Igrač iz Australije je zatražio povlačenje pre podnošenja ove žalbe. Nakon duže komunikacije sa kazinom, njegov dobitak je uspešno isplaćen.
The player from Australia requested a withdrawal prior to submitting this complaint. After lengthy communication with the casino, his winnings were successfully paid out.
Igrač iz Australije je zatražio povlačenje pre podnošenja ove žalbe. Nakon duže komunikacije sa kazinom, njegov dobitak je uspešno isplaćen.
Dear matonga,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. We are sorry to hear about the issue with your withdrawal and understand your concern. However, please bear in mind that it’s quite usual for withdrawals to take a couple of days or even weeks to get fully processed. This means that it may take some time before your money appears in your account. This delay may be caused by unfinished KYC verification or a high volume of withdrawal requests.
That’s why we advise players to be patient, cooperate fully with casino, and wait at least 14 days after requesting their withdrawals before submitting a complaint.
If your account has been successfully verified, your game history checked, your withdrawal approved by the casino, and you still haven't received your winnings by 14 days since requesting the withdrawal, we will intervene and do our best to help you.
Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding.
Best regards,
Complaints Resolution Center
osvojio 2900 dolara 2.4.2023
podelite povlačenja respektivno
2700 dolara je bio prvi
200 dolara je bilo drugo posle 20 minuta
za 12 sati 200$ potvrđeno za uplatu-uplata primljena 10 dana
2700 dolara još nije potvrđeno
bizarno je šta rade
Osećam da žele da vas frustriraju i na kraju ponište povlačenja
Nikada se nisu ovako ponašali
won $2900 4/2/2023
split the withdrawals respectively
$2700 was the first one
$200 was the second after 20 minutes
in 12 hours $200 confirmed for payment- payment received on the 10 day
$2700 not yet confirmed
it is bizarre what they are doing
I feel they want to frustrate you and end up reversing withdrawals
They never used to behave this this
je da je 450 dolara previše manje od jednog dana da bi se obradilo, a 2700 dolara nije dirano od 5.2.2023.
I dalje mi je teško da razumem
was that $450 too less than a day to be processed and $2700 has not been touched since 5/02/2023
I still find it hard to understand
Hvala na odgovoru, matonga. Da li ste pokušali da kontaktirate kazino u vezi sa ovim problemom? Možete li da prosledite svu relevantnu komunikaciju između vas i kazina na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ? Alternativno, možete ga objaviti ovde. Hvala unapred.
Thank you for your reply, matonga. Have you tried contacting the casino regarding this issue? Could you please forward all the relevant communication between you and the casino to kristina.s@casino.guru? Alternatively, you can post it here. Thank you in advance.
Šaljem im nekoliko mejlova
Danas sam bio frustriran.
Odlučio sam da podelim svoja povlačenja tako što ću preokrenuti 2700 dolara
Uradio sam to jer su obrađivali moje male pobede za manje od 2 dana
Započeto je 200, 450 dolara i potvrđeno je za manje od 2 dana
Podelio sam svoja povlačenja 865 dolara k 3
I 200 dolara. Nadam se da će ovo uspeti.
nisam morao da patim jer su oni uvek želeli da mušterije budu frustrirani i na kraju su poništili novac.
Prosledio sam vam neke od mejlova
njihov odgovor je isti za poslednje 2 nedelje. Oni krive plaćanje
oni uvek kažu da nemaju načina da ih kontaktiraju što je veoma bizarno
I send them several emails
I got frustrated today.
I have decided to split my withdrawals by reversing $2700
I did this because they were processing my small wins in less than 2 days
Initiated $200, $450 and it was confirmed in less than 2 days
I split my withdrawals $865x 3
And a $200. I hope this will work out.
i didn’t have to suffer because they always wanting customers to get frustrated and ended up reversing money.
