Od igrača iz Kanade se traži da izvrši dodatno ulaganje deponovanih sredstava.
Napravio sam početni depozit od 400$ pravog novca sa 130% bonusa na prvi depozit u kazino meču u ukupnom iznosu od 520$ bonus novca sa 50k rollover (pravi novac + bonus) ukupno 46k potrebnog igranja da završim PONUDU DOBRODOŠLI.
Nakon toga sam izgubio sav pravi novac kao i bonus novac i napravio još 4 depozita od 400$ samo pravog novca. Sredstva su bila isključivo moja i kampanja je završena. Nikada nije postojala opcija za otkazivanje bonusa, kao što je navedeno u klauzuli 10 u Uslovima i odredbama za kazino dobrodošlice (pogledajte u prilogu).
Radio sam high roller spinove sa sopstvenim novcem i nije bilo bonus sredstava za korišćenje. Na moje apsolutno zaprepaštenje, čak navode da se „prvo koristi pravi iznos novca, a zatim sa iznosom bonusa". Iz nekog razloga, moja sredstva su zaglavljena u bonus novcu i nema ništa u stvarnom novcu. Napravio sam svoj bilans na 7500 dolara koristeći NULA BONUS NOVCA. Pre toga, izgubio sam prvi depozit od 400 dolara, kao i bonus od 520 dolara direktno povezan samo sa ponudom dobrodošlice. Nisu dovoljno automatizovani da bi razumeli da su uslovi i odredbe bonusa završeni pošto sam napravio još depozita i nije bilo preostalih bonus sredstava ili sredstava za početni depozit... kako se ovo dešava. Zašto ako uložim dodatna sredstva nakon što ne postignem ukupni iznos dobrodošlice, i dalje bih morao da ispunim uslove za opkladu... u ovoj fazi nema korelacije osim ako u svojim Uslovima i uslovima ne navedu da se preokretanje računa na sve depozite.
Ovo treba ispraviti. Ovo je moj novac koji sam zaradio nakon depozita od $400 bez bafera od bonus sredstava. U prilogu, napravio sam depozit od 100 dolara da vidim gde će ići i ide pravo na „pravi novac". Kada se kladite, uzima se direktno iz pravog novca (takođe u prilogu). Ovo je ili krivo, pogrešno ili samo apsolutno loša automatizacija. Da ponovim, nije bilo opcije da se bonus otkaže u bilo kom trenutku i njihov ćaskanje uživo nikada nije na mreži.
Imam još fotografija koje bih želeo da podelim. Molim te, ne dozvoli im da varaju ovde.
I made an initial $400 real money deposit with a 130% first deposit bonus casino match totaling $520 of bonus money with 50x rollover (real money + bonus) totaling 46k of needed play through to complete the WELCOME OFFER.
I subsequently lost all of the real money as well as the bonus money and made 4 more $400 deposits of just real money. The funds were exclusively mine and the campaign was over. There was never an option to cancel the bonus, like they state in clause 10 in the welcome casino T&Cs (please see attached).
I was doing high roller spins with my own money and there were no bonus funds to use. To my absolute dismay they even state that "Real money amount is used first and then with the bonus amount." For some reason, my funds are stuck in bonus money and there is nothing in real money. I built my balance to $7500 using ZERO BONUS MONEY. Before that, I had lost the $400 first deposit as well as the $520 bonus funds directly linked to just the welcome offer. They aren't automated enough to understand the bonus terms and conditions were over as I made more deposits and there were no bonus funds left or initial deposit funds... how does this happen. Why if i deposit additional funds after not hitting with the welcome total would i still need to complete the wager requirements... at this stage there is no correlation unless they state in their T&Cs rollover is counted on all deposits.
This needs to be rectified. This is my money that I earned after a $400 deposit with no buffer from bonus funds. Attached, I made a $100 deposit to see where it would go and it goes right to "real money." When you make a bet, it takes directly from real money (also attached). This is either crooked, wrong, or just absolutely poor automation. To restate, there was no option to cancel the bonus at any time and their live chat is never online.
I have more photos that I would like to share. Please don't let them cheat here.
Dragi cmanlaffz,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaše negativno iskustvo sa Treasure Spins kazinom.
Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih bolje razumeo situaciju.
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala vam unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tomas
Dear cmanlaffz,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with Treasure Spins Casino.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can better understand the situation.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Tomas
Hej Tomas,
Hvala vam što ste se uključili da pomognete. Cenim te.
-Možete li molim vas da nam kažete koliki je vaš bilans u trenutku kada ste drugi put deponovali u kazinu?
2,20 dolara lol. Nije bilo opcije da otkažem bonus i nisam mogao da stavim opkladu da taj balans dovedem na nulu. Nakon toga sam napravio još 4 depozita od 400$ uz razumevanje da je period bonusa završen. Ovo je bio pravi novac. Novac koji sam osvojio bio je isključivo pravi novac.
