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Ako želite da diskutujete bilo šta vezano za PalmSlots Casino, kao što su igre, bonusi, metode plaćanja, problemi sa nalogom, odgovorno kockanje ili bilo šta drugo, možete to učiniti ovde.
Upravo sam se registrovao u ovom kazinu i ispostavilo se da da biste povukli morate se kladiti x 10, ovo nije da je nepravedno, to je više od toga... to je prevara.
Igram samo rulet i napravim depozit od 1000 evra i ispostavilo se da moram da se kladim na 10.000 evra da bih mogao da podignem.
Ne znam kako neko igra u ovim kasinima, na primjer Silver Play je x 5......Nevjerovatno
I just registered in this casino and it turns out that in order to withdraw you have to bet x 10, This is not that it is unfair, it is more than that... it is a scam.
I only play roulette and I make a deposit of 1000 euros and it turns out that I have to bet 10,000 euros to be able to withdraw.
I don't know how anyone plays in these casinos, for example the Silver Play is x 5......Incredible
Me acabo de registrar en este casino y resulta que para poder retirar hay que apostar x 10, Esto no es qu sea injusto, s mas que eso....es una estafa.
Yo juego a la ruleta solamente y hago un deposito de 1000 euros y resulta que tengo que apostar 10.000 euros para poder retirar.
No se como juega nadie en estos casinos , por ejemplo el Silver Play es x 5......Increible
Gospodo kazino Guru: Trebalo bi to reći kada vidimo recenziju kazina jer postoje korisnici koji se registruju i počnu igrati, ali kada odu da se povuku ako su pobijedili, ispada da moraju kladiti depozit x 10, kao što se moj m dogodio juče u Silver Playu.
Mislim da je to prevara korisnika
Gentlemen of the casino Guru: You should say it when we are seeing a review of a casino because there are users who register and start playing, but when they go to withdraw if they have won, it turns out that they have to bet the deposit x 10, like my m happened yesterday in Silver Play.
I think that is scamming the user
Sres. del casino Guru : Deberian ustedes decirlo cuando estamos viendo una reseña de un casino porque hay usuarios que se registran y empiezan a jugar, pero cuando van a retirar caso de haber ganado, resulta que tienen que apostar el deposito x 10, como a mi m paso ayer en Silver Play.
Creo que eso es estafar al usuario
Uvek pročitajte odredbe i uslove pre nego što se pridružite bilo kom kazinu, tako da nećete biti uhvaćeni
Always read the terms and conditions before you join any casino that way you won’t get caught out
Gospodo kazino Guru: Trebalo bi to reći kada vidimo recenziju kazina jer postoje korisnici koji se registruju i počnu igrati, ali kada odu da se povuku ako su pobijedili, ispada da moraju kladiti depozit x 10, kao što se moj m dogodio juče u Silver Playu.
Mislim da je to prevara korisnika
Gentlemen of the casino Guru: You should say it when we are seeing a review of a casino because there are users who register and start playing, but when they go to withdraw if they have won, it turns out that they have to bet the deposit x 10, like my m happened yesterday in Silver Play.
I think that is scamming the user
Sres. del casino Guru : Deberian ustedes decirlo cuando estamos viendo una reseña de un casino porque hay usuarios que se registran y empiezan a jugar, pero cuando van a retirar caso de haber ganado, resulta que tienen que apostar el deposito x 10, como a mi m paso ayer en Silver Play.
Creo que eso es estafar al usuario
zdravo canaberto,
Prevara znači da kazino ne plaća igrače i prihvata samo depozite. Ovo što ste opisali nije prevara. To je pravilo protiv pranja novca. Moram reći, s druge strane, taj depozit od 10x ipak zvuči previše. Rekao bih da je 5x vrhunski, ali moramo uzeti u obzir da ste uplatili priličan iznos.
Recimo da ako kazino primjenjuje klađenje 10x depozita kao AML pravilo na niže sume - nekoliko stotina dolara, ovo pravilo ne treba primijeniti, ali nije prevara i kazino to može učiniti ako je navedeno u uvjetima .
Uvek pročitajte odredbe i uslove pre nego što izvršite depozit. Nadalje, prilikom registracije od vas je najvjerovatnije zatraženo da pročitate te uslove i da se složite s njima. Da li sam u pravu?
