sam koji sam termin tačno prekršio, ali nisu hteli da mi kažu
Only sports, they told me the terms violated but the points cited contained in turn many other sub-points and therefore they did not tell me the real reason why the account was closed. I asked which term exactly I had violated but they did not want to tell me
Solo sport,mi hanno detto i termini violati ma i punti citati contenevano a loro volta moltissimi altri sotto punti e quindi non mi hanno detto il vero motivo per cui è stato chiuso il conto.Ho chiesto quale termine di preciso avevo violato ma non me lo hanno voluto dire
Zdravo, i mene je prevario betplais.com, obratio sam se advokatskoj kancelariji i nekoliko udruženja koja pružaju pomoć igračima koji su žrtve kazina Curacao. Nažalost, do danas nema nadoknade, ali nastavljam svoju bitku
Hi, I was also scammed by betplays.com, I turned to a law firm and several associations that provide help to players who are victims of Curacao casinos. Unfortunately, no compensation to date, but I continue my battle
Ciao, sono stato truffato anch'io da betplays.com, mi sono rivolto ad uno studio legale e a diverse associazioni che forniscono aiuto ai giocatori vittime dei casinò di Curacao. Fino ad oggi nessun risarcimento purtroppo, ma io continuo la mia battaglia
Rekli su mi isto, da su regulatori bili umešani u ovu prevaru. Štaviše, oni više nemaju licencu od strane gaming curacao, već su promenili svoju licencu za dodatno igranje, ova kompanija ostaje mutna kompanija koja može da radi i još uvek joj je dozvoljeno da uzima depozite, čim vide pobednika, zadržavaju vaša sredstva čak i novac koji ste uplatili i dobitak, naravno, i za njih nema nikakvih posledica. 0 Pravosuđe, nikada više se ne kladim sa ofšor kompanijama sa ovim licencama. Tražio sam da mi vrate depozit, pošto nisam izgubio, nisu mi ni vratili depozit, već godinu dana.
Uredi: i još uvek imaju ocenu bezbednosti 8,0/10, to je patetična šala
They told me the same thing, there regulators were in on this scam. Moreover, they are not licensed by gaming curacao anymore they changed their license to anjoun gaming, this company remains a shady company who gets to operate and is still allowed to take deposits, as soon as they see a winner, they keep your funds even the money you deposited and the winnings ofcourse, and there is no consequences for them. 0 Justice, never betting with offshore companies with these licenses ever again. I asked them to return my deposit , as I did not lose, they have not even given my deposit back it has been a year now.
Edit: and they still have 8.0/10 safety rating, it's a pathetic joke
Zdravo, kakvo razočarenje, zapravo sam primetio da su promenili dozvolu, prokleti su
Hi, what a disappointment, I actually noticed that they changed their license, they are damned
Ciao, che delusione, in effetti ho notato che hanno cambiato licenza, sono dei maledetti
Samo sport, rekli su mi da su uslovi prekršeni, ali citirane tačke su sadržavale mnoge druge podtačke i stoga mi nisu rekli pravi razlog zašto je račun zatvoren. Pitao sam koji sam termin tačno prekršio, ali nisu hteli da mi kažu
Only sports, they told me the terms violated but the points cited contained in turn many other sub-points and therefore they did not tell me the real reason why the account was closed. I asked which term exactly I had violated but they did not want to tell me
Solo sport,mi hanno detto i termini violati ma i punti citati contenevano a loro volta moltissimi altri sotto punti e quindi non mi hanno detto il vero motivo per cui è stato chiuso il conto.Ho chiesto quale termine di preciso avevo violato ma non me lo hanno voluto dire
Zdravo, to je sramota i žao mi je zbog čega ste morali da se suočite. Na snimku ekrana sam video da je kazino uložio žalbu na tačku 3 i 9. Ima li tu nešto konkretnije napisano ili ne?
Nažalost, mi u Casino.Guru se ne bavimo sportskim klađenjem jer nemamo stručnjake za to, tako da verovatno ne možemo da vam pomognemo u ovom slučaju. Ali ako ste zainteresovani, evo linkova na kojima možete pokušati da dobijete pomoć.
