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Razgovor 1:
Deku: Zdravo! Moje ime je Deku, molim vas dajte mi trenutak da to proverim za vas.
Deku: Vidim da su sredstva konfiskovana zbog kršenja uslova bonusa. Tim je proverio i otkrio opklade preko 5 EUR/USD koristeći bonus sredstva. Ručno povlačenje je način na koji se pojavljuje kada su sredstva zaplenjena na ovaj način. Mogu li vam trenutno pomoći oko nečega drugog?
Korisnik: Da, objasnite šta je to kršenje, jer sam pročitao uslove bonusa.
Deku: Upravo sam pomenuo šta je kršenje, to bi bilo klađenje sa bonus sredstvima preko 5 EUR.
Korisnik: Nigde nije propisano da će moj dobitak biti zaplenjen. Termin pominje ograničenje od 5 evra, ništa drugo. Ako je ovako, nemoguće je da igram više. Nema opravdanja u smislu da će moj dobitak biti poništen.
Deku: Ovo možete da proverite u opštim uslovima i odredbama gde se pominje da će kršenje uslova koji se primenjuju na bilo koji od bonusa dovesti do toga da se oni ne mogu povući. To je tačka 9.1.
Korisnik: Savršeno razumem uslove.
Deku: Dobro, lepo, u tom slučaju tačno znaš na šta mislim. Kao takav, postoji li još nešto u čemu bih vam mogao pomoći?
Korisnik: Da molim vas prebacite me na menadžera.
Deku: Dobro, zašto biste želeli da razgovarate sa menadžerom?
Korisnik: Da molim vas prebacite me na menadžera.
Deku: Još jednom, zašto biste želeli da razgovarate sa menadžerom?
Korisnik: Zbog nedostatka informacija o klađenju. Ne postoji jasna izjava koja ukazuje da bi prekoračenje ovog ograničenja dovelo do poništavanja dobitaka ili bonusa.
Deku: Dao sam sve potrebne informacije o tome zašto je prekršen i gde se tačno pominje da ne možete povući sredstva iz založenog bonusa ako se prekrše primenjivi uslovi.
Korisnik: Ali nisam ništa prekršio.
Deku: Da imate, to je klađenje preko 5 EUR sa bonus sredstvima.
Korisnik: Nigde se ne pominje u uslovima i odredbama ili uslovima bonusa.
Deku: Već sam vam rekao koja tačka se pominje u opštim uslovima.
Korisnik: Uslovi pominju maksimalnu opkladu od 5 € kada koristite bonus sredstva. To je tačka 4.
Deku: Da i u opštim uslovima je navedeno da će kršenje bilo kojeg od uslova bonusa dovesti do toga da nećete moći da povučete sredstva dobijena od bonusa. Sada, pošto je to razjašnjeno, mogu li još nešto da učinim za vas?
Korisnik: Nije razjašnjeno. Ono što se pominje u terminima nema smisla.
Deku: Termini su vrlo opisni i konkretni. Objašnjava se od reči do reči u opštim crtama.
Korisnik: Nedostatak jasne kaznene klauzule za prekoračenje maksimalnog limita opklade.
Deku: Nisam siguran na šta mislite jer je to jasno navedeno u Opštim uslovima i odredbama ovde: https://vvv.incognitocasino.io/en/terms
Korisnik: Nije fer konfiskovati bilo koji dobitak.
Deku: Da citiram direktno opšte uslove: „Nećete imati pravo da povučete bilo kakve iznose bonusa i ne možete da povučete bilo koji dobitak dobijen putem Bonusa bez prethodnog poštovanja bilo kojih primenjivih uslova uključujući, bez ograničenja, kvalifikacione kriterijume i/ili ' „zahtevi i ograničenja igranja".
Korisnik: Transparentnost je šala.
Deku: Izvinite što to nisam mogao da shvatim, možete li da pojasnite?
Korisnik: Incognitocasino.io kaže da su potpuno transparentni sa uslovima, ali ih ne pominju.
Deku: Kao što sam već nekoliko puta pomenuo ovo je u terminima.
Korisnik: Upravo tako, pomenuto je da je bonus ograničen na 5 EUR.
Deku: Pošto ne mogu ništa drugo da vam pomognem, sada ću prekinuti ovo ćaskanje. Ako budete imali bilo kakvih pitanja u budućnosti, ne oklevajte da nas kontaktirate. prijatan dan.
Ćaskanje je završeno.
