Novibet Casino MX - Igrač traži povraćaj novca nakon što je samoisključenje naloga ignorisano.

I have been playing at this casino for some time, where due to gambling problems I lost everything I had, when I finally plucked up the courage and asked to self-exclude from the platform, they did not respect my decision and kept calling me on the phone to convince me to reopen my account with promises of bonuses and incentives to keep playing, I have deposited around 50 thousand pesos since I requested the closure of my account until now, I would like to obtain a refund of at least 25,000 Mexican pesos due to the lack of ethics and seriousness of the casino, for taking advantage of the vulnerability of a sick person, on many occasions I requested the closure of my account which most of the time was ignored and when they did they looked for me to convince me to return, today looking at the emails again you can see a clear lack of morals on the part of the casino, because in the emails you can read my desperation and anguish, to which they remained indifferent, I add evidence of such behavior.

I can attach more evidence if necessary.

Llevo un tiempo jugando en este casino, mismo en el que por problemas con el juego perdí todo lo que tenía, cuando por fin me arme de valor y pedí autoexcluirme de la plataforma, no respetaron mi desición y me estuvieron marcando por teléfono para convencerme de que reabriera mi cuenta con promesas de bonos e incentivos para que siguiera jugando, he depositado alrededor de 50 mil pesos desde que solicité el cierre de mi cuenta hasta el momento, quisiera obtener un reembolso de al menos 25,000 pesos mexicanos por la falta de ética y seriedad del casino, por aprovecharse de la vulnerabilidad de una persona enferma, en muchas ocasiones pedí el cierre de cuenta lo cual la mayoría de las veces fue ignorado y cuando lo hicieron me buscaron para convencerme de regresar, hoy viendo nuevamente los correos se puede ver una clara falta de moral por parte del casino, pues en los correos se puede leer mi desesperación y angustia, a lo cual ellos permanecieron indiferentes, agrego evidencias de dicho comportamiento.

Puedo adjuntar más evidencias si fuera necesario.

Dear raulrmz357,

Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I'm sorry to hear about your problem.

First, I’d like to clarify the difference between account closure and self-exclusion:

• Closing an account is a simple process with minimal impact—players can reopen their accounts at any time, and the casino has no ongoing obligations toward them.
• Self-exclusion, on the other hand, comes with stricter restrictions. When a player successfully requests self-exclusion, the casino agrees not to reopen the account, except under specific circumstances (such as after a cooling-off period, but never for players with gambling problems).

Have you mentioned gambling addiction as the reason for your account closure request in any of your communications with the casino?

Would you be so kind as to forward me the account closure requests you sent to the casino, along with the casino's responses? You can send them to me at veronika.f@casino.guru.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Best regards,

Veronika

Please note that Casino.Guru will never request payments or ask for access to your accounts. If anyone claims to be a Casino.Guru representative and asks for such actions, do not provide any information.

The only official way we will contact you is through this complaint platform or via the email addresses provided in your complaint thread.

Stay cautious, and if you have any doubts, please reach out to us directly.

Ready, I sent what you asked me by mail.

Listo envié lo que me pidió por correo

Thank you for your email.

Unfortunately, we are only able to assist with refund requests in cases where players explicitly state that they are suffering from gambling addiction and ask to be self-excluded—but the casino fails to close their account. Without such evidence, we cannot ask the casino to join the resolution of this complaint or request a refund for not protecting a vulnerable player.

At this point, the most we can do is guide you on how to write a proper self-exclusion request—if your account is still accessible.

Would you be interested in that?

Also, as you can see in this image, when you go to manage your account, the option to flag problems with the game never appears, and I know they do this on purpose to get around legal loopholes.

Además como se observa en esta imagen cuando vas a gestionar tu cuenta en ningún momento aparece la opción de marcar por problemas con el juego y se que lo hacen a propósito para brincarse vacíos legales.

Please forward me the entire email conversation between you and the casino after you asked to close your account due to gambling addiction at veronika.f@casino.guru. Has the casino responded to this message? I will need the entire emails, not just screenshots.

Ready, I sent an email, I didn't receive a response from the casino.

Listo ya envié correo, no recibí respuesta por parte del casino.

Is there any news regarding my issue? I really need your response. 😓

Habrá alguna novedad respecto a mi tema? De verdad me urge su respuesta 😓

Thank you very much for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Matej (matej.l@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.

Hello raulrmz357, nice to meet you!

My name is Matej, and I will be assisting you with this case. I'll do my best to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible.

I’d like to invite a representative of Novibet Casino MX to join the conversation and participate in the investigation of this case as well. Could you possibly provide additional information regarding the issue with self-exclusion and clarify the situation? I would also appreciate if the casino could provide us with any and all relevant evidence. Any sensitive information or internal system files can be shared with me directly by e-mail matej.l@casino.guru.

Thank you for your patience and cooperation in advance.

I would like to thank both raulrmz357 and Novibet Casino MX for provided information via e-mail. I have requested additional information from the casino. Once received, I will have the whole picture and post an update in this thread, to keep everyone updated about the current situation.

Since the casino is communicating via e-mails, I will be resetting the timer, as I have requested additional information from the support team.