Linkovi se mogu naći ovde:
https://vvv.safebettingsites.com/complaints/
https://vvv.bookmakersreviev.com/sportsbook-complaint/
https://vvv.bookmakers.bet/submit-a-complaint/
https://vvv.top100bookmakers.com/contact-us/
https://vvv.sportsbookreviev.com/sportsbook-complaint/
Mislite li da ćete pregristi metak i tu se žaliti?
Hello, that's a shame and I'm sorry for what you had to face. I saw from the screenshot that the casino appealed some point 3 and 9. Is there something more specific written there or not ?
Unfortunately, we at Casino.Guru do not deal with sports betting because we do not have experts in it, so we probably cannot help you in this case. But if you are interested, here are the links where you can try to get help.
Links can be found here:
https://www.safebettingsites.com/complaints/
https://www.bookmakersreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
https://www.bookmakers.bet/submit-a-complaint/
https://www.top100bookmakers.com/contact-us/
https://www.sportsbookreview.com/sportsbook-complaint/
Do you think you'll bite the bullet and file a complaint there ?
Rekli su mi isto, da su regulatori bili umešani u ovu prevaru. Štaviše, oni više nemaju licencu od strane gaming curacao, već su promenili svoju licencu za dodatno igranje, ova kompanija ostaje mutna kompanija koja može da radi i još uvek joj je dozvoljeno da uzima depozite, čim vide pobednika, zadržavaju vaša sredstva čak i novac koji ste uplatili i dobitak, naravno, i za njih nema nikakvih posledica. 0 Pravosuđe, nikada više se ne kladim sa ofšor kompanijama sa ovim licencama. Tražio sam da mi vrate depozit, pošto nisam izgubio, nisu mi ni vratili depozit, već godinu dana.
Uredi: i još uvek imaju ocenu bezbednosti 8,0/10, to je patetična šala
They told me the same thing, there regulators were in on this scam. Moreover, they are not licensed by gaming curacao anymore they changed their license to anjoun gaming, this company remains a shady company who gets to operate and is still allowed to take deposits, as soon as they see a winner, they keep your funds even the money you deposited and the winnings ofcourse, and there is no consequences for them. 0 Justice, never betting with offshore companies with these licenses ever again. I asked them to return my deposit , as I did not lose, they have not even given my deposit back it has been a year now.
Edit: and they still have 8.0/10 safety rating, it's a pathetic joke
Da li ste i vi pokušali negde da podnesete žalbu? Pogledajte linkove koje sam poslao u svom prethodnom odgovoru.
Nažalost, Indeks bezbednosti ne odražava sportsko klađenje i njegove probleme. Pošto nemamo stručnjake niti filijalu, ne bavimo se ovakvim pritužbama jer nemamo dovoljno uvida, pa bi bilo nepravedno menjati indeks bezbednosti na osnovu takvih stvari.
Mislim da je to razumljivo. 🙁
Did you also try to file a complaint somewhere ? Look at the links I sent in my previous reply.
Unfortunately the Safety Index does not reflect sports betting and its problems. Since we don't have experts or a branch, we don't deal with such complaints because we don't have enough insight, so it would be unfair to change the safety index based on such things.
I think that's understandable. 🙁
Izgleda da sam ja najveći gubitnik ovde. Ukrali su mi 24k. Pogledajte pismo koje sam im upravo poslao.
Pravno odeljenje Betplaisa
3 griva Digeni Avenue, Patsalos House
6030, Larnaka, Kipar
Formalna žalba: nezakonita suspenzija računa i neplaćanje sredstava
Poštovani pravno odeljenje Betplaisa,
Pišem da zvanično zahtevam momentalno vraćanje mog naloga i oslobađanje mog punog bilansa od 24.115,03 USD, koje sam legalno zaradio prema odredbama i uslovima vaše platforme.
