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Hi I believe these new non gamestop companies should be banned. They offer no protection for problem players and I believe some of them to be a scam. They have found a way to let people gamble who shouldn't be gambling. They abide by no laws and you are not protected. If they don't want to pay winnings they simply don't.

I feel gambling is a serious problem and these sites shouldn't be available.

Jonnywhizzle
pre 3 meseci

Hi. Unfortunately, right now, there is no such thing asn Gamstop where you can put restrictions on playing for problematic players all over the world. These casinos do not have a UK license and should be avoided by players from your country. I know that it is not easy to not play at these casinos if there is no protection for you to not enter them, but on the other hand, I don't want to believe that they are targeting players with addiction.

Our goal, though, is to inform all our users about every online casino and let you know whether the casino is safe or not. We, of course, need help from our users as well to inform everyone about their experience.

Did you know that we have a list of the help centres you can search for if you wish to? Here it is, in case you decide to use some of them. I hope it'll help you stay well.


Romi
pre 3 meseci

Hi Romi,

I completely agree that not all of them are out to target problem players I just feel that some advertise responsible gaming but without having to enforce it which I completely disagree with.

I believe if a player reaches out stating a problem and you advertise responsible gaming the account should be excluded. Unfortunately this isn't always the case they seem to ignore your requests. Why ? Can only be financial gain Unfortunately.


But again agreed not all are in this category but I've seen it with a few of these now.

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pre 3 meseci

I also can't help but feel the advertising of "non gamestop" is reaching out to players who may have a problem, players who have made that big step to realise their problem and contact gamestop.

But now there is a new door open ....

Just a thought

Jonnywhizzle
pre 3 meseci

Zdravo Džoni, odgovoriću ti, upravo sam juče otvorio žalbu jer sam od novembra 2023. na lečenju kod psihologa od zavisnosti od kockanja, ozbiljno sam rizikovao da izgubim kuću, završio sam na sudu, pomogli su mi roditelji koji je plaćanjem poništio kaznu inače bih se našao sa svojom devojkom i svoje 3 mačke ispred kuće bez smeštaja, aktivirao sam samoisključivanje iz kazina zauvek, ali od 10. jula do 18. jula 2024. godine sam se vratio u njega preko kazina koji mi je i dalje dozvoljavao da igram, nakon meseci kada to nisam radio, ponovo sam izgubio sve, prijavio sam se u kazino 2022. godine sa istom e-poštom i verifikovao sa istim telefonskim brojem koji se koristi za nacionalno samoisključenje (kazino ima mogućnost rada u mojoj zemlji pa mi se čini nevjerovatnim da ni on tamo nije isključen s obzirom da su imali podatke o mejlu i broju telefona, nažalost ne sećam se da li sam te godine uradio kompletan KIC ), zatražio sam privatnom porukom i samoisključivanje putem ćaskanja uživo ubrzo nakon primljenog prvog izbacivanja, pošto kazino nema svoju funkciju samoisključivanja, nažalost nisam bio saslušan, našao sam vrata otvorena nekoliko dana pre i opet sam pao na to, sada ne mogu da platim kiriju i kasnim već 10 dana, povećao sam termine kod psihologa ali se osećam sterano u ćošak, pun stida, nastavljam da živim sa anksioznošću u stomaku i strah od toga da sve ponovo proživljavam. Više ne živim dobro, zavisnost od kockanja se ne shvata ozbiljno, a sada (kao i mnogi ljudi koji se verovatno plaše pomoći) rizikujem da ponovo izgubim sve i ne znam kako da se izvučem iz toga.

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imnotd4ny
pre 3 meseci

This is exactly the point I am making and unfortunately more and more of these companies are opening up and under the advertisement "non gamestop"

It's easy to say just avoid them but it's not that easy for a problem gambler.

When you check reviews on other platforms they mostly give them a thumbs up but will not mention the dark side.

They all advertise responsible gaming and state 24/7 support but unfortunately don't truly support this.

I strongly believe they should all have a duty of care of their players.

I hope you find the help you need

Jonnywhizzle
pre 3 meseci

Zahvaljujem vam,

Znam da neće biti lako, bio sam siguran da sam konačno izašao iz toga, ali bilo je dovoljno da vidim reklamu na veb stranici tog kazina da uđem, otkrijem da još uvek mogu da igram i da mi ponovo oduzmu sav novac .

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imnotd4ny
pre 3 meseci

I think it's the same with any addiction, it never goes away.

There should be strong gambling laws that companies abide by.

Could you look at contacting your bank and try getting a gaming block?


Jonnywhizzle
pre 3 meseci

Probao sam to pre nekog vremena, ali postoji mnogo, previše načina za uplatu kod drugih kompanija koje to dozvoljavaju, a čak i ako blokiram te depozite, uvek postoje kriptovalute, ručne dopune koje kupujete u supermarketu, beskorisno je da blokira metod ako postoji još 1000 drugih

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pre 3 meseci

I know this too, I've seen all the methods and you will always find a way.

Have you got someone close to you who you could give access too to gain control over your accounts and guide you to a healthier living.

I think you need to try everything to fight this and prevent going down that dark road

Jonnywhizzle
pre 3 meseci

Tražio sam da moja devojka ima pristup mojim nalozima, imala ih je 3 meseca, onda je htela da mi veruje, a ja sam izneverio njeno poverenje, opet, nažalost, nema sigurnih metoda, stvarno sam prestao, 5 minuta je dovoljno da se opet upropasti

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pre 3 meseci

It's easy to say but I try thinking before a bet or deposit, am I going to win? Have I won in the past? Before depositing a sum or feeling the need to gamble put that sum in a separate savings account and see what you have after a year. You'd have that financial fulfillment that's worth more than any bet.

