We just released a new video about how slots work. Tell us what you think!

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Hello everyone.

We are always trying to spread knowledge casino games. First, we launched a video about the mathematics of games of chance (watch it on YouTube if you haven't already). Now, we focused specifically on slot machines and how they work.

We hope this video will help inexperienced players understand how slots work and why some things they may believe are just myths. And hopefully even experienced slot players will find out something they didn't know before.

Any feedback is appreciated. Leave it either here or in a comment directly on YouTube.

So, here is the new video:

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Inferno

Stariji Napredni Korisnik

Srbija

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Sjajan video! Sviđa mi se starac i animacije, ovo je početak, nadam se, neke video serije o automatima, kockarnicama i propisima .. sjajan posao

Imam i nekoliko pitanja

1. Dobavljači kontroliraju slotove (dobitak, gubitak, rtp), što s činjenicom da samo igrači koji igraju velike ruke mogu osvojiti jackpot ili imaju puno veće šanse (ranije spomenuto) koja je matematička osnova iza toga ako su svi okreti slučajni?

2. Što je s rangom kazina igrača, gdje svaki kazino ima uvid u transakcije igrača, svaku igru, dobit koju su na njoj ostvarili. Na primjer (osobno to doživim 1000 puta) ako igrač položi 2 puta i izgubi, treći put ima više šansa da nešto osvojite i vratite nešto novca nego posljednja 2 puta (i obrnuto) .. Što znači 2 stvari, - ta kazina imaju nekakve tokove i vode igrače koji su izgubili 2 puta bez povlačenja na + (%) RTP i igrači koji su već pobijedili na - RTP , ili da ih provajderi vode.

Mislio sam da je to posao provajdera, ali opet se to događa i ako igrate različite igre i provajdere i teško možete imati veze sa samim provajderima. Ovo nije glupo pričanje, u svojih 10 godina igranja utora, ovo sam doživio doslovno 1000 puta. Nadam se da će neki drugi to moći potvrditi.

3. Također je ranije spomenuto da neki pružatelji usluga poput PRAGMATIC i PLAY'n go, imaju sumnjiv rtp i casino ih može popraviti, te da su oni jedan od najgorih pružatelja usluga, što mogu potvrditi- (dodajući Betsoft i Netent ), .. Koji pružaoci usluga to takođe mogu učiniti?

Vidio sam da mnoga licencirana kazina sve više promoviraju pragmatične igre ..

4. Možete li napraviti članak ili video zapis o Slotima za nove igrače ili igračima općenito koji ne znaju koje slotove igrati, u smislu -da biste izabrali slotove koji imaju veće šanse za pobjedu na START-u, progresivne ili čekaju na bonus i igre u kojima je lako dobiti bonus rundu ili rasipati + igre u kojima je teško dati više.

. Pitam ovo jer vidim da većina ljudi uplaćuje i gubi novac igrajući neke igre koje su fiksne ili TEŠKE da bi pogodile bonus rundu ili neku od karakteristika, a postoje slotovi u kojima mogu instantno osvojiti ruku ruku, lako + na početku sa malim novcem, takođe s obzirom na dobavljače.

Također ovo nije samo glup razgovor, pomogao sam toliko ljudima predloživši im igre koje im mogu pomoći da dobiju nešto + novca na početku i odvedu ih do onoga što žele igrati. Postoje ofc demo, ali ako netko nema vremena provesti 5 sati učeći vrste slotova.

5. U ovom videu se visoko spominje situacija koja je dobro poznata - ako neko pobijedi veliki ne igrajte taj slot neko vrijeme ...

Ovo je upitno.

Takođe je bilo riječi o ovome na forumu, i netko potvrđuje ... To mogu potvrditi samo u zemaljskim kockarnicama, nekako je istina, ako neko nedavno osvoji veliki novac na određenom automatu, šanse za dobitak su vam zaista male. TAKOĐER bolji primjer ako neko izgubi velik novac i ako sjednete za njim, velike su vam šanse da osvojite nešto novca. Također ovo doživjeli 1000 puta u zemaljskim kasinima, a to je poznato među najstarijim igračima i ljudima iz kazina. IDK zašto, možda još uvijek rade po slot po slot sistemu (nisu spojeni za RTP ili nešto slično ... ali ovo je stvar.

Takođe radnici provjeravaju i slikaju svaku mašinu, svaki dan ulazak / izlazak novca na kraju smjene. Zašto bi to učinili ako su spojeni?

U svakom slučaju, bez obzira na slučaj, važno je da se igrači zabave.

