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Anonymized669
pre 1 meseca

Actually, I have little to add.

In my opinion, we have explained all we could. We've been very open to you. The casino has changed the system, probably thanks to your persistence. You got the refunds even from the 3rd account.

Thus, from our perspective, the complaint is closed. I'm sorry you disagree; there is no reason to keep the complaint open - its process has reached the final stage.

Moral principles, or other truths, as you prefer to say, are available here on the forum, since this is the place for debates. Anyone is welcome to read your complaint, or your perfectly visible forum posts. Nothing has been hidden.

End from my side, I guess.




pre 1 meseca

U potpunosti se slažem sa vašom perspektivom, ali uz svo dužno poštovanje od ovog trenutka ću krenuti drugim putevima kada sve bude u potpunosti zacrtano od početka do kraja.

Samo želim da vam se zahvalim što su zahvaljujući vama nezakonitosti ovog kazina izašle na videlo, jedina mrlja koju mi nikada niste dozvolili da objasnim je sva nezakonitost koju je ovaj kazino do sada počinio sa svojim klijentima odbijajući moje recenzije i ne menjajući indeks bezbednosti. to niti razumem niti ću ikada razumeti, ne razumeju ni stručnjaci i stručnjaci iz ove oblasti koji mi pomažu.

Od sada??????

misterija kazina

Što se mene tiče, ni ja pretpostavljam ništa više.

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Anonymized669
pre 1 meseca

There is actually something worth mentioning, and it could also have been a part of your dissatisfaction.

Allow me to mention just one thing: posting comments on the forum about anything you believe any casino has done wrong is preferable to doing so specifically for a user review. The "crime" or unfair behavior must be proven in order for the user review to be made public, particularly if there is a complaint attached.

In spite of this, the review needs to include a sufficient quantity of information; otherwise, the community will not really benefit from it.

I checked your reviews, would you say this text is informative?

"I have only had problems with this casino and it ruined my life."


"This casino was about to end my life and almost drove me to suicide, with that, it is all said above, recognizing its mistake and its guilt, refusing to pay for its true consequences safety index 0 casino guru knows perfectly well my experience with velobet.com and It has all the evidence that is why I hope my review is published because it is my real experience, thank you."


Through the explanation provided, we attempted to advise you on how to proceed with the review.

"Hello, thank you for your review. I can see you rated the casino pretty low. Could you please share more details about the issue at the casino so it will be helpful for other players as well?"

I truly don't want to oppose you - if only you tried to submit a decent user review with a true value, preferably from a single account - not more than one. It has a fair chance of being approved then.

Thank you for your time and dedication. You have done a great deal of good through the complaint, and I wish you only the best.

pre 1 meseca

Izvinite, ali da budem iskren, objavite sve one koje sam slao koje ste odbili i u recenzijama jer ste očajni jer nijednu niste prihvatili a znao sam da nećete prihvatiti i mnoge sa informacijama o mojim problemima u povlačenju. depozite i pre svega odgovorno igranje, mislim da ima dovoljno dokaza, kao što ste i sami pokazali, da to odlično znate i da ste savršeno informisani, inače nema interesa da ih objavljujete tamo gde bi igrači trebalo da budu obavešteni u komentara.

Znate da su oni kršili zakon i iskorišćavali ranjive igrače, a isti indeks bezbednosti se nastavlja i vi ste bili savršeno svesni svega.

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Anonymized669
pre 1 meseca

Saying anything more would only serve to continue this circle. Everything has been explained to you very openly.

I regret to see that you are unable to move past your own viewpoint.

Thank you for your contribution.



pre 1 meseca

To ne prašta, ne mogu da pređem preko toga NE, nisi me naterao da pređem preko svoje tačke gledišta i onaj koji je pretrpeo situaciju sam bio ja i to je bilo tragično.

ali dobro, moje mišljenje je da ste više na strani kazina nego na strani ranjivih igrača. Moj slučaj, moje iskustvo i moje potpuno lično mišljenje doveli su me do moje tačke gledišta, inače ovo ne bi ovako zatvoreno, UOPŠTE nije otvoreno objašnjeno. a za vas je to krug, za mene je to zatvaranje moje žalbe bez odgovora i bez plaćanja učinjenih nezakonitosti, jer iza ovoga stoji mnogo iznenađujućih stvari.

Ali ponavljam, sve je moje lično i respektabilno mišljenje, i moje i tuđe je podjednako respektabilno, iako se moje ne poštuje mnogo.

