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Goated Casino - Igrač prijavljuje neispravnu igru koja uzrokuje finansijske gubitke.
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The player from New Zealand reported issues with the stop loss feature in a dice game, which caused errors and failed to function correctly. Despite providing evidence and demonstrating the problems, the casino offered him only $1,400 as compensation, and the issue remained unresolved. After further investigation, the casino confirmed that the stop-loss function was operating correctly and could not issue a refund. However, the casino's tech team notified him of changes made to the system, leading the player to express satisfaction with the resolution. The complaint was marked as resolved by the Complaints Team.
Igrač sa Novog Zelanda prijavio je probleme sa funkcijom zaustavljanja gubitka u igri kockica, što je izazvalo greške i nije ispravno funkcionisalo. Uprkos pružanju dokaza i demonstraciji problema, kazino mu je ponudio samo 1.400 dolara kao kompenzaciju, a problem je ostao nerešen. Nakon dalje istrage, kazino je potvrdio da je funkcija stop-loss ispravno funkcionisala i da ne može da izvrši povraćaj novca. Međutim, tehnički tim kazina ga je obavestio o promenama u sistemu, što je navelo igrača da izrazi zadovoljstvo rešenjem. Žalba je ocenjena kao rešena od strane Žalbenog tima.
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Prokockao sam preko 200 miliona USD na kockice i veoma sam upoznat sa tim.
U decembru i januaru sam bio dosta na kockicama na kozama. Nisam želeo da ga izgubim, pa sam stavio stop loss.
Ispostavilo se da njihovo kodiranje znači da zaustavni gubici uzrokuju sve vrste grešaka - može ignorisati protokole, ignorisati stop gubitke, zaustaviti prerano itd.
Dokazao sam da to nije tačno i ponudili su mi oskudnih 1400 dolara. Problem još uvek nije rešen, tako da bi ljudi mogli da izgube zbog svoje pogrešne igre.
Imam DOSTA dokaza.
I have gambled over 200m USD on dice and am very familiar with it.
In december and january i was up a lot on dice on goated. I didn't want to lose it, so i put a stop loss in place.
It turns out that their coding means that stop losses cause all types of errors - it can ignore protocols, ignore stop losses, stop too early etc.
I proved it was incorrect and they offered me a measly 1400$. The issue is still not fixed so people could be losing due to their faulty game.
I have PLENTY of proof.
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Zdravo ajs686,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu i zaista mi je žao što čujem za vaš problem sa Goated Casino-om. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim još nekoliko pitanja pre nego što krenemo dalje.
Možete li da nam kažete da li je vaš nalog već verifikovan i ako jeste, od kada tačno?
Da li ste prijavili ovaj problem kazinu?
Kada ste poslednji put razgovarali sa kazinom i o čemu se radilo?
Imajte na umu da ako ste bili svesni problema i još uvek nastavite da ga koristite, kazino nije odgovoran za bilo kakav gubitak. Takođe možete to proveriti u okviru njihovih uslova:
Radujem se vašem odgovoru.
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Nick
Hello ajs686,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint and I'm really sorry to hear about your issue with Goated Casino. Please allow me to ask you a few more question before we would move forward.
Could you please advise if your account is already verified and if yes, since when exactly?
Did you report this issue to the casino?
When was the last time you spoke to the casino and what was it about?
Please note that if you were aware of the issue and still continue to use it, the casino is not responsible for any kind of loss. You can also check it within their terms:
Looking forward to your answer.
Regards,
Nick
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Hej Nik,
Prijavio sam ga kada sam shvatio da postoji, pa čak i da ga pogledam i delim ekran da bih to popravio,
Igrao sam dan ili dva kasnije pošto sam imao utisak da je popravljeno - postojala je mala jezička barijera za jednog, a drugo, nisam mislio da će renomirani kazino imati pogrešnu igru u svojim redovima.
Sada razgovaram sa jednim od tehničara - on je zahvalan na mojoj pomoći i pokušava da ubedi svoje pretpostavljene da mi daju novac.
Hey Nick,
I did report it when I realised it existed and even facetimed and screenshared to help fix it,
I did play a day or two later as I was under the impression it was fixed - there was a slight language barrier for one, and secondly i didnt think a reputable casino would have a faulty game in its ranks.
I am speaking with one of the techs now - he is grateful for my help and is trying to convince his superiors to give me money.
