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The player from the United Kingdom disputed the manual confiscation of his £760 balance by Zizobet, citing a "duplicate account violation" despite clear instructions from the casino that his account was verified and safe to use. He provided evidence of contradictory statements from the casino's support team, asserting that their actions were arbitrary and requested mediation to recover his winnings. We were unable to uphold the complaint because the two accounts were registered with different email addresses, the duplicate-account issue was only identified after verification, and the disputed balance came entirely from a no-deposit/free-spins promotion. As the winnings were generated from a promotional offer, we did not interfere with the casino’s decision not to honor them, so the complaint was rejected.
Igrač iz Ujedinjenog Kraljevstva osporio je ručnu konfiskaciju njegovog stanja od 760 funti od strane Zizobeta, navodeći „kršenje pravila dupliranja naloga“ uprkos jasnim uputstvima kazina da je njegov nalog verifikovan i bezbedan za korišćenje. Pružio je dokaze o kontradiktornim izjavama tima za podršku kazina, tvrdeći da su njihove akcije bile proizvoljne i zatražio je posredovanje kako bi povratio svoje dobitke. Nismo mogli da potvrdimo žalbu jer su dva naloga registrovana sa različitim imejl adresama, problem sa dupliranjem naloga je identifikovan tek nakon verifikacije, a sporni saldo je u potpunosti potekao iz promocije bez depozita/besplatnih okretaja. Pošto su dobici generisani iz promotivne ponude, nismo se mešali u odluku kazina da ih ne ispoštuje, pa je žalba odbijena.
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Poštovani tim za žalbe Casino Guru-a,
Podnosim zvanični spor protiv kompanije Zizobet (kojom upravlja Santeda International BV) u vezi sa nezakonitim ručnim oduzimanjem gotovinskog stanja od 760 funti. Operator je naveo „kršenje pravila o dupliranju naloga" prema odeljcima 9 i 10 njihovih uslova, ali je situacija u potpunosti uzrokovana obmanjujućim, kontradiktornim i direktnim uputstvima koje je poslao sam menadžerski tim kazina.
Hronologija događaja:
Nedelju dana pre moje sesije, Zizobet mi je poslao nepoželjan imejl u kojem je eksplicitno naveo: „Ovaj nalog je potpuno verifikovan i zatvorili smo sve duplikate [naloga]." Ovo je bila zvanična korporativna direktiva kojom me je obavestila da je moj originalni nalog očišćen, verifikovan i bezbedan za korišćenje.
Oslanjajući se u potpunosti na eksplicitna uputstva kazina, prijavio sam se na ovaj verifikovani nalog. Bekend sistem je prikazivao dostupnu promociju besplatnih okretaja na Book of Pyramids (BGaming). Iskoristio sam je u 100% dobroj veri.
Uspešno sam ispunio tehničke uslove klađenja za bonus, prebacio se na Big Bass (Pragmatic Play) i povećao rezultujući saldo gotovine na ukupno 760 funti.
Nakon zahteva za povlačenje, kazino je ručno revidirao moj račun i potpuno obrisao stanje od 760 funti.
Osnovne protivrečnosti i dokazi loše vere:
Kada sam osporio podršku u vezi sa ovom nepravednom konfiskacijom, oni su pružili dva odvojena, kontradiktorna objašnjenja koja dokazuju da postupaju u lošoj veri:
Kontradikcija 1 (Podrška na prvoj liniji): Agent za ćaskanje uživo je zvanično pismeno izjavio: „Nismo u mogućnosti da otkrijemo drugi nalog dok se ovi nalogi u potpunosti ne verifikuju." Ovo potpuno poništava njihovu odbranu, jer njihova sopstvena e-pošta od pre nedelju dana dokazuje da su već u potpunosti verifikovali nalog. Po logici njihovog agenta, bili su potpuno upoznati sa istorijom mog naloga pre nego što su dozvolili igru.
Kontradikcija 2 (Specijalista za eskalaciju): Menadžer eskalacije je zatim tvrdio da, pošto dobici potiču od besplatnih okretaja, „ne mogu biti vraćeni". U istoj poruci su naveli: „U ovom trenutku mogu samo da potvrdim da ćete moći da koristite svoj drugi nalog."