Prvo sam se prijavio za Betplais 24. maja 2024. i kladio sam se isključivo na sport preko vaše platforme. Nakon što sam podigao mali iznos 11. juna 2024. koji je prihvatilo vaše finansijsko odeljenje, ponovo sam deponovao 5.000 dolara 29. avgusta 2024. Posle toga još 3.000 dolara, što je potvrđeno u imejlovima koje sam sačuvao. Uspešno sam povećao stanje na svom računu na 24.115,03 dolara putem legitimnih aktivnosti klađenja. Nakon što sam to uradio, moj nalog je nepravedno ograničen na 1 dolar po opkladi, uprkos tome što sam igrao u potpunosti u skladu sa pravilima.
Zatim sam pokušao da povučem svoja sredstva i nakon što sam čekao nedelju dana, obavešten sam 16. septembra 2024. da je moj nalog suspendovan zbog navodnih kršenja Vaših Opštih uslova i odredbi, posebno prema Pravilima 3 (Više naloga) i 9. (Kriminalne aktivnosti, dosluh i varanje).
Imajte na umu sledeće:
Nema više naloga: Nikada nisam kreirao ili vodio više od jednog naloga na Betplais-u. Koristio sam samo jedan nalog, kome sam pristupio isključivo sa svog računara, laptopa i mobilnog telefona. Nikada nisam ni sa kim podelio ili otkrio detalje svog naloga.
Bez kriminalne aktivnosti ili dosluha: Nikada nisam učestvovao u bilo kakvoj kriminalnoj aktivnosti, dosluhu ili lažnom ponašanju kao što je navedeno u vašem Pravilu 9. Sve moje aktivnosti klađenja su sprovedene nezavisno i pošteno. Nisam umešan u dosluh ili deljenje informacija sa drugim igračima, niti sam pokušao da manipulišem platformom na bilo koji način.
Potpuna usklađenost: Poštovao sam sva primenljiva pravila, uključujući podnošenje dokumenata za verifikaciju identiteta, koje je vaš tim odobrio, i dokaze o svim transakcijama, imejlovima i komunikaciji između mene i Betplaisa. Moja istorija klađenja jasno pokazuje da se pridržavam vaših uslova, i imam dokaze o svakoj datoj opkladi i mojim bilansima.
Vaša odluka da suspendujete moj nalog i izgubite moje stanje bez dovoljnog razloga krši vaše ugovorne obaveze i principe fer pleja. Ovim zahtevam momentalno vraćanje mog računa i potpuno oslobađanje mog stanja u iznosu od 24.115,03 USD.
Neispunjavanje ovog zahteva u roku od 48 sati rezultiraće daljim pravnim merama, uključujući, ali ne ograničavajući se na prijavljivanje vaše platforme relevantnim regulatornim organima (Komorski organi za licenciranje, TrustPilot, Casino-Guru) , pokretanjem formalnog pravnog zahteva za oporavak mog novčanih sredstava, i traženje naknade štete zbog povrede ugovora i neosnovanog bogaćenja.
Nadam se da će ovo pitanje biti rešeno prijateljskim putem i brzo.
Looks like I'm the biggest loser here. They stole 24k from me . Check out the letter I just sent them.
Betplays Legal Department
3 griva Digeni Avenue, Patsalos House
6030, Larnaca, Cyprus
Formal Complaint : Unlawful Account Suspension and Non-Payment of Funds
Dear Betplays Legal Department,
I am writing to formally demand the immediate reinstatement of my account and the release of my full balance of $24,115.03, which I have legally earned under your platform's terms and conditions.
I initially signed up with Betplays on May 24, 2024, and have wagered exclusively on sports through your platform. After withdrawing a small amount on June 11, 2024 which was accepted by your financial department, I redeposited $5,000 on August 29 2024. Followed by another $3,000, as confirmed by emails I have saved. I successfully increased my account balance to $24,115.03 through legitimate betting activities. After doing so, my account was unfairly restricted to $1 per bet, despite playing fully within the rules.
I then attempted to withdraw my funds, and after waiting for one week, I was informed on September 16th 2024 that my account had been suspended due to alleged violations of your General Terms and Conditions, specifically under Rules 3 (Multi-Accounts) and 9 (Criminal Activity, Collusion & Cheating).
