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The player from Australia had won prizes on "Wheel of Fortune" bonus spins at Richard Casino. However, the casino denied the wins and refused to acknowledge the relevant screenshots provided by the player. She had sought assistance in understanding the casino's response. The player provided further details and screenshots to support her claim, which prompted the Complaints Team to invite the casino representative into the conversation. The casino thoroughly reviewed the user's issue again and eventually offered compensation to the player. The player accepted the offer, leading to the successful resolution of the complaint.
Igrač iz Australije je osvojio nagrade na "Vheel of Fortune" bonus spinovima u Richard Casinu. Međutim, kazino je negirao pobede i odbio je da prizna relevantne snimke ekrana koje je dao igrač. Tražila je pomoć da razume odgovor kazina. Igračica je pružila dodatne detalje i snimke ekrana kako bi podržala svoju tvrdnju, što je navelo Tim za žalbe da pozove predstavnika kazina u razgovor. Kazino je ponovo detaljno pregledao problem korisnika i na kraju ponudio nadoknadu igraču. Igrač je prihvatio ponudu, što je dovelo do uspešnog rešavanja žalbe.
Zdravo, uplatio sam 3 k 30 dolara u Richard casino i oni su došli sa bonusom na "Vheel of Fortune". Vrtio sam "Tajnu nagradu". Kada sam pokušao da ga zatražim preko podrške, rekli su mi da ga nema i da dam snimak ekrana pobedničke stranice. Bilo je nemoguće da dam snimak ekrana jer sam već napustio stranicu. Tog dana sam uplatio 3 puta, svaki put kada sam zatražio isti bonus spin. 1. okretanje Osvojio sam tajnu nagradu, 2. okretanje osvojio sam 175 besplatnih okretaja, 3. okret ponovo osvojio sam tajnu nagradu!!. Ovog puta sam dobio snimak ekrana iskačućeg prozora koji pokazuje moju pobedu i kako da je zatražim. Odbili su da ispoštuju moju nagradu i nakon 2 nedelje istrage vratili su se i rekli da nisam osvojio ništa!! Ostatak mejla nisam ni razumeo. Uključujem i mejl koji mi je poslat iz kazina, možda neko može da mi pomogne da razumem šta oni misle. Takođe ću uključiti snimak ekrana moje pobede itd. Može li mi neko pomoći sa ovim problemom? Pogrešno je što mi uskraćuju nagradu posebno kada imam dokaz i dokaz se pojavljuje SAMO na ekranu kada ste pobedili. Hvala vam što ste slušali i nadam se da ćemo se uskoro čuti.
Ivette
Zdravo, pokušao sam nekoliko puta da otpremim neke snimke ekrana i nije uspelo, imate li savet?
Hi, I deposited 3 x $30 at Richard casino & they came with a Bonus spin on "Wheel of Fortune". I spun the "Secret prize". When I tried to claim it through support they told me it wasn't there & to provide a screenshot of the winning page. It was impossible 4 me to provide a screenshot because I had left the page already. That day I deposited 3 time's, each time I claimed the same bonus spin. 1st spin I won Secret Prize, 2nd spin I won 175 Free spins, 3rd spin again I won the secret prize!!. This time I did get a screenshot of the pop-up window showing my win & how to claim it. They refused to honour my prize's & After 2 weeks of investigations they came back saying I had not won anything!! The rest of the email I didn't even understand. I'm including the email sent to me from the casino maybe someone can help me understand what they mean. I will also include a screenshot of my win etc. Can anyone help me with this issue? It is wrong that they are denying me my prize's especially when I have proof & the proof ONLY appears on the screen when U have won. Thank you for listening & I hope to hear back soon.
Yvette
Hi I have tried a couple of time's to upload some screenshots & it failed, any advice?
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Možete li, molim vas, proslediti relevantnu komunikaciju ili snimke ekrana zajedno sa istorijom vaše igre petronela.k@casino.guru ?
U međuvremenu, pogledajte naš članak koji objašnjava „Kako se programiraju slot mašine" i možda će vam pomoći da razumete kako serveri komuniciraju sa igračima i koji problemi se mogu pojaviti na putu.