Osnov spora:
Ako me je moj identitet ili istorija zaista diskvalifikovali od korišćenja promocija platforme, kazino nije trebalo da pošalje zvaničnu e-poštu kojom me aktivno upućuje da koristim taj nalog, niti je trebalo da njihov sistem dozvoli da se bonus zatraži. Štaviše, držanje mog naloga otvorenim za buduće igranje, a istovremeno uklanjanje mojih trenutnih dobitaka, dokazuje da me ne smatraju prevarantskim korisnikom; oni jednostavno izmišljaju proizvoljne izgovore kako bi izbegli legitimnu isplatu od 760 funti.
Sačuvao sam kompletne snimke ekrana e-pošte za verifikaciju pre pobede, naknadnu istoriju igre i transkripte ćaskanja uživo u kojima sam uhvatio njihov tim za podršku u ovim direktnim lažima. Spreman sam da odmah otpremim ove datoteke timu Casino Guru na zahtev.
Ljubazno vas molim za nezavisno posredovanje kako biste naložili Zizobetu da isplati preostali iznos od 760 funti, osvojen pod njihovim direktnim vođstvom.
Hvala vam na vremenu i pomoći.
Dear Casino Guru Complaints Team,
I am lodging a formal dispute against Zizobet (operated by Santeda International B.V.) regarding the wrongful manual confiscation of a £760 cash balance. The operator has cited a "duplicate account violation" under Sections 9 and 10 of their terms, but the situation was entirely caused by misleading, contradictory, and direct instructions sent by the casino's own management team.
Timeline of Events:
A week prior to my session, Zizobet sent me an unsolicited email explicitly stating: "You have this account all verified and we closed all duplicate [accounts]." This was an official corporate directive instructing me that my original account was cleared, verified, and safe to use.
Relying entirely on the casino's explicit instructions, I logged into this verified account. The backend system displayed an available free spins promotion on Book of Pyramids (BGaming). I claimed it in 100% good faith.
I successfully met the technical wagering requirements of the bonus, transferred to Big Bass (Pragmatic Play), and ran the resulting cash balance up to a total of £760.
Upon requesting a withdrawal, the casino manually audited my account and completely wiped the £760 balance.
The Core Contradictions and Evidence of Bad Faith:
When I challenged support regarding this unfair confiscation, they provided two separate, contradictory explanations that prove they are acting in bad faith:
Contradiction 1 (Frontline Support): The live chat agent officially stated in writing: "We are unable to detect a second account until these are fully verified." This completely invalidates their defense, as their own email from a week prior proves they had already fully verified the account. By their own agent's logic, they were entirely aware of my account history before permitting play.
Contradiction 2 (Escalation Specialist): The escalation manager then claimed that because the winnings originated from free spins, they "cannot be reinstated." In the exact same message, they stated: "At this moment, I can only confirm that you will be able to use your other account."
Basis of the Dispute:
If my identity or history genuinely disqualified me from utilizing platform promotions, the casino should not have sent an official email actively directing me to use that account, nor should their backend system have allowed the bonus to be claimed. Furthermore, keeping my account open for future play while simultaneously stripping my current winnings proves they do not consider me a fraudulent user; they are simply inventing arbitrary excuses to evade a legitimate £760 payout.
I have saved full screenshot evidence of the pre-win verification email, the subsequent game history, and the live chat transcripts catching their support team in these direct lies. I am prepared to upload these files to the Casino Guru team immediately upon request.
I kindly ask for your independent mediation to instruct Zizobet to honor the £760 balance won fairly under their direct guidance.
Thank you for your time and assistance.
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If anything seems suspicious, contact us directly.
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Dragi igraču,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je zbog vašeg problema. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih mogao u potpunosti da razumem celu situaciju.
Da li ste kontaktirali korisničku podršku pre otvaranja drugog naloga?
Možete li mi, molim vas, reći da li ste prošli KYC verifikaciju na bilo kom od vaših naloga?
