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04/11/2024
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The player from Austria faced account locking with Quick Win after winning 700 Euros, having successfully withdrawn prior wins. Despite verifying his account, he received notification that his account was locked and his winnings were confiscated, leaving him with only a refund of his initial stake. The Complaints Team clarified that the account was blocked due to the use of a payment method not solely registered to the player, which violated the casino's Terms and Conditions. As the player could not provide proof of legitimate ownership of the payment method used, the complaint was closed without further resolution.
Igrač iz Austrije se suočio sa zaključavanjem računa sa Kuick Vin nakon što je osvojio 700 evra, nakon što je uspešno povukao prethodne pobede. Uprkos verifikaciji svog naloga, primio je obaveštenje da mu je račun zaključan i da mu je dobitak konfiskovan, ostavljajući mu samo refundiranje početnog uloga. Tim za žalbe je pojasnio da je račun blokiran zbog upotrebe načina plaćanja koji nije registrovan samo na igrača, čime su prekršeni Uslovi i odredbe kazina. Pošto igrač nije mogao da pruži dokaz o legitimnom vlasništvu korišćenog načina plaćanja, žalba je zatvorena bez daljeg rešavanja.
Imam ozbiljan problem. Danas sam primio e-poštu u kojoj se navodi da je moj nalog sa Kuick Vin zaključan!
30. oktobra 2024. dobio sam 700 evra (početni ulog je bio 40 evra).
Pre ovoga, nikada nisam izgubio ništa značajno!
Hteo sam da ga odmah podignem putem bankovnog transfera (samo preko IBAN-a), što je ranije uvek funkcionisalo. Ranije sam imao dobitak od 400 evra i to mi je takođe isplaćeno.
Kada sam ovaj put pokušao da podignem 700 evra (500 evra, pošto više od toga nije dozvoljeno dnevno), iznenada sam dobio poruku da transfer nije mogao da se završi zbog problema u komunikaciji sa bankom. Kontaktirao sam ćaskanje uživo i rečeno mi je da to nije problem sa mojom bankom, već verovatno greška mrežne veze!
Zatim sam pokušao da koristim Skrill, i dan kasnije, obavešten sam da moram da verifikujem svoj nalog, što sam odmah i učinio. Sve je u moje ime!
Danas, 4. novembra 2024. u 16:00, primio sam e-poruku da je moj nalog zaključan i da su moji dobici nestali. Međutim, moj ulog od 40 evra će mi biti vraćen!
Ovo nije fer.
Ne, nisam prokockao novac. Imam dokaz!
Napravio sam mnogo fotografija svog naloga!
Srdačan pozdrav, Mario
Molim vas pomozite mi!!
Hello Dear Team,
I have a serious problem. Today I received an email stating that my account with Quick Win has been locked!
On October 30, 2024, I had a win of 700 Euros (initial stake was 40 Euros).
Before this, I never really lost anything significant!
I wanted to withdraw it immediately via bank transfer (only via IBAN), which had always worked before. I had a win of 400 Euros previously, and that was also paid out to me.
When I tried to withdraw 700 Euros this time (500 Euros, since more than that isn't allowed per day), I suddenly received a message saying the transfer couldn't be completed due to bank communication issues. I contacted live chat, and I was told it wasn't a problem with my bank, but likely a network connection error!
I then tried using Skrill, and a day later, I was informed that I needed to verify my account, which I did immediately. Everything is in my name!
Today, on November 4, 2024, at 4:00 PM, I received an email saying that my account has been locked and my winnings are gone. However, I will get my 40-Euro stake refunded!
This is not fair.
No, I have not gambled away the money. I have proof!
I took a lot of photos of my account!
Best regards, Mario
Please help me!!
Hallo Liebes Team,
und zwar habe ich ein großes Problem habe heute eine E Mail erhalten das ich bei Quik Win gesperrt wurde !
Ich hatte am 30.10.2024 einen Gewinn von 700 Euro (Eigeneinsatz 40 Euro)
vorher nie wirklich etwas verloren!!
Wollte es sofort auszahlen lassen per Bank Transfer (Nur per IBAN )was auch davor immer geklappt hat da hatte ich einen Gewinn von 400 Euro und die wurden mir auch ausbezahlt !!
Als ich mir jetzt wie gesagt die 700 Eueo ausbezahlen wollte (also 500 ) weil ja an einem Tag nicht mehr geht stand aufeinmal da können es nicht überweisen da es mir der Bank Komunikationsprobleme gibt hatte mich dann an den Live Chat gewandt die sagten mir das es nicht an meiner Bank liegt es dürfte eine Fehler von der Netzwerkverbinding sein !!!
