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Ako želite da diskutujete bilo šta vezano za Juicy Stakes Casino, kao što su igre, bonusi, metode plaćanja, problemi sa nalogom, odgovorno kockanje ili bilo šta drugo, možete to učiniti ovde.
Zdravo, mislim da sam opet pogriješio igrajući u ovom kazinu. Vidim da je većina kockarnica koje Guru kvalificira kao dobre zaista suprotne jer neki ne plaćaju, drugi ne odgovaraju, a ovaj Juicy Stakes je jedan od njih: oni ne odgovaraju na e -poštu koju im šaljem, ali oni šalju mene e -mail svaki dan da mu dozvolite da se igra. Danas sam prvi put deponovao i počeo sam se igrati, ali provjera dokumenata mi govori da je to 5 dana, što smatram užasno puno vremena, osim toga plaćanja su putem transfera i kažu da obično uzimaju do 15 dana (još jedno nezadovoljstvo).
Prilikom popunjavanja podataka moje banke za slanje transfera, traže puno stvari o kojima nemam pojma o čemu se radi: bankovna ruta, poštanski broj i nekoliko stvari, dok ovdje u Španjolskoj morate dati samo: IBAN, SWIFT I ADRESA BANKE UZ TIRULAROV RAČUN.
U svakom slučaju, vidi se da ne pogađam nijedan kazino u kojem igram one koje mi nudi casino GUru
Hello, I think I have made a mistake again when playing at this casino. I see that most of the casinos that Guru qualifies as good are really the opposite because some do not pay, others do not answer and this Juicy Stakes is one of them: they do not answer any email that I send them, but they send me an email every day to let him play. I have deposited today for the first time and I have started to play but the verification of documents tells me that it is 5 days, which I consider an awful lot of time, in addition the payments are by transfer and they say that they usually take up to 15 days (another outrage).
When filling in the data of my bank to send a transfer, they ask for a lot of things that I have no idea what it is: bank route, zip and several things, when here in Spain you only have to give: IBAN, SWIFT AND ADDRESS OF THE BANK NEXT TO THE TIRULAR'S ACCOUNT.
Anyway, it is seen that I do not hit any casino in which I play the ones that the GUru casino offers me
Hola : creo que he vuelto a equivocar al jugar en este casino. Veo que la mayoria de lo casinos que Guru califica como buenos es realmente lo contrario porque unos no pagan otro no contestan y este Juicy Stakes es uno de ellos : no contestan a ningun correo que les envio, pero me mandan todos los dias un correo para que juegue. He depositado hoy por primera vez y he empezado a jugar pero la verificacion de documentos me dicen que son 5 dias lo que considero una barbaridad de tiempo, ademas los pagos son por transferencia y dicen que suelen tardar hasta 15 dias (otra barbaridad).
Al rellenar los datos de mi banco para que manden transferencia piden un monton de cosas que no tengo ni idea que es : ruta bancaria, zip y varias cosas, cuando aqui en España solo ha que dar : IBAN, SWIFT Y DIRECCION DEL BANCO JUNTO A LA CUENTA DEL TIRULAR.
En fin , se ve que no acierto con ningun casino en los que juego de los que me ofrece el casino GUru
Iskreno, situacija je slična onoj u prethodnom kazinu koju ste komentarisali. Odabrali ste kockarnice s ocjenama oko 6,5/10. Ne možemo reći da su ovo kockarnice koje bismo preporučili. Kockarnice koje preporučujemo za vašu zemlju navedene su ovdje https://casino.guru/top-online-casinos#tab=RECOMMENDED, a ova kockarnice imaju daleko bolje ocjene od 6,5.
Honestly, it's similar situation as the previous casino you commented on. You chose casinos with ratings around 6.5/10. We can't really say that these are the casinos that we'd recommend. The casinos that we recommend for your country are listed here https://casino.guru/top-online-casinos#tab=RECOMMENDED and these casinos have far better ratings than 6.5.