Da li su oba naloga kreirana sa istom imejl adresom?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Atila
Dear Player,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Have you contacted customer support before opening your second account?
Could you please advise if you have passed the KYC verification on either of your accounts?
Have both accounts been created with the same email address?
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Attila
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Dragi Atila,
Hvala vam što ste odvojili vreme da pregledate moju žalbu. Odgovoriću na vaša pitanja u nastavku i pružiti dodatne detalje kako bih u potpunosti objasnio situaciju.
1. Da li sam kontaktirao korisničku podršku pre otvaranja drugog naloga?
Ne, nisam kontaktirao korisničku podršku pre otvaranja drugog naloga. Moj originalni nalog je već bio zatvoren 10. jula i iskreno sam verovao da mogu da koristim novi nalog. Nisam otvorio drugi nalog sa namerom da zloupotrebim bonuse, lovim bonuse ili kršim pravila kazina.
Imam autizam, što može uticati na moje razumevanje složenih uslova i odredbi, ali nikada nije bilo namere da se kazino obmane ili stekne nepravedna prednost.
2. Da li sam završio KYC verifikaciju na bilo kom nalogu?
Na nalogu koji sam koristio, završio sam standardni proces verifikacije i primio sam imejl kojim se potvrđuje da je moj nalog verifikovan.
Nakon što sam zatražio isplatu, kazino me je kontaktirao tražeći da završim dodatni korak bezbednosne verifikacije. Nisam prošao verifikaciju; ovo je bio dodatni bezbednosni proces koji sam bio spreman da završim. Međutim, pre nego što sam uspeo da završim ovaj dodatni korak, kazino je uklonio moje stanje i obavestio me da se moji dobici poništavaju zbog problema sa dupliranim nalogom.
Takođe mi je menadžer u ćaskanju uživo rekao da duplikat naloga nije mogao biti otkriven dok se ne završi verifikacija. Međutim, verujem da je ovo važno jer je moj nalog već bio verifikovan i već sam dobio potvrdu o tome pre nego što je problem pokrenut.
3. Da li su oba naloga kreirana sa istom imejl adresom?
Ne, dva naloga su kreirana korišćenjem različitih imejl adresa.
Takođe bih želeo da objasnim vremensku liniju događaja, jer smatram da je to veoma važno.
Moj prvobitni nalog je zatvoren 10. jula. 16. jula sam koristio drugi nalog i nisu se pojavila nikakva upozorenja, ograničenja ili problemi u vezi sa promocijom. Uspeo sam da verifikujem svoj nalog, dobijem potvrdu da je verifikovan i da normalno koristim bonus.
Od besplatnih okretaja, osvojio sam približno 27 funti. Zatim sam nastavio da igram sa tim dobicima i ispunio uslove za klađenje bonusa. Nakon što je bonus u potpunosti isplaćen, nastavio sam da igram i povećao svoj saldo na 760 funti pre nego što sam zatražio isplatu.
Kazino nije uklonio stanje dok sam koristio bonus ili dok su se ispunjavali uslovi za klađenje. Problem sa duplim nalogom je pokrenut tek nakon što sam iskoristio bonus i igrao sa sredstvima. Otprilike 24 sata kasnije, kazino je uklonio moje stanje.
To je glavni razlog zašto verujem da je situacija nepravedno rešena. Ako je kazino verovao da postoji problem sa nalogom ili da nisam podoban za promociju, verujem da je to trebalo identifikovati i saopštiti pre nego što mi je bilo dozvoljeno da verifikujem, iskoristim bonus i nastavim da igram.
Takođe verujem da je važno da moj nalog ostane otvoren i dostupan za dalju igru i depozite nakon što je kazino odlučio da sam prekršio Uslove i odredbe. Ako je nalog smatran nevažećim, ne razumem zašto nije odmah zatvoren ili ograničen umesto da ostane dostupan.
Mogu da obezbedim snimke ekrana moje potvrde verifikacije, imejlova i razgovora uživo, uključujući razgovor sa menadžerom o tome kada bi duplikat naloga mogao biti otkriven.