Hello canaberto,
scam means that the casino does not pay players and only accepts deposits. What you described is not a scam. It's an anti-money-laundering rule. I must say, on the other hand, that 10x deposit sounds far too much though. I'd say that 5x is a top but we must consider that you deposited quite a sum.
Let's say that if the casino applies 10x deposit wagering as the AML rule to lower sums - a few hundred bucks, it's not how this rule should be applied but it's not a scam and the casino can do that if it is stated in terms and conditions.
Always read the terms and conditions before making a deposit. Furthermore, during the registration, you were most probably asked to read those terms and agree with them. Am I right?
Čak i ako se pridržavate pravila, ni oni ne plaćaju, ja sam povukla prije više od 10 dana i nije stigla. Kažu da će biti problem sa mojim računom, ali ništa drugo ne rade, čak sam im poslao i izvod računa da vide da novac nije stigao, ali insistiraju da su podigli bez dokaza. Oni su državnici
Even if you comply with the rule, they don't pay either, I made a withdrawal more than 10 days ago and it hasn't arrived. They say that it will be a problem with my account but they do nothing else, I have even sent them the statement of the account so that they can see that the money has not arrived but they insist that they made the withdrawal without proving anything. They are staters
Aunque cumplas con la regla tampoco pagan, yo hice una retirada hace mas de 10 dias y no me llega. Ellos dicen que será problema de mi cuenta pero no hacen nada mas, les he mandado hasta el extracto de la cuenta para que vean que no me ha llegado el dinero pero insisten que por su parte lo hicieron el retiro sin demostrar nada. Son unos estadadores
Osim što ne možete unijeti Iban, samo 20 cifara računa.
Iban je nemoguć i tu sam počeo shvaćati da postoji nešto čudno.
Učinite nešto protiv ovih prevaranta.
Ne možemo dozvoliti više korisnika da to učine
Apart from the fact that you cannot enter the Iban, only the 20 digits of the account.
The Iban is impossible and there I began to realize that there was something strange.
Do something against these scammers please.
We cannot allow more users to do so
Aparte que no se puede meter el Iban,solo los 20 dígitos dela cuenta.
El Iban es imposible y ahí empecé a darme cuenta que había algo raro.
Hagan algo contra estos estafadores por favor.
No podemos permitir que lo hagan a más usuarios
Ono što sam prije napisao mislim na kazino Eagles.
U Palm Slots nisam došao da igram po tako zahtjevnim pravilima
Orlovi ako će biti sigurni
What I wrote before I am referring to the Eagles casino.
In Palm Slots I have not come to play by such demanding rules
The Eagles if they will be sure
Lo escrito antes Me refiero al casino Eagles.
En Palm Slots no he llegado a jugar por las reglas tan exigentes
El Eagles si que te estarán seguro
Čak i ako se pridržavate pravila, ni oni ne plaćaju, ja sam povukla prije više od 10 dana i nije stigla. Kažu da će biti problem sa mojim računom, ali ništa drugo ne rade, čak sam im poslao i izvod računa da vide da novac nije stigao, ali insistiraju da su podigli bez dokaza. Oni su državnici
Even if you comply with the rule, they don't pay either, I made a withdrawal more than 10 days ago and it hasn't arrived. They say that it will be a problem with my account but they do nothing else, I have even sent them the statement of the account so that they can see that the money has not arrived but they insist that they made the withdrawal without proving anything. They are staters
Aunque cumplas con la regla tampoco pagan, yo hice una retirada hace mas de 10 dias y no me llega. Ellos dicen que será problema de mi cuenta pero no hacen nada mas, les he mandado hasta el extracto de la cuenta para que vean que no me ha llegado el dinero pero insisten que por su parte lo hicieron el retiro sin demostrar nada. Son unos estadadores
Ako kasino ne plaća, to je sasvim druga priča.
Vidim vašu žalbu na Casino Eagles koji se trenutno otvara. Videćemo da li možemo da stupimo u kontakt sa njima.
If the casino does not pay it's a completely different story.
I can see your complaint about Casino Eagles being opened at the moment. We shall see if can get in touch with them.
Ono što sam prije napisao mislim na kazino Eagles.
U Palm Slots nisam došao da igram po tako zahtjevnim pravilima
Orlovi ako će biti sigurni
What I wrote before I am referring to the Eagles casino.
In Palm Slots I have not come to play by such demanding rules
The Eagles if they will be sure
Lo escrito antes Me refiero al casino Eagles.