Dann probierte ich es per Skrill und einen Tag später bekam ich die Info das ich meine Konto verifizieren muss was ich dann auch sofort machte alles läuft auf meinen Namen !!!
Und heute am 4.11.2024 um 16.00 bekam ich eine Mail das mein Konto gesperrt wurde!! und mein Gewinn weg ist und ich die 40 Eieo Einsatz zurücküberwisen bekomme !!!!
Das das
Und nein ich habe das Geld nicht mehr verspielt habe auch Beweise !!!
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli ovu žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Proverio sam uslove i odredbe KuickVin kazina, i evo šta sam našao pod pravilom 4.1:
4.1 Otvaranjem naloga na našoj veb stranici i korišćenjem naše veb stranice garantujete da:
delujete u svoje ime;
ste kompetentan građanin koji poštuje zakon;
nemate zavisnost od kockanja, ne koristite veb stranicu pod uticajem alkohola, droga ili drugih supstanci;
svi podaci i informacije koje ste dali prilikom registracije na našoj veb stranici su istiniti i stvarni i vi ćete nastaviti da ažurirate ove informacije u slučaju bilo kakvih promena;
u potpunosti razumete i prihvatate činjenicu da postoji mogućnost novčanog gubitka prilikom korišćenja naših usluga;
ne koristite novčana sredstva koja ste primili na nezakonit način ili iz nezakonitih izvora;
niste ušli u tajni dosluh i nećete pokušati da direktno ili indirektno dogovarate sa drugim korisnikom veb stranice;
kreditna/debitna kartica ili bilo koji drugi način plaćanja koji koristite za dopunu stanja na računu pripada vama, nije ukradena i nije izgubljena od strane druge osobe. Kompanija zadržava pravo da zatvori vaš nalog i poništi sve dobitke u slučaju osnovane sumnje da ste prekršili ovu garanciju.
Da li sam u pravu kada sam shvatio da ranije niste verifikovali svoj nalog, čak ni kada ste uspešno povukli sredstva, i da je ovo vaš prvi pokušaj da završite proces verifikacije?
Možete li navesti koje ste dokumente predali na verifikaciju? Da li je neki od vaših dokumenata odobren kao deo KIC procesa?
Da li ste akumulirali svoje dobitke koristeći bonus ili su dobijeni isključivo kroz regularnu igru?
Hvala vam na saradnji i nadam se da ćemo zajedno moći da rešimo ovaj problem uskoro.
Srdačan pozdrav
Veronika
Dear schambergerkerstin7,
Thank you very much for submitting this complaint. I'm sorry to hear about your problem. I have checked the Terms and Conditions of QuickWin Casino, and this is what I found under rule 4.1:
4.1 By opening an account on our Website and by using our Website you warrant that:
you are acting on your own behalf;
you are a competent and law-abiding citizen;
you do not have a gambling addiction, you don’t use the Website under the influence of alcohol, drugs or other substances;
all data and information that you have provided when registering at our Website is true and real and you will continue updating this information in case of any changes;
you fully understand and accept the fact that there is a possibility of monetary loss while using our services;
you are not using monetary funds that you have received in an illegal way or from illegal sources;
you have not entered into collusion and will not make an attempt to collude directly or indirectly with another customer of the Website;
the credit/debit card or any other payment method that you use to top up your account balance belongs to you, is not stolen, and has not been lost by another person. Company reserves the right to close your account and void any winnings in case of a reasonable suspicion that you have violated this warranty.
Am I correct in understanding that you had not verified your account previously, even when you made a successful withdrawal, and that this is your first attempt at completing the verification process?
Could you please specify which documents you submitted for verification? Were any of your documents approved as part of the KYC process?
Did you accumulate your winnings using a bonus, or were they obtained solely through regular gameplay?
Thank you for your cooperation, and I hope we can work together to resolve this matter soon.
Da, morao sam samo da se verifikujem nakon što sam osvojio 700 evra!
Nakon što sam koristio Skrill za povlačenje jer bankovni transfer nije funkcionisao jer je navodno bilo problema sa bankovnom komunikacijom. Pre toga sam dobio povlačenje od 400 bez provere.
