Igrač iz Nemačke ima poteškoća da povuče svoj dobitak zbog navodnog samoisključenja u istom kazinu. Nakon detaljnijeg ispitivanja, na kraju smo odbili ovu žalbu kao neopravdanu.
The player from Germany is experiencing difficulties withdrawing his winnings due to an alleged self-exclusion in the same casino. After a closer examination, we ended up rejecting this complaint as unjustified.
Igrač iz Nemačke ima poteškoća da povuče svoj dobitak zbog navodnog samoisključenja u istom kazinu. Nakon detaljnijeg ispitivanja, na kraju smo odbili ovu žalbu kao neopravdanu.
Zdravo, čekam odgovor od operatera kazina oko 8 dana. Bio sam blokiran na svom prvom nalogu i otvorio novi, a zatim osvojio neverovatnih 262.955,69 evra na Cash or Crash-u koje ne mogu da isplatim. Podrška uživo me uvek upućuje na e-poštu KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk ili KSKSKSKSKS2@email.kkkkk. Ne dobijam odgovor ni od jednog od njih i sada bih želeo da mi se isplati novac, što sam naporno radio da bih postigao ovaj profit. Pisao sam nosiocu licence Couraco EGaming i još uvek čekam odgovor, ali nisam raspoložen da će se nešto rešiti. Moj prvi račun je blokiran zbog zavisnosti od kockanja, na kojem je bilo i dosta novca, oko 40.000 evra. Molim vas za pomoć. Razmišljam i da odem kod advokata i tužim jer to nisu male sume novca.
Srdačan pozdrav
Hello, I've been waiting for an answer from the casino operator for about 8 days. I got blocked on my first account and opened a new one and then won a whopping 262,955.69 euros at Cash or Crash which I can't pay out. The live support always points me to the email kyc@winlegends.com or support@winlegends.com I get no answer from either of them and would now like to have my money paid out, which I worked hard to achieve this profit. I have written to the license holder Couraco EGaming and am still waiting for an answer, but I am not in good spirits that something will be solved. My first account was blocked due to gambling addiction, which also contained a lot of money, around 40,000 euros. I ask for your help. I'm also considering going to a lawyer and suing because these aren't small sums of money.
Kind regards
Guten Tag, Ich warte seit circa 8 Tagen auf eine Antwort vom Casino Betreiber. Ich wurde auf meinem ersten Konto gesperrt und ein neues eröffnet und daraufhin stolze 262.955,69 Euro bei Cash or Crash gewonnen die ich nicht auszahlen kann. Der Live Support weist mich jedesmal auf die Email kyc@winlegends.com oder support@winlegends.com Bei beidem bekomme ich keine Antwort und möchte nun gerne mein Geld auszahlen lassen, was ich mir hart erarbeitet habe um diesen Gewinn zu erzielen. Dem Lizenzinhaber Couraco EGaming habe ich angeschrieben und warte immer noch auf eine Antwort, jedoch bin ich keinen guten Dinge das da was gelöst wird. Mein erster Account wurde wegen spielsucht gesperrt worauf sich auch sehr viel geld befindet ca. 40.000 Euro. Ich bitte um Ihre Mithilfe. Ich überlege auch zum Anwalt zu gehen und zu klagen, da es sich hier nicht um kleine sümmchen handelt.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Dragi ilkkanprivat0,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što čujem za vaš problem. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju. Da li ste ikada tražili da se vaš nalog zatvori ili sugerisali problem sa kockanjem kada komunicirate sa ovim kazinom? Da li je vaš stari ili stvarni nalog uspešno verifikovan? Da li ste prilikom registracije novog naloga uneli iste lične podatke kao i kod prethodnog?
Ako postoji bilo kakva relevantna komunikacija, prosledite je na KSKSKSKSKS0@email.kkkkk .
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Hvala unapred na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear ilkkanprivat0,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely. Have you ever requested your account to be closed or suggested a gambling problem when communicating with this casino? Was your old account or the actual one successfully verified? Have you entered the same personal details when registering your new account as with the previous one?
If there’s any relevant communication, please forward it to petronela.k@casino.guru.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Petronela
Zdravo, hvala vam na povratnim informacijama. Nisam podneo zahtev za zatvaranje naloga na svom prvom nalogu. Uložio sam novac na ovaj sajt i kao rezultat osvojio 40.000 evra. Posle toga sam bio zabranjen zbog zavisnosti od kockanja. Kontaktirao sam podršku, ali nije dobio odgovor. Zatim sam otvorio drugi račun i ponovo uplatio, ali nisam znao da se možete verifikovati samo jednom i želeo sam da se kladim na ovaj novac jednom na Cash ili Crash-u i osvojio gore navedeni iznos. Moja opklada je bila 2.500 evra. Imao sam veliku sreću i tada me je blokirao 1 dan kasnije administrator sajta. Uzeo sam iste podatke za oba, ali imejl je bio drugačiji.