Da li ste kontaktirali kazino u vezi sa trenutnom situacijom u vezi sa prikazom stanja na vašem računu?
Jesam, trebalo im je 2 dana da odgovore.
Da li su potvrdili da bonus dobrodošlice nije otkazan i da je ulaganje sredstava i dalje neophodno?
Oni su to potvrdili, ali nije bilo opcije za otkazivanje i ponuda dobrodošlice/period je završen - 17.4 Igrač sa samo 1 depozitom će imati pravo da unovči maksimalno 15 puta veći iznos početnog depozita. Svi dalji dobici će biti uklonjeni sa naloga na zahtev za povlačenje. Ovo se odnosi na maksimalnu isplatu tokom bonus faze... Napravio sam još nekoliko depozita u ukupnom iznosu od preko 2k.
Da li ste kontaktirali kazino u vezi sa otkazivanjem bonusa dobrodošlice u bilo kom trenutku?
Jesam, njihova funkcija ćaskanja 'uživo' naravno nije bila uživo pa sam razgovarao sa robotom i ispunio formular pitajući šta se dođavola dešava kada sam primetio.
^12.3.11 Ako igrač odluči da otkaže aktivni bonus, to može učiniti sa svog naloga - ovo je moj nalog, ali apsolutno nigde ne postoji funkcija otkazivanja........
Ovo je ludo i pravda treba da se zadovolji. Nema automatizacije na ovom sajtu, nije bilo mogućnosti za otkazivanje bonusa, nije automatski otkazan, čak priznaju da se prava sredstva prvo koriste, ali svi dobici idu direktno u bonus novac lol... nije u redu.
Molim vas pomozite
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Hey Tomas,
Thank you for stepping up to assist. I appreciate you.
-Could you please advise what was your balance at the time you deposited in the casino the second time?
$2.20 lol. There was no option to cancel the bonus and there was no wager I could place to bring that balance to zero. I subsequently made 4 more $400 deposits with the understanding the bonus period was over. This was real money. The money I won was strictly real money.
Did you contact the casino regarding the current situation regarding how the balance on your account is displayed?
I have, they took 2 days to reply.
Did they confirm the welcome bonus was not canceled and the wagering of the funds is still necessary?
They did confirm this but there was no option to cancel and the welcome offer/period was over - 17.4 A player with 1 deposit only will be eligible to cash out a maximum of 15x the initial deposit amount. All further winnings will be removed from the account upon withdrawal request. This is related to the max payout during the bonus phase... I made several more deposits totaling over 2k.
Did you contact the casino regarding the cancellation of the welcome bonus at any time?
I did, their 'live' chat function was of course not live so I talked with the robot and filled out a form asking what the hell is going on when I noticed.
^12.3.11 If a player decides to cancel an active Bonus, he can do so from his account - this is my account but there is absolutely no cancel feature anywhere present........
This is crazy and justice needs to be served. There is no automation on this site, there was no feature to cancel the bonus, it didn't automatically cancel, they even admit real funds are used first but any winnings go straight to bonus money lol... it's not right.
Please help
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Ne možete samo da uzmete više od polovine novca koji sam zaradio.............
Bio sam na 12.506,70 dolara nakon što sam ispunio uslove za opkladu (što uopšte nije trebalo da uradim). Onda finansijski sistem uzima $6,506.70... to je sveta nepravda.
Mogu li da vas podsetim da sam napravio oko 7 depozita nakon bonusa dobrodošlice. Bonus od 520 dolara je pomogao samo sa mojim prvim depozitom i izgubio sam sva sredstva i kao što ste spomenuli ostalo je samo 1,3 dolara bonusa i nisam mogao da otkažem i kada sam uplatio primetio sam da je prešao pravo na pravi novac.
Ovo nije u redu. Igrao sam svoj novi lažni "pravi novac" od 6k do 5k. Želeo bih da se 6500 dolara uračuna u moj pravi novac - nastaviću sa kazinoguruom i o ovome. Bonus sredstva su bila nebitna i nikada nisu korišćena nakon prvog depozita.
Želeo bih poštenu isplatu od 11 hiljada. Bio sam na 15.000, ali iz nekog razloga sam želeo da ispoštujem vaš zahtev za okončanje ovog glupog zahteva za prvi depozit od 50k koji se nadvijao nad mojom glavom - ključna reč prvi depozit.
Molim vas da mi date savet i želeo bih da budem verifikovan.
Conor
Update - sent this to treasure spins after they confiscated more than half my funds post being done rollover requirements
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You guys can't just take more than half of the money I earned...............
I was at $12,506.70 after completing the wager requirements (which I shouldn't have had to do in the first place). Then the Financial system takes $6,506.70... that is holy unfair.
May I remind you that I made about 7 deposits post welcome bonus deposit. The bonus of $520 only helped with my first deposit and I lost all the funds and as you mentioned there was only $1.3 left in bonus and I was unable to cancel and when I deposit I noticed it went right to real money.