I forwarded you some of the emails
their reply is the same for the last 2 weeks. They blame the payment
they always say they don’t have means of contacting them which is very bizarre
Imajte na umu da trenutno imamo stotine aktivnih pritužbi igrača kojima je potrebna pomoć i iako dajemo sve od sebe, nismo u mogućnosti da odmah odgovorimo na sve poruke. Imamo 7 dana da odgovorimo i uvek se vraćamo na svaku žalbu što je pre moguće. Molim vas ostanite sa nama. Hvala vam na strpljenju i razumevanju.
Pošto ste svoje isplate podelili na nova manja, preporučio bih vam da damo još nekoliko dana. Ako ova povlačenja ne budu obrađena u roku od nedelju dana, mi ćemo intervenisati. Molimo vas da nas u međuvremenu obaveštavate.
Please note we currently have hundreds of active complaints from players who need help and even though we try our best, it is not possible for us to reply immediately to all messages. We have 7 days to respond and we always get back to each complaint as soon as possible. Please, bear with us. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Since you've divided your withdrawals into new smaller ones, I would recommend that we give it a few more days. If these withdrawals are not processed within a week, we will intervene. Please, keep us updated in the meantime.
Ja ovo treba da intervenišete sada
da li mislite da je ovo prikladno
ovo povlačenje 2700 dolara započeto je 4. februara 2023
kako je ovo prihvatljivo?
I this you need to intervene now
do you think this appropriate
this $2700 withdrawal initiated 4th of February 2023
how can this acceptable?
Izgubio sam veru u tvoj profesionalizam
Mislim da ti uopšte ništa ne radiš.
ako pogledam u tvoj pogled, izgleda da si isti kao tim ove grupe na koju se žalim
vaši mejlovi su veoma odbrambeni i nemaju simpatije ni za šta
I lost faith in your professionalism
I don’t think you are doing anything at all.
if I look at your sight it looks you are same as team this group I’m complaining about
your emails are very defensive and have no sympathy with anything
Ne razumem o čemu pričaš. Nisam vam poslao nikakve mejlove. Ovo je aktivna nit za žalbe, a ne podrška za ćaskanje uživo 24/7, i uvek se vraćamo na svaku žalbu što je pre moguće. Trebalo bi da budete svesni toga pošto ste do sada podneli 8 žalbi i ovo je vaša četvrta žalba na ovaj kazino . Zato bih bio veoma zahvalan ako prestanete da pretpostavljate da smo mi loši momci. Hvala.
Pošto je vaš zahtev za povlačenje ponovo poništen, sada ću preneti vašu žalbu koleginici Veroniki ( VKSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koja će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
I don't understand what you are talking about. I have not sent you any emails. This is an active complaint thread, not a 24/7 live chat support, and we always get back to each complaint as soon as possible. You should be well aware of that since you have submitted 8 complaints so far and this is your 4th complaint about this specific casino. Therefore, I would really appreciate it if you stopped assuming that we are the bad guys here. Thanks.
Since your withdrawal request was canceled again, I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Veronika (Veronika.l@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Razumem da je u stvarnom svetu kvalitet pre kvantitet bitan
Očekivao sam efikasnu komunikaciju i akciju, kao i odgovor na postavljena pitanja
radi se o profesionalizmu
nije dobro što me zlostavljaju kazino mangro i osećam isti kontinuum od kazino gurua.
od svih pritužbi koje sam uputio, ne mogu da se setim definitivnog postupka sa ovim kockarnicama. Moj novac je bio na čekanju skoro mesec dana. Pokiez sigurno- Mislim da su opravdanje
otkazivanje mojih povlačenja je dovoljan dokaz za vas
I understand that in real world- quality matters rather quantity
I expected effective communication and action and also address questions asked
it’s about professionalism
it’s not good that I’m being abused by a casino mangros and feel the same continuum from casino guru.
out of all the complaints that I made I can’t recall a definitive action with these casinos. My money has been on hold for almost a month the pokiez surely- I think they is a justification taking
cancellation of my withdrawals is evidence enough for you
Dragi matonga,
Od sada ću se pobrinuti za vašu žalbu. Pregledao sam vaš slučaj i u potpunosti razumem vašu frustraciju zbog dobijanja isplata. Da li ste zatražili novi zahtev za povlačenje nakon što su prethodni otkazani?