En Palm Slots no he llegado a jugar por las reglas tan exigentes
El Eagles si que te estarán seguro
U svakom slučaju, prilično sam izgubljen u svim onim kockarnicama koje ste komentarisali u ovoj temi koji su povezani samo sa PalmSlots.
Ljubazno vas molim da komentirate svaki kazino u njegovoj općoj niti ili kreirate drugu nit koja se može ručno vezati za odgovarajući kazino.
Ovo je pravi haos, moram reći 😀.
Čini se da su čak i prva dva posta trebala biti negdje drugdje - u općoj temi Silver Playa:
Onda ste napisali da se radi o Orlovima:
Pitam se da li ima neki od vaših postova o PalmSlots-u?
Zato vas molimo da postavite svoje postove u skladu sa tim - bilo bi veoma zahvalno. 👍
Anyway, I'm quite lost in all those casinos you commented on in this thread only associated with the PalmSlots.
I ask you kindly to comment on each casino in its general thread or create another thread that can be bound to the proper casino manually.
This is quite a mess I must say 😀.
It seems that even the first two posts were supposed to be elsewhere - in Silver Play's general thread:
Then, you wrote it's about Eagles:
Is any of your posts about PalmSlots, I wonder?
So please place your posts accordingly - it would be much appreciated. 👍
Sigurno sam u krivu. objašnjavam:
U Silver play više ne igram i račun je zatvoren.
Nikada nisam igrao na Palm Slotu jer su uslovi uvredljivi.
Eagles je mjesto gdje sam ja prijavljen i oni ne plaćaju. Jučer sam, slijedeći vaše upute, podnio ŽALBU.
Sve najbolje
Surely I'm wrong. I explain :
In Silver play I no longer play and the account is closed.
I have never played at Palm Slot because the conditions are abusive.
Eagles is where I'm registered and they don't pay. Yesterday and following your instructions, I filed the COMPLAINT.
All the best
Seguramente me equivoque. Le explico :
En Silver play ya no juego y la cuenta esta cerrada.
En Palm Slot no he jugado nunca porque las condiciones son abusivas.
En Eagles es donde estoy registrado y no pagan. Ayer y siguiendo vuestras instrucciones, puse la QUEJA.
Un saludo
Klonite se ovog kazina.
1 prisiljavaju vas (kladite se) čak i ako niste igrali sa bonusom, morate konvertirati svoj depozit ×10 to samo govori sve.
2 kada sam drugi put pomislio da podignem malo profita, pojavio se ovaj email.
Stay away from this casino.
1 they force you (wager) even if you didn't play with bonus, you must convert your deposit ×10 that alone says it all.
2 when I thought of withdrawing a little profit the second time, this email appeared.
Håll er borta från detta casino.
1 de tvingar på dig (wager) fast du inte spelat med bonus, du ska omsätta din insättning ×10 bara det säger allt.
2 när jag tänkte ta ut en lite vinst andra gången då dök detta emajl upp .
Zdravo,
Rekao bih da je klađenje koje se primjenjuje na svaki depozit prilično uobičajeno pravilo, međutim, nije baš popularno.
Maksimalno 3 puta klađenje bi bilo bolje.
Kada su naknade u pitanju, jeste li to mogli unaprijed provjeriti u uvjetima? Nadam se.
Kazino mora platiti naknade za svaku nastavljenu isplatu tako da mogu zamisliti da je ovo alat koji bi trebao motivirati igrače da se povlače rjeđe i efikasnije.
Mogu razumjeti da ni to nije popularno pravilo.
Hello,
I'd say that wagering applied to every deposit is a pretty common rule, however, it's not a very popular one.
Max 3 times wagering would be better.
When it comes to the fees, were you able to check this in the terms and conditions beforehand? I hope so.
The casino must pay fees for every proceeded payout so I can imagine that this is a tool that should motivate players to withdraw less often and more efficiently.
Can understand that it's not a popular rule either.
Isto se desilo i sa mnom dok sam koristio i nakon nekog vremena se pojavi.
