Igrač iz Finske je bio u mogućnosti da ponovo otvori svoj račun i deponuje u kazinu nakon što mu je račun zatvoren zbog problema sa kockanjem. Slučaj je uspešno rešen, a igrač je dobio povraćaj novca.
The player from Finland was able to reopen his account and deposit in the casino after his account was closed due to his gambling problem. The case was successfully resolved, and the player got refund.
Igrač iz Finske je bio u mogućnosti da ponovo otvori svoj račun i deponuje u kazinu nakon što mu je račun zatvoren zbog problema sa kockanjem. Slučaj je uspešno rešen, a igrač je dobio povraćaj novca.
Hej!!
Pridružio sam se vikingbet.io i sve je bilo u redu izgubio sam nešto i odlučio da zatvorim nalog zbog problema sa kockanjem. Zatvorili su moj nalog, ali sam posle nekog vremena mogao ponovo da ga otvorim samo tražeći, nije imao vremena na čekanju i trebalo je 2 minuta da ga otvorim. Obično limiti depozita imaju čak i period čekanja, ali ovaj nije imao nikakav. Kažu da mogu da otvore račun kada neko traži, iako sam ranije naveo problem sa kockanjem. Po njihovim uslovima piše da je minimalno samoisključivanje 6 meseci, i trebalo bi da kažu da će račun za vremenski period biti zatvoren, ali nisu ništa rekli.
Rekli su mi više izgovora zašto je račun ponovo otvoren i stalno lažu.. prvo je bio nesporazum, onda nisu znali da imam problem sa kockanjem i na kraju su rekli da nisu prekršili nijedan uslov.
Hey!!
I joined vikingbet.io and everything was fine lost something and decided to close my account due gambling problem. They closed my account, but after a while I could reopen it just by asking, it had no pending time and it took 2 minutes to get it open. Normally deposit limits even have a waiting period, but this didn't have any whatsoever. They say they can open account when someone asks, altho I had stated gambling problem before. On their terms it says minimum self exclusion is 6 months, and they should tell the time period account will be closed, but they didn't say anything.
They have told me multiple excuses why the account was reopened and they keep lying all the time.. first it was misunderstanding, then they didn't know I have gambling problem and finally they said they haven't break any terms.
Dragi Jorms,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Veoma mi je žao što čujem za vaše negativno iskustvo.
Da li biste mogli da podelite odgovor iz kazina u vezi sa vašim zahtevom da vam se depoziti vrate? Da li je kazino u bilo kom trenutku naveo da li je vaš nalog isključen i koliko dugo? Da li je vaš kazino račun trenutno otvoren ili zatvoren?
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Hvala vam puno unapred.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tomas
Dear Jorms,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m very sorry to hear about your negative experience.
Would you be able to share the reply from the casino about your asking for your deposits to be refunded? Did the casino indicate at any time whether your account was excluded and for how long? Is your casino account currently open or closed?
Please send any additional evidence to my email at tomas@casino.guru, or alternatively post it here.
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards,
Tomas
Hvala vam puno, Jorms, što ste dali potrebne informacije. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Jozefu ( KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, Jorms, for providing the necessary information. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Jozef (jozef.k@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Dragi Jorms,
Apsolutno cenim što ste podelili svoja iskustva sa Casino Guru timom. Sada ćemo pokušati da stupimo u kontakt sa kazinom.
Dear Jorms,
I absolutely appreciate that you shared your experiences with the Casino Guru team. We will now try to get in touch with the casino.
Dragi Jorms,
Žao nam je što čujem za vaše negativno iskustvo.
U Vikingbet-u ozbiljno shvatamo odgovorno igranje i imamo niz alata dostupnih u odeljku profila.
Čak i tokom procesa registracije, igrači se pitaju da li su se sami isključili sa bilo koje veb lokacije za kockanje u poslednjih 12 meseci. A ako imaju, neće moći da se prijave.
Našim igračima pružamo savete i uputstva koja su dostupna odmah pri registraciji, a za dalje informacije na našoj veb stranici koja je dostupna u bilo koje vreme.
Igrači mogu postaviti sopstvena ograničenja depozita, funkciju tajm-auta, opciju samoisključivanja itd.
Nakon pregleda vašeg slučaja, vidimo da ste poslali imejl našem timu za podršku i zatražili da zatvorite vaš nalog, što je i učinjeno. Međutim, ovaj zahtev nije bio za trajno zatvaranje.
Posle nekoliko nedelja ponovo ste kontaktirali našu podršku i zatražili da se vaš nalog ponovo otvori.
