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Normally, it works more or less like this:

One person or an organized group registers in the casino, makes several deposits then place a few bets with the lowest possible risk, opposite betting included. Then the withdrawal request is made.

Simple as that.

As you can see, the banking history can provide a hint if the fraud is suspected.

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While I understand how it works, I still don't know why would anyone launder their money that way considering how risky it is, opposite betting is not that hard to discover, identifying suspicious deposit/withdrawals patterns neither, and if the payment method is crypto then it's thousand times easier to find out throught blockchain analysis if someone is laundering money. So to me the only way that's possible is if the casino is consenting it, otherwise the is no reason to try that, since there are many other ways to launder money online and none of them is as risky as doing it through casinos.

I'm curious if there has ever been a complaint here where a player got accused of money laundering, you shared a complaint where allegedly two players colluded to make opposite bets, but I doubt that's a money laundering case as the amount is no that high

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The bit I don't understand is you have to withdraw by the same method as you deposited so you have the same money back in your bit coin or bank account less the few bets you made so where is the gain? 🤔

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If someone is money laundering with a casino they are not looking for a gain, they want to have a way to justify the money and have proof of it, they actually lose money by laundering it through a casino, because no matter in which game they place opposite bets with other associates they will always lose money, for example, the 5% commission on the banker or splitting all numbers on roulette to bet on the entire wheel on opposite ends would cause a loss on every single spin, as the payout is 36 to 1, and there are 37 different outcomes, and if they decide to only make opposite even-money bets they would lose both bets when a 0 kicks in.

The point is having a way to clarify the source of the money (winnings on casino games), not a risk-free or efficient way to do so but it's easy to prove, as they would only need their betting history to justify it

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The bit I don't understand is you have to withdraw by the same method as you deposited so you have the same money back in your bit coin or bank account less the few bets you made so where is the gain? 🤔

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The gain is the money is considered pure winnings gained from the casino. But technically, it was just a few losses instead. You put "dirty money in" and take "clean winnings" back.

It's not my imagination it happens a lot.

SunsetGaze
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I took the opposite bets as an example, but I recall a few cases based on this practice. Sadly I couldn't find any of those.

But I dig up this case. As you can see, it's lacking shreds of evidence or explanation - for me, this is a key 🙂

https://casino.guru/forum/casinos/slotbox-casino---general-discussion/3#post-48304


SunsetGaze
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Koji je vaš glavni kazino u kojem često igrate?

Zaista bi me to zanimalo jer mislim da imate dosta znanja o celoj ovoj temi.

Zaista je zabavno čitati vaše postove kao i Nigeljcove🫡

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Anonymized417
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SunsetGaze
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U San Pedro Suli, Honduras, veoma lepo Sunsetgaze🌴 sigurno je lepo mesto.

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SunsetGaze
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Ja sam apsolutno tvoja namera.

Pranje novca u kockarnicama ne bi bilo samo VEOMA rizično već i prilično glupo 😀

Mislim da ljudi sa malo mozga ne peru svoj novac u onlajn kockarnicama 😂

To bi bio metod gde biste često izgubili novac koji nije isplativ.

Definitivno postoje bolji načini za to koji su, kao što ste rekli, manje rizični.

Neki sigurno koriste ovo da samo izvuku novac iz džepova ljudi 😑


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Radka
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Zaista sam zadivljen ovim slučajem!

I ja sam to pratio i što se ovog kazina tiče, samo sam podeljen u pogledu mišljenja i lično ne mogu da razumem zašto je kazino izvukao tako loš broj, a Biggelou zaplenio dobitak.

Ne tako davno sam imao zaista veliku pobedu koja je bila nešto više od €8500 i isplaćena je bez ikakvih problema.

Imaju ograničenje od 4000 € dnevno, zbog čega sam morao da čekam 3 dana da zatražim dnevno povlačenje, ali to je bilo sve.

I upravo to je razlog zašto se pitam šta je bio razlog???

Zašto mi se onda isplaćuje profit za koji se ispostavilo da je malo veći?

Zaista se ozbiljno pitam zašto jer nisam imao utisak da Biggelou laže.

Mislim da je to zaista čudno i pitam se koji su faktori doveli do toga da se poštenom igraču oduzme novac...

Baš bih se naljutio na 8500€ da su mi ih samo zaplenili, zato ne razumem zašto su izvukli toliki broj.

Nadam se da će regulator učiniti nešto za igrača, ali kao što svi znamo nema mnogo toga da se oslanjamo na ove regulatore ^^


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Ja sam apsolutno tvoja namera.

