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The player from French Guiana had a complaint regarding the cancellation of his €1200 withdrawal due to claims of unmet wagering requirements. He insisted that he had followed all terms and conditions, highlighting that he had played a game contributing 0% towards wagering requirements but that was not explicitly listed as prohibited, and that he had received no warnings or restrictions while playing. The player argued that the terms were unclear and that the cancellation of winnings was unfair. After reviewing the case and the provided information, we clarified that games with 0% contribution were effectively restricted for bonus play as they did not count towards wagering requirements, making related winnings ineligible for withdrawal under bonus conditions. Consequently, the complaint was closed as rejected.
Igrač iz Francuske Gvajane imao je žalbu u vezi sa otkazivanjem njegove isplate od 1200 evra zbog tvrdnji o neispunjenim uslovima klađenja. Insistirao je da je poštovao sve uslove i odredbe, ističući da je igrao igru koja doprinosi 0% uslovima klađenja, ali koja nije eksplicitno navedena kao zabranjena, i da nije dobio nikakva upozorenja ili ograničenja tokom igranja. Igrač je tvrdio da uslovi nisu jasni i da je otkazivanje dobitaka bilo nepravedno. Nakon pregleda slučaja i dostavljenih informacija, razjasnili smo da su igre sa doprinosom od 0% efikasno ograničene za bonus igru jer se ne računaju u uslove klađenja, što čini povezane dobitke nepodobnim za isplatu pod uslovima bonusa. Shodno tome, žalba je zatvorena kao odbijena.
Kazino je otkazao moju isplatu od 1200 evra, tvrdeći da „nisu ispunjeni uslovi klađenja" ili da određene igre ne doprinose.
Poštovao sam sve uslove i odredbe, a igre koje sam igrao su se jasno računale u uslove klađenja. Nigde nije navedeno da će pobeda pre nego što završim punu opkladu poništiti moju isplatu.
Ovo otkazivanje je nepravedno. Molim vašu pomoć u rešavanju ovog problema i osiguravanju da se moje povlačenje pravilno obradi.
Hvala vam na podršci.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Subject: Withdrawal of €1200 Unfairly Canceled
Hello,
My €1200 withdrawal was canceled by the casino, claiming "wagering requirements not met" or that certain games don’t contribute.
I followed all terms and conditions, and the games I played clearly counted toward the wagering requirements. Nowhere was it stated that winning before completing the full wager would void my withdrawal.
This cancellation is unfair. I request your assistance in resolving this issue and ensuring my withdrawal is processed correctly.
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Ponašajte se odgovorno.
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If anything seems suspicious, contact us directly.
Hvala vam što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je zbog problema sa otkazivanjem vašeg povlačenja 1200 evra.
Molimo vas da obratite pažnju na sledeće uslove i odredbe u vezi sa bonus sredstvima i isplatama:
1.8. Kada učestvujete u promociji, i uplaćena sredstva i bonus sredstva postaju deo „bonus stanja". Ako je bonus aktivan, moraju se ispuniti uslovi za klađenje ili se bonus stanje mora smanjiti na nulu pre nego što se može izvršiti isplata. Jedini izuzetak je ako želite samo da povučete svoj depozit, u kom slučaju će sva bonus sredstva i svi povezani dobici biti oduzeti.
1.12. Ako zatražite isplatu pre nego što ispunite uslove za klađenje, izgubićete iznos bonusa, sve bonus dobitke i bićete isključeni iz promocije.
1.13. Bonus sredstva se prikazuju odvojeno od uplaćenih sredstava na vašem igračkom nalogu. Mogu se povući tek nakon što se konvertuju u pravi novac.
1.14. Dok se igra sa aktivnim bonusom, sredstva se koriste sledećim redosledom: sredstva potrebna za aktiviranje bonusa, bonus sredstva, a zatim sva preostala sredstva.
1.15. Možete povući svoj pravi novac pre nego što ispunite uslove za klađenje; međutim, to će rezultirati gubitkom svih bonus sredstava.
1.16. Ako se i vaš depozit i bonus sredstva potroše pre nego što ispunite uslove za klađenje, svi preostali uslovi za klađenje biće obrisani.
