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While I understand how it works, I still don't know why would anyone launder their money that way considering how risky it is, opposite betting is not that hard to discover, identifying suspicious deposit/withdrawals patterns neither, and if the payment method is crypto then it's thousand times easier to find out throught blockchain analysis if someone is laundering money. So to me the only way that's possible is if the casino is consenting it, otherwise the is no reason to try that, since there are many other ways to launder money online and none of them is as risky as doing it through casinos.

I'm curious if there has ever been a complaint here where a player got accused of money laundering, you shared a complaint where allegedly two players colluded to make opposite bets, but I doubt that's a money laundering case as the amount is no that high

If someone is money laundering with a casino they are not looking for a gain, they want to have a way to justify the money and have proof of it, they actually lose money by laundering it through a casino, because no matter in which game they place opposite bets with other associates they will always lose money, for example, the 5% commission on the banker or splitting all numbers on roulette to bet on the entire wheel on opposite ends would cause a loss on every single spin, as the payout is 36 to 1, and there are 37 different outcomes, and if they decide to only make opposite even-money bets they would lose both bets when a 0 kicks in.

The point is having a way to clarify the source of the money (winnings on casino games), not a risk-free or efficient way to do so but it's easy to prove, as they would only need their betting history to justify it

The gain is the money is considered pure winnings gained from the casino. But technically, it was just a few losses instead. You put "dirty money in" and take "clean winnings" back.

It's not my imagination it happens a lot.

I took the opposite bets as an example, but I recall a few cases based on this practice. Sadly I couldn't find any of those.

But I dig up this case. As you can see, it's lacking shreds of evidence or explanation - for me, this is a key 🙂

https://casino.guru/forum/casinos/slotbox-casino---general-discussion/3#post-48304

What is your main casino where you play often?

I would be really interested in that because I think you have quite a lot of knowledge about this whole topic.

It's really fun to read your posts as well as Nigeljc's🫡

Welches ist den dein Haupt casino in dem du öfters spielst?

Mich würde das echt interessieren da ich der meinung bin das du ziemlich großes wissen über diese ganze Thematik hast.

Macht echt Spaß deine Beiträge zu lesen genau wie das von Nigeljc🫡

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I am absolutely your intention.

Laundering money in casinos would not only be VERY risky but also pretty stupid 😀

I don't think people with a little brain launder their money in online casinos 😂

That would be a method where you would often lose the money that is not profitable.

There are definitely better ways of doing this that, like you said, are less risky.

Some certainly use this to just pull money out of people's pockets 😑

Bin ich absolut deiner absicht.

In casinos Geld zu waschen wäre nicht nur SEHR riskant sondern auch ziemlich dumm 😀

Ich denke nicht das Leute mit einem klein bißchen Hirn ihr Geld in online casinos waschen 😂

Das wäre eine Methode wo man oft das Geld verlieren würde was sich nicht rentiert.

Es gibt bestimmt bessere Möglichkeiten dies zu tun die wie du sagtest weniger riskant sind.

Einige nutzen dies sicherlich aus um Leuten einfach das Geld aus der Tasche zu ziehen 😑

I am really amazed by this case!

I've also followed it and as far as this casino is concerned I'm just split in terms of opinions and personally I can't understand why the casino pulled such a lousy number and Biggelow confiscated the winnings.

Not too long ago I had a really big win which was a little more than €8500 and it was paid out without any problems.

They have a limit of €4000 per day which is why I had to wait 3 days to request a daily withdrawal but that was all.

And that is exactly the reason why I ask myself what was the reason???

Then why am I being paid a profit that turned out to be a little higher?

I really seriously ask myself why it was because I didn't have the impression that Biggelow was lying.

I find it really strange and wonder what factors led to taking the money away from an honest player...

I would be really mad at 8500€ if they just confiscated it from me, which is why I don't understand why they pulled off such a number.

I hope the regulator will do something for the player but as we all know there is not much to rely on these regulators ^^

Ich bin wirklich verwundert über diesen Fall!

Habe es auch mitverfolgt und was speziel dieses casino angeht bin ich einfach gespalten was die Meinungen angeht und kann es persönlich nicht verstehen wieso das Casino so ne miese Nummer abgezogen hat und dem Biggelow die gewinne beschlagnahmt hat.

Ich hatte da vor nicht all zu langer Zeit einen echt hohen Gewinn welches etwas mehr als die 8500€ waren und diese wirklich ohne Probleme ausbezahlt wurden.

Sie haben einen limit von 4000€ pro Tag was der grund war wieso ich 3 tage warten musste um täglich eine Auszahlung zu beantragen aber mehr war da nicht.

Und genau das ist der Grund wieso ich mich frage woran hat es gelegen???

Wieso zahlt man mir dann einen Gewinn aus der etwas höher ausgefallen ist?

Ich frage mich wirklich ernsthaft woran es gelegen hat da ich nicht den Eindruck hatte das der Biggelow lügt.

Ich finde es echt merkwürdig und frage mich welche Faktoren dazu geführt haben einem ehrlichen Spieler das Geld weg zu nehmen...

Ich wäre bei 8500€ echt sauer wenn man mir diesen einfach so beschlagnahmen würde weswegen ich nicht verstehe wieso man so eine Nummer abgezogen hat.

Ich hoffe die Aufsichtsbehörde tut etwas zu gunsten des spieler aber wie wir alle wissen ist nicht unbedingt viel verlass auf diese Behörden ^^

Definitely, imagine being a launderer, you try to use a casino to mix funds and the casino doesn't find out but they still confiscate your funds simply because they are not willing to pay out 😂 and now worse, if they find out and confiscate your funds the money is forever lost and you can't even complain about it nor expose the case. If legit players often get their money robbed by casinos, then the risk for money launderers is doubled down 😆

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In my opinion, Stake is a reputable casino in which I have never had any problems.

My main account where I play the most is 21 Casino Casino .

For me personally one of the hottest casinos ever.

Never had any stress and payouts are always pleasant and stress-free 🙂

Have you played at 21 before?

Bei Stake spiele ich auch ab und zu ist meines Erachtens nach ein seriöses casino in welchem ich nie Probleme hatte.

Mein Haupt Konto wo ich am meisten spiele ist 21 Casino Spielbank.

Für mich persönlich eines der geilsten Casinos überhaupt.

Hatte nie Stress und Auszahlungen verlaufen immer angenehm und ohne Stress 🙂

Hast du bei 21 schon einmal gespielt?

In any case, it would be pretty unwise 😂

Wäre auf alle Fälle ziemlich unklug 😂

I have never played there, currently the only european casinos I play on from time to time are West Casino and Betway, and honestly I want more european options so will probably add that one to my pending casinos to test, the reason why I don't currently use european operators is because crypto is my favorite payment option, and so far the only european casino I know that accepts crypto is West Casino, would love to find more. For sports I exclusively use the Betfair exchange, which I use every single day for horse racing

Played Finn at Mystake for 3 hrs+ tonight up and down but made 2 deposits of €25 lost first cashed out at €1150 a good dodge 😜👍

Sadly, the casino's arguments were solid and also not for the public eye.🙁

So, I'd say this is the main difference between your experience and the complaint. I genuinely feel weird since I can't share further details...

I'm also quite sure the regulator won't care. Not much left to say.

The magic worked! Congratulations, nigeljc!✨🙌

Congratulations!!!

That's how fun it is to gamble!

Continued success!

Gratulation!!!

So macht zocken doch Spaß!

Weiterhin viel Erfolg!

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