Imajte na umu da bez ikakvih potkrepljujućih dokaza ne možemo da nastavimo dalje sa ovim slučajem jer bi bilo skoro nemoguće suočiti se sa kazinom.
Radujemo se Vašem odgovoru. Hvala unapred na saradnji i razumevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear gazvet2014,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Could you please forward any relevant communication or screenshots along with your game history to petronela.k@casino.guru?
Meanwhile, please check our article explaining "How slot machines are programmed" and maybe it’ll help to understand how servers communicate with players and what issues might occur on the way.
Please understand, that without any supporting evidence, we can’t proceed further with this case as it would be close to impossible to confront the casino.
Looking forward to hearing from you. Thank you in advance for your cooperation and understanding.
Učitavam 3 snimka ekrana, na prvom samo prikazuje Vheel of Fortune pre aktivacije, tako da možete videti gde je sve pozicionirano.
Drugi je poslednji razgovor koji su mi poslali kada je istraga završena, u kom su me obavestili da oba puta nisam dobio ništa.
Veoma je zbunjujuće za čitanje.
Treći je snimak ekrana koji sam napravio prilikom trećeg okretanja na Točku sreće, ovo je iskačući prozor koji se pojavljuje kada osvojite nagradu, sa dugmetom koje vas vodi do podrške. Prikazuje se tek nakon što osvojite tajni poklon/nagradu.
Žao nam je što su fotografije pomešane u tom redosledu!.
Imam neke snimke ekrana početnih razgovora koje sam imao sa njima, samo me obavestite ako želite da vidite detalje.
Puno hvala Ivet...
Hi thanks for responding so quickly much appreciated.
I'm uploading 3 screenshots 1st one just shows the Wheel of Fortune before activation so you can see where everything is positioned.
2nd one is the last conversation they sent me once investigation was completed, informing me I had won nothing both times.
It is very confusing to read.
Third one is the screenshot I captured on my 3rd spin on the Wheel of Fortune, this is the pop-up that appears once you have won the prize, with the button that takes you to support. It only shows after you have won the secret gift/prize.
Sorry the photos got mixed up in there order!.
I have some screenshots of the initial conversations I had with them just let me know if you want to view the details.
Zdravo još jednom, šaljem vam neke razgovore koje sam snimio u trenutku kada se ovo dogodilo, kao i e-poruku koju sam upravo dobio sa objašnjenjem zašto ništa nisam osvojio. Ako možete da razumete bilo koji od ova dva imejla, mnogo ste bolji od mene!!.
Ako pažljivo pročitate razgovore, oni se stalno pozivaju na moje dobitke i da će oni biti pripisani na moj račun što je pre moguće nakon istrage. Ni u jednom trenutku niko nije rekao da je moguće da „tajna nagrada" bude nula dobitak. Ne razumem u potpunosti poslednja 2 e-poruka, ali koliko ja razumem, izgleda da kažu 2 različite stvari
Mislim da njihova izreka da tajna nagrada na točku sreće može biti "prazna pobeda" ili nagrada?. Nigde ne piše da je tako. Ako pogledate točak sreće, on svakom prostoru pokazuje nagradu, uključujući i prostor za „bez pobede". Zašto bi "tajni poklon ili nagrada" imala skriveno "bez pobede", to je jedino na volanu i jasno piše "POKLON" ili "NAGRADA" i oni moju pobedu nazivaju "pobedom" tokom razgovora.
Koliko god puta sam pitao, nisam mogao da saznam nikakve informacije o tajnoj nagradi jer mi niko nije rekao koja bi nagrada bila ponuđena u slučaju udaranja/sletanja na tajni poklon deo točka.
Takođe su spomenuli nešto o tome da obaveštenje o pobedi ne dolazi odmah??. Mogu vam reći 100% da se pojavio na ekranu čim je okretanje oba puta završeno.
Pratio sam njihova pravila, platio sam bonus okretanje na točku, a onda kada sam pobedio rečeno mi je da je tajni poklon prazan dobitak!!!.
Ako biste mogli, molim vas, pokušajte da dođete do dna ovoga, bio bih vam neizmerno zahvalan.
Ako imate bilo kakvih pitanja, rado ću odgovoriti na njih.
Dolaze dva nedavna e-poruka, samo moram prvo da ih snimim ekranom.