Takođe bih želeo da pozovem predstavnika Pokiez kazina da se pridruži razgovoru i pomogne u rešavanju ove žalbe.
Dear matonga,
I will be taking care of your complaint from now on. I've reviewed your case and fully understand your frustration about getting the payouts. Have you requested a new withdrawal request after the previous ones were canceled?
I’d also like to invite a representative of Pokiez Casino to join the conversation and aid in the resolution of this complaint.
ispod je poslednji mejl koji sam im danas poslao
sada je prošlo više od 24 sata sa njihovom komunikacijom
Dana 23. februara 2023. u 13:59, Podrška < support@pokiez.com > napisao:
Ne verujem u kontekst ove e-pošte. Ne vidim značaj. To razotkriva vašu glupu i neobrazovanu taktiku. Ne vidim zdrav razum – mogli ste da otkažete moja povlačenja bez moje dozvole i tražite od mene da zatražim povlačenje u ukupnom iznosu. Ovo je krajnje neodgovorno, neprihvatljivo, profesionalno. Kako spavate noću je zamoljeno da namerno još uvek od pravog kupca koji je imao sreće da pobedi pod Božjom groznicom a sada želite da kradete izazivajući frustracije, nepotrebna odlaganja. Koliko vam je potrebno da obradite moja povlačenja - manje od 5 sekundi. Ne morate ništa da radite - kompjuter može da uradi bolji posao - dobar posao koji ste uradili za pokiez je da ste nezakonito otkazali moju stvarnu pobedu.
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Bright E. (_)
23. februar 2023., 3:59 UTC
zdravo Abrahame,
Imajte na umu da su vaša povlačenja vraćena na stanje vašeg kazino naloga, stoga vas molimo da podnesete novi zahtev za povlačenje.
Molimo Vas da kombinujete svoja povlačenja u što manje zahteva do maksimalno dozvoljenog iznosa po transakciji.
Izvinjavamo se zbog neprijatnosti i ako imate bilo kakvih pitanja, ne oklevajte da nas kontaktirate.
Primenjuje se standardno vreme obrade povlačenja.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Paiments Team
[V8M5OE-DV9KI]
below is the last email I send them today
it’s now over 24 hours with now communication from them
On 23 Feb 2023, at 13:59, Support <support@pokiez.com> wrote:
I don’t believe the context of this email. I don’t see the significance of. It exposes your silly and un educated tactics. I don’t see common sense- you were able to cancel my withdrawals without my permission and you are asking me request a withdrawal with at total amount. This is grossly irresponsible, unacceptable, professional. How do you sleep at night been asked to purposefully still from genuine customer who was lucky winning under Gods fever and now you want to steal by causing frustration, unnecessary delays. How long does it take you to process my withdrawals- less than 5 seconds. You don’t need to do anything- the computer can do a better job- the good job you did for pokiez is to illegally cancel my genuine win.
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Bright E. (_)
Feb 23, 2023, 3:59 AM UTC
Hello Abraham,
Kindly note that your withdrawals were placed back to your casino account balance, therefore, we ask you to submit a new withdrawal request.
Kindly combine your withdrawals into as few requests as possible up to the allowed maximum amount per transaction.
We apologize for the inconvenience and should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Standard withdrawal processing time applies.
Best regards,
Payments Team
[W8M5OE-DW9QY]
Pošto su poništili vaše zahteve za povlačenje, verujem da morate da tražite novi, kako bi mogli da ga obrade. Nisam siguran da mogu sami da ponište otkazivanje.