This isn't right. I played my new bogus "real money" of 6k down to 5k. I would like $6500 readded to my real money - I will follow up with casinoguru on this as well. The bonus funds were inconsequential and never used post first deposit.
I would like the fair payout of 11k. I was at 15k but for some reason wanted to honour your request of ending this silly 50x first deposit requirement looming over my head - key word first deposit.
Please advise and I would like to get verified.
Conor
Pa, izgubio sam 5k. Napisao sam im e-poštu tražeći 6.506,70 dolara koje je njihov „finansijski sistem" nasumično, pogrešno i nepravedno uzeo. Samo želim da se ovo završi i da mi pošalju gore pomenuti broj. Izgubio sam 5k jer ne mogu da se povučem jer nisu verifikovali moj nalog/identitet nakon što su im poslali dokumente pre 3 dana…..
Odgovorite molim
Well I lost the 5k. I wrote them an email asking for the $6,506.70 that was randomly, incorrectly and unfairly taken by their "financial system." I just want this to be over and have them send me the aforementioned number. I lost the 5k as I am unable to withdraw due to them not verifying my account/identity after sending them documents 3 days ago…..
Please reply
Hvala na strpljenju.
Trenutno imamo stotine aktivnih pritužbi i iako dajemo sve od sebe, nismo u mogućnosti da odmah odgovorimo na sve poruke. Imamo 7 dana da odgovorimo i uvek se vraćamo na svaku žalbu što je pre moguće. Molim vas ostanite sa nama. Hvala vam na strpljenju i razumevanju.
Hvala vam na detaljnom objašnjenju situacije.
Žao mi je, ali uobičajeno je pronaći slotove u kockarnicama gde igrači mogu da ulože opkladu do 0,10 CAD
Ako vam je zahtev za klađenje bio vidljiv na nalogu, smatrali bismo da je klađenje bonusa dobrodošlice aktivno kao opravdano.
Da li možete detaljnije da objasnite koja su sredstva zaplenjena? Kakvo je bilo opravdanje koje vam je kazino dao? Da li ste završili klađenje bonusa?
Čekaću vaš odgovor.
Thanks for your patience.
We currently have hundreds of active complaints and even though we try our best, it is not possible for us to reply immediately to all messages. We have 7 days to respond and we always get back to each complaint as soon as possible. Please, bear with us. Thank you for your patience and understanding.
Thank you for your detailed explanation of the situation.
I am sorry but it's common to find slots in casinos where players can make a bet as low as 0.10 CAD
If the wagering requirement was visible to you in the account we would consider the welcome bonus wagering being active as justifiable.
Could you please explain in more detail what funds were confiscated? What was the justification the casino gave you? Have you completed the wagering of the bonus?
I'll await your reply.
Hvala na odgovoru, potpuno razumljivo i hvala vam na kontinuiranoj pomoći.
Čini se da je minimalna opklada na njihovoj platformi 0,25 centi. Zahtevi za klađenje nisu bili vidljivi kao kada bih napravio depozit nakon bonusa dobrodošlice/početnog depozita… novac bi otišao direktno u pravi novac.
Takođe... nekako sam ih uhvatio kako se okliznu. Pogledajte dole -
Vidite li kako jednu mogu otkazati, a jednu ne mogu? Oni zaključavaju svoje klijente u bonus dobrodošlice, prisiljavajući ih da ispune uslove za opkladu od 50k, UPRKOS DEPOZITIMA NAKON POČETNOG DEPOZITA.
Što je savršen segvai da dodatno pokaže kako su varali i lagali i zloupotrebljavali svoje uslove i uslove i onemogućili povlačenje jer daju sve od sebe da odlože verifikaciju odobravanja.
Dakle, 6.506,70 dolara je zaplenjeno i oni su citirali ovo pravilo...
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Dakle, ovaj bonus dobrodošlice od 130% koji smo ustanovili 1) nije mogao biti otkazan za razliku od drugog bonusa koji možemo da vidimo sa slike 2) nijedna opklada od 1,30 dolara ili bilo šta da bi se eliminisao ovaj iznos nije mogla biti opkladena 3) što je najvažnije za ovo pravilo i pogrešno konfiskacija – njihovo pravilo o uslovima i odredbama pominje „POČETNI DEPOZIT".
Ovo nije bio početni depozit, ovo je bio rezultat mog klađenja nakon 5 depozita od 400 dolara uključujući početni depozit. To su bila moja sredstva i ne podležu ograničenju dobitka jer to nije rezultat klađenja i pobede samo sa prvim depozitom i bonusom dobrodošlice.
Oni su odvratni, kukavički i pogrešno navode svoje uslove. Nisu automatizovani na mnogo načina, ali njihov „sistem" je uspeo da preuzme POLOVINU mog teško zarađenog novca.
Da stvar bude još gora, trebalo im je više od 9 dana da u potpunosti verifikuju moj nalog uprkos tome što su PISMENO naveli da je za to potrebno do 72 sata. Nisam mogao da se povučem tako da sam izgubio 5k saldo, a zatim još 4k saldo. Insaniti.