Nevjerovatno, nakon što su čekali da se isplati moje povlačenje od 1000 eura, još uvijek nisu provjerili dokumente više od jedne sedmice, ne odgovaraju ništa.
Ne kockajte se u ovom lošem kazinu
It is incredible, after waiting for my withdrawal of 1000 euros to be paid, they still have not verified the documents in more than 1 week, they do not answer anything.
Don't gamble in this bad casino
Es increible, despues de llevar esperando me paguen mi retiro de 1000 euros, todavia no me han verificado los documentos en mas de 1 semana, no contestan a nada.
No jueguen en este mal casino
Vjerujem da već znate kako podnijeti žalbu na našoj web stranici. Čekao bih do kraja ove sedmice i ako vam ne odgovore, vjerovatno bih podnio žalbu protiv kazina. Rekao bih da ako im date 2 sedmice da potvrde vaš račun, to bi trebalo biti dovoljno.
I believe you already know how to submit a complaint on our website. I'd wait until the end of this week and if they don't reply to you, then I'd probably submit a complaint against the casino. I'd say if you give them 2 weeks to verify your account, it should be enough.
Nećete biti plaćeni sa ovog sajta. Jasno je da nema licencu niti odgovore nikome. Ipak, ovaj sajt ima dobar rezultat. Nastavite sa dobrim radom kazino guru!!!
You're not getting paid by this site. It clearly has no license or answers to anyone. Yet, this site has a good score. Keep up the good work casino guru!!!
Ja
Hteo sam da znam ko vam daje licencu?
Soleil
Naš kazino je licenciran od strane regulatora za igre na sreću u svim zemljama u kojima posluje.
😊
Ja
Možete li biti malo konkretni?
Soleil
Konkretno u pogledu čega?😊
Ja
Naš kazino je licenciran od strane regulatora za igre na sreću u svim zemljama u kojima posluje.
Nova
Soleil
Zaista. To je ono što je gore navedeno. Šta biste tačno želeli da navedete kao potrebne informacije, već smo prethodno dali
Nigde nemaju dozvolu za rad....
Me
I wanted to know who licenses you?
Soleil
Our Casino is licensed by Gaming Regulators in all of the countries in which it operates.
😊
Me
Can you be a little specific?
Soleil
Specific in regards to what?😊
Me
Our Casino is licensed by Gaming Regulators in all of the countries in which it operates.
New
Soleil
Indeed. That is what was stated above. What exactly would you like to be specified as the necessary information has already been provided previously
They don't have a license to operate anywhere....
Da video sam šta si napisao u drugoj temi i u suštini sam ti tamo odgovorio da po nama imaju neproverljivu licencu. Mislim da bi se u ćaskanju koji si postavio samo vrteo okolo, po tim odgovorima.
Yes I saw what you wrote in the other thread and I basically replied to you there that they have an unverifiable license according to us. I think that in the chat you posted you would just be going around and around, according to those answers.
Krše odredbe i uslove govoreći da su licencirani, što očigledno nije istina, a vi momci poričete moju žalbu rekavši da sam imao više naloga kada sam očigledno imao jedan.
They break terms and conditions saying they are licensed which is obviously not the truth and you guys deny my complaint saying I had multiple accounts when I clearly had one.
Govorite o žalbi koja je ustanovljena u prošlosti i, kao što sam video, dosta davno. Mislim da pošto je kazino u to vreme pružio relevantne dokaze i naš tim je ocenio da vaša žalba nije opravdana, nažalost nije moguće više pomoći. Nadam se da razumete.
You are talking about a complaint that was established in the past and, as I have seen, quite a long time ago. I think that since the casino provided relevant evidence at the time and our team assessed that your complaint was not justified, unfortunately it is not possible to help you more. I hope you understand.
Šteta, jer je ovaj kazino nekada imao dobru reputaciju. Igrao sam i poker i kazino tamo.
It's a pity, because this casino used to have a good reputation. I played both poker and casino there.
Жаль, ведь раньше это казино имело не плохую репутацию. Играла там как в покер так и казино.