Since they've canceled your withdrawal requests, I believe you have to ask for a new one, so that they could process it. I am not sure they can reverse the cancellation themselves.
Pošto su mi juče poništili isplate
odmah je sledio njihova uputstva i ponovo obradio još 2700 dolara
to je otprilike pre 25 sati
poenta argumenta je da – da li im je to dozvoljeno.
ovo izdanje je počelo 2. februara
Since they canceled my withdrawals yesterday
immediately followed their instructions and reprocessed another $2700
that’s Approximate 25 hours ago
the point argument is that - are they allowed to do that.
this issue started 2 February
Ovi momci su pametni, ali ne više. Cilj je da se potrošači frustriraju tako što će napraviti neophodna odlaganja dok klijenti ne naprave greške klađenja na povlačenje novca i izgube
Bio sam žrtva toga mnogo puta
This guys are clever but not any more. The aim is to frustrate consumers by making necessary delays until customers make the mistakes of betting on withdrawals reverse and lose
I was a victim of that many times
Prema odredbama i uslovima Pokie kazina:
4.23 Osim ako nije drugačije navedeno, minimalni iznos za povlačenje je 200 USD. Ne postoji ograničenje koliko igrač može da povuče, ali postoji unapred određeno ograničenje postavljeno za svaku transakciju koje ne bi trebalo da prelazi 5.000 dolara. Iznosi do maksimalno 10.000 USD će se obrađivati svakih 10 radnih dana.
4.27 Vaše povlačenje može biti predmet interne revizije u bilo kom trenutku. Ovo se radi kako bi se zaštitili i igrači i Kazino od lažnog ponašanja. Tokom revizije koja može da potraje do 7 radnih dana za iznose koji su jednaki ili veći od 5.000 USD, zapisi o transakcijama, igranje i evidencije će biti pažljivo provereni u vezi sa vašim povlačenjem. Vaše povlačenje i sva bonus sredstva mogu biti odbijeni ako se utvrdi da ste uključeni u nezakonite aktivnosti, dosluhu sa drugim igračima ili bilo koju drugu vrstu zlonamernog ponašanja usmerenog na prevaru ili prevaru Kazina.
Dakle, tehnički, obrada povlačenja može potrajati dosta vremena, ali je u skladu sa Uslovima i odredbama kazina. Ali razumem koliko to mora da bude frustrirajuće za igrače.
According to the Terms and Conditions of Pokie Casino:
4.23 Unless specified otherwise, the minimum withdrawal amount is $200. There is no limit for how much a player can withdraw, but there is a predetermined limit set in place to every transaction which should not exceed $5,000. Amounts up to a maximum of $10,000 will be processed every 10 business days.
4.27 Your withdrawal might be the subject of an internal audit at any given point. This is done in order to protect both the players as well as the Casino from fraudulent behavior. During the course of the audit which can take up to 7 business days for amounts equal to or exceeding $5,000, transaction records, gameplay and logs will be carefully vetted in relation to your withdrawal. Your withdrawal and all bonus funds can be rejected if you are found engaging in unlawful activities, collusion with other players or any other type of malicious behavior aimed at defrauding or cheating the Casino.
So technically, the processing of the withdrawals may take quite a long time, but it is in accordance with the casino's Terms and Conditions. I understand how frustrating that must be for the players, though.
5. februar do sada 2700 dolara je pod sabotažom - danas je 24. februar
200 i 450 dolara bilo je deo od 2700 dolara
ovo je bilo jedino povlačenje ispod 5000 dolara
šta je obrazloženje za ovo
5th of February until now $2700 is under sabotage - today is the 24 February
$200 and $450 was part of $2700
this was the only withdrawal under$5000
what is the rationale on this
Bright E je otkazao moja 3 povlačenja
da li je bilo potrebno? S obzirom da sam se žalio na kašnjenja
kojim zakonom je to opravdao kada je moj nalog verifikovan pre 3 nedelje.
i bio sam ispod praga od 5000 dolara
Bright E canceled my 3 withdrawals
was it necessary? Given I have complained about delays
what law did he use to justify that when my account was verified 3 weeks ago.
and I was under $5000 threshold
Slažem se sa vama u vezi ovoga, ovo je nešto što bi predstavnik kazina trebao biti u stanju da objasni. I znam da ste bili više nego dovoljno strpljivi, ali imajte na umu da bi novi proces povlačenja 2700 dolara mogao da potraje još nekoliko dana.