„Dragi Konore
Želimo da vas obavestimo da će sva dokumenta biti pregledana od strane relevantnog odeljenja u naredna 72 sata.
Kada vaši dokumenti budu prihvaćeni, obavestićemo vas o tome putem e-pošte.
Takođe ste imali priliku da zatražite povlačenje u bilo kom trenutku."
Poslednji deo je takođe potpuno lažan, jer kada sam otišao da zatražim povlačenje, on bi odbio čak i obradu jer moj nalog nije bio u potpunosti verifikovan.
Ukratko… Napravio sam svoj bilans do 15 hiljada sa mog petog depozita od 400 dolara. Nisam izgradio svoj bilans sa 1,30 dolara koji nisam mogao da otkažem ili da se kladim. Povrh toga, kada bih deponovao sredstva bi išla u „pravi novac". I imam dokaz za ovo. Treasure spins mora biti najnesposobniji, najnepouzdaniji, odvratniji onlajn kazino koji je ikada postojao. Oni su namerno i namerno nemarni, ne znaju kako funkcioniše njihova veb lokacija, nedostaje im automatizacija, nemaju funkciju ćaskanja uživo i nisu u stanju da priznaju da rade pogrešno.
Treba mi da uđeš i pružiš ruku i pomogneš. Porušio sam mnoge bilance zbog nemogućnosti da se povučem uprkos tome što su rekli da će to trajati samo 72 sata. Treba mi e-transfer od 6.506 dolara u jednoj rati, a ne ova sranje od 500 dolara dnevno. Trebalo bi ih staviti na crnu listu, iskreno, ne zaslužuju mesto na internetu.
Molim vas pomozite
Thanks for the reply, completely understandable and thank you for your continued assistance.
Minimum bet on their platform seems to be .25 cents. Wagering requirements weren’t visible as when I’d make a deposit post welcome bonus/initial deposit… the money would go straight to real money.
Also… I kind of caught them slipping. Please see below -
Do you see how one I can cancel and one I can not? They lock their customers into the welcome bonus forcing them to complete 50x wager requirements, DESPITE DEPOSITS AFTER THE INITIAL DEPOSIT.
Which is the perfect segway to further showcase how they cheated and lied and misuse their T&Cs and make withdrawing impossible as they do their absolute best to delay approving verification.
So $6,506.70 was confiscated and they cited this rule…
58.3.3 in its entirety - 58.3.3 All Freespins, Freebets, Bonus Chips, are valid for a period of 7 days from the time when they are credited to the players’ account. After the period of 7 days the aforementioned promotional materials expire and are not claimable or refundable. Max winnings from Cashback / Loyalty Bonus are limited to five (5x) times the initial amount of Cashback Bonus given. Any winnings above that will be forfeited. Max winnings from season/special promotions (including, but not limited to, Christmas Bonuses, Easter Bonuses, Halloween Bonuses) for 200% and above Bonus threshold, are limited to four (4x) times the initial deposit amount. Max winnings for bonuses between 150% - 199% Bonus threshold, are limited to eight (8x) times the initial deposit amount. Max winnings for bonuses between 120% - 149% threshold, are limited to ten (10x) times the initial deposit amount. Max winnings for bonuses between 100% - 119% threshold, are limited to fifteen (15x) times the initial deposit amount. Max winnings for bonuses between 25% - 99% threshold, are limited to twenty (20x) times the initial deposit amount. Any winnings above that limits will be forfeited.
So this 130% welcome bonus that we established 1) could not be cancelled unlike the other bonus we can see from the image 2) no bet of $1.30 or anything to eliminate this amount could have been wagered 3) most importantly for this rule and wrongful confiscation - their T&C rule mentions "INITIAL DEPOSIT."
This was not the initial deposit, this was the result of my betting after 5 $400 deposits including the initial deposit. Those were my funds and are not subject to having a cap of winnings as this was not the result of betting and winning with solely the first deposit and the welcome bonus.
They are being disgusting, cowardly and wrongly citing their terms and conditions. They aren’t automated in so many ways yet their "system" managed to take over HALF of my hard earned money.
To make matters worse, it took them over 9 days to fully verify my account despite them putting in WRITING that it takes up to 72 hours. I was unable to withdraw thus losing a 5k balance and then another 4k balance. Insanity.
"Dear Conor
We wish to inform you that all documents are reviewed by the relevant department within the next 72 hours.
Once your documents have been accepted, we will notify you accordingly via email.
You also had the opportunity to request a withdrawal any time."
The last part is also completely false as when I went to request a withdrawal it would decline even processing as my account wasn’t fully verified.
Long story short… I built my balance up to 15k from my 5th $400 deposit. I did not build my balance up from $1.30 that I couldn’t cancel or wager. On top of that, when I’d deposit the funds would go to "real money." And I have proof of this. Treasure spins has to be the most incompetent, untrustworthy, disgusting online casino to have ever existed. They are willfully and purposely negligent, don’t know how their own website works, lack automation, lack a live chat feature, and are incapable of admitting wrong doing.