Srdačan pozdrav
Ivette
Hello again, I'm sending you some conversations that I screenshot at the time this happened, as well as an email I just received explaining why I haven't won anything. If you can understand either of these two emails your much better than me!!.
If you carefully read through the conversations they keep referring to my winnings and that they will be credited to my account ASAP after investigation. At no time did anyone say that it was possible for the "secret prize" to be a zero win. I don't completely understand the last 2 emails but to the best of my understanding they seem to say 2 different things
I think their saying that the secret prize on the wheel of fortune can be an "empty win" or a prize?. Nowhere does it say that is the case. If you look at the wheel of fortune it shows every space a prize, including a space for "no win". Why would the "secret gift or prize" have a hidden "no win", it's the only one on the wheel and it clearly states "GIFT" Or "PRIZE" & They refer to my win as "Winnings" throughout the conversations.
As many times as I asked I couldn't find out any information about the secret prize as no one would tell me what prize's would be offered in the case of hitting/landing on the secret gift section of the wheel.
They also mentioned something about the notification of the win not coming up straight away??. I can tell you 100% it did appear on screen as soon as the spin was completed both times.
I followed their rule's, I paid for the bonus spins on the wheel, then when I won I'm told the secret gift is a empty win!!!.
If you could please try to get to the bottom of this I would appreciate it immensely.
If you have any questions I'm happy to answer them.
Two recent emails to come I just need to screenshot them first.
Hvala puno, gazvet2014, što ste dali sve potrebne informacije. Vašu žalbu ću sada preneti kolegi Branislavu ( branislav.b@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti u pomoći. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, gazvet2014, for providing all the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Branislav (branislav.b@casino.guru) who will be at your assistance. I wish you the best of luck and hope to see your problem being resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Žao mi je što čujem za vaše neprijatno iskustvo i izvinjavam se zbog kašnjenja (slobodnih dana). Kontaktiraću kazino i potrudiću se da rešim problem što je pre moguće. Sada bih želeo da pozovem predstavnika kazina da se pridruži ovom razgovoru i učestvuje u rešavanju ove žalbe.
Dragi Richard Casino timu ,
Možete li nam dati detaljnije objašnjenje situacije igrača?
Možete li mi dati konkretne odredbe i uslove za dotičnu promociju ako ih ima ili link do njih kako bih to mogao da proverim? Da li je negde jasno naznačeno da „Tajna nagrada" može biti ništa/nula?
Možete li nekako da dokažete da je moguće da „Tajna nagrada" ne može biti ništa, a da su igrači o tome obavešteni? Takođe, kako kazino sazna koja je nagrada ako je neko osvoji? Da li je moguće dati neko objašnjenje i potvrdu sa više detalja za ovaj konkretan slučaj?
Ako postoji takva opcija, kako slučajni igrač koji je osvojio „Tajnu nagradu" može da proveri da nije bilo ništa? Ovako, čini se da bi kazino mogao da tvrdi da nije bilo ničega čak i da postoji prava nagrada.
I am sorry to hear about your unpleasant experience, and I am sorry for the delay (days off). I will contact the casino and try my best to resolve the issue as soon as possible. Now I would like to invite the casino representative to join this conversation and participate in the resolution of this complaint.
Dear Richard Casino team,
Could you please provide us with an explanation of the player's situation in more detail?
Can you provide me with specific terms and conditions for the promotion in question if there are any or a link to them so I can check it? Is it clearly specified anywhere that the "Secret Prize" can be nothing/zero?
Can you somehow prove that it is possible that the "Secret Prize" can be nothing, and that the players are informed about it? Also, how does the casino find out what is the prize if anyone wins it? Is it possible to provide us with any explanation and confirmation with more details for this specific case?
If there is such an option, how can a random player who won a "Secret Prize" check that there was really nothing? Like this, it seems the casino could claim there was nothing even if there was a real prize.
Feel free to send the necessary supporting evidence to my email address (branislav.b@casino.guru).
Thank you in advance for providing the information.
Hvala vam što ste nas obavestili u vezi sa ovom žalbom.
Naš tim aktivno radi na rešavanju ove žalbe, međutim, potrebno nam je malo više vremena da pružimo sveobuhvatan odgovor.