Pa, siguran sam da zvuči prilično neprofesionalno, ali prethodnu informaciju u ovom slučaju ne bih uzeo kao kamen filozofije.
Kada neko stalno insistira na odbijenoj žalbi staroj 3 godine, bar ne bih rekao da je to u najboljem slučaju ažurno mišljenje. To je više nezalečena rana. Pogledajte sami ovde .
Kada je reč o pravičnosti i bezbednosti, njegova ocena je iznad proseka . Tako da to ne bih nazvao lošim mestom za igru.
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Well, I am sure it sounds quite unprofessional, but I would not take the previous information as the philosopher's stone in this case.
When someone keeps insisting on a 3-year-old rejected complaint, at least I would not say it is an up-to-date opinion, at best. It's more of an unhealed wound. Take a look for yourself right here.
When it comes to fairness and safety, its rating is above average. Thus, I would not call that a bad place to play.
🙂
Ako imate nešto novo da dodate ovom prilično hladnom slučaju, prestanite da šaljete neželjenu poštu forumu i umesto toga zatražite da se žalba ponovo otvori .
Ovo je besmisleno, a jedini efekat će biti da vam više neće biti dozvoljeno da postavljate bilo šta na forumu .
Nemamo vremena da stalno odgovaramo na sve vaše postove o istoj stvari iznova i iznova širom foruma, vidite? 🙏
Obavestio sam tim za žalbe o vašoj beskonačnoj aktivnosti, ali poslednji korak je na vama.
Biti razuman; mi se ne bavimo pritužbama na forumu i ovde vam ne možemo pomoći.
If you have anything new to add to this rather cold case, please stop spamming the forum and instead ask for the complaint to be reopened.
This is pointless, and the only effect will be that you won't be allowed to post anything on the forum again.
We do not have time to keep answering all your posts about the same thing over and over again across the forum, you see? 🙏
I notified the Complain Team about your undying activity, but the final step is up to you.
Be reasonable; we do not deal with complaints on the forum, and we can't help you here.
Vau. Spamujete forum kada vam je tip pričao šta se dogodilo? Pao si na staro. Svaki igrač može imati samo jedan nalog. Dozvoljen je samo jedan nalog za svako domaćinstvo, IP, PC. Da biste pristupili svom nalogu potrebno je da unesete login i lozinku, zaštićene našim bezbednosnim sistemom. Štaviše, korisniku nije dozvoljeno da prenese pristup nalogu trećim licima. Primenjujemo zaštićenu vezu kada pristupite igri i kodirate svoju prijavu i lozinku. Ne možete pristupiti igri ako niste prijavljeni. Svaki lažni kazino će to skoro sigurno koristiti kao izgovor za krađu novca od svojih klijenata. Čitajući žalbe i kritike, ovom kazinu ne bi trebalo dozvoliti da radi. Razgovarajte sa njihovom podrškom i ona će reći mnogo o svim pritužbama, diskusijama ili recenzijama ovde.
Wow. Spamming the forum when the guy was telling you what happened? You fell for the old Every player can have only one account. Only one Account for each household, IP, PC is allowed. To access your account you need to type login and password, protected by our security system. Moreover, the user is not allowed to pass the access to the account to third parties. We apply protected connection when you access the game and encode your login and password. You cannot access the game without being logged in. Any rogue casino will almost certainly use this as their excuse for stealing money from their customers. Reading the complaints and reviews, this casino shouldn't be allowed to operate. TAlk to their supprt and it will speak volumes to any complaints or dicussions or reviews on here.
Prvo, preporučio bih vam da pročitate nešto više o tome kako pristupamo ovoj temi, molim.
Postoji nešto što se zove Kodeks poštenog kockanja koji nastojimo da sledimo kako bismo ostali transparentni. Odvojite nekoliko minuta da pročitate ovo:
Uobičajene problematične oblasti u onlajn kockanju i kako bi kazina trebalo da ih tretiraju
11. Verifikacija igrača i duplikati naloga :
U velikoj većini kazina, igračima je dozvoljeno da imaju samo jedan račun igrača po kazinu. Otvaranje više naloga je u suprotnosti sa Uslovima i odredbama, a duplikati naloga se uglavnom zatvaraju nakon što se otkriju.