I'm with you on this, this is something the casino representative should be able to explain. And I know you've been patient more than enough, but please bear in mind that the new process of withdrawing $2700 could take several more days.
moja banka je obično dobra
ako se to potvrdi
Stižem za manje od 12 sati
moj argument je ono što oni još proveravaju mesec dana
da sam prekršio odredbe i uslove - kontaktirali bi me za manje od 2 dana.
moja pobeda je bila veoma iskrena - bez stresa
bila je to srećna pobeda
u početku je to bila pobeda od 1800 dolara u januaru 2023. i bila je odložena, preokrenuo sam je i igrao ponovo - došao do blizu 3400 dolara za manje od 20 minuta - odlučio sam da dobijem povlačenje od 2700 dolara
frustrirani su jer je depozit od 100 dolara
pre toga je bio depozit od 40 dolara bez bonusa za 10 minuta, pogodio sam 12000 dolara na opkladu od 3 dolara pre godinu dana
nisu se oporavili od toga.
ponovo su sabotirali moju pobedu
my bank is usually good
if it gets confirmed
I get in less than 12 hours
my argument is what they still checking for a month
if I had breached terms and conditions- I would have been contacted in less than 2 days.
my win was very genuine- no stress
it was a lucky win
initially it was a win $1800 January 2023 and it was delayed, I reversed it and played again- came up with close to $3400 in less than 20 minutes - I decided to get a $2700 withdrawal
they are frustrated because- it was $100 deposit
before that it was $40 deposit with no bonus in 10 minutes I hit $12000 on a $3 bet a year ago
they haven’t recovered from that.
they sabotaged my win again
Već neko vreme igrate u ovom kazinu. Da li ste do sada primili sve svoje dobitke (osim ovog poslednjeg, naravno)? Ako jeste, postoji velika šansa da će vam kazino platiti i ovaj put, iako to traje veoma dugo i stavlja vas pod veliki pritisak. Znam da je teško i dovodi vas u pitanje profesionalizam menadžmenta kazina, ali budimo strpljivi još malo.
You've been playing in this casino for quite some time. Have you received all your winnings so far (except for this last one, of course)? If so, there is a good chance the casino will pay you this time as well, although it takes a very long time and it puts you under a lot of pressure. I know it's hard and it makes you question the professionalism of the casino management, but let's be patient for a bit longer.
Znam da proces povlačenja dugo traje – zašto su otkazali moja povlačenja – šta je bilo teško u potvrđivanju mojih povlačenja
E-pošta od Bright E nije u skladu sa odredbama i uslovima - zašto stalno postajem žrtve neke vrste zlostavljanja - da li će iko biti kažnjen za greške
U prilogu je podsetnik o otkazivanju povlačenja
koji sam morao da čekam 6 dana
kao što znate tamo dnevni red ne pokazuje ljubaznost
korisnička usluga je veoma loša
oni više nemaju opciju ćaskanja
potrebu da zatvore vidik ako nemaju novca
I know the withdrawals process takes a long time- why did they cancel my withdrawals- what was difficult in confirming my withdrawals
The email from Bright E is not inline with an terms and conditions- why do I constantly become victims of kind of abuse- will anyone punished for the glitches
Attached the reminder of withdrawal cancellation
which I had to wait for 6 days
as you know there agenda doesn’t show kindness
the customer service is very poor
they don’t have the chat option anymore
the need to shut the sight if they don’t have money
Mislio sam da će se pridružiti ovom razgovoru
meni ta poruka ništa nije značila - tako govore od 5. februara
zašto mora biti teško isplata preko dospelog povlačenja
I thought they were going to join this conversation
to me that message meant nothing- that’s what they have saying since the 5 February
why does it have to be difficult to payout over due withdrawal
Ne vidim dokaze o spremnosti da me poštujete kao kupca.