Razumemo važnost ovog zahteva i u potpunosti smo posvećeni obezbeđivanju tačnih i detaljnih informacija. Naš cilj je da vam pružimo najbolje moguće rešenje koje zadovoljava i vaše i potrebe igrača.
Budite sigurni da nam ova žalba ostaje glavni prioritet i da smo posvećeni tome da je rešimo što je pre moguće.
Nadamo se vašem razumevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Richard Casino tim
Dear Branislav,
Thank you for notifying us regarding this complaint.
Our team is actively working on addressing this complaint, nevertheless, we require a bit more time to provide a comprehensive response.
We understand the importance of this request and are fully committed to ensuring that we deliver accurate and thorough information. Our goal is to provide you with the best possible solution that meets both your and the player's needs.
Please rest assured that this complaint remains a top priority for us, and we are dedicated to resolving it as soon as possible.
Zdravo, pre svega hvala vam što se držite ove žalbe, jedno od problema koje imam je činjenica da Nigde u svojim pravilima ne stoji da će vam osvajanje tajne nagrade samo dati veće šanse.
I kada se to desilo rekli su mi da se ova situacija NIKADA RANIJE NIJE DESILA.. Kakva situacija?? Očigledno je da je na njihovoj strani postojao problem koji nisu voljni da elaboriraju.
Druga stvar je da mi je rečeno da je izuzetno REtko da rezultat tajne nagrade bude ništa, s obzirom na činjenicu da sam je osvojio dva puta u jednom satu, pretpostavili biste da postoji nagrada!?!. Zaista verujem da je bilo nekog problema na njihovoj strani i dobijam truli kraj štapa!!.
Šaljem vam 2 snimka ekrana mog razgovora sa njima koji mi se čine kontradiktornim.
Rečeno mi je putem e-pošte da svako okretanje može dovesti do situacije nulte pobede. Podrška mi je tada rekla da ono na šta stignete dobijate tu nagradu 100%... Nijedna od njihovih informacija nije jasna i rečeno mi je ili nešto drugačije ili dobijam mejlove koji se čitaju kao zagonetka!!.
Igranje je zamišljeno da bude nešto prijatno i zabavno, čak i za oslobađanje od stresa. Za mene je ovo bila noćna mora. U najmanju ruku je smešno da kazino ide ovako da ne isplati 2 pobede. Samo se nadam da će na kraju učiniti pravu stvar.
Ovaj imejl mi je bio potpuna zagonetka??
Ovaj razgovor dokazuje da je na njihovoj strani bilo problema.
Ovo pokazuje da je veoma retko ne osvojiti nagradu. Takođe mi kažu da je svaka nagrada na točku ono što osvojiš. U prethodnoj e-poruci su mi rekli da „svako okretanje može rezultirati nultom dobitkom".
Na kraju nisu hteli da mi kažu šta se desilo i morao sam samo da verujem u sve što su rekli... Mislim da to nije u redu ili FER PLAI!!!.
Veoma sam zadovoljan svim radom i vremenom koje ste posvetili mom slučaju, bili ste FANTASTIČNI i veoma strpljivi sa mnom!!
Hvala vam.
Hi there, First of all thank you for sticking with this complaint, one of the issues I have is the fact that Nowhere does it state in their rules that winning the secret prize will only give you a better chance.
Also when this happened they stated to me that this situation had NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.. What situation?? Clearly there was a problem on their end which they are not willing to elaborate on.
Another point is I was told that it is extremely RARE that the outcome of the secret prize would be nothing, given the fact that I won it twice in one hour you would assume there to be a prize!?!. I really believe that there was some sort of issue on their end and I'm getting the rotten end of the stick!!.
I'm sending you 2 screenshots of my conversation with them which to me seems contradictory.
I was told via email every spin could result in a zero win situation. Support then told me that what you land on you get that prize 100%... None of their information is clear & I'm told either something different or I receive emails that read like a riddle!!.
Gaming is meant to be something enjoyable & fun, even stress relieving. For me this has been a nightmare. For a casino to go to these lengths to not pay out 2 wins is ridiculous to say the least. I just hope they do the right thing in the end.
This email was a complete riddle to me??
This conversation proves there was a problem on their end.