Razgovor 2:
Zdravo, pratim konfiskaciju mog dobitka (ID transakcije: e56ad0ee-73d6-46ee-8e1e-5e8d6049e416). Verujem da uslovi u vezi sa ograničenjem opklade od 5 evra nemaju jasnoću u vezi sa kaznama, i želeo bih da eskaliram ovo pitanje menadžeru ili timu za žalbe na dalji pregled.
Jane: Zdravo i dobrodošli u naš Live Chat! Moje ime je Jane, zadovoljstvo mi je.
Korisnik: Zdravo Džejn.
Džejn: Zdravo, daj da pogledam ovo za tebe.
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Džejn: Pošto nemam šta drugo da ti pomognem, sada ću zatvoriti ćaskanje. ugodan dan!
Ćaskanje je završeno.
All that I have:
Conversation 1:
Deku: Hello! My name is Deku, please give me a moment to check that for you.
Deku: I can see that the funds were confiscated due to a breach in the bonus terms and conditions. The Team has checked and has detected bets over 5 EUR/USD using bonus funds. The manual withdrawal is how it shows up when funds are confiscated in this manner. Can I assist you with anything else at the moment?
User: Yes, please explain what breach, because I read the terms of bonus.
Deku: I have just mentioned what breach, that would be betting with bonus funds over 5 EUR.
User: There is nowhere stipulated that my winnings will be confiscated. The term mentions a 5 EUR limit, nothing else. If it is like this it's impossible for me to play more. There is no justification in terms that say my winnings will be voided.
Deku: You may check this in the general terms and conditions where it is mentioned that breaching any terms applicable to any of the bonuses will lead to them being non-withdrawable. That being point 9.1.
User: I understand perfectly the terms.
Deku: Okay lovely, in that case you know exactly what I mean. As such, is there anything else I can help you with?
User: Yes please transfer me to a manager.
Deku: Right, why would you like to speak with a manager?
User: Yes please transfer me to a manager.
Deku: Once again, why would you like to speak with a manager?
User: For the lack of information regarding betting. There is no clear statement indicating that exceeding this limit would lead to the cancellation of winnings or bonuses.
Deku: I have provided all of the needed information as to why it was breached and exactly where it is mentioned that you may not withdraw funds from a wagered bonus if the applicable terms are breached.
User: But I didn't breach anything.
Deku: Yes you have, that being betting over 5 EUR with bonus funds.
User: It is not mentioned anywhere in the terms and conditions or bonus terms.
Deku: I have already told you which point it is mentioned in the general terms and conditions.
User: The terms mention a maximum bet of €5 when using bonus funds. It is point 4.
Deku: Yes and in the general terms it is stated that breaching any of the bonus terms will lead to you being unable to withdraw the funds gained from the bonus. Now, seeing as that has been clarified, is there anything else I can do for you?
User: It is not clarified. What is mentioned in terms makes no sense.
Deku: The terms are very descriptive and to the point. It is explained word for word in the general terms.
User: The absence of a clear penalty clause for exceeding the maximum bet limit.
Deku: I am not sure what you are referring to as this is clearly outlined in the General Terms and conditions here: https://www.incognitocasino.io/en/terms
User: It is not fair to confiscate any winning.
Deku: To quote directly from the general terms: "You will not be entitled to withdraw any Bonus amounts and you may not withdraw any winnings obtained via a Bonus without first complying with any applicable terms including, without limitation, qualifying criteria and/or 'play-through' requirements and restrictions."
User: Transparency is a joke.
Deku: Sorry I couldn't quite catch that, can you clarify?
User: Incognitocasino.io says that they are fully transparent with the terms but not mentioning.
Deku: As I've already mentioned a few times this is in the terms.
User: Exactly my point, it is mentioned that bonus is restricted to 5 EUR.
Deku: Seeing as there is nothing else I can help you with, I will be ending this chat now. If you have any questions in the future, do not hesitate to contact us. Have a lovely day.
Chat ended.
Conversation 2:
Hello, I am following up regarding the confiscation of my winnings (Transaction ID: e56ad0ee-73d6-46ee-8e1e-5e8d6049e416). I believe the terms regarding the €5 bet limit lack clarity on penalties, and I would like to escalate this matter to a manager or complaints team for further review.
Jane: Hello and welcome to our Live Chat! My name is Jane, it’s a pleasure.
User: Hi Jane.
Jane: Hi hi, let me have a look into this for you.
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Jane: Seeing as there is nothing else I can help you with, I will be closing the chat now. Have a nice day!
Chat ended.
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