The same happened with me as I used and after some time it appears.
izvini, ali uopšte ne razumem šta se dešava u Casino Guruu u poslednje vreme. za mene je ovo uvek bila prva adresa kada je trebalo da se informišem o kazinu i vašoj recenziji se zapravo moglo slepo verovati.
izgleda da su vremena prošla. kazina dobijaju lošu reputaciju ako imaju ograničenje dobitka po okretu od 100.000 evra, ali kazina poput Palmslota, koji zahtevaju 10k (!)ulaganje depozita čak i bez bonusa - neverovatno. nema čak ni beleške u recenziji kazina Guru o tome. (Pogledao sam uslove i uslove zahvaljujući recenzijama igrača ovde i nisam položio depozit.)
bonus uslovi su takođe za kosu. maksimalni iznos gotovine od 10k bonus iznosa zaista nije fer ako postoji potreban promet od 40k depozita I bonusa. plus naknada od 8%(!) ako se isplata ponovo zahteva u roku od mesec dana (!).
pa ako sve ovo uzmete zajedno, kako je moguće da ovaj kazino dobije "veoma dobru" reputaciju? i na vrhu, igračima je rečeno da to ne bi bilo nepravedno i ok, jer je to u Uputstvima i uslovima? i 10k puta promet je zbog pravila protiv pranja? šališ se? ovo očigledno nema nikakve veze sa razlozima protiv pranja veša, već sa nepravednim uslovima sa pravilima protiv pranja kao izgovorom.
s obzirom na to, moglo bi biti da je vinspin-limit od 100.000 (highroller) problem, ali ovo je ovde o malim ljudima i o lomljenju njihovih vrata.
sve u svemu, cela priča je više nego razočaravajuća i tako polako ali sigurno "veoma dobra" reputacija Casino Gurua odlazi u vodu, jer ovo nije prva apsolutno neshvatljiva recenzija i nije prvi put da se opravdavaju apsolutno nepravedni uslovi.
sorry, but I don't understand at all what's been going on at Casino Guru lately. for me this was always the first address when it came to informing myself about a casino and your review could actually be trusted blindly.
the times seem to be over. casinos get a bad reputation if they have a win limit per spin of 100,000 euros, but casinos like Palmslot, which require a 10x (!)wagering of the deposit even without a bonus - unbelievable. there is not even a note in the casino Guru review about it. (i had a look at the T&Cs thanks to the player reviews here and didn`t deposit.)
the bonus conditions are also hair-raising. a max cash-out of 10x bonus amount is really not fair if there is a required turnover of 40x deposit AND bonus. plus a fee of 8%(!) if a payout is requested again within a month (!).
so if you take all these together, how can it be that this casino gets a "very good" reputation? and on top the players are told that this would not be unfair and ok, because it is in the T&Cs? and 10x times turnover is because of anti-laundring-rules? are you kidding? this has clearly nothing to do with anti-laundring reasons but with unfair conditions with anti-laundring-rules as a pretext.
that being said, could be that a winspin-limit of 100,000 is a (highroller)problem, but this here is about the small people and about breaking their necks.
all in all, the whole story is more than disappointing and so slowly but surely the "very good" reputation of Casino Guru goes down the drain, because this is not the first absolutely incomprehensible review and not the first time absolute unfair conditions are excused.
Pozdrav,
hvala vam na mišljenju. Uvek možete obavestiti naš tim za podatke/reviziju o tim nedoumicama putem e-pošte data@casino.guru . Trudimo se da redovno pregledamo bolja kazina, ali uvek nam može pomoći.
U slučaju PalmSlots kazina , rekao bih da smo smatrali da su njegovi uslovi i odredbe uglavnom fer, pa smo dodali upozorenje: „Ovaj kazino zabranjuje određene obrasce klađenja ili strategije kada se igra sa bonus sredstvima, ali nismo bili svedoci da se ovo pravilo koristi protiv igrača još."
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„Upozorenje: PalmSlots Casino ima određene odeljke uslova i odredbi bonusa za koje smatramo da nisu fer prema igračima kazina. Ovo bi vam moglo izazvati probleme ako odlučite da iskoristite bonuse ili promocije kazina. Zbog toga vam savetujemo da potražite kazino sa poštenim pravilima ili barem obratite posebnu pažnju na Uslove i odredbe ovog kazina ako odlučite da igrate u njemu."
Ako proverite žalbe, videćete da su do sada podnete samo 4 žalbe i to je takođe prilično dobro.
Čak i sa tim upozorenjima kazino je stekao veoma lošu reputaciju, može se promeniti, naravno, zato tražimo od igrača da podnesu žalbe svaki put kada se osete zlostavljanim.