1.17. Kada se uslovi za klađenje u potpunosti ispune, deponovana sredstva, bonus sredstva i svi dobici postaju dostupni za isplatu kao pravi novac.
Prema standardnim Uslovima i odredbama, svi dobici, raspoloživi iznosi bonusa ili promotivne ponude biće otkazani i uklonjeni sa bonus balansa igrača ako se ne iskoriste u navedenom vremenskom periodu i pre nego što se ispune uslovi za klađenje. Za detaljnije informacije, preporučujemo da pregledate odeljak Zahtevi za klađenje.
Da bismo bolje razumeli vašu situaciju i efikasno vam pomogli, molimo vas da pojasnite sledeće:
Možete li potvrditi nazive konkretnih igara koje ste igrali i kako smatrate da su doprinele uslovima klađenja?
Da li ste primili bilo kakva obaveštenja ili poruke u vezi sa otkazivanjem vašeg povlačenja?
Možete li da pružite neku drugu dokumentaciju ili snimke ekrana koji potkrepljuju vašu tvrdnju?
Nadamo se da ćemo vam pomoći da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petra
Dear Alexisp44,
Thank you for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about the issue regarding the cancellation of your €1200 withdrawal.
Please note the following terms and conditions related to bonus funds and withdrawals:
1.8. When you take part in a promotion, both deposited funds and bonus funds become part of the "bonus balance." If a bonus is active, wagering requirements must be completed, or the bonus balance must be reduced to zero before a withdrawal can be made. The only exception is if you wish to withdraw your deposit only, in which case all bonus funds and any associated winnings will be forfeited.
1.12. If you request a withdrawal before meeting the wagering requirements, you will forfeit your bonus amount, any bonus winnings, and you will be opted out of the promotion.
1.13. Bonus funds are displayed separately from deposited funds in your player account. They can only be withdrawn once they have been converted into real money.
1.14. While playing with an active bonus, funds are used in the following order: funds required to trigger the bonus, bonus funds, and then any remaining funds.
1.15. You may withdraw your real money balance before completing wagering requirements; however, doing so will result in forfeiture of all bonus funds.
1.16. If both your deposit and bonus funds are depleted before fulfilling wagering requirements, any remaining wagering requirements will be cleared.
1.17. Once wagering requirements are fully met, deposited funds, bonus funds, and any winnings become withdrawable as real cash.
According to the standard Terms and Conditions, all winnings, available bonus amounts, or promotional offers will be canceled and removed from the player’s bonus balance if they are not used within the specified time period and before the wagering requirements have been fulfilled. For more detailed information, we recommend reviewing the Wagering Requirements section.
To better understand your situation and assist you effectively, could you please clarify the following:
Could you confirm the names of the specific games you played, and how you believe they contributed to the wagering requirements?
Did you receive any notifications or messages regarding the cancellation of your withdrawal?
Can you provide any other documentation or screenshots that support your claim?
We hope to assist you in resolving this matter as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Hvala vam na odgovoru i što ste razmotrili moj slučaj.
Evo detalja moje situacije:
Igrao sam uglavnom igru „Wanted Dead or a Wild".
Prema uslovima bonusa, ova igra doprinosi 0% uslovima klađenja, ali nije navedena kao ograničena ili zabranjena igra.
Mogao sam da se kladim i nastavim da igram normalno, bez ikakvog upozorenja ili ograničenja od strane sistema.
U nekom trenutku sam osvojio otprilike 500 evra od jednog okretaja u ovoj igri. Međutim, kazino je kasnije otkazao moju isplatu. Nisam mnogo igrao na tom konkretnom aparatu; verovatno sam napravio samo 300 okretaja na njemu. Igrao sam na oko trideset različitih aparata tokom perioda klađenja.
Nisam dobio nikakvo jasno obaveštenje u kojem bi se objasnilo da igranje ove igre može dovesti do konfiskacije dobitaka.
Koliko ja razumem, doprinos od 0% samo znači da se opklade ne računaju u klađenje, ali ne bi trebalo da rezultira gubitkom dobitaka.
Nažalost, nemam kompletnu istoriju svih svojih opklada, ali mogu da potvrdim da nisam namerno pokušao da zaobiđem nijedno pravilo.