As I said easier said than done.

It's clear to say non gamestop companies are not helping . What can be done ? Its a topic that needs discussion.

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Jonnywhizzle
pre 3 meseci

Nije lako jer kada počnem da igram sve postaje iracionalno, za ovih meseci bez igre kupio sam nekoliko korisnih stvari za kuću i za devojku, uštedeo sam nešto novca, ali sada mi ništa više nije ostalo, nakon što sam izgubio prvih 500 dolara Počeo sam da igram da bih povratio sumu, na kraju sam izgubio sve, moje misli su manje jasne dok igram.


Pročitao sam na ovom sajtu da rade na globalnom isključenju, ali mislim da je i ovo lakše reći nego učiniti.


Napravili ste ozbiljnu temu za diskusiju i nadam se da će se i drugi članovi pridružiti razgovoru.

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imnotd4ny
pre 3 meseci

I hope so because this is a serious issue.

Me personally think it's wrong to advertise as non gamestop let alone have no tools in place to protect players with problems.

I understand what you say everything becomes irrational but try to think of that feeling of regret that comes once you have lost. Its a horrible feeling.

I wish there was something you could replace the feeling to gamble with. Have a think and try finding that something.

pre 3 meseci

Hi Romi,

I completely agree that not all of them are out to target problem players I just feel that some advertise responsible gaming but without having to enforce it which I completely disagree with.

I believe if a player reaches out stating a problem and you advertise responsible gaming the account should be excluded. Unfortunately this isn't always the case they seem to ignore your requests. Why ? Can only be financial gain Unfortunately.


But again agreed not all are in this category but I've seen it with a few of these now.

pre 3 meseci

It should really be taken very seriously when it comes to responsible gaming, and every casino should immediately act whenever a player asks for the closure of the account due to their gambling addiction.

pre 3 meseci

I also can't help but feel the advertising of "non gamestop" is reaching out to players who may have a problem, players who have made that big step to realise their problem and contact gamestop.

But now there is a new door open ....

Just a thought

pre 3 meseci

I surely do get your point here, and to me, it doesn't really make sense why they would advertise it like this, to tell you the truth.

pre 3 meseci

Zdravo Džoni, odgovoriću ti, upravo sam juče otvorio žalbu jer sam od novembra 2023. na lečenju kod psihologa od zavisnosti od kockanja, ozbiljno sam rizikovao da izgubim kuću, završio sam na sudu, pomogli su mi roditelji koji je plaćanjem poništio kaznu inače bih se našao sa svojom devojkom i svoje 3 mačke ispred kuće bez smeštaja, aktivirao sam samoisključivanje iz kazina zauvek, ali od 10. jula do 18. jula 2024. godine sam se vratio u njega preko kazina koji mi je i dalje dozvoljavao da igram, nakon meseci kada to nisam radio, ponovo sam izgubio sve, prijavio sam se u kazino 2022. godine sa istom e-poštom i verifikovao sa istim telefonskim brojem koji se koristi za nacionalno samoisključenje (kazino ima mogućnost rada u mojoj zemlji pa mi se čini nevjerovatnim da ni on tamo nije isključen s obzirom da su imali podatke o mejlu i broju telefona, nažalost ne sećam se da li sam te godine uradio kompletan KIC ), zatražio sam privatnom porukom i samoisključivanje putem ćaskanja uživo ubrzo nakon primljenog prvog izbacivanja, pošto kazino nema svoju funkciju samoisključivanja, nažalost nisam bio saslušan, našao sam vrata otvorena nekoliko dana pre i opet sam pao na to, sada ne mogu da platim kiriju i kasnim već 10 dana, povećao sam termine kod psihologa ali se osećam sterano u ćošak, pun stida, nastavljam da živim sa anksioznošću u stomaku i strah od toga da sve ponovo proživljavam. Više ne živim dobro, zavisnost od kockanja se ne shvata ozbiljno, a sada (kao i mnogi ljudi koji se verovatno plaše pomoći) rizikujem da ponovo izgubim sve i ne znam kako da se izvučem iz toga.

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pre 3 meseci

Hello. I am really sorry for this situation of yours. I have seen your complaint an I hope that our team will be able to help you out.

Please keep us informed about any updates regarding your case and stay strong.


Romi
pre 3 meseci

Zdravo, nadam se da ću uspeti da dobijem čak samo 50% ili 60% izgubljene sume da bih mogao da platim kiriju, da se vratim mirnom životu sa manje anksioznosti i da budem zauvek isključen iz tog nereda i takođe iz drugi.

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pre 3 meseci

Hi everyone,

Sorry to hear about your struggles imnitd4ny. The game is viscious and there are many traps.

Online gambling is regulated country by country and many online casinos are targeting players from off-shore. There is little effective way how to prevent it except player choosing the locally regulated option. This applies for protection as well, especially self-exclusion. Volume for "casinos not on gamstop" is huge, unfortunately.

I understand that it is difficult to avoid this when you are experiencing problems with control. However, it is important to continuously work on that. As you might already know.

Even though there is no international self-exclusion system, there is a blocking app that can help you. It will block the access to gambling websites and apps on your devices, providing the only international protection currently available. Check out BetBlocker website. We recently started working closely with them to support the initiative around global self-exclusion. Read the instructions carefuly and do not block information sites, if you want to keep access to Casino Guru.


Hold tight,

Simon

SimonV
pre 3 meseci

Dobro jutro Simone,

Hvala vam na odgovoru i na savetu, pogledaću nakon što rešim žalbu, sada se plašim da ne napravim štetu i blokiram sve 😀

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