Nakon brzog pregleda vašeg naloga, agent za podršku je video samo nekoliko malih depozita i doneo je odluku da ponovo otvori vaš nalog u skladu sa našim uslovima i odredbama 14.5:
14.5 Kada ste zatvorili svoj nalog, možda ćemo u određenim okolnostima moći ponovo da otvorimo vaš nalog sa istim detaljima naloga kao i ranije ako to zatražite od nas. U takvim okolnostima, iako će Vaš nalog imati iste detalje o nalogu kao i ranije, on će biti predmet Uslova korišćenja koji su na snazi na dan svakog takvog ponovnog otvaranja i svih prethodnih prava (uključujući, ali bez ograničenja, na bonusi ili nepredviđeni dobici) više neće važiti.
Takođe mogu da potvrdim da je vaš Vikingbet nalog sada trajno zatvoren i da neće biti ponovo otvoren.
Srdačan pozdrav
Vikingbet kazino tim
Dear Jorms,
Sorry to hear about your negative experience.
At Vikingbet we take responsible gaming seriously and we have a varity of tools available in the profile section.
Even during the sign up process players are asked if they have self excluded from any gambling websites in the past 12 months. And if they have they will not be able to sign up.
We provide advice and guidance to our players that is readily available immediately at registration, and for further information on our website that is available at any time.
Players can set their own deposit limits, time out function, self exclude option etc.
After reviewing your case we see that you emailed our support team and asked to close you account which was done. However this request was not for a permanent closure.
After a few weeks you contacted our support again and asked to have your account reopened.
After a quick review of your account the support agent only saw a few small deposits and made the decision to reopen your account with reference to our terms & conditions 14.5:
14.5 Where You have closed Your Account, we may in certain circumstances be able to re-open Your Account with the same account details as before if You request us to do so. In such circumstances, while Your Account will have the same account details as before, it will be subject to the Terms of Use which are in force at the date of any such re-opening and any prior entitlements (including, but without limitation, to bonuses or contingent winnings) will no longer be valid.
I can also confirm that your Vikingbet account is now permanently closed and it will not be reopened again.
Kind regards
Vikingbet Casino Team
Na vašem sajtu piše: kada je samoisključivanje minimalni period od 6 meseci, pa to nema smisla? Zašto mi nisi ponudio neki vremenski period, pitao me koliko dugo želim da bude zatvoren? Upravo su mi rekli da je zatvoreno. Ponuditi mi neku vrstu ograničenja bilo bi bolje, nego da samo otvorim račun kada pitam. A u mejlovima koje sam imao sa vama, rekli ste mi „nismo imali pojma da ste problematični kockar", iako sam to posebno rekao kada sam zatvorio svoj nalog, da se ne bi ponovo otvorio.
Čini se da zavisnost od kockanja ne utiče na „neke okolnosti" Želeo bih da znam u kojim okolnostima držiš nalog zatvoren? Zašto ste ga sada odjednom trajno zatvorili?
It says on your site: when self excluding the minimum period is 6 months, so that doesn't make sense? Why didn't you offer me some time period, ask me for how long I want it to be closed? Just told me it's closed. Offering me some kind of limit would have been better, than just opening account when asking. And in the emails I had with you, you told me "we had no idea you are a problem gambler", altho I especially said it when closing my account, so it wouldn't be reopened.
Gambling addiction doesn't seem to affect "some circumstances" I would like to know in what circumstances you keep the account closed? Why did you now suddenly close it permanently?
Nakon brzog pregleda vašeg naloga, agent za podršku je video samo nekoliko malih depozita i doneo je odluku da ponovo otvori vaš nalog u skladu sa našim uslovima i odredbama 14.5:
Pa zar agent ne bi trebalo da proveri razlog zašto je račun zatvoren? Ako ne, uvek možete koristiti isti izgovor. Ja samo nalazim ovaj užasan razlog. Da je imao vremena da proveri moje depozite, pretpostavljam da je mogao da proveri i razlog.
After a quick review of your account the support agent only saw a few small deposits and made the decision to reopen your account with reference to our terms & conditions 14.5:
Well shouldn't the agent check the reason why the account is closed? If not you could always use the same excuse. I just find this terrible reason. If he had time to check my deposits, I'd assume he could have checked the reason too.
Dragi Vikingbet kazino tim,
hvala vam puno na reakciji. U casino.guru problem kockanja smatramo veoma ozbiljnim problemom. Standardno je da kada igrač obavesti kazino o problemu sa kockanjem, kazino treba da zatvori nalog bez mogućnosti da ponovo otvori ili savetuje proces kako da uspostavi trajno zatvaranje. Na osnovu dostavljenih informacija, igrač je obavestio vašu podršku o problemu kockanja. Podrška je potvrdila zatvaranje, ali izgleda da su propustili ključne informacije. Molim vas, možete li objasniti zašto je nalog još uvek ponovo otvoren?