Većina kazina proverava duplikate naloga samo kao deo procesa verifikacije, što se obično radi kada igrač zatraži povlačenje. Ako igrač osvoji nešto na jednom od svojih duplih naloga, dobici se generalno poništavaju. U nekim slučajevima, početni depoziti mogu biti vraćeni igraču ako kazino veruje da je dupli račun kreiran slučajno.
Tačka gledišta kazina
Kazina dozvoljavaju igračima da kreiraju samo jedan nalog kako bi se zaštitili od zloupotreba bonusa. Otvaranje više naloga i pokušaj dobijanja bonusa dobrodošlice više puta je jedan od malog broja načina na koje igrači mogu da steknu prednost u odnosu na kazino, ili bar da umanjuju prednost kazina. Zbog toga ima smisla da se kazina zaštite zatvaranjem duplikata naloga.
Tačka gledišta igrača
Neki igrači namerno kreiraju više naloga (da bi zloupotrebili bonus dobrodošlice), ali ponekad se dešava da igrači jednostavno zaborave da su već registrovali nalog u kazinu i nesvesno kreiraju novi nalog.
Ponekad igrači žele da se prijave na svoj stari nalog, ali ne pamte svoju lozinku. Umesto da prođu kroz proceduru 'zaboravljene lozinke', oni kreiraju novi nalog, možda ne znajući da rade nešto što je protiv pravila.
U svakom slučaju, mislimo da igrači ne bi trebalo da brinu da će slučajno kreirati duple naloge u istom kazinu.
Naš stav
Prihvatamo da je odgovornost igrača da se postaraju da ne otvore više naloga u istom kazinu. Ne zato što mislimo da je to pravi način da se to uradi, već zato što je to industrijski standard i ne možemo da kažnjavamo sve kazina koji ne primenjuju pravilo „jedan nalog po igraču" na način na koji mi smatramo da je najbolje. Međutim, verujemo i nadamo se da će provera duplikata naloga tokom kreiranja naloga postati industrijski standard u budućnosti i da će igrači biti bolje zaštićeni.
U međuvremenu, svaki slučaj treba razmotriti posebno. Ako kazino sazna da je igrač kreirao pet odvojenih naloga i zatražio pun iznos bonusa na svakom od njih, verovatno je da se radi o zloupotrebi bonusa i kazino ima pravo da ih kazni. S druge strane, ako povremeni igrač greškom kreira dva naloga i čak ne zatraži bonus, kazino ne bi trebalo da ih kazni samo zato što ima pravilo koje se može koristiti protiv njih.
Naše preporuke za kazina
Da biste sprečili dupliranje naloga, izvodljivo je i efikasno proveriti da li ima duplih naloga tokom procesa kreiranja naloga. Ne mislimo na proceduru potpunog poznavanja vašeg klijenta (KIC) koja bi uključivala verifikaciju lične karte, već na brzu proveru kombinacija ličnih detalja koje bi delile samo dve različite osobe u veoma retkim izuzecima, kao što su ime, prezime i datum rođenja. Ako kazino ne zahteva ove informacije tokom procesa registracije, trebalo bi da to počne.
U većini slučajeva neće biti meča i kazino može pustiti igrača da igra, samo pokreće potpunu KIC proceduru kada igrač podnese svoj zahtev za povlačenje. Međutim, ako kazino dobije utakmicu, verovatno je da igrač već ima nalog. U ovim slučajevima, obavestite igrača i/ili zamolite ga da završi KIC proceduru kako biste bili sigurni da već nema nalog.
Ako ovo nije tehnološki izvodljivo, kazino ne bi trebalo da kažnjava igrače koji su nesvesno otvorili drugi nalog i nisu nameravali da zloupotrebe bonus dobrodošlice. Ako vam igrač nije naneo nikakvu štetu, najbolje je da ga kontaktirate i nađete prihvatljivo rešenje za obe uključene strane, kao što je otvaranje jednog naloga i zatvaranje drugog(ih).