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Predstavnik sada tvrdi da pošto sam ja ovde objavio neće biti kompenzacije! da, imam snimke ekrana
Representative is now claiming that since I posted here there will be no compensation! yes i have screenshots
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Sada je onemogućio moj nalog za objavljivanje ovde uprkos ogromnom mesečnom bonusu koji dugujem.
It’s now disabled my account for posting here despite a huge monthly bonus owing.
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Zdravo ajs686,
Možete li, molim vas, proslediti te snimke ekrana na nikolas.b@casino.guru za pregled?
Čekam vaš odgovor.
pozdrav,
Nick
Hello ajs686,
Can you please forward those screenshots to nikolas.b@casino.guru for review?
Awaiting your response.
Regards,
Nick
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Korisnik sa imejlom „andrevsi****@gmail.com" prijavio je zabrinutost zbog funkcionalnosti naših kockica nakon što je doživeo gubitke na našoj platformi. Obezbedio je niz nestrukturiranih video snimaka, koje smo detaljno pregledali. Nakon istrage, otkrili smo da je naša funkcija zaustavljanja gubitka implementirana malo drugačije od drugih kazina kao što je Stake. Konkretno, naš stop gubitak se pokreće kada korisnikov gubitak pređe navedeno ograničenje, dok se implementacija Stake-a pokreće pre nego što se prekorači granica (pogledajte priloženi snimak ekrana).
Iako verujemo da je naš pristup razuman i da nije inherentno štetan za igrača (pošto ne utiče na RTP i može isto tako lako da ide u korist igrača), priznajemo da je Stakeov metod češći u industriji. Kao rezultat toga, planiramo da uskladimo našu implementaciju sa njihovim pristupom u budućnosti.
Uprkos zaključku da naša implementacija stop-loss nije direktno prouzrokovala gubitke korisnika, cenili smo korisnika i pristali smo da mu nadoknadimo bonus od 1.400 dolara — iznos koji je on tražio i koji smo odobrili (snimak ekrana u prilogu).
Dva dana kasnije, korisnik se vratio, tvrdeći da je izgubio dodatnih 1.000 dolara i zahtevajući puni povraćaj novca. Objasnili smo da je to razlika u primeni koje je on već bio svestan i podsetili ga da smo već obezbedili bonus po njegovom zahtevu. Kada je nastavio da eskalira problem, dali smo dodatni kredit dobre volje od 100 USD. Međutim, tada je zapretio da će to pitanje izneti u javnost i stvoriti „masovni loš PR" ukoliko mu ne nadoknadimo ceo gubitak.
Uprkos njegovim pretnjama, ostali smo pri svom stavu, tvrdeći da smo postupili pošteno i da smo već uradili sve više da rešimo njegovu zabrinutost.
The user with the email "andrewsi****@gmail.com" reported concerns about our dice functionality after experiencing losses on our platform. He provided a series of unstructured videos, which we reviewed extensively. Upon investigation, we discovered that our stop-loss feature is implemented slightly differently from other casinos like Stake. Specifically, our stop loss triggers when the user’s loss exceeds the specified limit, whereas Stake’s implementation triggers before the limit is exceeded (see attached screenshot).
While we believe our approach to be reasonable and not inherently disadvantageous to the player (as it does not affect RTP and could just as easily work in the player’s favor), we acknowledge that Stake’s method is more common in the industry. As a result, we plan to align our implementation with their approach in the future.
Despite concluding that our stop-loss implementation did not directly cause the user’s losses, we valued the user and agreed to compensate him with a $1,400 bonus—an amount he requested and we approved (screenshot attached).
Two days later, the user returned, claiming to have lost an additional $1,000 and demanding a full refund. We explained that this was an implementation difference that he was already aware of and reminded him that we had already provided a bonus per his request. When he continued to escalate the issue, we extended an additional goodwill credit of $100. However, he then threatened to take the issue public and create "mass bad PR" unless we refunded his entire loss.
Despite his threats, we stood by our position, maintaining that we had acted fairly and had already gone above and beyond to address his concerns.
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ovo će biti lakše preko telegrama, ali samo kao primer - stop gubitak se aktivira kada se spreči napredno podešavanje gubitka povećavajući ulog 70%
Ovom odgovoru iz kazina nedostaju dokazi.
Prvo, stop gubitak ne bi trebalo da spreči ostale napredne taktike kockica da ostanu aktivne. Drugo, zaustavljanja su bila praktično proizvoljna - imam bezbroj ubedljivih video snimaka koji to pokazuju. Nisam siguran kako mogu da ponude 1400$ kompenzacije, ali sada negiraju krivicu.