Molim vas, obavestite me ako su vam potrebne dodatne informacije ili snimci ekrana.
Hvala vam na pomoći.
Srdačan pozdrav,
U prilogu je snimak ekrana otkazivanja povlačenja i razlog koji je naveo kazino.
Aleksis
Dear Petra,
Thank you for your reply and for looking into my case.
Here are the details of my situation:
I played mainly on the game "Wanted Dead or a Wild".
According to the bonus terms, this game contributes 0% towards the wagering requirements, but it is not listed as a restricted or forbidden game.
I was able to place bets and continue playing normally, without any warning or restriction from the system.
At some point, I won approximately 500€ from a spin on this game. However, my withdrawal was later canceled by the casino. I didn't play that particular machine much; I probably only did 300 spins on it. I played about thirty different machines during my wagering period.
I did not receive any clear notification explaining that playing this game could lead to confiscation of winnings.
From my understanding, a 0% contribution only means that the bets do not count towards wagering, but it should not result in the loss of winnings.
Unfortunately, I do not have a full history of all my bets, but I can confirm that I did not intentionally try to bypass any rules.
Please let me know if you need any additional information or screenshots.
Thank you for your help.
Best regards,
Please find attached a screenshot of the withdrawal cancellation and the reason provided by the casino.
U prilogu su snimci ekrana relevantnih uslova i odredbi. Oni jasno navode da navedene igre doprinose 0% uslovima za klađenje. Drugim rečima, one se ne računaju u opkladu, ali nisu označene kao zabranjene.
Uslovi takođe pominju da kazino zadržava pravo da poništi sve dobitke ostvarene igranjem zabranjenih igara. Međutim, ni u jednom trenutku uslovi eksplicitno ne klasifikuju ove igre kao zabranjene — samo se navodi da ne doprinose uslovima klađenja.
Ova nejasnoća stvara značajnu dvosmislenost za igrače. Oslanjao sam se na uslove i odredbe kako su predstavljeni na vašoj veb stranici i nisam imao razumnu osnovu da verujem da kršim bilo koja pravila igrajući igru koja nije eksplicitno opisana kao zabranjena.
Žao mi je, moj engleski nije baš dobar.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Hello,
Please find attached screenshots of the relevant terms and conditions. These clearly state that the listed games contribute 0% toward the wagering requirements. In other words, they do not count toward the wager, but they are not identified as prohibited.
The terms also mention that the casino reserves the right to void any winnings obtained from playing prohibited games. However, at no point do the terms explicitly classify these games as prohibited—only that they do not contribute to the wagering requirements.
This lack of clarity creates significant ambiguity for players. I relied on the terms and conditions as presented on your website and had no reasonable basis to believe that I was breaching any rules by playing a game that is not explicitly described as prohibited.
Hvala vam na odgovoru i navedenim detaljima, Alexisp44.
Prema informacijama koje ste dali, činjenica da ove igre doprinose sa 0% uslovima za klađenje u suštini znači da su ograničene za igrača u kontekstu bonus igre. Iako možda nisu eksplicitno označene kao „zabranjene", one ni na koji način ne doprinose ispunjavanju uslova za klađenje, što njihovo korišćenje čini nekompatibilnim sa ispunjavanjem uslova za bonus.
Da li ste ranije kontaktirali kazino u vezi sa ovim problemom? Ako jeste, kakav je bio njihov odgovor?
Možete li da dostavite bilo koju drugu dokumentaciju ili snimke ekrana koji potkrepljuju vašu tvrdnju? Svu dokumentaciju možete poslati na: petra.h@casino.guru ili postavite snimke ekrana u temu.
Hvala vam još jednom na saradnji.
Thank you for your reply and for providing the previous details, Alexisp44.
According to the information you provided, the fact that these games contribute 0% toward wagering requirements effectively means they are restricted for the player in the context of bonus play. While they may not be explicitly labeled as "prohibited," they do not contribute in any way toward fulfilling the wagering requirements, making their use incompatible with completing the bonus conditions.
Have you previously contacted the casino about this issue? If so, what was their response?
Can you provide any other documentation or screenshots supporting your claim? You can send all documents to: petra.h@casino.guru or post your screenshots in the thread.