Samo želim da vam se zahvalim na svemu što ste istražili i na rezultatima koje ste dobili čak i uz vrlo malo mera.

Sada ću nastaviti drugim putem kojem se nadam i verujem da ako budem imao više podrške da nastavim da se borim za zakonitost čak i ako ništa ne dođe, ko zna, potrudiću se da se sve sazna, sve.

Hvala vam.


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Anonymized669
pre 1 meseca

I'll try to mention aspects the whole team was considering when we were discussing your case, they might be of interest, and I'll leave that to you.

Mainly, we are not lawyers here, we do not represent or substitute laws. I understand you aim for compensation, as you said "the illegalities committed" - this is something we have no authority to get involved in. Yet I understand that, from your perspective, it's something you've attached to achieving. One way or another, I hope you will be satisfied in the end.

The next part is quite complex, but still, understanding the background is important:

Currently, almost all operators operate under a license that defines the rules and scope of self-exclusion. Moreover, virtually all operators offer some sort of self-exclusion to their players, whose scope is highly dependent on regulatory requirements and decisions of individual operators.

There are currently two basic levels of self-exclusion:

Single-operator level: Typically, when self-excluding in an online casino, the self-exclusion does not extend to other operators. This creates a problem: self-excluded players can freely access and play at other casino websites, bringing the overall effectiveness of such self-exclusion schemes into question.

Nationwide/license-wide level: Some countries and online gambling regulators, such as the UK, Sweden, or the Netherlands, operate wider self-exclusion schemes, which require their licensees (operators) to be part of nationwide (license-wide) self-exclusion schemes. These allow players to self-exclude from all casinos licensed in a specific country or by a specific regulator at once, creating a better level of protection.

As of this moment, a player struggling with problem gambling symptoms cannot self-exclude on a global scale. This means that although the player self-excludes on one of the above-mentioned levels, there are still many ways in which players can bypass these self-imposed measures.

It should be noted, in a more thorough version of the previous overview, that every platform, casino operator, and brand has a unique approach to the self exclusion tools. There is not a definitive guide or rule outlining how everyone should go about doing that. As a result, we are unable to establish a baseline by which we could assess the caliber of the options that are provided. While some casinos only keep track of emails as personal information, others offer a "short registration form."

If we had punished this casino for what has been done but is no longer possible, we would also have to start punishing many others, even though we would not have a decent methodology for doing so. I can promise you that you have reopened this conversation, but this is not the direction we are ready to take today.

Now, in order to fill this void, we offer the forum in addition to user reviews or complaints.

I appreciate your well-meaning intentions.

pre 1 meseca

Vidi Radka, prvo samoisključenje zbog zavisnosti od kockanja bilo je kod istog operatera velobet.com koji je to ignorisao i dozvolio ISTOM OPERATORU da nastavi da igra sa katastrofalnim posledicama koje će sudija morati da izmeri

a univerzalna pravila kazina su zaštita ranjivih igrača, maloletnika i pranja novca, svaki kazino može imati svoja pravila, ali iznad je zakon

niste ga kaznili jer niste hteli svoje razloge vi ste ponovo otvorili slučaj sa dokazima o njegovoj nezakonitosti zato ste ga ponovo otvorili i istražili i došli do zaključka da su krivi

Činite lošu uslugu igračima generalno jer osim niske stope sigurnosti, moje iskustvo je pokazalo da je bilo problema sa depozitima i isplatama.

Samo želim da plate za svoje dokazane nezakonite radnje i pomognu igračima koji ne prolaze kroz istu stvar.

Ja sam se otvoreno objasnio

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pre 1 meseca

I ponavljam svoju zahvalnost kazinoguruu što je pokazao nezakonitosti koje je počinio velobet.com, sada niti znam niti me zanima više, ako nastave isto učinio sam sve što je moguće da se ova nezakonitost zaustavi i da svi igrači budu obavešteni o svim smetnje koje sam pronašao uglavnom su pregledne publikacije jer je mnogo štete već učinjeno i to je učinjeno.

Hvala Vam mnogo.

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Anonymized669
pre 1 meseca

Thank you as well; take care, and best wishes on your honorable campaign!

You are welcome to start your own thread here in the forum to keep others updated on your progress. I wanted to let you know in case you were interested in doing so.

pre 1 meseca

Hvala, ali mislim da to neće biti potrebno. Siguran sam da ćete saznati za razvoj slučaja u isto vreme kada i ja.