I need you to step in and reach out and help. I blew many balances because of my inability to withdraw despite them saying it would only take 72 hours. I need the $6,506 e-transfered to me in one instalment and not this bullshit cap they put of $500 a day. They should be blacklisted in all honesty they don’t deserve a place on the internet.
Please help
Dragi cmanlaffz,
0,25 centi je i dalje više od 2,20 ili 1,30 koje ste ranije spomenuli.
Ne razumem vašu tvrdnju da zahtev za klađenje nije bio vidljiv ili da niste mogli dalje da kladite svoja sredstva.
Ako ste pokušali da otkažete svoj bonus na nalogu, sa moje tačke gledišta - prozor sa specifičnim bonusom i zahtevom za klađenje se prikazuje na istoj kartici, prema snimcima ekrana koje ste poslali.
Ako niste primili potvrdu da je bonus otkazan ili na neki drugi način neaktivan u vreme kada ste izvršili depozit, ne mislimo da je činjenica da je uslov za klađenje bonusa dobrodošlice nastavljen nepravedna.
Za vaše ostale poene
Ako proverite, maksimalni dobitak bonusa se takođe prikazuje u prozoru sa informacijama o bonusu na vašem nalogu kao 'maksimalno povlačenje': 4000 CAD
ovo predstavlja vaš početni depozit u kazinu 400 CAD k10 pravilo množenja maksimalnog dobitka određeno u uslovima kazina. Smatramo da pravila maksimalnog dobitka nisu nepravedna kada se primenjuju na bonus igru.
Žao mi je što kazino nije reagovao da otkaže vaš bonus, ali nažalost, ako su vam bile dostupne informacije da je bonus još uvek aktivan i da imate upotrebljiv saldo bonusa, bilo je razumno pretpostaviti da pravila bonusa i dalje važe kada napravili ste dodatne depozite u kazinu.
Prosledite mi e-poruke ili transkripte ćaskanja sa svojim pokušajima da otkažete bonus dobrodošlice i onim što je kazino odgovorio na moju e-poštu na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk
Čekaću vaš odgovor.
Dear cmanlaffz,
0.25 cents is still higher than 2.20 or 1.30 you mentioned previously.
I don't understand your claim the wagering requirement wasn't visible or that you couldn't wager your funds further.
If you attempted to cancel your bonus in the account, from my point of view - the window with the specific bonus and the wagering requirement is displayed in the same tab, according to the screenshots you submitted.
If you haven't received a confirmation the bonus was canceled or otherwise inactive at the time you made the deposits, we don't think the fact that the wagering requirement of the welcome bonus continued is unfair.
For your other points
If you check the maximum win of the bonus is also displayed in the bonus information window in your account as 'maximum withdraw': 4000 CAD
this represents your initial deposit in the casino 400 CAD x10 maximum win multiplier rule determined in the casino t&c. We consider maximum win rules not unfair when they are applied to bonus play.
I am sorry the casino didn't act to cancel your bonus, but unfortunately, if the information was available to you that the bonus is still active and you had a usable bonus balance, it was reasonable to assume the bonus rules still apply, when you made additional deposits in the casino.
Please forward me the emails or chat transcripts with your attempts to cancel the welcome bonus and what the casino replied to my email at tomas@casino.guru
I'll await your reply.
Dear cmanlaffz,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Iskreno, prilično šokantan odgovor. Mislim da ovde ne vidite punu sliku. Priložio sam 2 snimka ekrana gde je 1 VIP bonus bio lako otkaziv u bilo kom trenutku i bonus za 1. depozit koji nema i nikada nije imao tu funkciju. Zaključavaju vas uprkos tome što ste izgubili stanje na 1. depozitu i bonus na prvi depozit.
Razmislite o tome racionalno… zašto bih napravio još jedan depozit od 400 dolara koji je još uvek zaključan u uslovima bonusa gde moram da preokrenem na iznos od 45 hiljada… to nema apsolutno nikakvog smisla i nikada ne bih napravio još jedan depozit.
Mislim da zapravo niste pogledali sve snimke ekrana ili tačke ovde. Još jedna stvar koju niste uspeli da izračunate i razumete je njihova zloupotreba T&C-a u vezi sa maksimalnim dobicima pri prvom depozitu.
1) kako može postojati ograničenje za 1. depozit ako sam napravio još 4 depozita. Ovo pravilo se ne primenjuje… možda se preokret i dalje primenjuje, ali ova zarada nije dobijena samo od 1 depozita lol…
2) uradite matematiku molim vas. Da sam bio na 12k i da je maksimalni dobitak 10k od 400. To je 4k, zar ne? Pa zašto su mi odbili 6k umesto 8k da bi me spustili na 4k. Kako nisi uradio tu matematiku.
Vi ste na strani ovog kazina bez ikakve prave pažnje ili razmišljanja.
