Igrač iz Nemačke ima poteškoća sa verifikacijom svog kazino naloga. Nakon detaljnijeg ispitivanja, na kraju smo odbili ovu žalbu jer postoji dovoljno dokaza da je igrač prekršio odredbe i uslove kazina.
The player from Germany is experiencing difficulties verifying his casino account. After a closer examination, we ended up rejecting this complaint as there is sufficient evidence the player has breached the casino's terms and conditions.
Igrač iz Nemačke ima poteškoća sa verifikacijom svog kazino naloga. Nakon detaljnijeg ispitivanja, na kraju smo odbili ovu žalbu jer postoji dovoljno dokaza da je igrač prekršio odredbe i uslove kazina.
Verifikacija se odbija. Uplatio sam svoje depozite kreditnom karticom i postavio slike kreditnih kartica sa skrivenim brojevima prema zahtevu agenata. U svakom slučaju, sada me kazino traži da učitam bankovni izvod sa IBAN-om, ali nisam koristio bankovni transfer za ovaj kazino. Kazino kaže da im je čak i za kreditnu karticu potreban IBAN iako ne postoji IBAN za kreditne kartice. Da bih potvrdio svoj bankovni račun, napravio sam još jedan depozit i otpremio dokaz o uplati koji je potvrđen, ali i dalje traže IBAN dokaz kreditne kartice.
Verification is getting declined. I have done my deposits with a credit card and uploaded credit card pics with some numbers hidden as per agents request. Anyhow now the casino is asking me to upload a bank statement with IBAN but I have not used bank transfer for this casino. Casino says that even for credit card they need a IBAN even though there is not IBAN for credit cards. To proof my bank account I have made another deposit and uploaded proof of payment which got confirmed but still they ask for credit card IBAN proof.
Poštovani ananaz1992,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao nam je što čujemo za problem sa verifikacijom vaših dokumenata. Da li sam tačno razumeo da je verifikacija vašeg načina plaćanja poslednja prepreka da biste podigli svoje dobitke? Da li vam je kreditnu karticu izdala vaša banka? Postoji li način da pristupite zvaničnoj listi transakcija u vezi sa vašom kreditnom karticom?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tomas
Dear ananaz1992,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. We are sorry to hear about the issue with verifying your documents. Do I understand correctly verifying your payment method is the last obstacle in order for you to withdraw your winnings? Was your credit card issued by your bank? Is there a way for you to access an official list of transactions related to your credit card?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Tomas
Zdravo Tomas,
hvala na odgovoru - prevod sa engleskog nije bio tako dobar. Kreditnu karticu nije izdala moja banka, već kreditnu karticu od milja i više. Dakle, verifikacija uplate je poslednji problem. Mogu da izvučem transakcije kao ekcel datoteku, ali Oshi je ovo ponovo odbio jer se ne prikazuje iban. Međutim, ne postoji iban za kreditne kartice.
Takođe sam izvršio depozit sa svog bankovnog računa i verifikovao ga, ali kreditna kartica još uvek nije prihvaćena (uprkos fotografijama).
Pozdrav
Fredrik
Hi Thomas,
thanks for the reply - the translation from english wasn't that good. The credit card is not issued by my bank, but a credit card from miles and more. So the verification of the payment is the last problem. I can pull the transactions as an excel file, but this was rejected again by Oshi because no iban is shown. However, there is no iban for credit cards.
I have also made a deposit from my bank account and verified it, but the credit card is still not accepted (despite photos).
greeting
Fredrik
Hi Thomas,
danke für die Antwort - die Übersetzung aus dem englischen war nicht so gut. Die Kreditkarte ist nicht von meiner Bank ausgestellt, sondern eine Kreditkarte von miles and more. Also ist die Verifizierung der Zahlung das letzte Problem. Ich kann die Transaktionen als excel Datei ziehen, dies wurde aber wieder von Oshi abgelehnt, weil keine iban abgebildet ist. Eine iban gibt es für Kreditkarten jedoch nicht.
zudem habe ich nun eine Einzahlung von meinem Bankkonto getätigt und dieses nun verifiziert, die Kreditkarte wird aber nachwievor nicht akzeptiert (trotz Fotos).
Gruß
Frederik
ananaz1992,
Imajte na umu da je KIC veoma važan i suštinski proces, tokom kojeg kazino osigurava da se novac pošalje pravom vlasniku. Kako nemaju luksuz da fizički vide sve igrače i provere njihove identifikacione i dokumente, to je jedini način na koji kockarske ustanove mogu da završe procedure verifikacije.