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear Alexisp44,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Naslov: Dodatna pojašnjenja u vezi sa ograničenim igrama
Zdravo Petra,
Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Želeo bih da razjasnim jednu važnu stvar u vezi sa igrama sa „0% doprinosa".
Doprinos od 0% ne znači nužno da su igre zabranjene. To samo znači da se ove igre ne računaju u uslove klađenja. Nigde u uslovima nije jasno navedeno da su ove igre strogo zabranjene.
Dodatno:
Mogao sam da pristupim i igram igru bez ikakvih ograničenja.
Nije bilo upozorenja niti sistemske blokade koja bi ukazivala da igra nije dozvoljena.
Kazino mi je dozvolio da nastavim normalno da igram.
Ako je igra zaista zabranjena, sistem bi trebalo da spreči pristup ili da prikaže jasno upozorenje. Dozvoljavanje igračima da slobodno igraju, a tek kasnije poništavanje dobitaka je nepravedno i obmanjujuće.
Verujem da je ova situacija posledica nejasnih uslova i nedostatka sprovođenja zakona od strane kazina.
Takođe ću obezbediti snimke ekrana uslova bonusa koji pokazuju da su ove igre navedene kao igre sa 0% doprinosa, a ne eksplicitno zabranjene.
Hvala vam na pomoći.
Subject: Additional clarification regarding restricted games
Hello Petra,
Thank you for your reply.
I would like to clarify an important point regarding the "0% contribution" games.
A 0% contribution does not necessarily mean that the games are forbidden. It only means that these games do not count towards the wagering requirements. Nowhere in the terms is it clearly stated that these games are strictly prohibited.
Additionally:
I was able to access and play the game without any restriction.
There was no warning or system block indicating that the game was not allowed.
The casino allowed me to continue playing normally.
If a game is truly forbidden, the system should prevent access or display a clear warning. Allowing players to play freely and only later voiding winnings is unfair and misleading.
I believe this situation is due to unclear terms and lack of enforcement from the casino side.
I will also provide screenshots of the bonus terms showing that these games are listed as 0% contribution, not explicitly forbidden.
Hvala vam na odgovoru i navedenim prethodnim detaljima.
Na osnovu informacija i materijala koje ste nam dostavili, kao i naše interne procene, želimo da pojasnimo da se igre sa 0% doprinosa uslovima za klađenje efikasno smatraju ograničenim u kontekstu bonus igre. Iako takve igre nisu uvek eksplicitno navedene kao „zabranjene", one ni na koji način ne doprinose ispunjavanju uslova za klađenje i stoga se ne mogu koristiti za napredovanje ili ispunjavanje uslova za bonus.
Kao rezultat toga, bilo kakvo igranje ovih igara se ne računa u obavezno klađenje i ne može se uzeti u obzir prilikom procene dobitaka vezanih za bonus.
S obzirom na ove okolnosti, i u skladu sa našim internim pravilima i standardima evaluacije, nismo u mogućnosti da dodatno podržimo vaš zahtev. Stoga vas obaveštavam da će vaša žalba biti zatvorena kao odbijena.
Žao mi je što vam trenutno ne možemo dalje pomoći u vezi sa ovim pitanjem. Ukoliko u budućnosti budete imali dodatne relevantne dokaze, slobodno nas ponovo kontaktirajte.
Hvala vam na razumevanju i saradnji.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petra
Dear Alexisp44,
Thank you for your reply and for providing the previous details.
Based on the information and materials you have provided, as well as our internal assessment, we would like to clarify that games with a 0% contribution toward wagering requirements are effectively considered restricted within the context of bonus play. While such games may not always be explicitly listed as "prohibited," they do not contribute in any way toward fulfilling the wagering requirements and therefore cannot be used to progress or complete bonus conditions.
As a result, any gameplay on these titles does not count toward the required wagering and cannot be considered when evaluating bonus-related winnings.
Given these circumstances, and in line with our internal rules and evaluation standards, we are unable to support your claim further. Therefore, I must inform you that your complaint will be closed as rejected.
I am sorry that we are unable to assist you further in this matter at this time. Should you have any additional relevant evidence in the future, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Thank you for your understanding and cooperation.
Best regards,
Petra
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