Pranje novca u kockarnicama ne bi bilo samo VEOMA rizično već i prilično glupo 😀

Mislim da ljudi sa malo mozga ne peru svoj novac u onlajn kockarnicama 😂

To bi bio metod gde biste često izgubili novac koji nije isplativ.

Definitivno postoje bolji načini za to koji su, kao što ste rekli, manje rizični.

Neki sigurno koriste ovo da samo izvuku novac iz džepova ljudi 😑


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Definitely, imagine being a launderer, you try to use a casino to mix funds and the casino doesn't find out but they still confiscate your funds simply because they are not willing to pay out 😂 and now worse, if they find out and confiscate your funds the money is forever lost and you can't even complain about it nor expose the case. If legit players often get their money robbed by casinos, then the risk for money launderers is doubled down 😆

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Koji je vaš glavni kazino u kojem često igrate?

Zaista bi me to zanimalo jer mislim da imate dosta znanja o celoj ovoj temi.

Zaista je zabavno čitati vaše postove kao i Nigeljcove🫡

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Currently my main casino account is Stake, no bonuses at all except for a rebate I get on a weekly and monthly basis, for example, this month I have wagered only 3000 USD and received 23 USD in rebate, making the rebate percentage something around 0.70-0.75% (received on a weekly and monthly basis). Withdrawals are instant, at least for USDT, that's why I made it my main casino account, still use other casinos from time to time, but not much. What about you? What's your main casino?

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SunsetGaze
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Po mom mišljenju, Stake je renomiran kazino u kojem nikada nisam imao problema.

Moj glavni nalog na kojem najviše igram je 21 Casino Casino .

Za mene lično jedan od najtoplijih kazina ikada.

Nikada nisam imao stres i isplate su uvek prijatne i bez stresa 🙂

Da li ste ranije igrali sa 21?

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SunsetGaze
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U svakom slučaju, bilo bi prilično nerazumno 😂


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I have never played there, currently the only european casinos I play on from time to time are West Casino and Betway, and honestly I want more european options so will probably add that one to my pending casinos to test, the reason why I don't currently use european operators is because crypto is my favorite payment option, and so far the only european casino I know that accepts crypto is West Casino, would love to find more. For sports I exclusively use the Betfair exchange, which I use every single day for horse racing

SunsetGaze
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Played Finn at Mystake for 3 hrs+ tonight up and down but made 2 deposits of €25 lost first cashed out at €1150 a good dodge 😜👍

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Zaista sam zadivljen ovim slučajem!

I ja sam to pratio i što se ovog kazina tiče, samo sam podeljen u pogledu mišljenja i lično ne mogu da razumem zašto je kazino izvukao tako loš broj, a Biggelou zaplenio dobitak.

Ne tako davno sam imao zaista veliku pobedu koja je bila nešto više od €8500 i isplaćena je bez ikakvih problema.

Imaju ograničenje od 4000 € dnevno, zbog čega sam morao da čekam 3 dana da zatražim dnevno povlačenje, ali to je bilo sve.

I upravo to je razlog zašto se pitam šta je bio razlog???

Zašto mi se onda isplaćuje profit za koji se ispostavilo da je malo veći?

Zaista se ozbiljno pitam zašto jer nisam imao utisak da Biggelou laže.

Mislim da je to zaista čudno i pitam se koji su faktori doveli do toga da se poštenom igraču oduzme novac...

Baš bih se naljutio na 8500€ da su mi ih samo zaplenili, zato ne razumem zašto su izvukli toliki broj.

Nadam se da će regulator učiniti nešto za igrača, ali kao što svi znamo nema mnogo toga da se oslanjamo na ove regulatore ^^


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Sadly, the casino's arguments were solid and also not for the public eye.🙁

So, I'd say this is the main difference between your experience and the complaint. I genuinely feel weird since I can't share further details...

I'm also quite sure the regulator won't care. Not much left to say.

Anonymized417
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The magic worked! Congratulations, nigeljc!✨🙌

Anonymized417
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Čestitam!!!

Eto kako je zabavno kockati se!

Nastavak uspeha!

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Played Finn at Mystake for 3 hrs+ tonight up and down but made 2 deposits of €25 lost first cashed out at €1150 a good dodge 😜👍

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I think a type of bonus that would fit your betting style is a sticky bonus because they don't have wagering requirements, you get your hits and move on, I feel we have the same betting style and these bonuses normally work for me and they are not too hard to find ❗

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