Cenim vašu spremnost da podelite ono što smatrate važnim. Verujem da delimo istu optiku kada su u pitanju duplikati naloga.
Slažem se; nije fer poništiti nečiji dobitak jer drugi član domaćinstva igra u istom kazinu koristeći isti ViFi, npr.
First, I'd recommend you read something more about how we approach this topic, please.
There is something called the Fair Gambling Codex we seek to follow in order to stay transparent. Kindly take a few minutes to read this:
Common problematic areas in online gambling and how casinos should handle them
11. Player verification and duplicate accounts:
In a vast majority of casinos, players are only allowed to have one player account per casino. Opening more than one account is against the T&Cs, and duplicate accounts are generally closed after being discovered.
Most casinos only check for duplicate accounts as a part of the verification process, which is generally done when a player asks for a withdrawal. If a player wins something on one of their duplicate accounts, the winnings are generally annulled. In some cases, the initial deposits might be returned to the player if the casino believes the duplicate account was created by accident.
The casino's point of view
Casinos only allow players to create one account to protect themselves against bonus abusers. Opening multiple accounts and trying to claim the welcome bonus more than once is one of a small number of ways that players can use to gain an advantage over the casino, or at least make the casino's advantage smaller. This is why it makes sense that casinos protect themselves by closing duplicate accounts.
The player's point of view
Some players create multiple accounts on purpose (to abuse the welcome bonus), but it's sometimes the case that players simply forget they've already registered an account at a casino, and unknowingly create a new account.
Sometimes, players want to log in to their old account but don't remember their password. Instead of going through the 'forgotten password' procedure, they create a new account, perhaps not knowing that they are doing something that's against the rules.
Either way, we think that players shouldn't have to worry about accidentally creating duplicate accounts at the same casino.
Our position
We accept that it is the responsibility of players to make sure that they don't create multiple accounts at the same casino. Not because we think it's the right way to do it, but because it's the industry standard, and we cannot penalize all casinos that don't enforce the 'one account per player' rule the way we consider best. However, we believe and hope that checking for duplicate accounts during account creation will become the industry standard in the future and players will be better protected.
In the meantime, each case should be considered separately. If the casino finds out that a player has created five separate accounts and claimed the full bonus amount on each of them, it is likely that this is a bonus abuser, and the casino has every right to penalize them. On the other hand, if a casual player mistakenly creates two accounts and doesn't even claim the bonus, the casino shouldn't penalize them just because it has a rule that can be used against them.
Our recommendations for casinos
To prevent duplicate accounts, it is feasible and effective to check for duplicate accounts during the account creation process. We don't mean a full know your customer (KYC) procedure that would involve ID verification, but a quick check of personal detail combinations that would only be shared by two separate people in very rare exceptions, such as first name, surname and date of birth. If the casino doesn't require this information during the registration process, it should start doing so.
In most cases there will not be a match and the casino can let the player play, only triggering a full KYC procedure when the player submits their withdrawal request. However, if the casino does get a match, it is likely that the player already has an account. In these cases, notify the player and/or ask them to complete a KYC procedure to make sure that they don't already have an account.
If this is not technologically feasible, the casino shouldn't punish players who created a second account unknowingly and didn't intend to abuse the welcome bonus. If the player hasn’t caused you any harm, it's best to contact them and find an acceptable solution for both involved parties, such as keeping one account opened and closing the other one(s).
I appreciate your willingness to share what you feel is important. I believe we share the same optics when it comes to duplicate accounts.
I agree; it's not fair to void someone's winnings because another member of the household plays in the same casino using the same wifi, e.g.
