Zdravo Lucija,
Hvala vam na prilici da odgovorim.
Nakon što sam pregledao odgovor operatera, i dalje osporavam njihovu verziju događaja i s poštovanjem molim da se razjasni niz važnih neslaganja.
Prvo, operater navodi da su moja tri isplate otkazane i da je 1.200 evra vraćeno na moj saldo u 08:50 UTC. Međutim, snimak ekrana koji su dostavili izgleda povezuje povećanje salda sa unosima u igru približno u 08:30 UTC, a ne u 08:50 UTC. Ovo deluje neskladno sa pisanim vremenskim okvirom koji su dostavili. Stoga molim operatera da dostavi kompletnu revizijsku evidenciju koja pokazuje tačno vreme otkazivanja svake isplate i tačnu vremensku oznaku vraćenog iznosa od 1.200 evra.
Takođe napominjem da se ovo razlikuje od objašnjenja koje mi je prethodno dala podrška, gde mi je rečeno da su sredstva vraćena dok sam igrao Mythology Zeus. Objašnjenje koje je sada predstavljeno Casino Guru-u umesto toga sugeriše da sam prestao da igram, isplate su otkazane i da sam kasnije nastavio sa igrom. Molim operatera da pojasni tačan redosled događaja i da dostavi dokumentaciju koja to potvrđuje.
Još važnije, operater još uvek nije objasnio ko je otkazao isplate. Ja ih sigurno nisam otkazao. Ako ih je operater otkazao, molim da objasne ko je odobrio ta otkazivanja, zašto su otkazana, pod kojim uslovima ili politikom su otkazana i kako sam obavešten da se to dogodilo.
Vremenski okvir operatera je takođe teško uskladiti sa komunikacijama koje sam dobio od njihovog KYC tima.
Dobio/la sam imejl u kojem se navodi da je moje povlačenje obustavljeno dok se ne završi KYC verifikacija. Zatim sam završio/la traženu verifikaciju i naknadno je zatraženo da potvrdim svoj račun za povlačenje. Te komunikacije su mi jasno ukazivale da je proces povlačenja još uvek u toku.
Ako su, kako operater sada navodi, isplate već bile otkazane i sredstva vraćena na moj saldo pre tih obaveštenja, s poštovanjem molim operatera da objasni:
Zašto sam obavešten/a da je moje povlačenje obustavljeno dok se čeka verifikacija?
Zašto je od mene naknadno zatraženo da potvrdim svoj račun za isplatu ako više nije bilo isplate na čekanju?
Zašto me operater nikada nije obavestio da su moje isplate već otkazane i vraćene?
Nakon KYC procesa, nisam dobio potvrdu da je moj nalog uspešno verifikovan ili da su moje isplate otkazane. Jednostavno sam obavešten da nisu potrebni dodatni dokumenti. Ni u jednom trenutku nije jasno saopšten pravi status mojih isplata.
Takođe bih želeo da istaknem da, nakon što je primenjeno ograničenje KYC-a, više nisam imao pristup odeljku za isplate na mom nalogu. Pre toga sam mogao da vidim svoja čekajuća isplate. Nakon što je ograničenje primenjeno, nisam imao uvid u njihov status niti način da saznam da li su ostala na čekanju, da li su otkazana ili vraćena. Stoga sam se u potpunosti oslanjao na komunikaciju operatera, koja je sve i dalje ukazivala na to da je moja isplata podložna verifikaciji.
Tokom ovog slučaja, više puta sam slao imejlove operateru pitajući gde je otišlo mojih 1.200 evra, kada će moje isplate biti obrađene i tražeći istoriju igranja, istoriju transakcija, evidenciju otkazivanja i evidenciju revizije naloga. Takođe sam podneo zahtev za odgovornost na zahtev (DSAR) tražeći evidenciju mog naloga. Nijedan od ovih zahteva nije dobio nikakav smislen odgovor ili potvrdu. Detaljno objašnjenje i ograničeni snimak ekrana su napravljeni tek nakon što se Kazino Guru uključio.
Ako je ovo uvek bilo objašnjenje operatera, s poštovanjem pitam zašto nijedna od ovih informacija nije dostavljena kada sam je više puta direktno tražio. Da je operater jednostavno odgovorio sa relevantnim zapisima u to vreme, veliki deo ovog spora je mogao biti rešen pre nekoliko meseci.
Konačno, s poštovanjem tvrdim da ograničeni snimak ekrana koji je dostavljen, po mom mišljenju, nije dovoljan da se nezavisno potvrdi rekonstrukcija događaja koju je izvršio operater. To je skraćeni izvod, a ne kompletan trag revizije naloga.