Please be advised of the following:
No Multi-Accounts: I have never created or operated more than one account with Betplays. I have used only one account, which I have accessed solely from my computer, laptop, and cell phone. I have never shared or disclosed my account details with anyone.
No Criminal Activity or Collusion: I have never engaged in any criminal activity, collusion, or fraudulent behavior as outlined in your Rule 9. All my wagering activity has been conducted independently and fairly. I have no involvement in collusion or sharing of information with other players, nor have I attempted to manipulate the platform in any way.
Full Compliance: I have complied with all the applicable rules, including submitting my identity verification documents, which your team has approved, and have proof of all transactions, emails, and communications between myself and Betplays. My wagering history clearly demonstrates my compliance with your terms, and I have evidence of every wager placed and my balances.
Your decision to suspend my account and forfeit my balance without sufficient cause violates your contractual obligations and the principles of fair play. I hereby demand the immediate reinstatement of my account and the full release of my balance in the amount of $24,115.03.
Failure to comply with this request within 48 hours will result in further legal action, including but not limited to reporting your platform to relevant regulatory authorities (Comoros Licensing Authorities, TrustPilot, Casino-Guru) , initiating a formal legal claim for the recovery of my funds, and seeking damages for breach of contract and unjust enrichment.
I hope this matter can be resolved amicably and promptly.
Nazovite me detaljnim, ali ne bih smatrao nas ili TrustPilot „relevantnim regulatornim organima".
U svakom slučaju, treba da budete svesni da se ne bavimo odmah sportskim klađenjem ili nečim sličnim. Kao rezultat toga, relevantne recenzije korisnika i žalbe će verovatno biti odbijene. Da li je tačno reći da ste se kladili samo na sport? Samo pokušavam da se klonim pogrešnih pretpostavki.
Call me a detailist, but I would not consider us or TrustPilot to be "relevant regulatory authorities".
In any event, you should be aware that we do not deal with sports betting or anything similar right away. As a result, relevant user reviews and complaints are likely to be rejected. Is it accurate to say that you have only bet on sports? Just trying to steer clear of erroneous assumptions.
Da, tačno je. Sajt sam koristio samo za sportsko klađenje. Takođe, koliko sam shvatio, niste regulatorni službenik. Jednostavno sam to stavio tamo da bih im rekao da ću obavestiti korisnike o njihovoj zloupotrebi. Osim toga, nakon što smo videli na Trust pilot-u da je gomila ljudi nedavno bila prevarena, moramo da se uverimo da ovaj sajt izgubi licencu.
24k nije šala...
Yes it is accurate. I only used the site for sportsbetting. Also, I understand you are not a regulatory official. I simply put that there to let them know that I will be informing users of their mal practice. Plus after seeing on Trust pilot that a bunch of people all got scammed recently, we need to make sure this site loses their license.
24k is no joke...
Da, vidim. Zaista je ozbiljno!
Cenim objašnjenje. Moj jedini cilj je da se klonim bilo kakvih potencijalnih nesporazuma.
Takođe treba da bude jasno da ne možemo ništa da uradimo da „kaznimo" onlajn kladionice. Mislim da "mi" možemo samo da se nadamo da ćete doći do pravednog rešenja, verovatno sa dobavljačem licence.
Yes, I see. It really is serious!
I appreciate the explanation. My only goal is to steer clear of any potential misunderstandings.
I should also make it clear that there is nothing we can do to "punish" online bookmakers. I think "we" can only hope that you come to a just resolution, probably with the license provider.
Dragi kazinoguru, molim vas pomozite. Napravio sam nalog na betplais-u pre otprilike mesec dana. Uplatio sam depozit i dobio neke kladionice. Prošao sam punu verifikaciju. Naredio sam povlačenje, ali je nakon nedelju dana odbijeno zbog kršenja propisa o klađenju, tačka broj 3. Ova tačka se odnosi na klađenje kada ste dobili bonus. Morao sam da uzmem bonus bez depozita. Imao sam 700 evra na kazino računu i oduzeli su mi ih bez razloga. Nisam uradio ništa loše. Optuživali su me za stvari koje nisam uradio, a novac koji sam pošteno osvojio uzeo je kazino.