These show that it is very rare to not win a prize. Also they tell me that infact every prize on the wheel is what you win. In a previous email they told me that "every spin could result in a zero winnings situation ".
In the end they wouldn't tell me what happened and I had to just believe everything they said... I don't think that's right or FAIR PLAY!!!.
Very happy with all the work & time you guys have dedicated to my case, you have been FANTASTIC & very patient with me !!
Možete li nam dati više detalja o ponuđenoj naknadi?
Ako postoji razlog zašto niste ranije javno odgovorili sa svim detaljima, slobodno mi javite kako zamišljate dalje. Ako vam više odgovara, koristite moj mejl ( branislav.b@casino.guru ).
Dear Richard Casino team,
Can you please provide us with more details about the offered compensation?
If there is a reason why you did not reply with all the details before publicly, feel free to let me know how you imagine further proceeding. If it suits you better, use my email (branislav.b@casino.guru).
Pre svega, želimo da vas obavestimo da smo uspešno postigli kompromis sa kupcem u vezi sa nastalom situacijom. Sa naše strane, učinili smo sve što smo mogli da ona bude zadovoljna. Obezbedili smo joj besplatni gotovinski bonus, besplatne okrete i besplatno okretanje Vheel of Fortune (poslali smo vam transkript ćaskanja sa klijentom putem e-pošte).
Drugo, uzdržali smo se od javnog odgovora, kao što je naznačeno u vašoj e-poruci u kojoj ste spomenuli: „Pošto nisam siguran kako zamišljate dalje dalje ili koje informacije mogu da se javno dele sa igračem, označiću svoj post kao 'osetljiv', tako da skriveno od javnosti". Stoga smo odlučili da vas obavestimo putem e-pošte o rešenju pre nego što rešimo žalbu na forumu.
Obavestite nas ako su vam potrebne dodatne informacije.
Srdačan pozdrav,
RichardCasino
Hello Branislav,
First of all, we want to inform you, that we have successfully reached a compromise with the customer regarding the situation occured. On our end, we did everything we could to keep her satisfied. We provided her with a free cash bonus, free spins, and a free Wheel of Fortune spin (we have sent you a chat transcript with the client via email).
Secondly, we refrained from replying publicly, as indicated in your email where you mentioned, "Since I am not sure how you imagine further proceeding or what information can be shared with the player publicly, I will mark my post as 'sensitive', so hidden from the public". Hence, we decided to inform you via email about the solution before resolving the complaint on the forum.
Please let us know, if you need any further information.
Iako je to malo nekonvencionalan način, na osnovu svih dodatnih detalja koje daje kazino, u suštini nemam drugu opciju osim da zatvorim slučaj kao uspešno rešen i da ga u skladu sa tim označim u našem sistemu.
Poštovani gazvet2014,
Hvala vam što koristite centar za rešavanje žalbi Casino Guru. Veoma mi je drago da je problem rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo. Pošto niste odgovorili već duže vreme, dok ste pre nekoliko dana uspeli sami da rešite problem sa korisničkom podrškom kazina, nema razloga da žalbu ostanete otvorenom.
Ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate u budućnosti ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom. Tu smo da pomognemo.
U slučaju bilo kakvih neslaganja između ishoda žalbe i stvarnosti, slobodno me kontaktirajte na branislav.b@casino.guru .
Hvala, Richard Casino tim, na pomoći i saradnji. Odličan posao!
Srdačan pozdrav,
Branislav, Casino.guru
Greetings all again,
What great news!
Although it is a bit unconventional way, based on all the additional details provided by the casino, I have basically no other option than to close the case as successfully resolved and mark it accordingly in our system.
Dear gazvet2014,
Thank you for using the Casino Guru complaint resolution centre. I am very glad the issue has been resolved to your satisfaction. Since you have not responded for a significant time, while you managed to solve the issue yourself with the casino customer support a few days ago, there is no reason to keep the complaint open.
Please do not hesitate to contact us in the future if you run into any issues with this or any other casino. We are here to help.
In case of any discrepancies between the outcome of the complaint and the reality, feel free to contact me at branislav.b@casino.guru.
Thank you, Richard Casino Team, for your help and cooperation. Great job!
Best regards,
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