Još jedna stvar koju sam naveo je da je njihov razgovor uživo prekinut i poslao sam obrazac sa pitanjem o bonusu na koje nije odgovoreno. Takođe, njihova stopa odgovora na e-poštu je užasna. Trebalo im je više od 12 dana da verifikuju moj nalog kada isključivo navode da se završava za 72 sata.
Ovde tražim pregovore. Pogledajte njihov kazino rejting... znate da su varalice. Učinite nešto molim vas
Pretty shocking response in all honesty. I don’t think you see the full picture here. I attached 2 screenshots where 1 VIP bonus was readily cancellable at any given moment and the 1st deposit bonus which doesn’t and never had that feature. They lock you in despite losing your 1st deposit balance and 1st deposit bonus.
Think about it rationally… why would I make another deposit of $400 that is still locked into the bonus terms where I need to rollover to the amount of 45k… that makes absolutely no sense and I would have never made another deposit.
I don’t really think you have looked at all the screenshots or points here. Another thing you have failed to do the math on and understand is their misuse of the T&C regarding max winnings on first deposit.
1) how can there be a cap on 1st deposit if I made 4 other deposit. This rule does not apply… maybe the rollover still applies but these earnings were not garnered off of just 1 deposit lol…
2) do the math please. If I was at 12k and the max winnings is 10x of 400. That is 4k, correct? So why did they deduct 6k instead of 8k to put me down to 4k. How have you not done that math.
You are taking this casino’s side without any real due diligence or thought.
Another thing I stated was their live chat was down and I sent a form with a question about the bonus that went unanswered. Also, their email reply rate is dreadful. It took them 12 plus days to verify my account when they state exclusively that it gets completed in 72 hours.
I am looking for a negotiation here. Look at their casino rating… you know they are cheats. Do something please
Hvala za vaš komentar.
Poenta ove žalbe je da li je bonus poništen ili ne i da li se vaš naknadni depozit računa kao pravi novac.
Deponovanje dok su bonus sredstva prisutna i bonus je aktivan kada ste imali opciju da nastavite da igrate sa postojećim stanjem (1,30 CAD/2,20 CAD) bi značilo da ne možemo zanemariti uslove i odredbe bonusa. Pitanje je koliko dugo ste čekali da se bonus poništi nakon što ste ga zatražili od kazino podrške?
1) prema snimku ekrana koji ste poslali, napredak klađenja bonusa je jasno prikazan u informacijama o bonusu, tako da su vam ove informacije bile dostupne. Zbog toga kada ste napravili druge depozite u kazinu, bonus je i dalje bio aktivan, a važe uslovi i odredbe bonusa.
Da li sam dobro razumeo da ste iskoristili bonus dobrodošlice 9. maja i deponovali 4 puta po 400 CAD ubrzo nakon toga?
2) Koliko ste deponovali nakon što ste iskoristili bonus dobrodošlice u kazinu? Da li neki od ovih depozita iznosi 2000 CAD?
Prema informacijama koje ste dali, bonus nije poništen, jer nije bila opcija u prozoru sa informacijama o bonusu za taj bonus, a kazino podrška vas nije obavestila da je bonus otkazan čak ni nakon vašeg zahteva. Ovo opet znači da su primenjeni uslovi bonusa i da se klađenje bonusa nastavlja.
Obavestite me ako sam previdio bilo koju informaciju.
Čekaću vaš odgovor.
Thanks for your comment.
The point of contention of this complaint is whether the bonus was canceled or not and if your subsequent deposit should count as real money.
Depositing while bonus funds are present and the bonus is active when you had the option to continue playing with the existing balance (1.30 CAD/2.20 CAD) would mean we can't disregard bonus terms and conditions. The question is how long did you wait for the bonus to be canceled after you requested it from casino support?
1) according to the screenshot you submitted, the wagering progress of the bonus is clearly displayed in the bonus information, so this information was available to you. Due to this when you made the other deposits in the casino, the bonus was still active, and the bonus terms and conditions apply.
Do I understand correctly you redeemed the welcome bonus on the 9th of May and deposited 4 times 400 CAD shortly after?
2) How much did you deposit since redeeming the welcome bonus in the casino? Do any of these deposits add up to 2000 CAD?
According to the information you provided, the bonus wasn't canceled, because it wasn't an option in the bonus information window for that bonus and the casino support didn't notify you about the bonus being canceled even after your request. This again means the bonus terms applied and the wagering of the bonus continued.
Please let me know if I overlooked any information.
I'll await your reply.
Potpuno ste sve previdjeli i činjenica da ste na strani kazina je šala.