Hvala vam što ste mi otvorili uho, jer sam zaista očajan šta da radim. Da li vredi podneti tužbu ili tako nešto?
Srdačan pozdrav
Hello, thank you for the feedback. I did not apply for an account closure on my first account. I deposited money on this site and won 40,000 euros as a result. After that I was banned for gambling addiction. Contacted support but received no reply. I then opened another account and paid in again, but I didn't know that you can only verify yourself once and wanted to bet this money once at Cash or Crash and won the amount listed above. My bet was 2,500 euros. I was very lucky and was then blocked 1 day later by the administrator of the site. I took the same data for both, but the email was different.
Thank you for giving me an open ear here, because I'm really desperate about what to do. Is it worth filing a lawsuit or something?
Kind regards
Hallo, vielen Dank für die Rückmeldung. Eine Kontoschließung habe ich nicht beantragt auf meinem ersten Konto. Ich habe auf dieser Seite geld eingezahlt und daraufhin 40.000 Euro gewonnen. Danach wurde ich gesperrt mit dem Grund Spielsucht. Support angeschrieben, jedoch keine Antwort erhalten. Daraufhin eröffnete ich ein weiteres Konto und zahlte erneut ein jedoch wusste ich nicht das man sich nur 1 mal verifizieren kann und wollte diese Geld 1 mal bei Cash or Crash setzen und gewann den oben aufgeführten Betrag. Mein Einsatz war 2,500 Euro. Ich hatte sehr viel glück und wurde daraufhin 1 Tag später vom Administrator der Seite gesperrt. Bei beidem habe ich die gleichen Daten genommen, jedoch die Email war anders.
Danke das mir hier ein offenes Ohr geschenkt wird, da ich wirklich am verzweifeln bin, was zu tun ist. Lohnt sich eine Klage oder ähnliches?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Dragi kazino guru,
Želimo da odmah razjasnimo o ovom kupcu.
2022-11-25 Klijent je otvorio svoj prvi račun i napravio depozit od 48750€. U isto vreme nismo primili ova sredstva, klijent je zatražio povraćaj svih svojih transakcija odmah. Iz tog razloga, klijent je dodat na crnu listu i nalog klijenta je zatvoren tako da više nije mogao da se registruje sa svojim ličnim podacima.
2022-12-01 Klijent kreira drugi nalog sa drugačijim podacima (jer mu automatizacija nije dozvolila da se registruje sa svojim podacima jer je na crnoj listi).
Nakon depozita od 16000€ klijent osvaja sumu od 262955,69€.
Nakon toga, klijent je odmah došao u live chat i tražio da ispravi podatke unete prilikom registracije na njegove stvarne podatke. I nakon toga, zaposleni u Odeljenju za rizik su odmah utvrdili da je ovaj račun duplikat, a nakon provere depozita na drugom računu, takođe nismo dobili nikakva sredstva. Klijent je nakon depozita odmah zatražio povraćaj sredstava od 16000€.
Dakle, kupac je prevarant koji uplaćuje depozite i odmah povraća.
U ovom slučaju, dobici klijenta se ne smatraju legitimnim i želimo da upozorimo klijenta da je na crnoj listi i da nema pravo da igra na ovom kazino sajtu.
Da rezimiramo, klijent je otkazao sve svoje depozite, napravio 100% dupli račun namerno zaobilazeći crnu listu i više puta otkazao sve depozite na drugom računu. Depoziti klijenta nisu primljeni, stoga se dobici klijenta ne smatraju legitimnim.
Uvek smo za fer plej i želimo da i naši klijenti budu fer, ali u ovom slučaju klijent ne želi da igra fer i prevarant je.
Podstičemo naše klijente da igraju pošteno i uvek smo srećni da isplatimo svaki dobitak, svakom kupcu što je pre moguće.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Vinlegends tim.
Dear Casino Guru,
We want to make it clear right away about this customer.
2022-11-25 Client created his first account and made deposits of 48750€. At the same time we did not receive these funds, the client requested a chargeback of all his transactions instantly. For this reason, the client was added to the black list and the client's account was closed so that he could no longer register with his personal data.
2022-12-01 The client creates a second account with different data (because the automation did not allow him to register with his data because he is blacklisted).