Iz ovih razloga, s poštovanjem molim operatera da dostavi:
Kompletni evidencioni izveštaji za moj nalog.
Tačna vremenska oznaka otkazivanja za svako povlačenje.
Tačan vremenski žig refinansiranja od 1.200 evra.
Kompletna istorija stanja pre i posle navodnog rekreditovanja.
Kompletna istorija igranja i dnevnici sesija koji pokrivaju relevantni period.
Potvrda ko je otkazao isplate i kako sam obavešten.
Moj stav je ostao dosledan sve vreme. Osporavam verziju događaja koju je izneo operater, što je upravo razlog zašto sam više puta tražio osnovne zapise. Ti zapisi nisu dostavljeni sve do ovog postupka, uprkos mojim brojnim zahtevima.
Hvala vam na kontinuiranoj pomoći.
Hi Lucia,
Thank you for the opportunity to respond.
Having reviewed the operator's response, I continue to dispute their version of events and respectfully ask that a number of important discrepancies be clarified.
Firstly, the operator states that my three withdrawals were cancelled and €1,200 was recredited to my balance at 08:50 UTC. However, the screenshot they have provided appears to associate the balance increase with the gameplay entries at approximately 08:30 UTC, rather than 08:50 UTC. This appears inconsistent with the written timeline they have provided. I therefore ask that the operator provide the complete audit trail showing the exact cancellation time of each withdrawal and the exact timestamp of the €1,200 recredit.
I also note that this differs from the explanation previously given to me by support, where I was advised the funds had been returned while I was playing Mythology Zeus. The explanation now presented to Casino Guru instead suggests that I stopped playing, the withdrawals were cancelled, and I later resumed play. I ask that the operator clarify the correct sequence of events and provide the records supporting it.
More importantly, the operator has still not explained who cancelled the withdrawals. I certainly did not cancel them. If the operator cancelled them, I ask that they explain who authorised those cancellations, why they were cancelled, under what policy or terms they were cancelled, and how I was notified that this had happened.
The operator's timeline is also difficult to reconcile with the communications I received from their KYC team.
I received an email advising that my withdrawal was on hold pending completion of KYC verification. I then completed the requested verification and was subsequently asked to confirm my withdrawal account. Those communications clearly indicated to me that the withdrawal process was still ongoing.
If, as the operator now states, the withdrawals had already been cancelled and the funds returned to my balance before those communications, I respectfully ask the operator to explain:
Why was I informed that my withdrawal was on hold pending verification?
Why was I subsequently asked to confirm my withdrawal account if there was no longer a pending withdrawal?
Why did the operator never inform me that my withdrawals had already been cancelled and returned?
Following the KYC process, I did not receive confirmation that my account had been successfully verified or that my withdrawals had been cancelled. I was simply informed that no further documents were required. At no point was the true status of my withdrawals clearly communicated.
I would also like to point out that once the KYC restriction was applied, I no longer had access to the withdrawal section of my account. Prior to this I could view my pending withdrawals. After the restriction was applied, I had no visibility of their status and no means of knowing whether they remained pending, had been cancelled or had been returned. I therefore relied entirely on the operator's communications, all of which continued to indicate that my withdrawal was subject to verification.
Throughout this matter I repeatedly emailed the operator asking where my €1,200 had gone, when my withdrawals would be processed, and requesting my gameplay history, transaction history, cancellation records and account audit logs. I also submitted a DSAR requesting my account records. None of these requests received any meaningful response or acknowledgement. The detailed explanation and limited screenshot have only been produced after Casino Guru became involved.
If this has always been the operator's explanation, I respectfully ask why none of this information was provided when I repeatedly requested it directly. Had the operator simply responded with the relevant records at the time, much of this dispute could have been addressed months ago.
Finally, I respectfully submit that the limited screenshot provided is not, in my view, sufficient to independently verify the operator's reconstruction of events. It is a cropped extract rather than a complete account audit trail.
For these reasons, I respectfully request that the operator provide:
The complete audit logs for my account.
The exact cancellation timestamp for each withdrawal.
The exact timestamp of the €1,200 recredit.
The complete balance history before and after the alleged recredit.
The full gameplay history and session logs covering the relevant period.
Confirmation of who cancelled the withdrawals and how I was notified.
My position has remained consistent throughout. I dispute the operator's version of events, which is precisely why I repeatedly requested the underlying records. Those records were not provided until these proceedings, despite my numerous requests.
Thank you for your continued assistance.
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