Ove informacije koje ste mi dali bile su od velike pomoći i sada razumem da vas je prevario kazino koji nema licencu i navodne višestruke naloge igrača. Voleo bih da ste više istražili Ričarda Mekenu da biste videli da li je imao neke druge naloge na bilo kom drugom kazino sajtu ili da li je u stvari ovo bio njegov prvi kazino sajt koji je ikada koristio i koji kaže da je više naloga radila ista osoba. Pretpostavljam da ste verovali na verodostojnu reč sajta koji tvrdi da ima kazino licencu koja nema, i da ste verovali njihovoj reči umesto reči Richarda McKenne? Da li bih bio u pravu ako pretpostavim da su vam upravo pokazali šta su izmislili kao dokaz?
This information you provided me was very helpful and I now understand that you were fooled by a casino that has no license and alleged multiple accounts by a player. I would like to think you did more research on Richard McKenna to see If he had any other accounts on any other casino sites or if in fact this was his first casino site he ever used and that said multiple accounts was done by the same person. I'm assuming you took the trustworthy word of a site that claims to have a casino license which doesn't, and you took their word for it over Richard McKenna's word over it? Would I be correct in assuming that they just showed you what they fabricated as evidence?
Ovo mi je pokazao Ričard. Nisam siguran kako bi ovo bio duplikat naloga. Izgleda da je govorio istinu da je imao samo jedan račun u životu.
Dragi RICHARD,
Kontaktiramo vas iz kazina JuiciStakes.
Vaš nalog je pregledan i ustanovljeno je da je usko povezan sa drugim nalogom u našem sistemu koji ima nerešene finansijske probleme. Kao rezultat toga, doneta je odluka da se vaš nalog trajno zatvori, jer nije prošao naše bezbednosne provere. Ova odluka neće biti poništena.
U slučaju da se otvori novi nalog pod vašim imenom, on će biti zatvoren.
Pozdravi,
Penelope
JuiciStakes Securiti Team
This is what I was shown by Richard. I'm not sure how this would be a duplicate account. Looks like he was telling the truth that he has had only one account in his life.
Dear RICHARD,
We are contacting you from JuicyStakes Casino.
Your account has been reviewed, and it was found to be closely related to another account in our system that has unresolved financial issues. As a result the decision has been made to permanently close your account, as it did not pass our security checks. This decision will not be reversed.
In the event that a new account is created under your name, it will be closed.
Regards,
Penelope
JuicyStakes Security Team
Mogu li celu ovu stvar svesti na najvažniji deo, molim? Možete li dokazati da je kazino lagao? Ne možemo.
Pored toga, slučaj je bio prilično star – sve se dogodilo pre tri godine. Mi ne rešavamo takve žalbe. Iskreno, igrač nas je maltretirao na forumu, izjavljujući da smo u savezu sa kazinom i da zato nismo voljni da mu pomognemo. Ja sam mu to lično mnogo puta objasnio i nažalost, kao logičan rezultat, ovaj igrač je banovan.
Slobodno kliknite na njegov „anonimizovani" profil da biste saznali više.
Da, to je barem bilo neželjeno slanje.
Takođe sam otkrio da su vaše ime i IP adresa povezani sa drugim Casino Guru nalozima. Ja to shvatam kao čistu slučajnost. Ovo je zaista zanimljivo s obzirom na činjenicu da je ceo ovaj razgovor o starom slučaju sa više naloga.
Žao mi je; ne mogu više ništa da pružim. To je istorija, i sve je rečeno.
May I reduce this whole thing to the most important part, please? Can you prove the casino lied? We can't.
Additionally, the case was actually pretty old - it all happened three years ago. We do not handle such complaints. Frankly, the player kept harassing us on the forum, stating that we are in league with casinos and hence we were not willing to help him. I personally explained it all to him many times, and sadly, as a logical result, this player was banned.
Feel free to click on his "anonymized" profile to find out more.
Yes, that was spamming, at least.
I also found that your name and IP are associated with other Casino Guru accounts. I take that as pure coincidence. This is truly interesting given the fact that this whole conversation is about an old multiple-account case.
I'm sorry; there is nothing more I can provide. It is history, and all has been said.
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