After the deposits of 16000€ the client wins the sum of 262955.69€.
After that, the client immediately came to live chat and asked to correct the data entered during registration to his actual data. And after that, the employees of the Risk Department immediately identified that this account was a duplicate, and after checking the deposits on the second account, we also did not receive any funds. The client after the deposit instantly requested a chargeback of 16000€.
Thus, the customer is a scammer who makes deposits and immediately makes a chargeback.
In this case, the client's winnings are not considered legitimate and we want to warn the client that he is blacklisted and has no right to play on this casino site.
To summarize, the client canceled all his deposits, created a 100% duplicate account bypassing the blacklisting intentionally and repeatedly canceled all deposits on the second account. Client's deposits were not received, therefore client's winnings are not considered legitimate.
We are always for fair play and we want our clients to be fair as well, but in this case the client does not want to play fair and is a scammer.
We encourage our customers to play fair and we are always happy to pay out any winnings, any customer as soon as possible.
Best Regards,
Winlegends team.
Dame i gospodo
Nažalost, otkrio sam da moja banka zapravo nije odobrila moje uplate. Znam zašto sada kada sam razgovarao sa svojom bankom. Moja banka je pretpostavila da velike sume nisam položio, pa su me blokirali i poništili transakcije. Međutim, ne razumem zašto je novac tada donet na moj korisnički račun?
Međutim, stanje na vašoj strani je pravi novac i ja bih veoma želeo da predložim da se odbije razlika, što nažalost moja banka nije odobrila. Nisam prevarant jer ovo nije urađeno namerno.
I izvinjavam se za bilo kakve neprijatnosti i molim za vašu dobru volju.
Srdačan pozdrav
Ladies and Gentlemen
Unfortunately, I discovered that my payments were not actually approved by my bank. I know why now that I spoke to my bank. My bank assumed that the large sums had not been deposited by me, so they blocked me and reversed the transactions. However, I don't understand why the money was then credited to my customer account?
However, the balance on your end is real money and I would very much like to suggest deducting the difference, which unfortunately my bank did not authorize. I am not a scammer as this was not done on purpose.
And I apologize for any inconvenience and ask for your goodwill.
Kind regards
Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,
Wie ich leider festgestellt habe, wurden tatsächlich meine Zahlungen nicht von meiner Bank genehmigt. Den Grund kenne ich nun, da ich mit meiner Bank gesprochen habe. Meine Bank ging davon aus, dass die hohen Summen nicht von mir selber eingezahlt wurden, somit sperrten Sie mich und buchten die Transaktionen zurück. Jedoch verstehe ich nicht, wieso dass Geld dann bei meinem Kundenkonto gutgeschrieben worden ist?
Jedoch ist das Guthaben auf Ihrer Seite echtes Geld und ich würde sehr gerne vorschlagen die Differenz abzuziehen, die leider meine Bank nicht genehmigt hatte. Ein Betrüger bin ich nicht, da dies nicht mit Absicht passiert ist.
Und ich entschuldige mich für etwaige Unannehmlichkeiten und bitte um Kulanz ihrerseits.
Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Puno vam hvala, Vinlegends Casino tim , na pomoći i pojašnjenju.
Dragi ilkkanprivat0 ,
Možete li da nam kažete tačne dane oba depozita?
Thank you very much, Winlegends Casino team, for your assistance and clarification.
Dear ilkkanprivat0,
Could you please advise the exact days of both deposits?
Dragi ilkkanprivat0,
Možete li navesti koje ste lične podatke uneli prilikom registracije prvog i drugog naloga? Koje su bile iste a koje ste promenili, molim vas?
Dear ilkkanprivat0,
Could you please specify what personal data your entered when registering your first and second account? Which were the same ones and which ones did you change, please?
U stvari, sve je isto, samo ime 2. naloga sam izabrao svoje drugo ime. Želeo bih da razjasnim ovde da ima 250K u potu i ne razumem zašto kazino odbija da isplati. Šta ti je, klatiš jaja na 250 hiljada? Da li ste stvarno ranz kazino zaista vaša podrška uvek iste poruke putem e-pošte se ne prijavljuju i ja samo osvojim 250k i onda je moj nalog direktno blokiran sve je podešeno da traži neka prljava pravila sa vaše strane da postavim sve što nikada ne vidim opet pare a ti lepo napuniš džepove i odeš na odmor na maltu i vuciš debele noseve od babica.. bravo ti sve na vrhu..