Ponekad (ne znam zašto) igram neke igre čak i ako znam da ću izgubiti, samo zato što mi se sviđa ta igra i to je u redu. Na to gledam kao na plaćanje zabave, poput video igara ili nešto..fc uvijek postoji šansa za pobjedu, ali ipak.

Dopamin ionako pogađa 😀

Great video! I like the old man and animations, this is a start i hope ,of some video series about slots, casinos and regulations.. great job

I have also couple questions

1.Providers control slots(winnings,loss,rtp), what about the fact that only players playing big hand can win jackpot or have much better chance(mentioned earlier) what is a math behind that if all spins are random?

2.What is with casinos players rank,where every casino have insight of players transaction, every play, profit they made on it.For example(i personally experience this 1000 times) if player deposit 2 times and lose, the 3rd time have more chance to win something and return some money than the last 2 times(and the other way around)..Which means 2 things,-that casinos have some kind of Funnels,and lead players who lost 2 times without withdrawal to + (%) RTP and players who already won to - RTP, or that Providers lead them.

I was thinking that's providers business, but then again this happens also if u play different games and providers and hardly can have connection with providers themselves.This is not silly talk, in my 10years of playing slots, i experienced this literally 1000 times. I hope some others can confirm.

3.Also mentioned earlier that some providers like PRAGMATIC and PLAY'n go, have questionable rtp and casino can fix them, and that they one of the worst providers to play,which i can confirm-(adding Betsoft and Netent) ,.. Which providers also can do that?

I have seen many Licenced casinos more and more promoting Pragmatic games ..

4.Can u made an article or video about Slots for new players, or players in general who don't know which slots to play ,in sense of -to chose slots that have more chance to win on START, progressive or waiting to bonus round,and games where si easy to get bonus round or scatter + games where is hard by give more.

.Im asking this because i see most people deposit and lose money playing some games that are fixed or HARD to hit bonus round or some feature, and there are slots where they can win instant hand by hand,easy + on start with low money , also considering Providers.

Also this is not just silly talk,i helped so many people by suggest them games that can help them get some + money on start and lead them to what they want to play.There are ofc demos, but if someone don't have time to spend 5 hours learning types of slots.

5.In this vid there is a high mention of situation that is well known - if someone win big do not Play that slot for some time...

This is questionable.

Also there was a word about this in forum,and someone confirms... I can confirm this only in Ground based casinos, it's kinda true, if someone win big money recently at specific machine the chances to you to win are really low. ALSO better example if someone lose big money and u sit after him your chances are big to win some money.Also experienced this 1000 times in ground based casinos,and it's a common knowledge among oldest players and people from casinos. IDK why , maybe they still running by slot per slot system (they are not merged for RTP or something...but this is a thing.

Also workers check and take a pic for every machine each,the daily in/out of money at the end of the shift.Why would they do that if they are merged ?

Anyways,whatever the case is , it's important that players have fun.

I sometimes (i don't know why) play some games even if i know that im gonna lose ,just because i like that game,and that is fine.i look at that as some sort of paying for fun, like video games or something..ofc there is always chance to win but still.

The Dopamine hits anyway 😀

paclmaya

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Austrija

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OriginalPrevod

Video je dobro urađen, nema sumnje o tome, ali jednostavno ne vjerujem u gluposti sa generatorom slučajnih brojeva

Kako je moguće da imam samo loše igre na Moonlight-Princess ili Rise of Olympia od aprila. Kako princeze ili bogovi to mogu spriječiti i ne dopustiti 95% besplatnih okretaja.

Kako je moguće da sam već preko 100 pčela sakupio u Wild Swarm na max nivou, a roj jednostavno ne pokreće.

Kako je moguće da sam zadnjih 5 puta otključao u Street Magic 10-12-12-8-10 i uvijek imao divlje namotaje 1, 2, 3, 5 i jednostavno ne dobivam divljinu na kolu 4 kako bih mogao doći više besplatnih okretaja.

Ali nije važno, sve je samo slučajno. Baš je čudno da ta slučajnost teško dolazi u igru sa Streamerom, ali to je druga tema.

Nije bez razloga svaki igrač ima svoju ličnu kartu - dodijeljen mu je - vjerujem da svaki igrač dobiva određene generatore slučajnih brojeva sa svojom ličnom karticom. Po mom mišljenju, ne može raditi na bilo koji drugi način.

Kao što rekoh, vaš video je prilično simpatičan, ali mislim da nije 100% tačan - sigurno će biti određenih stvari koje su tačne sa stanovišta polazišta, ali ne sve - izvini, jednostavno mogu Ne mogu zamisliti. Jer tada bi to usmjerili na mrežu

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well done video. I like the guru very much, nice character. Congratulations to your team, you do a great job.