Takođe bih želeo da istaknem da je kazino već bio svestan postojanja mog prethodnog naloga otprilike nedelju dana pre nego što se problem sa mojim dobicima dogodio. Uprkos tome, i dalje mi je bilo dozvoljeno da nastavim da koristim novi nalog, završim verifikaciju, pristupim promociji i igram bez ikakvog upozorenja ili ograničenja na nalogu. To je još jedan razlog zašto verujem da je situacija nepravedno rešena, jer problem nije rešen sve dok nisam pobedio i zatražio povlačenje novca.
Hvala vam još jednom što ste razmotrili moju žalbu. Cenim vaše vreme i nadam se da će se razmotriti kompletan vremenski okvir i dokazi.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Dear Attila,
Thank you for taking the time to review my complaint. I will answer your questions below and provide further details to explain the situation fully.
1. Before opening the second account, did I contact customer support?
No, I did not contact customer support before opening the second account. My original account had already been closed on 10 July, and I genuinely believed I was able to use the new account. I did not create the second account with the intention of abusing bonuses, bonus hunting, or breaching the casino rules.
I have autism, which can affect my understanding of complex terms and conditions, but there was never any intention to mislead the casino or gain an unfair advantage.
2. Did I complete KYC verification on either account?
On the account I used, I had completed the standard verification process and received an email confirming that my account was verified.
After I requested my withdrawal, the casino contacted me asking me to complete an additional security verification step. I had not failed verification; this was an extra security process that I was prepared to complete. However, before I was able to complete this additional step, the casino removed my balance and informed me that my winnings were being voided due to the duplicate account issue.
I was also told by a manager on live chat that the duplicate account could not be detected until after verification had been completed. However, I believe this is important because my account had already been verified and I had already received confirmation of this before the issue was raised.
3. Were both accounts created with the same email address?
No, the two accounts were created using different email addresses.
I would also like to explain the timeline of events, as I believe this is very important.
My original account was closed on 10 July. On 16 July, I used the other account and there were no warnings, restrictions, or issues shown regarding the promotion. I was able to verify my account, receive confirmation that it was verified, and use the bonus normally.
From the free spins, I won approximately £27. I then continued playing with those winnings and completed the bonus wagering requirements. After the bonus had been fully completed, I continued playing and increased my balance to £760 before requesting my withdrawal.
The casino did not remove the balance while I was using the bonus or while the wagering requirements were being completed. The duplicate account issue was only raised after I had completed the bonus and played with the funds. Approximately 24 hours later, the casino removed my balance.
This is the main reason I believe the situation was handled unfairly. If the casino believed there was an account issue or that I was not eligible for the promotion, I believe this should have been identified and communicated before allowing me to verify, complete the bonus, and continue playing.
I also believe it is important that my account was left open and available for further play and deposits after the casino decided I had breached the Terms and Conditions. If the account was considered invalid, I do not understand why it was not immediately closed or restricted instead of remaining available.
I can provide screenshots of my verification confirmation, emails, and live chat conversations, including the conversation with the manager regarding when the duplicate account could be detected.
I would also like to point out that the casino was already aware of the existence of my previous account approximately one week before the issue with my winnings occurred. Despite this, I was still allowed to continue using the new account, complete verification, access the promotion, and play without any warning or restriction being placed on the account. This is another reason why I believe the situation was handled unfairly, as the issue was not addressed until after I had won and requested my withdrawal.
Thank you again for reviewing my complaint. I appreciate your time and I hope the full timeline and evidence can be considered.
Best regards,
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Zdravo,
Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Možete li, molim vas, razjasniti vremenski okvir? Konkretno, da li je vaš nalog već bio potpuno verifikovan pre nego što ste zatražili bonus besplatnih okretaja ili ste zatražili bonus pre nego što je verifikacija završena?
Ako je moguće, navedite i datume i vreme potvrde verifikacije i aktivacije bonusa.
Unapred hvala na vašem odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Atila
Hello,
Thank you for your reply.
Could you please clarify the timeline? Specifically, had your account already been fully verified before you claimed the free spins bonus, or did you claim the bonus before the verification was completed?