Da li možete da dostavite kazinu dokument da je kreditna kartica izdata na vaše ime ili da ste jedini korisnik kartice?
ananaz1992,
Please understand that KYC is a very important and essential process, during which the casino makes sure that the money is sent to the rightful owner. As they don't have the luxury of being able to physically see all of the players and check their identification and documents, this is the only way gambling establishments are able to complete the verification procedures.
Are you able to provide the casino with a document the credit card was issued in your name, or that you are the sole beneficiary of the card?
Zdravo Tomas
da, dao sam kazinu izjavu i takođe fotografisao kreditnu karticu, na kojoj je naravno moje ime. Međutim, ovo nije prihvaćeno jer je potreban iban (iako ne postoji iban za kreditne kartice).
Ažuriranje: sada je oshi blokirao moj nalog bez ikakvog razloga i neće isplatiti moj dobitak.
Hi Tomas
yes, I provided the casino with a statement and also took photos of the credit card, which of course has my name on it. However, this is not accepted because an iban is required (although there are no iban for credit cards).
Update: now oshi has blocked my account without any reason and won't pay out my winnings.
Hi Tomas
ja, ich habe dem Casino eine Abrechnung zur Verfügung gestellt und auch Fotos der Kreditkarte gemacht, auf der selbstverständlich mein Name steht. Dies wird aber nicht akzeptiert, weil eine iban gefordert wird (obwohl es keine iban für Kreditkarten gibt).
Update: nun hat oshi mein Konto gesperrt ohne Begründung und zahlt meine Gewinne nicht aus.
Poštovani ananaz1992,
Hvala na odgovoru i ažuriranju. Pre nego što kontaktiramo kazino, možete li da prosledite bilo kakvu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na moju adresu e-pošte KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ?
Dear ananaz1992,
Thanks for your reply and the update. Before we contact the casino, could you please forward any communication between you and the casino to my email address tomas@casino.guru?
Hvala na email. Izgleda da je kazino uveren da ste otvorili više naloga u kazinu prema njihovim odgovorima.
Postoji li šansa da je neko iz vašeg domaćinstva ili koji koristi istu IP adresu takođe napravio nalog u ovom kazinu? Čekaću vaš odgovor.
Thank you for your email. The casino seems to be convinced you opened multiple accounts in the casino according to their replies.
Is there any chance that someone from your household or using the same IP address has also created an account at this casino? I'll await your reply.
Zdravo Tomas,
moguće je da sam imao drugi nalog, pošto sam promenio adresu e-pošte, ovo više ne mogu da proverim. U svakom slučaju, glavni problem je i dalje verifikacija da dobijem svoj novac nazad - ne mogu da dam kazinu IBAN za svoju kreditnu karticu jer kreditne kartice nemaju dodeljene IBAN-ove. Kazino mi je ponudio da vratim novac, ali odmah nakon verifikacije koja nedostaje za depozit kreditne kartice.
Hi Tomas,
it might be that I had another account, as I have changed the email address, I cannot check this anymore. Anyhow main issue is still the verification to get my money back - I cannot provide the casino with an IBAN for my credit card as credit cards doesn’t have IBANs assigned. The casino offered me to transfer the money back but just after verification which is missing for the credit card deposit.
Hvala vam puno, ananaz1992, što ste dali potrebne informacije. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Mihalu ( KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, ananaz1992, for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.k@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Zdravo ananaz1992,
Ja sam Michal i preuzeo sam vašu žalbu. Pregledao sam ovaj slučaj i kontaktiraću kazino da rasvetlim ovu stvar. Samo da još jednom proverim, da li sam dobro razumeo da ste otvorili drugi kazino nalog u Oshi kazinu sa drugom adresom e-pošte?
Želeli bismo da pozovemo Oshi Casino da se pridruži razgovoru.
Dragi Oshi Casino,
Kao što je igrač naveo, njihova bankovna kartica nema IBAN. Igrač je dao slike svoje bankovne kartice kao i izvod sa kartice, ako vam to nije dovoljno, koje druge dokumente igrač treba da pruži? Ako ima još nešto što igrač treba da uradi ili dokumente da dostavi, navedite koje?
Hello ananaz1992,
I'm Michal and I have taken over your complaint. I have reviewed this case and I will contact the casino to shed more light on this matter. Just to double check, do I understand correctly that you have opened another casino account in Oshi Casino with a different email address?
We would like to invite Oshi Casino to join the conversation.
Dear Oshi Casino,
As the player stated, their bank card doesn't have an IBAN. The player has provided pictures of their bank card as well as the statement from the card, if this is not sufficient for you, what other documents should the player provide? If there is anything else the player needs to do or documents to provide, please specify which?