Novibet took advantage of my gambling addiction to enrich itself, even though I tried to reach an agreement with the casino and abided by its terms and conditions. However, the casino's behavior is absolutely unethical and disrespectful, acting as if my gambling addiction didn't exist and they didn't know what I was doing.

The reality is that gambling addiction is a real problem affecting millions of people. Research shows that 95% of people who request self-exclusion do so due to problem gambling, and this occurs after hitting rock bottom and as a suicide prevention measure. And yet, the casino convinced me to open my account despite knowing that gambling addiction is a real problem.

Literature on gambling addiction describes how the sense of the value of money is lost, and the idea of winning becomes obsessive. Gambling can cause legal, family, and social problems, and can lead to suicide, delinquency, or the loss of relationships. In my case, gambling addiction has dominated my life, and I have lost control of my impulses.

The cycle of gambling addiction is a process that consists of several phases:

- A trigger, which can be internal or external, causes someone to return to gambling after a period of abstinence.

- The urge to gamble develops after experiencing the trigger, and it becomes increasingly difficult to resist.

- The gambling episode can result in either winnings or losses, and it is common for the affected person to continue gambling to recover from the losses or try to win even more.

- The game phase ends when time or money runs out, but the cycle can start again at any time.

It's unacceptable that Novibet ignores these factors and profits from the vulnerability of people addicted to gambling. I demand that measures be taken to address this situation and that I be provided with a fair solution.

Why, despite my intentions to reach an agreement, did they tell me they wouldn't refund me anything? It's really not fair.

Novibet se aprovechó de mi adicción al juego para enriquecerse, a pesar de que intenté llegar a un acuerdo con el casino y cumplí con sus términos y condiciones. Sin embargo, el comportamiento del casino es absolutamente poco ético e irrespetuoso, ya que actúa como si la adicción al juego no existiera y no supiera lo que estaba haciendo.

La realidad es que la adicción al juego es un problema real que afecta a millones de personas. Investigaciones demuestran que el 95% de las personas que solicitan autoexclusión es debido a problemas con el juego, y esto ocurre después de tocar fondo y como medida para prevenir el suicidio. Y, sin embargo, el casino me convenció de abrir mi cuenta a pesar de saber que la adicción al juego es un problema real.

La literatura sobre la adicción al juego describe cómo se pierde el sentido del valor del dinero, y la idea de ganar se vuelve obsesiva. El juego puede generar problemas legales, familiares y sociales, y puede conducir al suicidio, la delincuencia o la pérdida de relaciones. En mi caso, la adicción al juego ha dominado mi vida, y he perdido el control de mis impulsos.

El ciclo de la ludopatía es un proceso que se compone de varias fases:

- Un detonante, que puede ser interno o externo, provoca que alguien vuelva a jugar después de un período de abstinencia.

- El impulso de jugar se desarrolla después de experimentar el detonante, y resulta cada vez más difícil resistirse.

- El episodio de juego puede producir ganancias o pérdidas, y es habitual que el afectado siga jugando para recuperarse de las pérdidas o intentar ganar aún más.

- La fase de juego finaliza cuando se acaba el tiempo o el dinero, pero el ciclo puede comenzar de nuevo en cualquier momento.

Es inaceptable que Novibet ignore estos factores y se beneficie de la vulnerabilidad de las personas adictas al juego. Exijo que se tomen medidas para abordar esta situación y que se me proporcione una solución justa.

Por qué a pesar de mis intenciones para llegar a un acuerdo ellos me dijeron que no me reembolsaran nada y de verdad no es justo.

The casino representative has sent me an e-mail saying something along the lines of "the decision has been made, thank you". I have requested any kind of evidence or explanation. If we don't hear back or no evidence is presented, I am afraid this case will end up as unresolved. Hopefully the casino representative will be willing to speak and cooperate.

They don't want to cooperate, they're unethical, I really hope they can put up a warning, I know I'm not the only one in this situation with this particular casino.

No quiere cooperar son pocos éticos, espero realmente puedan poner una advertencia, se que no soy el único en esta situación con este casino en particular.

We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.

And in style, time is up and the casino doesn't receive any penalty, there are no consequences, how sad that they only made me waste my time

Y a la moda se termino el tiempo y el casino no recibe ninguna penalización, no tiene consecuencias, que tristeza que solo me hicieran perder mi tiempo

Dear raulrmz357,

I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly via e-mails and Teams, but had no success. I’m afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from their side. I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system, and it will negatively impact their future safety rating on our website as such, once the automated, weekly recalculation happens. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue at all. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints might help to change the casino's approach in the future. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email.

As a next step, I do recommend you contact the Dirección General de Juegos y Sorteos Mexico and submit a complaint with them. To do this, please click this link (http://juegosysorteos.gob.mx/es/Juegos_y_Sorteos/Quejas) and follow the instructions. To speed up the processing, please do not forget to mention that the license holder is company named: COMERCIAL DE JUEGOS DE LA FRONTERA, S. A. DE C. V. If you need help with submitting the request, or if you hear back from either the authority or the casino, please let me know by sending me a quick message at matej.l@casino.guru. I am really sorry I could not be of more help on this occasion. :(

Best regards,

Matej