I think everything in the video is correct, maybe a little simplified but correct. I read some comments to the video, I don't think the slots have memory of activities of single players. I think that 2 aspects have been missed fom the description of how slots work:

1.Volatility: how often do slots pay? More often they pay, lower are winnings.

2. Jackpot: The jackpot contributes to the RTP. So jackpot slots pay out less in regular wins (because part of the RTP is done by the jackpot win)

Maros

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Inferno

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Hey there. Sorry for not responding in such a long time. I will do my best now, hopefully the stuff you wrote is still relevant. 🙂

1. They don't control winning or losing in any given spin, they just control the overall chances (RTP, volatility, frequency of symbols, payouts, etc.). I think that if a game has a progressive jackpot, for example, you can get a higher chance (theoretical likelihood) of hitting it when betting more, but the result in any particular spin is still random.

2. I think that this doesn't happen and casinos don't increase the RTP for any particular player.

3. I think this is becoming quite a common practice and many providers do it. They create versions of the same game with various RTPs and then let the casino choose which version they want. It's not ideal, of course, but I would not call it "cheating" or anything like that. But the RTP has to be disclosed and easy to find, so that players know which version they are playing.

4. We are currently creating a video for beginners, but it doesn't focus on game selection. It focuses primarily on things to know before playing, choosing a casino, etc. But what you described might be a good idea for the future 🙂

5. As far as I am concerned, this is just a myth, as we explained in the video as well.

Maros

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paclmaya

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Hi paclmaya.

I am sorry about your bad experience. The truth is, even though the spins are random, unlikely things like this can happen. All games are designed to behave in certain ways, and some of the things you described might be done on purpose by the designers. For example, with the wilds on reels 1, 2, 3, 5, but no wilds on reel 4... The designers might have purposely put very few wilds onto the 4th reel, so that it's less likely that you get more free spins. I am not saying it's true (I don't know the game nor the specifics of how it was designed), I am just saying that it might possibly be the case.

Not sure about the streamers, but I have to say that it might be difficult to judge based on their videos, because those are often "win compilations", where you see all the big wins, but you don't see the losses between them.

Maros

Userrob

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Thanks a lot! We do our best with the videos and I am glad you liked them. 🙂

Both points you made are correct, but we didn't want to go so deep in this video. It's already pretty long and complicated. Besides, we also have a video about games of chance in general, where we discuss volatility quite a lot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9fzMDzadtA.

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Iskreno - ne vjerujem u to sranje - nijedan se kazino ne može osloniti na faktor slučajnosti. Pogotovo je ova ocjena toliko komplicirana da je ionako nitko ne razumije. S moje tačke gledišta, to teče sasvim drugačije.

Sistem pamti koje igre volite igrati - zato imate svoj vlastiti ID broj. I slot igre se ponašaju u skladu s tim. Što više igrate svoje igre, one postaju sve gore. Najbolji primjer za mene trenutno je Moonlight Princess, Rise of olympia ili Elk-games Fives lake.

To nije laž - od aprila 2020. godine, tako da nedugo nakon početka Corone, 98% igara imam samo loše igre u 3 utakmice. Prinčevi i bogovi posebno blistaju kroz glupe odluke. Oni su više majstori preventora besplatnih igara. Šta još možeš reći nimma? I Fives Lake je isti - ako dobijete besplatna okretanja, teško da ćete dobiti bilo koji ključ, a ako imate otključane divljine teško da ćete išta osvojiti, jer su postavljeni na takav način da je velika pobjeda teško moguća.

Sada se morate bojati da ćete ući u besplatnu igru, jer čim se besplatna igra završi, igra se odmah prebacuje i pretvara se da je pogodila jackpot, jer se ono što se osvoji u besplatnim igrama odmah pojede .

Najbolji primjer mjesečine princeze ili uspona Olimpa. Slučajno postižete da se lopta napuni, a ne uz pomoć princeza ili bogova. A onda imate šanse od 10% i nemate više da dobijete besplatnu igru. To obično možete vidjeti na slici. Zatim tu su odluke koje su donijeli likovi i možda biste htjeli pokucati glavom na vrata, jer odluke jednostavno nisu korisne. Čak i ako ne uspijete spriječiti besplatna okretanja, i dalje imate mogućnost brisanja jednog besplatnog okretanja. I većina njih radi 90% toga. Cijela stvar traje od aprila - ali ne možete ništa reći - to je sve pošteno.

Šta bi mi ova ocjena trebala dokazati? Baš ništa, baš ništa. Sa svakim okretajem, super slučajnost se pogoršava

Honestly - I don't believe this bullshit - no casino can rely on the factor of chance. Especially this rating is so complicated that nobody understands it anyway. From my point of view, it runs off quite differently.