Molim vas recite mi u kom svetu mi 1,3 dolara bonusa pomaže da dođem do 15 hiljada ukupnog bilansa. Molim vas recite mi u kom svetu nisu imali dostupan razgovor uživo. Molim vas recite mi u kom svetu bonus na prvi depozit OČITNO nije bio otkazan, ali nasumični VIP bonus jeste. Molim vas, recite mi u kom svetu tvrde da je maksimalni dobitak od 10k prvog depozita jednak tome da odbiju 6k od salda od 12k kada je moj prvi depozit bio 400? Znate li da radite matematiku? Evo ja ću te držati za ruku. 400 k 10 = 4000. 12k - 6k bi mi ostavilo 6k. Da li pratite ili treba da pokrenem ovaj scenario treći put za vas.
kazino je namerno bio neznalica i uhvatio sam ih kako pokušavaju da prevare svoje igrače. A vi ste namerno slepi i neverovatno beskorisni.
Takođe sam naveo da kada napravite novi depozit, on ide na pravi novac koji nije direktno povezan sa bonus novcem. Zašto bih pretpostavio da je promocija još uvek aktivna kada 1) stanje bonusa dostiže tako nizak prag. 2) njihovo pravilo T&C koje oni navode navodi da su maksimalni dobici ograničeni na 10k prvog depozita SAMO NA NOVAC ZA PRVI DEPOZIT. Potpuno ste promašili poentu i iskreno me ljutite. Ispunio sam sranje uslove za opkladu, ali su mi još uvek ukrali 6k sa računa uprkos tome što je ovo pravilo T&C pogrešno korišćeno.
ti si potpuna šala ako opet misliš da sam ovde nešto pogrešio. $1,3 do 15,000 jebenih dolara je prilično dobar iznos.
Zamolio sam vas da se obratite kazinu i pomognete u pregovorima o nekoj vrsti rešenja, ali ste bili potpuno beskorisni.
Mislim da je vreme da vam ostavim recenziju i apsolutno plameno blago se okreće na mreži ako niste u mogućnosti da pomognete
You have completely overlooked everything and the fact you are siding with the casino is a joke.
Please tell me in what world $1.3 of bonus funds helps me get to 15k total balance. Please tell me in what world they didn’t have a live chat available. Please tell me in what world the first deposit bonus CLEARLY wasn’t cancellable but a random VIP bonus was. Please tell me in what world they claim 10x first deposit max winnings equates to them deducting 6k from a 12k balance when my first deposit was 400? Do you know how to do math? Here I’ll hold your hand. 400 x 10 = 4000. 12k - 6k would leave me with 6k. Do you follow or should I run this scenario a 3rd time for you.
the casino has been willfully ignorant and I have caught them trying to cheat their players. And you are willfully blind and incredibly unhelpful.
I also stated when you make a new deposit it goes to real money not directly attached to the bonus money. Why would I assume the promo is still active when 1) the bonus balance hit such a low threshold. 2) their T&C rule they cite states max winnings are limited to 10x first deposit ON ONLY FIRST DEPOSIT MONEY. You are completely missing the point and quite frankly are pissing me off. I completed the bullshit wager requirements yet they still STOLE 6k from my balance despite this T&C rule being wrongly used.
you are a complete joke if again you think I did anything wrong here. $1.3 to 15,000 fucking dollars is quite the come up.
I have asked you to reach out to the casino and help to negotiate some sort of resolution but you have been completely useless.
I think it’s time to leave you a review and absolutely flame treasure spins online if you aren’t god damn able to help
Hvala vam puno, cmanlaffz, što ste dali potrebne informacije. Vašu žalbu ću sada preneti kolegi Mateju ( _KSKSKSKSKS_0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, cmanlaffz, for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Matej (matej.n@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Dragi cmanlaffz,
Žao mi je što čujem za poteškoće sa kojima se suočavate.
U CG, naša standardna procedura uključuje prvostepenu podršku koja provjerava slučaj i prosljeđuje ga odgovarajućoj osobi da se bavi njime do njegovog rješavanja. U ovom slučaju, ta osoba sam ja.
Nakon pregleda vašeg slučaja, sa žaljenjem vas moram obavestiti da kazino koristi svoja pravila protiv igrača. U idealnom slučaju, kada deponujete sa malim preostalim iznosom bonusa, renomirani kazino bi vas pitao da li da izgubite ili zadržite bonus ili čak da ga očistite ako padne ispod određenog iznosa. Nažalost, izabrali ste kazino sa nepoštenim pravilima i lošim rejtingom. Sačekaćemo da vidimo da li će kazino odgovoriti.
Želeo bih da pozovem predstavnika kazina u slučaj:
Poštovani predstavnici kazina, da li biste mogli da objasnite zašto kazino koristi pravila protiv cmanlaffz-a kada je bilo očigledno da je iznos bonusa na njegovom računu preostali iznos bonusa nakon što nije uspeo da ga opkladi, i da nema nikakve veze sa njegovim dobicima od stvarnog novca ?
Dear cmanlaffz,
I am sorry to hear about the difficulties you are facing.
At CG, our standard procedure involves first-level support checking the case and transferring it to the appropriate person to handle it until its resolution. In this case, that person is me.