Zdravo Oshi tim,
Pokušao sam da se verifikujem i izvršio svoje depozite kreditnom karticom. Tražite od mene dokaz o iban-u, ali kreditne kartice nemaju iban brojeve. Dao sam vam slike kreditne kartice, ali i dalje tražite iban. Ne znam kako da vam pružim nešto što ne postoji.
regarss
Hi Oshi Team,
ive tried to verify myself and did my deposits with the credit card. You are asking me for a proof of iban but credit cards don’t have iban numbers. I’ve provided you with the credit card pictures but you still ask for a iban. Don’t know how to provide you with something which doesn’t exist.
regarss
Dragi Frederik,
Žao nam je što je došlo do ovakve situacije.
Oshi tim je uvek srećan kada igrači pobeđuju, međutim, da bi uspešno obradili dobitke, moraju se ispuniti svi uslovi i odredbe.
Dok smo obavljali redovnu proveru, pronašli smo direktan duplikat naloga koji je strogo zabranjen našim T&C.
«Svakom igraču je dozvoljeno da kreira samo jedan (1) lični nalog.
Kreiranje višestrukih naloga igrača od strane jednog igrača može dovesti, prema isključivom nahođenju kazina, do ukidanja svih takvih naloga i otkazivanja svih isplata igraču. Igrač neće omogućiti pristup svom nalogu igrača niti dozvoliti korišćenje veb stranice bilo kojoj trećoj strani, uključujući, ali ne ograničavajući se na maloletna lica.»
Svi uslovi i odredbe se mogu poštovati ovde, a prihvataju se nakon registracije: https://vvv.oshi.io/terms-and-conditions
Poslaćemo vam privatnu e-poštu da zatražite potrebna dokumenta za verifikaciju kako biste izvršili povraćaj vaših depozita.
Preporučujemo vam da pažljivo pročitate sve uslove kako biste izbegli takve situacije u budućnosti.
Oshi tim vam želi sve najbolje.
Dear Frederik,
We are sorry that such a situation occurred.
Oshi team is always happy when the players win, however, in order to successfully process the winnings, all the Terms and Conditions must be met.
While doing the regular checking we found a direct duplicate account which is strictly forbidden by our T&C.
«Each player is allowed to create only one (1) personal account.
Creating multiple Player Accounts by a single player can lead, at the sole discretion of the Casino, to termination of all such accounts and cancellation of all payouts to the player. The player shall not provide access to their Player Account or allow using the Website to any third party including but not limited to minors.»
All the Terms and Conditions may be observed here, and they are accepted upon signing up: https://www.oshi.io/terms-and-conditions
We will send you a private email to request the needed verification documents in order to do the refund of your deposits.
We recommend you to read all the terms carefully to avoid such situations in the future.
Oshi team wishes you all the best.
Dragi Oshi Casino timu,
Prosledite mi sve dokaze o višestrukim nalozima na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk
Dear Oshi Casino team,
Please forward all the evidence about the multiple accounts to me at michal.k@casino.guru
Hvala vam na odgovoru i pruženim dokazima, Oshi Casino tim.
Poštovani ananaz1992,
Oshi Casino tim nam je pružio snažne dokaze da je zaista bilo otvorenih više naloga sa istim ili vrlo sličnim detaljima kao što su ime, adresa, IP adresa, itd. kao što je vaš. Ovo je protivno odredbama i uslovima kazina i to nas primorava da se složimo sa odlukom kazina. Kazino je postupio u skladu sa svojim uslovima.
Nažalost, nakon prikupljanja svih potrebnih informacija primorani smo da odbijemo ovu žalbu. Da biste izbegli ovakve neprijatne situacije u budućnosti, preporučujem vam da kontaktirate podršku kazina da proverite da li ste već otvorili nalog u određenom kazinu.
Žao nam je što nismo bili u mogućnosti da vam pomognemo sa ovim, ali molim vas, ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate u budućnosti, ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom i mi ćemo se potruditi da vam pomognemo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Michal
Thank you for the response and the provided evidence, Oshi Casino team.
Dear ananaz1992,
Oshi Casino team has provided us strong evidence that there were indeed multiple accounts opened with the same or very similar details like name, address, IP address, etc. like yours. This is against the casino’s terms and conditions, and this forces us to agree with the casino's decision. The casino has acted according to its terms and conditions.
Unfortunately, after gathering all the necessary information we are forced to reject this complaint. To avoid any unpleasant situation like this in the future I recommend getting in touch with the casino's support to check if you have already opened an account in a certain casino.
Sorry we were not able to help you with this one, but please, do not hesitate to contact us in the future, if you run into any issues with this or any other casino and we will try our best to help.
Best regards,
Michal
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