Actually everything is the same, only the name of the 2nd account I chose my second name. I would like to clarify here that there is 250K in the pot and I do not understand why the casino refuses to pay out. What's the matter wobble your balls at 250k? Are you really a ranz casino really your support always the same messages by email is not reported and I just win 250k and then my account is blocked directly everything is set to look for some dirty rules from your side to set everything that I never see the money again and you fill your pockets nicely and go on vacation to malta and pull fat noses from n**es .. bravo you top everything ..
Eigentlich alles das selbe nur beim Namen beim 2. Konto mein zweitnamen gewählt. Ich möchte hier mal klarstellen, dass im pot 250K sind und ich es nicht verstehe warum sich das Casino weigert auszuzahlen. Was ist den los wackeln eure Eier bei 250k?? Ist seid echt ein ranz casino wirklich euer Support immer die selben Nachrichten per Email wird sich nicht gemeldet und da gewinne ich eben mal 250k und dann wird direkt mein Account gesperrt alles dran gesetzt irgendwelche Drecks Regeln von eurer Seite rauszusuchen um alles dran zu setzten das ich das geld nie wieder sehe und ihr euch schön eure Taschen füllt und auf malta urlaub macht und fette Nasen von n**en zieht.. bravo ihr topt alles..
Izvinite što sam bio uvredljiv, ali u redu sa ovim kazinom. Registrujte se ovde samo da sačuvate reputaciju. Kako smešno. Pravi kazino bi želeo da ovo reši privatno putem e-pošte tražeći bilo kakva rešenja, ali vas nije briga. MOLIM LjUDE: Molim vas uložite svoj novac u prava kazina, ja sam ovde očigledno upao u zamku i ne mogu ništa da uradim osim ako mi kazinoguru ne pomogne ovde, daću veliku donaciju Ukrajini i CasinoGuru timu. LG.
Sorry for being abusive but fine with this casino. Signing up here just to save reputation. How ridiculous. A real casino would want to sort this out privately via email looking for any solutions but you don't give a damn. PLEASE PEOPLE: Please invest your money in real casinos, I've clearly fallen into a trap here and can't do anything unless casinoguru helps me here, I'll make a big donation to Ukraine and to the CasinoGuru team. LG.
Tut mir leid fürs ausfallend werden, aber bei diesem Casino zurecht. Meldet sich hier nur um die Reputation zu retten.. Wie lächerlich. Ein richtiges casino würde dies privat klären wollen per Email irgendwelche Lösungen raussuchen aber ihr schert euch ein Dreck. BITTE LEUTE: Investiert euer Geld bitte in richtige casinos ich bin hier klar in eine Falle getappt und kann nichts machen ausser wenn casinoguru mir hier hilft gibt's eine fette Spende meinerseits an die Ukraine und fürs CasinoGuru Team. LG.
Ako sam dobro razumeo, svesno ste otvorili dva naloga i promenili svoje lične podatke prilikom registracije drugog naloga. Je li tako?
Uvek pokušavamo da pomognemo igračima koji su greškom otvorili dupli račun ili ako članovi njihove porodice igraju iz istog domaćinstva, ali izgleda da to nije slučaj ovde.
Obavestite me ako postoje dodatne informacije koje sam previdio, ali bojim se da ću biti prinuđen da odbijem vašu žalbu kao neopravdanu. Voleo bih da mogu biti od veće pomoći. Hvala unapred na odgovoru i razumevanju.
If I understand correctly you knowingly opened two accounts and changed your personal info when registering your second account. Is that correct?
We always try to help players who opened a duplicate account by mistake or if their family members play from the same household, but this doesn't seem to be the case here.
Please let me know if there is any additional information that I have overlooked, but I’m afraid I will be forced to reject your complaint as unjustified. I wish I could be of more help. Thank you in advance for your reply and understanding.
Ne mogu da vas sprečim da podnesete zvaničnu žalbu Upravi za licenciranje ili da kontaktirate svog advokata, ali se bojim da vam se ni njihove odluke neće dopasti.
Voleo bih da mogu biti od veće pomoći. Žao mi je što nismo mogli da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj slučaj, ali ne ustručavajte se da nas kontaktirate ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa nekim drugim kazinom u budućnosti. Iz gore navedenih razloga, sada ću odbiti ovu žalbu. Hvala na razumevanju.
I can't hold you back from filing an official complaint with the Licensing Authority or from contacting your lawyer but I'm afraid their rulings won't be to your liking either.
I wish I could be of more help. I’m sorry we couldn’t help you to resolve this case, but please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with any other casino in the future. For the abovementioned reasons, I will now reject this complaint. Thank you for your understanding.
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