If possible, please also provide the dates and times of the verification confirmation and the bonus activation.
Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Attila
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Zdravo Atila,
Hvala vam na poruci.
Moj nalog je već bio potpuno verifikovan pre nego što sam zatražio bonus besplatnih okretaja.
Vremenska linija je sledeća:
Verifikacija mog naloga je završena 10. jula 2026. godine.
Iskoristio/la sam i aktivirao/la bonus besplatnih okretaja 16. jula 2026. godine oko 20:00 časova.
Koliko ja razumem, bonus nije mogao biti zatražen ili korišćen dok moj nalog nije uspešno verifikovan. Pošto sam mogao da zatražim i odigram besplatne okrete, verovao sam da su svi uslovi za verifikaciju već ispunjeni.
Nažalost, sam bonus besplatnih okretaja se neće pojaviti u istoriji mog naloga, tako da ne mogu da pružim dokaz o tačnoj aktivaciji odatle. Zato ne mogu da pružim dokaz o aktivaciji bonusa iz istorije mog naloga.
Međutim, verifikacioni imejl potvrđuje da je moj nalog već bio verifikovan mnogo pre nego što sam zatražio i iskoristio bonus.
Priložiću dokaz koji pokazuje da je moj nalog u potpunosti verifikovan 10. jula 2026. godine, skoro nedelju dana pre nego što sam zatražio bonus. Ako pogledate datum imejla za verifikaciju, videćete da je poslat mnogo pre nego što je bonus aktiviran 16. jula.
Koliko ja razumem, bonus nije mogao biti zatražen ili korišćen dok moj nalog nije uspešno verifikovan. Pošto sam mogao da zatražim i odigram besplatne okrete, verovao sam da su svi uslovi za verifikaciju već ispunjeni.
Takođe sam priložio dokaz o mom zahtevu za povlačenje sredstava, koji je podnet nakon što sam završio bonus besplatnih okretaja i ispunio uslove za bonus.
To je jedan od razloga zašto verujem da je kazino postupio nepravedno. Već su završili moju verifikaciju i dozvolili mi da zatražim i koristim bonus. Tek nakon što sam pobedio i zatražio isplatu, moj dobitak je uklonjen zbog navodnog dupliranog naloga, iako je nalog već bio prethodno verifikovan.
Molim vas, obavestite me ako vam trebaju dodatne informacije ili dokazi.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Hello Attila,
Thank you for your message.
My account had already been fully verified before I claimed the free spins bonus.
The timeline is as follows:
My account verification was completed on 10th July 2026.
I claimed and activated the free spins bonus on 16 July 2026 at approximately 8:00 pm.
As I understand it, the bonus could not be claimed or used until my account had been successfully verified. Since I was able to claim and play the free spins, I believed all verification requirements had already been satisfied
Unfortunately, the free spins bonus itself will not appear in my account history, so I am unable to provide evidence of the exact activation from there.That is why I am unable to provide evidence of the bonus activation from my account history.
However, the verification email confirms that my account had already been verified well before I claimed and used the bonus.
I will attach proof showing that my account had been fully verified on 10 July 2026, almost a week before I claimed the bonus. If you look at the date of the verification email, you can see that it was sent well before the bonus was activated on 16 July.
As I understand it, the bonus could not be claimed or used until my account had been successfully verified. Since I was able to claim and play the free spins, I believed all verification requirements had already been satisfied.
I have also attached evidence of my withdrawal request, which was made after I had completed the free spins bonus and met the bonus requirements.
This is one of the reasons I believe the casino acted unfairly. They had already completed my verification and allowed me to claim and use the bonus. It was only after I won and requested a withdrawal that my winnings were removed due to an alleged duplicate account, despite the account having already been verified beforehand.
Please let me know if you require any further information or evidence.
Kind regards,
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Želeo bih da ažuriram žalbu najnovijim odgovorom Zizobeta od strane njihovog tima za žalbe.