Dear casinoguru please help I created an account on betplays about a month ago. I made a deposit and won some betting. I have passed full verification. I ordered a withdrawal, but after a week it was rejected due to violating the betting regulations, point number 3. This point concerns betting when you received a bonus. I had to take no deposit bonus. I had 700 euros in my casino account and they took them away for no reason. I didn't do anything wrong. I was accused of things I didn't do and the money I won honestly was taken by the casino.
Zaista mi je žao zbog vašeg iskustva iz ovog kazina.
Vidim da ste i ovde već podneli žalbu , ali nažalost, pošto vidim da se radi samo o sportskom klađenju, nisam siguran da bismo mogli da pomognemo.
Morate da sačekate da rešava žalbe u vašem slučaju da to istraži, a zatim će vas obavestiti kako dalje.
I am really sorry about your experience from this casino.
I can see that you have already submitted a complaint here as well, but unfortunately, as I can see that the issue is related to sports betting only, I am not sure that we could be able to help.
You need to wait for the complaint resolver of your case to investigate it and then will let you know how to proceed further.
Dragi kazinoguru, molim vas pomozite. Napravio sam nalog na betplais-u pre otprilike mesec dana. Uplatio sam depozit i dobio neke kladionice. Prošao sam punu verifikaciju. Naredio sam povlačenje, ali je nakon nedelju dana odbijeno zbog kršenja propisa o klađenju, tačka broj 3. Ova tačka se odnosi na klađenje kada ste dobili bonus. Morao sam da uzmem bonus bez depozita. Imao sam 700 evra na kazino računu i oduzeli su mi ih bez razloga. Nisam uradio ništa loše. Optuživali su me za stvari koje nisam uradio, a novac koji sam pošteno osvojio uzeo je kazino.
Dear casinoguru please help I created an account on betplays about a month ago. I made a deposit and won some betting. I have passed full verification. I ordered a withdrawal, but after a week it was rejected due to violating the betting regulations, point number 3. This point concerns betting when you received a bonus. I had to take no deposit bonus. I had 700 euros in my casino account and they took them away for no reason. I didn't do anything wrong. I was accused of things I didn't do and the money I won honestly was taken by the casino.
Zdravo, i mene je betplais.com prevario, žao mi je što vas obaveštavam da nažalost više nećete videti svoj novac. Uzalud sam podneo mnoge žalbe, ti lopovi su promenili dozvolu
Hi, I was scammed by betplays.com too, I'm sorry to inform you that unfortunately you will no longer see your money. I have filed many complaints in vain, those thieves have changed their license
Ciao, sono stato truffato anch'io da betplays.com mi dispiace informarti che purtroppo non vedrai più i tuoi soldi. Ho inoltrato tanti reclami inutilmente, quei ladri hanno cambiato licenza
Ja sam japanski igrač
Našao sam ovu temu i tu ću postaviti i svoju žalbu i upozorenje.
Kao što je već napisano, pioniri možda već razumeju, ali ovaj kazino sajt vrši prevaru.
I nažalost, kada pogledate broj uzastopnih odbijanja na forumu za potraživanja u perspektivi, ne izgleda da se CasinoGuru ponaša kao arbitražna stranica kada je u pitanju ovaj kazino sajt.
Ne želim da pišem takvu žalbu jer mi je pomogao drugi sajt, ali dostavljeno: 5. decembra 2023.
Od 31 tužbe od tada, 28 je rešeno protiv igrača uzastopno.
Predmeti su upravo zaplenjeni, a ja sam još uvek u procesu komunikacije sa drugom stranom i objavljivanja svoje žalbe, ali bih voleo da svi pogledate seriju interakcija koje sam imao do sada.
Ovaj sajt me optužuje za varanje.
Međutim, nisam se bavio takvim ponašanjem i nema šanse da sam napravio više naloga ili u dosluhu sa drugima.
Verovatno je da će nakon nekog vremena BetPlais obezbediti neke izmišljene dokaze i CasinoGuru će presuditi kao žrtva.
