Zaista, ovo je zaista imati problema sa depozitima u kazinu, zadržati novac sa vašeg računa i imati problema sa isplatama, otvoriti račune znajući da imate problema sa kockanjem, bez problema sa slučajevima samoubistva, čak i ako ste mogli da igrate maloletnici, oni zaista nisu predstavnici kazina? 
A šteta je veoma ozbiljna, nema veze, mislim da treba imati neku etiku?
Dear vicente2013,
I told you that the casino would improve its system, and they already did. Your deposit from the 3rd account was refunded to the same wallet as before. If you try to create an account now, the casino will block you.
I više puta nanošena šteta?
A štete nastale do sada nepažnjom sa tragičnim rezultatom?
I believe I get what you are trying to say. Yet still, I believe it would make little sense to punish casinos for something that is no longer possible. In order to keep others informed, the Safety Index should be lowered or a warning added to reflect the current circumstances.
Additionally, thanks to your active approach, many players have a fair chance to get familiar with your experiences, and assess potential risks.
Za tebe će Radka imati malo značaja, uz svo poštovanje, za mene mnogo znači da u društvu ko je počinio zločin plaća nanetu štetu, posebno sa tragičnim završetkom, čak i ako se preduzmu mere.
A istina je da je drugim igračima teško da saznaju kada ovde nije jasno navedena prava situacija koja je doživljena, kada indeks bezbednosti nije modifikovan i, pre svega, ne objavljuju se recenzije koje objašnjavaju istinu.
Prema tome, za mene predmet nije zatvoren niti se slažem s tim kako je zatvoren. Zanimljivo, u rezoluciji se o tome ne komentariše, jer je glavna žrtva potpuno protiv rezolucije.
Actually, I have little to add.
In my opinion, we have explained all we could. We've been very open to you. The casino has changed the system, probably thanks to your persistence. You got the refunds even from the 3rd account.
Thus, from our perspective, the complaint is closed. I'm sorry you disagree; there is no reason to keep the complaint open - its process has reached the final stage.
Moral principles, or other truths, as you prefer to say, are available here on the forum, since this is the place for debates. Anyone is welcome to read your complaint, or your perfectly visible forum posts. Nothing has been hidden.
End from my side, I guess.
U potpunosti se slažem sa vašom perspektivom, ali uz svo dužno poštovanje od ovog trenutka ću krenuti drugim putevima kada sve bude u potpunosti zacrtano od početka do kraja.
Samo želim da vam se zahvalim što su zahvaljujući vama nezakonitosti ovog kazina izašle na videlo, jedina mrlja koju mi nikada niste dozvolili da objasnim je sva nezakonitost koju je ovaj kazino do sada počinio sa svojim klijentima odbijajući moje recenzije i ne menjajući indeks bezbednosti. to niti razumem niti ću ikada razumeti, ne razumeju ni stručnjaci i stručnjaci iz ove oblasti koji mi pomažu.
Od sada??????
misterija kazina
Što se mene tiče, ni ja pretpostavljam ništa više.
There is actually something worth mentioning, and it could also have been a part of your dissatisfaction.
Allow me to mention just one thing: posting comments on the forum about anything you believe any casino has done wrong is preferable to doing so specifically for a user review. The "crime" or unfair behavior must be proven in order for the user review to be made public, particularly if there is a complaint attached.
In spite of this, the review needs to include a sufficient quantity of information; otherwise, the community will not really benefit from it.
I checked your reviews, would you say this text is informative?
"I have only had problems with this casino and it ruined my life."
"This casino was about to end my life and almost drove me to suicide, with that, it is all said above, recognizing its mistake and its guilt, refusing to pay for its true consequences safety index 0 casino guru knows perfectly well my experience with velobet.com and It has all the evidence that is why I hope my review is published because it is my real experience, thank you."
Through the explanation provided, we attempted to advise you on how to proceed with the review.
"Hello, thank you for your review. I can see you rated the casino pretty low. Could you please share more details about the issue at the casino so it will be helpful for other players as well?"
I truly don't want to oppose you - if only you tried to submit a decent user review with a true value, preferably from a single account - not more than one. It has a fair chance of being approved then.
Thank you for your time and dedication. You have done a great deal of good through the complaint, and I wish you only the best.
Izvinite, ali da budem iskren, objavite sve one koje sam slao koje ste odbili i u recenzijama jer ste očajni jer nijednu niste prihvatili a znao sam da nećete prihvatiti i mnoge sa informacijama o mojim problemima u povlačenju. depozite i pre svega odgovorno igranje, mislim da ima dovoljno dokaza, kao što ste i sami pokazali, da to odlično znate i da ste savršeno informisani, inače nema interesa da ih objavljujete tamo gde bi igrači trebalo da budu obavešteni u komentara.
Znate da su oni kršili zakon i iskorišćavali ranjive igrače, a isti indeks bezbednosti se nastavlja i vi ste bili savršeno svesni svega.
Saying anything more would only serve to continue this circle. Everything has been explained to you very openly.
I regret to see that you are unable to move past your own viewpoint.
Thank you for your contribution.
To ne prašta, ne mogu da pređem preko toga NE, nisi me naterao da pređem preko svoje tačke gledišta i onaj koji je pretrpeo situaciju sam bio ja i to je bilo tragično.
ali dobro, moje mišljenje je da ste više na strani kazina nego na strani ranjivih igrača. Moj slučaj, moje iskustvo i moje potpuno lično mišljenje doveli su me do moje tačke gledišta, inače ovo ne bi ovako zatvoreno, UOPŠTE nije otvoreno objašnjeno. a za vas je to krug, za mene je to zatvaranje moje žalbe bez odgovora i bez plaćanja učinjenih nezakonitosti, jer iza ovoga stoji mnogo iznenađujućih stvari.