Hello there,
thank you for your opinion. You can always inform our data/review team about those doubts using email data@casino.guru. We try to review the better casinos regularly, but we can always use some help.
In the case of PalmSlots Casino, I would say that we found its terms and conditions mostly fair, so we added a warning: "This casino forbids certain betting patterns or strategies when playing with bonus funds, but we have not witnessed this rule being used against players yet."
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"Warning: PalmSlots Casino has certain sections of Bonus Terms and Conditions that we consider to be unfair to the casino's players. These might cause you issues if you decide to take advantage of the casino's bonuses or promotions. Because of this, we advise you to look for a casino with fair rules or at least pay special attention to this casino's Terms and Conditions if you decide to play at it."
If you check complaints, you will see that there have been only 4 complaints submitted so far and this is also quite good.
Even with those warnings the casino earned a very bad reputation, it may change, of course, that is why we ask players to submit complaints every time they feel abused.
Hvala za odgovor. moj komentar o nedostatku informacija odnosio se na 10k obrt sirovog depozita. sa zahtevima za klađenje od 10k, šansa da ponovo izgubite pobedu je veoma velika. to je samo matematika.
s obzirom na to, razumem da recenzije oduzimaju mnogo vremena i osoblja, ali mnogi igrači se oslanjaju na recenziju kazino gurua i možda neće sve pročitati sto posto. često čujem: „Vrlo dobro je ocenjeno kod Casino Gurua, tako da je sigurno." „Vrlo dobro" sa 8,3 od 10 poena od vas je kao pečat kvaliteta. i skoro me je doveo u iskušenje da položim depozit u Palmslots. (ono što u ovom slučaju nije bitno, samo primer). zato je, po mom mišljenju, toliko neverovatno važno da sam rejting odražava stvarne uslove, a oni su apsolutno neprijateljski raspoloženi prema igraču u slučaju Palmslota (takođe je i naknada od 8% deo toga). imate izuzetno smanjene šanse i veliku verovatnoću gubitka. pa bih očekivao da ocena ne bude "veoma dobra" čak i bez pritužbi. Nadam se da ovo objašnjava moju zabrinutost bolje od prethodnog posta.
thanks for your reply. my comment about missing info referred to the 10x turnover of the raw deposit. with 10x wagering requirements, the chance of losing a win again is very high. that's just math.
that being said, I understand that the reviews take a lot of time & staff, but a lot of players rely on the casino guru review and may not read everything one hundred percent. i often hear: "its rated very good at Casino Guru, so its safe."a "very good" with 8.3 out of 10 points from you is like a seal of quality. and almost tempted me to deposit at Palmslots. (what is not important in this case, just an example). that's why, in my opinion, it is so incredibly important that the rating itself reflects the real conditions and these are absolutely unfriendly to the player in the case of the Palmslot (also the 8% fee is part of it). you have extremely reduced chances and a high probability of loss. so i would expect the rating not to be "very good" even without complaints.hope this explains my concern better than the post before.
Zdravo još jednom i hvala vam na ovom ažuriranju, sada zaista mnogo bolje razumem vašu zabrinutost.
I dalje smatram da svaki igrač treba u potpunosti da proveri uslove i odredbe na veb stranici kazina. Mogu da zamislim da zahtev za klađenje treba uzeti u obzir prema početnom iznosu depozita.
Mogu samo da predložim pronalaženje prikladnijeg kazina.
Hello again and thank you for this update, I truly understand your concern much better now.
I still feel that every player should check the terms and conditions in full on the casino's website. I can imagine that the wagering requirement should be considered by the initial deposit amount.
I can only suggest finding a more suitable casino.
Zdravo svima, pridružio sam se ovom kazinu i uneo svoje povlačenje pre par dana (tako da još ništa nisam dobio), ali ja sam u Australiji??? a sad čitam ne primaju australijske igrače??? Moja verifikacija je prošla dobro. Ažuriraću ovu nit za ćaskanje ako/kada novac stigne. Ima li još Australaca koji igraju ovde? Hvala za čitanje....
Hi All, I joined this casino, and entered my withdrawal a couple of days ago (so not received anything yet) but i am in Australia??? and now I am reading they do not accept Australian Players??? My verification went through fine. I will update this chat thread if/when money arrives. Any other Aussies playing here? Thanks for reading....
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