Međutim, kao što je već pomenuto, 28 uzastopnih otkaza od 31 slučaja je neobičan broj za ovu arbitražu. (3 od tih predmeta još nisu rešena.)
CasinoGuru treba da preuzme odgovornost i interno preispita ovih 28 uzastopnih odluka.
Siguran sam da pored mene ima mnogo drugih igrača kojima je konfiskovan dobitak iz neosnovanih razloga.
Odlučio sam da se registrujem nakon što sam video ovu ocenu.
Nisam siguran da li su se registrovali preko ove veze, ali sam se registrovao preko ove kazino grupe mnogo puta.
Zato što sam verovao ovom sajtu za pregled svaki put.
Ovaj incident me tera da verujem da je nastavljanje da ih tako visoko poštujete greška u vašoj filozofiji.
I želeo bih da pitam sve vas arbitre Casino Gurua.
Ljudi koji se žale u diskusijama su pioniri kazina, a mnogi veterani su takođe postali žrtve ovog problema.
Zašto mu dajete indeks bezbednosti 8,0 kada ima toliko problema?
U slučaju početnika kao što sam ja, odgovor možda nije sam po sebi pouzdan faktor, ali u vašem sistemu postoji mnogo tvrdnji i Junior Adepts i Junior Apprentices.
Uprkos tome što su mnogi ugledni pioniri postali žrtve i upozorenja u diskusijama, čini se da sajt dobija besplatan pristup za zaradu.
Objasnite zašto ignorišete žalbe pouzdanih članova na vašoj platformi i dajete slobodu lažnim kockarnicama.
I'm a Japanese player
I found this thread and will post my complaint and warning there as well.
As already written here, pioneers may already understand, but this casino site is committing fraud.
And unfortunately, when you look at the number of consecutive denials on the claims forum in perspective, it does not seem like CasinoGuru is acting as an arbitration site when it comes to this casino site.
I don't want to write such a complaint because I have been helped by another site, but Submitted on: December 5, 2023
Of the 31 claims since then, 28 have been ruled against the player in succession.
The items have just been confiscated, and I am still in the process of communicating with the other party and posting my complaint, but I would like you all to take a look at the series of interactions I have had so far.
This site is accusing me of cheating.
However, I have not engaged in such behavior, and there is no way I created multiple accounts or colluded with others.
It is likely that after some back and forth, BetPlays will provide some fabricated evidence and CasinoGuru will rule as the victim.
However, as mentioned above, 28 consecutive dismissals out of 31 cases is an unusual number for this arbitration site. (3 of those cases have not yet been decided.)
CasinoGuru should take responsibility and internally re-examine these 28 consecutive rulings.
I'm sure there are many other players besides me who have had their winnings confiscated for unfounded reasons.
I decided to register after seeing this rating.
I'm not sure if they registered via this link, but I have registered through this casino group many times.
Because I trusted this review site each time.
This incident makes me believe that continuing to hold them in such high regard is a mistake in your philosophy.
And I would like to ask all of you Casino Guru arbitrators.
The people making complaints in the discussions are casino pioneers, and many veterans have also fallen victim to the problem.
Why are you giving it a safety index of 8.0 when there are so many issues?
In the case of a newbie like me, the answer may not be a reliable factor in itself, but there are many claims and Junior Adepts and Junior Apprentices in your system.
Despite many reputable pioneers falling victim and warnings in the discussions, it appears the site is being given a free pass to make money.
Please explain why you are ignoring the complaints of trustworthy members on your platform and giving leeway to fraudulent casinos.