The system remembers which games you like to play - that's why you have your own ID number. And the slot games behave accordingly. The more you play your games, the worse they get. The best example for me at the moment is Moonlight Princess , Rise of olympia, or Elk-games Fives lake.

That's not a lie - since April 2020, so shortly after the start of Corona, 98% of the games I only have bad games in the 3 games. Especially the princes and gods only shine through stupid decisions. They are more the masters of free game preventers. What else can you say nimma? And Fives Lake is the same - if you get free spins, you hardly get any keys, and if you have unlocked wilds you hardly win anything, because they are placed in such a way that a big win is hardly possible.

Now you have to be afraid that you will get into a free game, because as soon as the free game is over, the game switches over immediately and pretends to have hit the jackpot, because what is won in the free games is eaten again immediately.

The best example of Moonlight Princess or Rise of Olympus. You achieve by chance that the ball gets full, not with the help of the princesses or gods. And then you have a chance of 10% and no more that you get a free game. You can usually see that from the picture. Then there are the decisions made by the characters, and you might want to knock your head on the door, because decisions are simply not useful. And even if you don't manage to prevent the free spins, you still have the option of wiping one out in the free spins. And most of them do 90% of that. The whole thing has been going on since April - but you can't say anything - that's all fair.

What is this rating supposed to prove to me? Nothing at all, nothing at all. With every spin you do, the rating-super coincidence worsens

Also ganz ehrlich-ich glaube diesen schwachsinn nicht-kein Casino kann sich auf den faktor Zufall verlassen.Vorallem dieses rating ist so kompliziert,das es sowieso keiner versteht. Es rennt aus meiner sicht ganz anders ab.

Das system merkt sich ,welche Spiele du gerne spielst-deswegen hast du ja auch eine eigene ID-nummer.Und dementsprechend verhalten sich dann die Slotspiele.Je öfters du deine Spiele spielst-desto schlechter werden sie.Bestes beispiel ist zurzeit bei mir Moonlight Princess,Rise of olympia ,oder von Elk-games Fives lake.

Das ist keine lüge-seit april 2020,also kurz nach Corona-beginn habe ich zu 98% nur schlechte Spiele bei den 3 games.Vorallem die Princesinnen und Götter glänzen ja nur noch durch dumme Entscheidungen.Sie sind eher die Meister der freispiel verhinderer. Was anders kann man da nimma sagen. Und Fives Lake das selbe-du bekommst falls du mal freispiele bekommst,kaum noch schlüssel,und wenn du wilds freigeschlaten hast gewinnst du auch kaum was ,weil sie so platziert werden,das kaum ein grosser gewinn möglich ist.

Jetzt musst du ja angst haben das du in ein freispiel kommst,denn sobald das Freispiel beendet,ist schaltet das Spiel sofort um und tut so als hätte man den jackpot geknackt.Weil einfach das was in den freispielen gewonnen wird sofort wieder gefressen wirds.

Bestes beispiel Moonlight Princess oder Rise of olympus. Du erreichst durch zufall ,das die Kugel voll wird,nicht durch die Hilfe der Princessinnen,oder Götter.Und dann hast du eine chance von 10% und nicht mehr,das du ein Freispiel erreichst.Das sieht man meistens schon wie das Bild aussieht.Dann kommen noch die entscheidungen der figuren dazu,und du könntest dir am liebsten mit dem kopf auf die tür klopfen.Weils einfach entscheidungen sind die nix bringen. Und selbst dann wenn sie es nicht schaffen die freispiele zu verhindern,haben sie noch immer die Möglichkeiten dir im freispiel eines auszuwischen.Und das machen sie meisten zu 90 %.Das ganze geht seit april so-aber man darf nix sagen-ist ja alles fair.

Was soll mir dieses rating beweisen? Nix gar nix-überhaupt nix.Mit jeden spin den du machst ,verschlechjtert sich das rating-super zufall

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It's normal to see various patterns in play, like certain games sometimes paying out a lot and sometimes not giving out any wins at all. But this is all a normal part of randomness. It's normal to see periods without any substantial wins, especially when playing high-volatility games – and all the games you mentioned have a high volatility. If a bonus usually pays out quite a lot of money, it can't be triggered too often, because the math would then not work out as intended. So it's quite usual to see a lot of "near misses".

Casinos CAN rely on randomness, because they know that they have an advantage in the games (house edge) and also a high number of players. Some players win, some players lose, but if you have a high number of players, the casinos can be pretty much sure that they will be profitable.

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Slots are not designed to make you win or lose, they’re just designed to give out symbols. It’s mostly luck. But if you do know the volatility of the game, you can guess when it can give out money. But that’s a big leap for guessing!

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