-Morao sam da overim svoju vozačku dozvolu kao dokaz da sam to ja
(bilo prihvaćeno)
-Morao sam da verifikujem svoj bankovni račun
takođe je prihvaćeno
-Da, sve je bio pravi novac, nikad nisam igrao sa bonusom
Kada je ovo prihvaćeno, morao sam ponovo da pošaljem vozačku dozvolu sa selfijem. Kada sam to uradio, dan kasnije primio sam e-poštu u kojoj je pisalo da je moj nalog deaktiviran.
Moja supruga i ja smo igrali zajedno na mom nalogu, moguće je da je deaktiviran jer sam i ja uplatio depozite sa njenog računa (imamo partnerski račun)
Ono što i moja žena zna
Isplate su vršene samo na moj račun.
Tokom verifikacije poslao sam obe kartice računa na kojima su izvršeni depoziti i isplate.
Hteo sam da pošaljem i fotografiju supruge sa karticom kao dokaz, ali to se nažalost nije desilo...
Ali kao što sam rekao, nismo ništa razmišljali o tome jer smo koristili obe naše kartice računa za našu prvu pobedu (koju smo takođe dobili), tako da to nije bio problem.
Mogu vam poslati i fotografiju moje žene sa bankovnom karticom.
Tako da vide da je znala.
LGS.
Hello, thank you very much for the quick reply,
Yes, I only had to verify myself after winning 700 euros!
After I used Skrill for the withdrawal because the bank transfer didn't work because there were supposedly problems with the bank communication. Before that I had received a withdrawal of 400 without verification.
-I had to verify my driving license as proof that it was me
(was accepted)
-I had to verify my bank account
was also accepted
-yes it was all real money, I never played with a bonus
When this was accepted I had to send my driving license again with a selfie. When I did this I received an email a day later saying that my account had been deactivated.
My wife and I played together on my account, it could be that it was deactivated because I also made deposits from her account (we have a partnership account)
What my wife also knows
Payouts were only made to my account.
During verification I sent both account cards where the deposits and withdrawals were made.
I also wanted to send a photo of my wife with the card as proof, but unfortunately that didn't happen...
But as I said, we didn't think anything of it because we used both of our account cards for our first win (which we also got paid out), so it wasn't a problem.
I can also send you a photo of my wife with the bank card.
So they can see that she knew.
LGS.
Hallo vielen lieben Dank für die schnelle Antwort,
ja habe mich erst nach den Gewinn von 700 Euro verifizieren müssen !
Nachdem ich Skrill für die Auszahlung genommen habe da es mit dem Bank Transfer nicht geklappt hat da es angeblich Probleme mit der Bank-Kommunikation gab.Davor hatte ich eine Auszahlung von 400 bekommen ohne Verifizierung.
-Verifizieren musste ich meinen Führeschein als Nachweis das ich es bin
(wurde angenommen)
-Mein Bankonto musste ich verifizieren
wurde auch angenommen
-ja war alles Echtgeld habe nie mit Bonus gespielt
Als dies angenommen wurde musste ich nochmals meinen Führeschein mit einem Selfie senden als ich dies dann machte bekam ich einen Tag später die Mail das mein Konto deaktiviert wurde
Ich und meine Frau spielten gemeinsam bei meinem Konto kann es sein das es deswegen deaktiviert wurde weil ich Einzahlungen auch von Ihrem Konto gemacht habe (wir haben ein Partnerschaftskonto)
Was meine Frau wie gesagt auch weis
Auszahlungen wurden nur an mein Konto gemacht .
Habe bei der Verifizierung beide Kontokarten gesendet wo die Einzahlungen und Auszahlung getätigt wurden.
Wollte auch als Beweis ein Foto meiner Frau mit der Karte senden aber dazu kam es leider nicht mehr ..
Aber wie gesagt wir dachten uns nichts dabei weil wir auch bei unserem 1 Gewinn (was wir auch aisbezahlt bekamen) alle beide Kontokarten benutzt haben da war es auch kein Problem.
Ich kann Ihnen gerne auch ein Foro meiner Frau mit der Kontokarte senden.
Ono što ja, ili mi, uopšte ne razumemo je da od početka nije bio problem što smo uplaćivali i karticu moje žene.
I kao što sam rekao, već sam dobio isplatu od 400 Eueo iako su znali da je sa drugog računa.
Mislim da je problem što sam igrao samo 40 evra i onda zaradio. Nisam više igrao i verovatno im se to nije dopalo.
jer tada kazino pravi gubitak.
Nadam se da nam možete pomoći.
Srdačan pozdrav
What I, or we, don't understand at all is that from the beginning it was not a problem that we also made deposits using my wife's card.