Ali ponavljam, sve je moje lično i respektabilno mišljenje, i moje i tuđe je podjednako respektabilno, iako se moje ne poštuje mnogo.
Samo želim da vam se zahvalim na svemu što ste istražili i na rezultatima koje ste dobili čak i uz vrlo malo mera.
Sada ću nastaviti drugim putem kojem se nadam i verujem da ako budem imao više podrške da nastavim da se borim za zakonitost čak i ako ništa ne dođe, ko zna, potrudiću se da se sve sazna, sve.
Hvala vam.
I'll try to mention aspects the whole team was considering when we were discussing your case, they might be of interest, and I'll leave that to you.
Mainly, we are not lawyers here, we do not represent or substitute laws. I understand you aim for compensation, as you said "the illegalities committed" - this is something we have no authority to get involved in. Yet I understand that, from your perspective, it's something you've attached to achieving. One way or another, I hope you will be satisfied in the end.
The next part is quite complex, but still, understanding the background is important:
Currently, almost all operators operate under a license that defines the rules and scope of self-exclusion. Moreover, virtually all operators offer some sort of self-exclusion to their players, whose scope is highly dependent on regulatory requirements and decisions of individual operators.
There are currently two basic levels of self-exclusion:
Single-operator level: Typically, when self-excluding in an online casino, the self-exclusion does not extend to other operators. This creates a problem: self-excluded players can freely access and play at other casino websites, bringing the overall effectiveness of such self-exclusion schemes into question.
Nationwide/license-wide level: Some countries and online gambling regulators, such as the UK, Sweden, or the Netherlands, operate wider self-exclusion schemes, which require their licensees (operators) to be part of nationwide (license-wide) self-exclusion schemes. These allow players to self-exclude from all casinos licensed in a specific country or by a specific regulator at once, creating a better level of protection.
As of this moment, a player struggling with problem gambling symptoms cannot self-exclude on a global scale. This means that although the player self-excludes on one of the above-mentioned levels, there are still many ways in which players can bypass these self-imposed measures.
It should be noted, in a more thorough version of the previous overview, that every platform, casino operator, and brand has a unique approach to the self exclusion tools. There is not a definitive guide or rule outlining how everyone should go about doing that. As a result, we are unable to establish a baseline by which we could assess the caliber of the options that are provided. While some casinos only keep track of emails as personal information, others offer a "short registration form."
If we had punished this casino for what has been done but is no longer possible, we would also have to start punishing many others, even though we would not have a decent methodology for doing so. I can promise you that you have reopened this conversation, but this is not the direction we are ready to take today.
Now, in order to fill this void, we offer the forum in addition to user reviews or complaints.
I appreciate your well-meaning intentions.
Vidi Radka, prvo samoisključenje zbog zavisnosti od kockanja bilo je kod istog operatera velobet.com koji je to ignorisao i dozvolio ISTOM OPERATORU da nastavi da igra sa katastrofalnim posledicama koje će sudija morati da izmeri
a univerzalna pravila kazina su zaštita ranjivih igrača, maloletnika i pranja novca, svaki kazino može imati svoja pravila, ali iznad je zakon
niste ga kaznili jer niste hteli svoje razloge vi ste ponovo otvorili slučaj sa dokazima o njegovoj nezakonitosti zato ste ga ponovo otvorili i istražili i došli do zaključka da su krivi
Činite lošu uslugu igračima generalno jer osim niske stope sigurnosti, moje iskustvo je pokazalo da je bilo problema sa depozitima i isplatama.
Samo želim da plate za svoje dokazane nezakonite radnje i pomognu igračima koji ne prolaze kroz istu stvar.
Ja sam se otvoreno objasnio
I ponavljam svoju zahvalnost kazinoguruu što je pokazao nezakonitosti koje je počinio velobet.com, sada niti znam niti me zanima više, ako nastave isto učinio sam sve što je moguće da se ova nezakonitost zaustavi i da svi igrači budu obavešteni o svim smetnje koje sam pronašao uglavnom su pregledne publikacije jer je mnogo štete već učinjeno i to je učinjeno.
Hvala Vam mnogo.
Thank you as well; take care, and best wishes on your honorable campaign!
You are welcome to start your own thread here in the forum to keep others updated on your progress. I wanted to let you know in case you were interested in doing so.
Hvala, ali mislim da to neće biti potrebno. Siguran sam da ćete saznati za razvoj slučaja u isto vreme kada i ja.
A na vama će biti da jasno pružite informacije zajednici igrača ?????.
Well, the "case" has been closed. I can hardly inform others on your behalf. I do not even know what you plan to do next.
Očekivao sam ništa manje nego da ćete mi uskratiti ponovno otvaranje, već sam to asimilirao.
Hallo
Velobet is one the best bookie able in many countries. Fast deposits and whidrawals, very professional support able 24h and answering very fast. Many sports able to play, even table tennis. I hardly recommend this bookie and casino. I dont see how can I give my Mark but its max so 10/10 or 5/5 stars
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Inicijativu koju smo pokrenuli s ciljem stvaranja globalnog sistema samoisključenja, koji će omogućiti ranjivim igračima da blokiraju pristup svim mogućnostima online kockanja.