Ovo je sada treći odgovor koji sam dobio od Zizobeta, i svaki odgovor je ponavljao istu opštu referencu na njihove Uslove i odredbe u vezi sa višestrukim nalozima. Međutim, nisu odgovorili na konkretna pitanja koja sam postavio u vezi sa vremenskom linijom događaja.
Moje glavne brige ostaju:
Moj nalog je verifikovan pre nego što je bonus besplatnih okretaja zatražen i iskorišćen.
Bilo mi je dozvoljeno da iskoristim promociju i nastavim da igram.
Navodno kršenje je preduzeto tek nakon što sam pobedio i zatražio povlačenje.
Zizobet nije objasnio kada su identifikovali navodni problem sa dupliranim nalogom niti zašto su nalog i bonus prethodno odobreni.
Pokušao sam da ovo rešim direktno sa Zizobetom, ali njihovi odgovori nisu odgovorili na ova pitanja.
I would like to update the complaint with Zizobet’s latest response from their complaints team.
This is now the third response I have received from Zizobet, and each response has repeated the same general reference to their Terms and Conditions regarding multiple accounts. However, they have not addressed the specific questions I raised regarding the timeline of events.
My main concerns remain:
My account was verified before the free spins bonus was claimed and used.
I was allowed to use the promotion and continue playing.
The alleged breach was only acted upon after I won and requested a withdrawal.
Zizobet has not explained when they identified the alleged duplicate account issue or why the account and bonus were allowed beforehand.
I have attempted to resolve this directly with Zizobet, but their responses have not addressed these points.
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Zdravo Atila,
Sada sam direktno eskalirao svoj slučaj kompaniji Zizobet i razgovarao sa menadžerom.
Menadžer je potvrdio da razume da je moj nalog verifikovan pre nego što sam zatražio bonus, ali je obavestio da njihova odluka ostaje nepromenjena. Takođe sam ponudio da pružim dodatne dokaze u vezi sa vremenski okvirom verifikacije za jedan poslednji pregled, ali su odbili i potvrdili da su već završili pregled.
Dodajem ovaj razgovor kao ažuriranje jer verujem da je relevantan za slučaj.
Hvala vam.
Hello Attila,
I have now escalated my case directly with Zizobet and spoke with a manager.
The manager confirmed they understand that my account had been verified before I claimed the bonus, but advised that their decision remains unchanged. I also offered to provide further evidence regarding the verification timeline for one final review, but they declined and confirmed they had already completed their review.
I am adding this conversation as an update because I believe it is relevant to the case.
Thank you.
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Zdravo,
Želeli bismo da vas obavestimo da smo, zbog toga što je Atila, vaš određeni rešavač sporova, na odmoru, odlučili da produžimo rok za dodatnih 7 dana. Pošto Atila ima detaljno razumevanje vaše situacije i održava direktnu komunikaciju sa kazinom, smatramo da je ovo produženje opravdano. Iskreno cenimo vaše strpljenje i uveravam vas da će vas Atila kontaktirati u najkraćem mogućem roku.
Hvala vam na razumevanju i kontinuiranom strpljenju.
Srdačan pozdrav, Kazino Guru
Hello,
We would like to update you that due to Attila, your designated resolver, being on vacation, we have opted to extend the timeline by an additional 7 days. Since Attila has an in-depth understanding of your situation and maintains direct communication with the casino, we find this extension justified. Your patience is sincerely appreciated, and I assure you that Attila will contact you at the earliest opportunity.
Thank you for your understanding and ongoing patience.
Best regards, Casino Guru
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Hvala vam na odgovoru i što ste pružili dodatne informacije. Možete li potvrditi da li ste uplatili sredstva pravog novca da biste aktivirali promociju? Pored toga, da li trenutno postoje neka ograničenja na vašem igračkom nalogu? Alternativno, da li vam je dozvoljeno da uplaćujete depozite, zahtevate bonuse i učestvujete u igranju? Da li je kazino takođe konfiskovao bilo kakva sredstva pravog novca?
Hvala vam na strpljenju i saradnji.