Imao sam utisak da su rešili svoje probleme, pa sam zato ponovo probao program.
this will be easier over telegram but just as an example - stop loss triggered once prevented advanced setting of loss increasing bet 70%
This reply from the casino lacks evidence.
Firstly, a stop loss shouldn't stop other advanced dice tactics from remaining active. Secondly, the stops were virtually arbitrary - i have countless conclusive videos showing this. I'm not sure how they can offer 1400$ compensation but now deny blame.
I was under the impression they had fixed their issues, hence why I tried the program again.
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Mogu li da pokažem mnoštvo video snimaka ovoga putem telegrama?
Can I please show the mtyriad videos of this via telegram?
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Zdravo ajs686,
Ako imate dodatne dokaze, prosledite ih na nikolas.b@casino.guru pošto ne koristimo Telegram.
pozdrav,
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Hello ajs686,
If you have any additional evidence, please forward it to nikolas.b@casino.guru as we do not use Telegram.
Regards,
Nick
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Odgovoreno putem e-pošte na zahtev
Replied via email as requested
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Poštovani ajs686,
Hvala vam što ste se obratili i pružili video snimke i dokaze za naš pregled.
Nakon pažljivog analiziranja materijala koje ste podelili, potvrdili smo da funkcija ograničenja gubitka radi ispravno. Funkcija automatskog klađenja se stalno zaustavlja u odgovarajućem trenutku kada se dostigne ograničenje gubitka koje ste postavili. Kada se ponovo pokrene, automatska opklada počinje ponovo od nultog gubitka i ponovo se zaustavlja kada se dostigne naznačeni limit gubitka.
Pošto sistem funkcioniše kako je predviđeno, sa žaljenjem vas obaveštavamo da kazino nije u mogućnosti da izvrši povraćaj sredstava.
Obavestite nas ako još nešto možemo da vam pomognemo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Dear ajs686,
Thank you for reaching out and providing the videos and evidence for our review.
After carefully analyzing the materials you shared, we have confirmed that the loss limit function is operating correctly. The auto-bet feature consistently stops at the appropriate time when the loss limit you set is reached. When restarted, the auto-bet begins again from zero loss and stops once more upon reaching the designated loss limit.
As the system is functioning as intended, we regret to inform you that the casino is unable to issue a refund.
Please let us know if there is anything else we can assist you with.
Best regards,
Nick
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Zdravo Nik,
Hvala vam što ste obavili ovaj pregled. Bili bismo veoma zahvalni da se ova tema sada zatvori.
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Hi Nick,
Thank you for conducting this review. We would greatly appreciate it if this thread could be closed now.
Best,
Goated
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Kazino je promenio svoj metod, a njihov tehnički tim se lično obratio meni da obavesti o promenama.
Mislim da su obavili dobar posao u rešavanju žalbe - i imaju jednog posebno dobrog tehničara koji je neverovatno reagovao i uradio odličan posao.
ako je moguće, rado bih povukao ovu žalbu.
Casino has altered their method, and their tech team has personally reached out to me to notify of the changes.
i think they’ve done a good job handling the complaint - and they have one particularly good tech guy who has been incredibly responsive and done a great job.
if it’s possible, I’d be happy to withdraw this complaint.
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Poštovani ajs686,
Drago nam je da čujemo da je vaš problem rešen. Označićemo žalbu kao „rešenu" u našem sistemu. Cenimo vašu saradnju i potvrdu. Ako ikada naiđete na probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti, slobodno se obratite našem Centru za rešavanje žalbi. Tu smo da pomognemo.
Kao što znate, mi ne naplaćujemo naše usluge, niti primamo napojnice. Međutim, bili bismo vam veoma zahvalni ako biste izdvojili trenutak da podelite svoje iskustvo sa našim uslugama na Trustpilot https://vvv.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru . Iskren pregled, zajedno sa svim predlozima za poboljšanje, bio bi od neprocenjive vrednosti. Vaše povratne informacije mogu pomoći drugima koji možda razmišljaju da nas kontaktiraju za pomoć u vezi sa problemima vezanim za onlajn kazino.
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Dear ajs686,
We're glad to hear that your issue has been resolved. We'll go ahead and mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. We appreciate your cooperation and confirmation. If you ever encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future, please feel free to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Center. We're here to help.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru. An honest review, along with any suggestions for improvement, would be invaluable. Your feedback could help others who may be considering contacting us for assistance with online casino-related issues.
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