Dear Vikingbet Casino team,
thank you very much for your reaction. In casino.guru we consider gambling problem as very serious issue. It is standard that when the player informs the casino about a gambling problem, the casino should close the account without chance to reopen or advise the process how to establish permanent closure. Based on the information provided, player informed your support about the gambling problem. The support confirmed closure, but it looks like they missed key information. Please, could you explain why the account was still reopened?
Zdravo Jozef,
Račun je ponovo otvoren na zahtev klijenata.
Pošto nije bilo nikakvih napomena o trajnom zatvaranju, operater je odlučio da ga ponovo otvori.
Razgovarali smo o ovom slučaju sa našim timom za podršku i ažurirali naše rutine, tako da ako nalozi budu zatvoreni zbog problema sa kockanjem, neće biti ponovo otvoreni.
Pozdravi
Vikingbet
Hello Jozef,
The account was reopened on the clients request.
As there wasnt any notes about permanent closure , the operator decided to reopen it.
We have discussed this case with our support team and updated our routines so if accounts are closed due to gambling issues they will not be reopened again.
Regards
Vikingbet
Zar to ne bi trebalo da bude standardna procedura?
Smešno je kako mene kriviš za ovo. Zar ne bi trebalo da budete sigurni da postoji napomena o problemima kockanja. Znate razlog zašto sam rekao da imam problem sa kockanjem je taj da se račun ne može otvoriti u budućnosti.
Shouldn't that be a standard procedure?
Funny how you are blaming this on me. Shouldn't you make sure there's a note about gambling issues. You know the reason why I said I have gambling problem, was so the account couldn't be opened in the future..
Dragi Vikingbet kazino tim,
s obzirom na sve činjenice, verujemo da igrač zaslužuje refundaciju ili barem relevantnu kompenzaciju. Jasno je istakao problem koji vam može pomoći u budućnosti. Mogu li vas ljubazno zamoliti da reagujete?
Dear Vikingbet Casino team,
considering all the facts, we believe the player deserves a refund or at least relevant compensation. He clearly pointed out an issue that can help you in the future. May I kindly ask you to react?
Obavestite me, ako niste voljni ništa da nadoknadite, umesto da čekate da vreme istekne. Onda ću znati da li treba da preduzmem sledeće korake.
Please let me know, if you're not willing to compensate anything, rather than waiting the time to run out. Then I'll know if I need to take the next steps.
Jozef, možeš li da objaviš gore navedene poruke, pa da povežem ovu žalbu sa njihovim nosiocem licence. Pokušavam da kontaktiram vlasnika operatera ili neku Dankinju koja je označena kao vlasnica sajta na komori Curacao.
Ako i vi imate bilo kakav dodatni savet, recite! Hvala što pokušavate da pomognete!
Jozef, can you make the messages above public, so I can link this complaint to their license holder. I'm trying to contact the operator owner or some danish woman that is marked as a owner of the site on chamber of Curacao.
If you have any additional advice too pls tell! Thanks for trying to help!
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Dragi Jorms,
Nakon uspešnog rešavanja problema, žalbu ćemo označiti kao „rešenu" u našem sistemu. Cenimo vašu saradnju i potvrdu, Jorms, i ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti, ne ustručavajte se da kontaktirate naš Centar za rešavanje žalbi. Naš cilj je da vam pomognemo.
Kao što znate, mi ne naplaćujemo naše usluge, niti primamo napojnice. Međutim, bili bismo vam zahvalni ako biste odvojili trenutak i podelili svoje iskustvo sa našim uslugama na Trustpilot https://vvv.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru. Iskreno razmatranje i sve sugestije koje ćete možda imati za poboljšanje našeg procesa rešavanja žalbi i posredovanja bili bi veoma cenjeni. Vaše povratne informacije mogu biti od pomoći drugima koji razmišljaju da nas kontaktiraju u vezi bilo kakvih problema vezanih za onlajn kazino. Hvala unapred na izdvojenom vremenu.
Srdačan pozdrav, Jozef
Dear Jorms,
After successfully resolving the problem, we will mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. We appreciate your cooperation and confirmation, Jorms, and if you encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future, please do not hesitate to contact our Complaint Resolution Center. Our goal is to assist you.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would appreciate if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru. An honest review and any suggestions you may have to improve our complaint resolution and mediation process would be greatly appreciated. Your feedback could prove helpful to others who are considering contacting us about any online casino-related issues. Thank you in advance for your time.
Best regards, Jozef
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