Thank you for your response and for providing the additional information. Could you please confirm whether you have deposited any real money funds to activate the promotion? Additionally, are there currently any restrictions on your player account? Alternatively, are you permitted to make deposits, claim bonuses, and engage in gameplay? Has the casino also confiscated any real money balances?
Thank you for your patience and cooperation.
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Zdravo Atila,
Hvala vam na poruci.
Mogu da potvrdim da nisam uplatio nikakva sredstva pravog novca da bih aktivirao promociju. Promocija je bila promocija bez depozita/besplatnih okretaja, a zatražio sam je koristeći promotivni kod nakon što je moj nalog već bio u potpunosti verifikovan.
Što se tiče trenutnog statusa mog naloga, kazino me nije obavestio da je moj nalog trajno zatvoren. Međutim, dobici/saldo su ručno uklonjeni, a kazino je izjavio da je moja mogućnost primanja bonusa suspendovana na neodređeno vreme.
Nisam mogao da utvrdim da li mi je trenutno dozvoljeno da uplaćujem depozite, koristim druge bonuse ili učestvujem u igrama, jer nisam pokušao to da učinim nakon odluke kazina i uklanjanja mog stanja.
Kazino jeste konfiskovao stanje koje sam akumulirao tokom promocije. Uklonjeni iznos je bio približno 760 funti. Ovo nije bio depozit pravog novca; sastojao se od dobitaka ostvarenih nakon zatraživanja i igranja promocije bez depozita/besplatnih okretaja.
Nadam se da je ovo razjasnilo situaciju. Molim vas, obavestite me ako vam trebaju dodatne informacije ili dokazi od mene.
Hi Attila,
Thank you for your message.
I can confirm that I did not deposit any real-money funds to activate the promotion. The promotion was a no-deposit/free-spins promotion, and I claimed it using the promotional code after my account had already been fully verified.
Regarding the current status of my account, the casino has not informed me that my account is permanently closed. However, the winnings/balance were manually removed, and the casino has stated that my ability to receive bonuses has been suspended indefinitely.
I have not been able to establish whether I am currently permitted to make deposits, claim other bonuses, or engage in gameplay, as I have not attempted to do so following the casino’s decision and the removal of my balance.
The casino did confiscate the balance that I had accumulated from the promotion. The amount removed was approximately £760. This was not a real-money deposit balance; it consisted of winnings generated after claiming and playing the no-deposit/free-spins promotion.
I hope this clarifies the situation. Please let me know if you need any further information or evidence from me.
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Dragi Atila,
Dobio/la sam dodatni odgovor od Zizobeta u vezi sa mojom žalbom.
Odbili su moj zahtev pozivajući se na svoju Politiku povraćaja novca, navodeći da povraćaj novca nije moguć ako su depoziti ili bonusi odigrani.
Međutim, smatram da ovo ne rešava stvarni problem u mojoj žalbi. Ne tražim povraćaj depozita ili nadoknadu sredstava koja sam izgubio tokom igre. Moja žalba se odnosi na ručno oduzimanje približno 760 funti sa mog novčanog stanja.
Ranije je Zizobet izjavio da je 760 funti konfiskovano zbog navodnog kršenja pravila o dupliranju naloga prema odeljcima 9 i 10 njihovih Uslova i odredbi. Njihov najnoviji odgovor sada se čini da se oslanja na njihovu Politiku povraćaja novca, bez objašnjenja kako ta politika ovlašćuje konfiskaciju mog gotovinskog stanja od 760 funti.
Možete li, molim vas, uzeti u obzir ovaj poslednji odgovor prilikom razmatranja slučaja?
Takođe bih cenio vaše mišljenje o tome da li je Zizobetova politika povraćaja novca zaista relevantna za konfiskaciju mog novčanog stanja, s obzirom da osporavam konfiskaciju umesto da zahtevam povraćaj depozita.
Sačuvao/la sam celu prepisku i mogu da pružim sve potrebne dodatne informacije ili snimke ekrana.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Dear Attila,
I have received a further response from Zizobet regarding my complaint.
They have rejected my request by referring to their Refund Policy, stating that a refund is unavailable if deposits or bonuses have been played.