Učinite ovo Kazino će biti kažnjen zbog grubog nemara
Njihovo kašnjenje sa mojim novcem pokazuje veliku obmanju i pogrešnu prodaju
Ne bi im trebalo dozvoliti da se oglašavaju ni na jednoj platformi
Njihovi uslovi i odredbe su lažni
Trebalo bi da plati sav novac koji je ukrao korišćenjem mantre o uslovima
Zašto moram da patim zbog ovog lošeg tretmana
kao ljudsko biće morate da proslavite svoje pobede
Nemam šta da slavim jer sam toliko puta imao neprijatnosti
možete videti na priloženom ekranu za štampanje
I don’t see evidence of willingness to respect me as customer.
Do this Casino gets punished for gross negligence
Their delays on my money shows gross misleading and mis selling
They shouldn’t be allowed to advertise on any platform
Their terms and conditions are fake
The should pay all the money that stole from using terms and conditions mantra
Why I have to suffer due to this ill treatment
as human being you need to celebrate your winnings
I have nothing to celebrate because I was inconvenienced so many times
can you see on the attached print screen
Već neko vreme nisam dobio nikakav odgovor od vas
ne izgleda da ću nešto dobiti od mafije
činjenica da ne razumeju koliko mi je važno da primim uplatu
moja isplata nema nikakve veze sa internom revizijom
ovaj proces bi bio obavljen pre nekoliko nedelja
zašto ne dolaze na peron
I haven’t received any response from you in a while
it doesn’t look like I’m going to get anything from the mob
the fact they are not understanding how important it is for me to receive my payment
my payment is nothing to do with internal audit
this process would have been done several weeks ago
why they not coming to the platform
Dragi matonga,
Žao mi je što morate da čekate tako dugo na svoje dobitke. Ne mogu naterati kazino da se pridruži platformi i odgovori na vašu žalbu ovde. Moraju biti voljni da sami komuniciraju. Predstavnici kazina još uvek imaju vremena da odgovore na ovu žalbu i uđu u našu diskusiju. Razumem tvoju frustraciju.
Dear matonga,
I'm sorry you have to wait so long for your winnings. I can't force the casino to join the platform and reply to your complaint here. They have to be willing to communicate themselves. The casino representatives still have time to respond to this complaint and enter our discussion. I understand your frustration.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Dragi matonga,
Drago mi je da čujem da je vaš problem uspešno rešen. Sada ću žalbu označiti kao „rešenu" u našem sistemu.
Takođe bih vam preporučio da ponovo razmislite o igranju u ovom kazinu jer ste imali nekoliko pritužbi na njihovu dugotrajnu politiku povlačenja i probleme u komunikaciji. Ako ste zainteresovani, evo liste kazina koje smatramo najboljima: https: //casino.guru/top-online-casinos#tab=RECOMMENDED
Hvala vam na saradnji i ne ustručavajte se da kontaktirate naš centar za rešavanje žalbi ako u budućnosti naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom. Tu smo da pomognemo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Veronika
Casino.Guru
Dear matonga,
I'm glad to hear that your issue has been resolved successfully. I will now mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system.
I would also recommend you reconsider playing in this casino since you've had several complaints about their lengthy withdrawal policy and communication issues. If you are interested, here is a list of casinos that we consider best: https://casino.guru/top-online-casinos#tab=RECOMMENDED
Thank you for your cooperation, and please do not hesitate to contact our Complaint Resolution Center if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future. We are here to help.
Best regards,
Veronika
Casino.Guru
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