私は日本のプレイヤーです
こちらのスレッドを発見してこちらにも苦情、警告を記載します。
既にこちらに書かれている、先駆者の皆さんは理解されているかもしれないが、こちらのカジノサイトは詐欺行為を働いております。
そして、残念ながらクレームフォーラムの連続的な却下された数を俯瞰的に見た場合、このカジノサイトに関しては、カジノグルは仲裁サイトとして活動されてないように思えます。
私自身、別サイトで助けていただいたこともあり、このようなクレームを書きたくはありませんが、提出日: 2023年12月5日
これ以降のクレームで31件中28件が、連続してプレイヤーに不利な裁定を下されています。
没収されたばかりで、まだ相手方とやり取りをし、クレームも投稿したばかりですが、皆さんにはこの後の私の一連のやり取りを確認していただきたい。
こちらのサイトは私が不正行為を働いたと難癖をつけてきています。
しかし、私はそのような行為をした事実はなく、複数アカウントの作成や共謀などはあり得ません。
恐らくBetPlaysはある程度のやり取りののち、適当に捏造した証拠を提供し、カジノグルは被害者の立ち位置として裁定を下すことでしょう。
しかし、上記でも書きましたように、31件中28件の連続却下は、こちらの仲裁サイトとして異常な個数です。(うち3件は、まだ裁定が下ってない)
カジノグルは責任をもってこの28件の連続した裁定にたいして、社内で再度検討してください。
私以外にも根拠のない理由で賞金を没収されたプレイヤーが多数いるはずです。
私はこちらの評価値を見たうえで、登録を決定しています。
こちらのリンク経由で登録をしたかは定かではないですが、何件もこちらのカジノグルを経緯して登録もしています。
その都度この評価サイトを信頼していたからです。
今回の1件で彼らに高評価を維持し続けるのはあなた方の理念にとって誤りであると確信をします。
そしてカジノグルの裁定者の皆さんに聞きたいです。
ディスカッションでクレームを入れてる方々はカジノの先駆者であり、多くのベテランたちも被害に会われています。
何故、これだけの件数の問題があるにも関わらず、8.0の安全指標を与えているのですか?
私のような新参者の回答などの場合は、それ自体が信頼係数として頼りないかもしれませんが、多くのクレームと、あなた方のシステムで、ジュニアアデプト、ジュニアアプレンティ
多くの信頼性のある先駆者が被害にあい、ディスカッションでも警告をしているにも関わらず、このサイトに稼がせる猶予を与えているように見えます。
自社のプラットフォームで信頼のおける会員のクレームを無視され、詐欺カジノに猶予を与える理由を回答していただきたい。
Postoje i neke sumnjive tačke u ovom KIC sistemu.
Dao sam svoju vozačku dozvolu kao KIC.
Iako postoji obrazac za ručni unos, oni koriste softver za prepoznavanje slika da bi pročitali „prednji deo" slike licence koju ste dali i prepisali je bez vaše dozvole.
Sa japanskom vozačkom dozvolom, ako se preselite, vlasti će ažurirati poleđinu vaše vozačke dozvole sa tačnom adresom.
Ažurirao sam i dokumentaciju na poleđini.
Uprkos tome, pogrešno su pročitali moju staru adresu i datum rođenja na prednjoj strani i prepisali lične podatke koje sam uneo.
Nije li ovo samo po sebi nezakonit čin sa njihove strane?
Zar ne bi bio problem da su informacije koje sam uneo izmenjene bez moje dozvole?
There are some suspicious points in this KYC system too.
I provided my driver's license as KYC.
Even though there is a manual input form, they use image recognition software to read the "front" of the license image you provide and overwrite it without your permission.
With a Japanese driver's license, if you move, the authorities will update the back of your driver's license with the correct address.
I also updated the documentation on the back.
Despite this, they misread my old address and date of birth on the front and overwrote the personal information I had entered.
Isn't this in itself an illegal act on their part?
Wouldn't it be a problem if the information I entered was modified without my permission?
こちらのKYCシステムにも不審点があります
私は運転免許証をKYCとして提供しました。
手動の入力フォームが存在したにもかかわらず、彼らは提供した免許証画像の"表面"を画像認識ソフトで読み込み、勝手に上書きをしています。
日本の免許証では、住居を転居した場合には裏面に正しい住所が当局より更新されます。
私は裏面の書類もアップデートしました。
それにも関わらず、表面の旧住所と、生年月日を誤った読み取りをして、私自身が打ち込んだ個人情報を上書きをしています。
これ自体が彼らの違法行為ではありませんか?
私自身が入力した情報を勝手に修正されるというのは問題にはなりえないのでしょうか?
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