However, I believe this does not address the actual issue in my complaint. I am not requesting a refund of a deposit or reimbursement of funds that I lost while playing. My complaint concerns the manual confiscation of approximately £760 from my cash balance.
Previously, Zizobet stated that the £760 was confiscated because of an alleged duplicate-account violation under Sections 9 and 10 of their Terms and Conditions. Their latest response now appears to rely on their Refund Policy instead, without explaining how that policy authorises the confiscation of my £760 cash balance.
Could you please take this latest response into consideration when reviewing the case?
I would also appreciate your view on whether Zizobet’s Refund Policy is actually relevant to the confiscation of my cash balance, given that I am disputing the confiscation rather than requesting a refund of a deposit.
I have retained the full correspondence and can provide any further information or screenshots required.
Kind regards,
[Redacted]
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Dragi igraču,
Hvala vam na dodatnim informacijama.
Nažalost, na osnovu dostavljenih informacija, nismo u mogućnosti da potvrdimo vašu žalbu. Dva naloga su registrovana korišćenjem različitih imejl adresa, a kazino je objasnio da duplirani nalozi ne mogu biti identifikovani dok se ne završi relevantni proces verifikacije. Na osnovu informacija koje su nam dostupne, ne možemo zaključiti da vam je kazino svesno dozvolio da koristite duplirani nalog kršeći njegova pravila pre nego što je problem identifikovan.
Štaviše, sporni iznos od 760 funti je u potpunosti potekao iz promocije bez depozita/besplatnih okretaja. Niste uplatili nikakav pravi novac da biste iskoristili promociju ili ostvarili ove dobitke. Pošto su sredstva došla iz besplatne promotivne ponude, ne možemo kazniti kazino zbog odluke da ne ispoštuje te promotivne dobitke. Generalno poštujemo odluke kazina u vezi sa njihovim promotivnim ponudama i njihovim uslovima za dobijanje. Ovaj stav je u skladu sa našom politikom nemešanja u odluke o promotivnim ponudama.
Za buduće potrebe, toplo preporučujemo otvaranje i korišćenje samo jednog naloga u svakom kazinu, jer posedovanje više naloga može dovesti do problema kao što je otkazivanje bonusa ili dobitaka.
Zbog gore navedenih razloga, sada ćemo odbaciti ovu žalbu. Hvala vam na razumevanju. Iskreno mi je žao što nismo bili u mogućnosti da vam efikasnije pomognemo u ovoj konkretnoj situaciji, jer uvek težimo da pomognemo igračima da reše svoje probleme kad god je to moguće.
Molimo vas da imate u vidu da nas možete ponovo kontaktirati ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti. Bilo da je u pitanju pitanje, nedoumica ili novi problem koji treba ispitati, naš tim je tu i spreman da vam pomogne.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Atila
Dear Player,
Thank you for the additional information.
Unfortunately, based on the information provided, we are unable to uphold your complaint. The two accounts were registered using different email addresses, and the casino has explained that duplicate accounts may not be identified until the relevant verification process is completed. Based on the information available to us, we cannot conclude that the casino knowingly allowed you to use a duplicate account in breach of its rules before the issue was identified.
Furthermore, the disputed £760 balance came entirely from a no-deposit/free-spins promotion. You did not deposit any real money to claim the promotion or generate these winnings. As the funds came from a free promotional offer, we cannot penalize the casino for deciding not to honor those promotional winnings. We generally respect casinos' decisions regarding their promotional offers and their eligibility requirements. This position is consistent with our policy of non-interference in promotional offer decisions.
For future reference, we strongly recommend opening and using only one account at each casino, as having multiple accounts can lead to issues such as the cancellation of bonuses or winnings.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, we will now proceed to reject this complaint. Thank you for your understanding. I am genuinely sorry that we were not able to assist you more effectively in this particular situation, as we always aim to help players resolve their issues whenever possible.
Please remember that you are welcome to contact us again if you run into any problems with this or any other casino in the future. Whether it is a question, a concern or a new issue that needs to be looked into, our team is here and ready to support you.
Best regards,
Attila
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