A na vama će biti da jasno pružite informacije zajednici igrača ?????.

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Anonymized669
pre 1 meseca

Well, the "case" has been closed. I can hardly inform others on your behalf. I do not even know what you plan to do next.

pre 1 meseca

Očekivao sam ništa manje nego da ćete mi uskratiti ponovno otvaranje, već sam to asimilirao.

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pre 1 meseca

Hallo

Velobet is one the best bookie able in many countries. Fast deposits and whidrawals, very professional support able 24h and answering very fast. Many sports able to play, even table tennis. I hardly recommend this bookie and casino. I dont see how can I give my Mark but its max so 10/10 or 5/5 stars

pre 1 meseca

Da, haha, kako smešno. Malo je potrebno biti tako bestidan. Nema potrebe za komentarima, oni se plaćaju.

Poznato je da je bilo velikih problema sa isplatama, depozitima i, pre svega, odgovornim igranjem. Sve ostalo su laži i velike laži u prilog ovom kazinu.

Bolje da igrač zna istinu, čak i ako je kasnije pokušao da izvrši samoubistvo, taj problem je njegov.

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pre 1 meseca

Hallo

Velobet is one the best bookie able in many countries. Fast deposits and whidrawals, very professional support able 24h and answering very fast. Many sports able to play, even table tennis. I hardly recommend this bookie and casino. I dont see how can I give my Mark but its max so 10/10 or 5/5 stars

pre 1 meseca

Thank you for your post. It sounds like an advertisement to me, to tell you the truth, though.🤷‍♀️

Have you some experience you can write about, perhaps? How long did it take to withdraw your winnings? Did you play some casino games as well? Try to describe it so everyone can read about it.

Here's also the link where you can submit your user review if you wish.

pre 1 meseca

Da, haha, kako smešno. Malo je potrebno biti tako bestidan. Nema potrebe za komentarima, oni se plaćaju.

Poznato je da je bilo velikih problema sa isplatama, depozitima i, pre svega, odgovornim igranjem. Sve ostalo su laži i velike laži u prilog ovom kazinu.

Bolje da igrač zna istinu, čak i ako je kasnije pokušao da izvrši samoubistvo, taj problem je njegov.

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pre 1 meseca

Every player has the right to express his or her opinion and write about his or her experience at the casino. We always try to keep the reviews unbiased and always try to find out if the player is not writing truthful experiences.

pre 1 meseca

Tldr; Velobet and all their sub brands are a scam, pay small balances, don't pay big.


Bit of an update. After Velobet (and other casinos owned by same brand paid me out at first) they have locked two accounts with around 500 and around 1k in each. This was September 2023, a year ago. They claimed it was due to an "investigation" but in reality after I asked them what I done wrong they said that the traders didn't like me "betting on obscure games". So effectively even though they have a large offering, they will not pay if you bet on majority of it.


After I contacted them 6 months on, then a year on I get the same reply from Goldenbet and Freshbet. After just going on chat they said investigation is going on, no time frame, np update.


To anyone reading this, most crypto casinos are scams. They don't pay on big wins, will be happy to take 1k and pay 1k but if you suddenly get lucky you will get a "bet review" and your money will either disappear from balance or just not get paid and the review will be indefinite.


Anyone here welcome to contact me if you want to know more. My email is my username on here, followed by gmail and com.

pre 1 meseca

Ovo ovde nije interesantno, indeks bezbednosti će sigurno rasti.

I da, svaki igrač ima pravo da izrazi svoje mišljenje i odobri kritike.

Ali dozvolite objavljivanje plaćenih i neplaćenih jer kao što ste dobro rekli svako ima pravo i dobro i loše treba da se objavi.

Hvala jvillov84

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Čini mi se najsramotnijim u svetu igara što velobet.com i dalje ima visok indeks bezbednosti u Casino Guruu, znajući savršeno dobro sve šta je pogrešio, čak i činjenicama i rečima prepoznajući šta su uradili, posebno na ivica tužbe koja nije ravnomerna

Razmišljaju dokle ide

Dosta je bilo izgovora, najveći gubitnici će biti igrači koji traže savet o pristojnom i legalnom kazinu, od kojeg ovaj nema ništa i znaju kolika je šteta.

Ja sam more nedoumica i malo-pomalo idu na mene

spajanje delova zajedno

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