And as I said, I had already received the payout of 400 Eueo even though they knew it was from a different account.
I think the problem is that I only played 40 euros and then made a profit. I didn't play any more and they probably didn't like that.
because then the casino makes a loss.
I hope you can help us .
Very best regards
Was ich bzw .wir überhaupt nicht verstehen das es von Angang an kein Problem war das wir auch Einzahlungen von meiner Frau Ihre Karte getätigt haben.
Und wie schon gesagt habe auch vorher schon die Auszahlung von 400 Eueo bekommen obwohl die wussten das es anderes Konto war .
Ich glaube das Problem ist das ich nur 40 Euro gespielt habe dann einen Gewinn erzielt habe ich nicht weitergespielt habe und das wird denen nicht gepasst haben ..
Kao što tačno pretpostavljate, vaš nalog je blokiran jer ste deponovali na svoj kazino račun sa karticom koja pripada vašoj ženi. Žao mi je, ali ovo je protivno odredbama i uslovima KuickVin kazina, posebno ovim pravilom:
kreditna/debitna kartica ili bilo koji drugi način plaćanja koji koristite za dopunu stanja na računu pripada vama, nije ukradena i nije izgubljena od strane druge osobe. Kompanija zadržava pravo da zatvori vaš nalog i poništi sve dobitke u slučaju osnovane sumnje da ste prekršili ovu garanciju.
„Za depozite i isplate, trebalo bi da koristite samo bankovne račune i kreditne karticekoje se drže na svoje ime. Ako to ne uradite, mogli biste upasti u nevolje kada pokušavate da izvršite povlačenje. Ovo pravilo je uglavnom na snazi da spreči kredit. zloupotrebe kartica, kao i zbog međunarodnih propisa protiv pranja novca".
Imajte na umu da je u vašem slučaju prekršeno pravilo u vezi sa vlasništvom nad nalogom. Iako neka kazina povremeno dozvoljavaju izuzetke, kao što je korišćenje zajedničke kartice, postoji važna razlika između zajedničkog bankovnog računa (sa dva različita vlasnika kartice) i zajedničke kartice izdate za dve osobe. Svi izuzeci obično moraju biti jasno saopšteni i prethodno odobreni od strane kazina.
Vredi napomenuti da je verifikacija pravog vlasnika načina plaćanja tokom depozita tehnički izazovna i obično nije moguća sve do faze verifikacije naloga, koja se često dešava kada se zahteva značajno povlačenje. Stoga je odgovornost igrača da osigura da koriste samo dozvoljene načine plaćanja koji su isključivo registrovani na njih. Ako niste u mogućnosti da dokažete da ste legitimni vlasnik načina plaćanja i niste dobili odobrenje od kazina koji dozvoljava da koristite metod plaćanja treće strane, bojim se da ne možemo mnogo da uradimo za vas.
Ova žalba će sada biti zatvorena. Hvala vam na razumevanju, žao mi je što ovom prilikom nismo mogli više pomoći. Ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako u budućnosti naiđete na probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom.
Srdačan pozdrav
Veronika
Dear schambergerkerstin7,
As you correctly assume, your account was blocked because you deposited into your casino account with a card that belongs to your wife. I am sorry but this is against the Terms and Conditions of QuickWin Casino, specifically this rule:
the credit/debit card or any other payment method that you use to top up your account balance belongs to you, is not stolen, and has not been lost by another person. Company reserves the right to close your account and void any winnings in case of a reasonable suspicion that you have violated this warranty.
"For deposits and withdrawals, you should only use bank accounts and credit cards held in your own name. If you don't do this, you might get into trouble when trying to make a withdrawal. This rule is mostly in place to prevent credit card misuse and also because of international anti-money-laundering regulations."
Please understand that in your instance, the rule regarding account ownership has been breached. While some casinos may occasionally permit exceptions, such as using a joint card, there is an important distinction between a joint bank account (with two different cardholders) and a joint card issued for two individuals. Any exceptions usually need to be clearly communicated and pre-approved by the casino.
It’s worth noting that verifying the true owner of a payment method during deposit is technically challenging and typically isn’t possible until the account verification stage, which often takes place when a significant withdrawal is requested. Therefore, it’s the player’s responsibility to ensure they use only permitted payment methods that are solely registered to them.If you’re not able to prove that you are a legitimate owner of the payment method and you haven’t received approval from the casino allowing you to use a third-party payment method, I’m afraid there’s not much we can do for you.
This complaint will now be closed. Thank you for your understanding, I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
Best regards
Veronika
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