Upon reviewing your case, I regret to inform you that the casino is utilizing their rules against the players. Ideally, when you deposit with a small bonus amount left, a reputable casino would ask you whether to forfeit or keep the bonus or even clear it if it falls below a certain amount. Unfortunately, you chosed a casino with unfair rules and a poor rating. We will wait and see if the casino responds.
I would like to invite the casino representative into the case:
Dear casino representative, could you please explain why the casino utilize the rules against cmanlaffz when it was evident that the bonus amount on his account was residual amount of bonus after he failed to wager it, and has nothing to do with his winnings from real money?
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Hej Matej oni su grozni, korumpirani i iskorištavaju svoje igrače. Postoji li način da im možete poslati e-poštu lično ili mogu da vas dodam u nit e-pošte? Treba ih staviti na crnu listu. Ne bi trebalo da budu na mreži i njihova matična kompanija mora biti obaveštena. Nikada nisam naišao na korumpiraniji kazino
Hey Matej they are awful, corrupt and take advantage of their own players. Is there a way you can email them personally or can I add you to the email thread? They need to be blacklisted. They should not be online and their parent company needs to be informed. I have never come across a more corrupt casino
Dragi cmanlaffz,
Pokušao sam da pronađem neki alternativni kontakt u kazinu, ali kazino ne reaguje.
Ovaj kazino poseduje licencu Antilephone (Kurasao); Preporučio bih da ih kontaktirate direktno u ovoj situaciji. Kazino ne može ignorisati takvu žalbu.
Ja bih vam rado pomogao u tome.
Dear cmanlaffz,
I tried to find some alternative contact at the casino, but the casino is non-responsive.
This casino holds an Antillephone license (Curacao); I would recommend contacting them directly in this situation. The casino can't ignore such complaint.
I would gladly help you with that.
Možete li molim vas pomoći. Možemo li da započnemo e-poštu napred-nazad ili telefonski poziv. PS. Treasurespins šalu da su mi konačno odgovorili… nikad nisu završili da ti odgovore? Nadam se da ćete ih staviti na crnu listu i upozoriti svakoga da nikada ne koristi njihove lažne usluge
Can you please help. Can we start an email back and forth or a phone call. PS. Treasurespins the joke they are finally replied to me… they never ended up replying to you? I hope you guys blacklist them and warn anyone and everyone never to use their fraudulent services
Molimo napišite e-poštu na: _KSKSKSKSKS_0@email.kkkkk
Imejl treba da sadrži sledeće:
1) Vaši lični podaci:
Ime i prezime
Vaša zemlja boravka
2) Žalbeno telo mora da sadrži sledeće:
naziv kazina + URL + licenca (licenca br. 8048/JAZ)
Vaša prijava (korisničko ime) i email u onlajn kazinu (sa kojim ste registrovali nalog)
opis pritužbe.
3) Priložite fajlovima e-pošte ono što imate + vezu do ove žalbe.
Obavestite me nakon što podnesete žalbu.
Please write an email to: complaints@gaminglicences.com
The email should contain the following:
1) Your personal information:
name and surname
your country of residence
2) Complaint body must include the following:
casino name + URL + license (License No. 8048/JAZ)
Your login (username) and email in an online casino (with which you had registered the account)
description of the complaint.
3) Attach to the email files what you have + link to this complaint.
Please let me know after you submit the complaint.
Kazino zaista nikada nije odgovorio ni na jednu od naših pritužbi, osim u jednom slučaju kada su se obratili direktno igraču nakon što je igrač to javno objavio. Međutim, kazino ne može zanemariti regulator jer rizikuje da izgubi licencu. Antilefon je jedna od razumnih podlicenci sa Curacaoa.
Obavestite me nakon što podnesete žalbu.
The casino indeed never responded to any of our complaints, except for one instance where they addressed it directly with the player after the player made it public. However, the casino cannot disregard the regulator as they risk losing their license. Antillephone is one of the resonable sublicenses from Curacao.
Please let me know after you submit the complaint.
Dear cmanlaffz,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
U potpunosti razumem situaciju, ali čekanje na odluku regulatora može biti prilično dugotrajno, otprilike tri meseca. Zbog toga je preporučljivo podnijeti žalbu što je prije moguće.
I fully comprehend the situation, but waiting for the regulator's decision can be quite time-consuming, taking approximately three months. Therefore, it is advisable to submit complaint as soon as possible.
Dear cmanlaffz,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Dear cmanlaffz,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Nažalost, igrač nije odgovorio na naše poruke i pitanja. Shodno tome, nismo u mogućnosti da dalje istražujemo i nemamo drugog izbora nego da odbijemo ovu žalbu.
Igrač može ponovo da otvori ovu žalbu u bilo kom trenutku.
Unfortunately, the player has not responded to our messages and questions. Consequently, we are unable to investigate further and have no choice but to reject this complaint.
The player can reopen this complaint at any time.
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Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali:
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Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.
Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali: youremail@gmail.com
Link će isteći za 72 časa.
Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.