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Da li je još neko umoran od stalnog prevare ovog sajta?
Anyone else tired of being scammed by this site constantly ?
Da li je još neko umoran od stalnog prevare ovog sajta?
Anyone else tired of being scammed by this site constantly ?
Hej, a koji sajt imaš na umu? Na osnovu vaše žalbe , rekao bih da se radilo o NANOGAMES.IO . 🤷♀
Razumem da ste ljuti, ali želim da vas ponovo pitam da li kazino drži neka sredstva?
Nisam mogao da ga pronađem u vašem prilično dugačkom poslednjem odgovoru, izvinite. Vi samo govorite o krađi i prevarama, ali ja bih rekao da poeni lojalnosti ili čisto bonus novac nisu vaši dok se potpuno ne pretvore u prava sredstva, zar ne?
Budite konkretniji, po mogućnosti putem žalbe: https: //casino.guru/nanogames-io-casino-plaier-s-account-got-unfairli
Kao što je objašnjeno, sve potencijalne nagrade ili „poeni lojalnosti" se ne smatraju pravim sredstvima, već bonus novcem.
Iskreno, ova tačka je takođe važeća:
„Molimo vas da razumete da ne možemo da kaznimo kazino za zatvaranje vašeg naloga. Kazina, generalno, imaju pravo da ograniče ili čak zatvore račune igrača ako sumnjaju na neregularnu igru ili druge sumnjive aktivnosti ili bez ikakvog razloga.
Pored toga, prema našim rečima: znate da su SAD na crnoj listi. Znali ste da rade bez dozvole, ali ste se vraćali sve dok vam nalog nije bio zabranjen, a sada ga koristite kao argument zašto se čini da je kazino prevara. Pa, zašto si nastavio da igraš tamo? Da li biste se žalili ako vaš nalog ostane otvoren?
Žao mi je, ne mogu to da razumem.
Hey, and which site do you have in mind? Based on your complaint, I'd say it was about NANOGAMES.IO . 🤷♀️
I understand you feel angry, but I would like to ask you again whether any funds are being held by the casino?
I could not find it in your quite long latest reply, I'm sorry. You are just talking about theft and scams, but I'd say loyalty points or purely bonus money are not yours until fully converted into real funds, right?
Kindly be more concrete, preferably through the complaint: https://casino.guru/nanogames-io-casino-player-s-account-got-unfairly
As explained, any potential rewards or "loyalty points" are not considered real funds but rather bonus money.
Frankly, this point is also valid:
"Please understand, that we can’t penalize the casino for closing your account. Casinos, in general, have a right to restrict or even close players’ accounts if they suspect irregular play or other questionable activities or for no reason at all. "
Additionally, per our own words: you know the US is blacklisted. You knew they operated without a license, yet you kept coming back until your account was banned, and now you're using it as an argument why the casino seems to be a scam. Well, why did you keep playing there? Would you complain if your account remained open?
I'm sorry, I can't understand that.
Ne valja. Nisam imao pojma da su SAD na crnoj listi sve dok nisu zabranili moj nalog. Takođe nisam znao da nemaju licencu sve dok mi nisu zabranili nalog. Tako dobar pokušaj da izgledam kao loš momak. Naučio sam ove stvari nakon što sam uradio neko sopstveno istraživanje nakon što sam bio zabranjen.
Nikada nisam bio uključen u „neregularnu igru ili sumnjive aktivnosti". I, štaviše, ako kazino jednostavno zatvori račune svojih igrača bez ikakvog razloga...kao što to radi Nanogames...ko želi da igra tamo? Niko. Jer to znači da im uopšte nije stalo do svojih igrača, već su tu samo da ukradu njihova sredstva. A Nanogames radi upravo to.
Umesto da pokušavate da izgledam loše, zašto mi ne objasnite zašto nemaju dozvolu? Ili zašto dozvoljavaju ljudima u SAD da igraju tamo..znajući da su iz SAD kada je na crnoj listi? To takođe dokazuje da krše svoje uslove. Da li biste rekli da posluju legalno?
Kladim se u novac da radiš za njih. Jer niko pri zdravoj pameti ne bi podržao ove prevarante i lopove. Ali..dok ih branite...možda biste mogli i da objasnite zašto su prošle godine uhvaćeni u manipulisanju ruletom od strane jednog od njihovih igrača i zašto su mu platili novac da ćuti o tome....dao sam dokaz tog razgovora.
Mislim da je vreme da odgovorite na moja veoma valjana pitanja.....
No. Wrong. I had NO idea the US was blacklisted until AFTER they banned my account. I also didn't know that they had no license until AFTER they banned my account. So good try on trying to make me look like the bad guy. I learned these things after I did some research of my own after being banned.
I was never involved in "irregular play or questionable activities". And, furthermore, if a casino just closes their players accounts for no reason at all...like Nanogames does...who wants to play there ? No one. Because that means they don't care at all about their players but are only there to steal their funds. And Nanogames does just that.
Instead of trying to make me look bad, why don't you explain why they don't have a license? Or why they allow people in the US to play there..knowing they are from the US when it is blacklisted ? That also proves that they break their own terms and conditions. Would you say that they are operating legally ?
I'd bet money that you work for them. Because no one in their right mind would support these scammers and thieves. But..while you're defending them...maybe you could also explain why they were caught manipulating roulette just last year by one of their own players and why they paid him money to be quiet about it ....I provided proof of that conversation.
I think it's time that YOU answer my very valid questions.....
Daću sve od sebe - postavljajte pitanja.
Kao što sam rekao, jednostavno ne razumem situaciju u potpunosti; neki tvoji postupci mi nisu imali mnogo smisla.
Šta kažete na ovo: "Da li biste se požalili ako vaš nalog ostane otvoren?"
Vidite, nemam zadovoljstva u sporovima, ali zvučite kao da ste na pogrešnom forumu - mi se ovde ne bavimo pravnim poslovima. Sve vam je ljubazno objašnjeno u žalbi. Ali evo, opet zahtevate...
Žao mi je, ne možemo vam pomoći. Svaki igrač je dobrodošao da izrazi svoje mišljenje jer sve žalbe ostaju javno vidljive - uključujući i vaše 👈👈
Želim vam malo pameti 🙏
I'll do my best - ask the questions.
As I said, I simply do not understand the situation in full; some of your actions did not make much sense to me.
How bout this one: " Would you complain if your account remained open?"
Look, I have no pleasure in disputes, but you sound like you are on the wrong forum - we do not handle legal affairs here. All has been politely explained to you in the complaint. But here, you are again demanding...
I'm sorry, we can't help you. Every player is welcome to create an opinion because all complaints remain publicly visible - yours included 👈👈
I wish you a piece of mind 🙏
Da li bih se žalio ako moj račun ostane otvoren? Apsolutno. Zato što je više nego primetno da se njihovim igrama manipuliše. Uhvaćeni su kako manipulišu svojom igrom ruleta I platili su igraču koji ih je uhvatio da ćuti o tome. Treba vam dokaz? Idite na Google i ukucajte „Nanogames manipulating roulette" i ceo razgovor je tamo.
Sada...moja pitanja su
1. Da li smatrate da je legalno da ovaj sajt radi bez licence?
2. Da li mislite da je legalno da ovaj sajt svesno dozvoljava igračima iz SAD da igraju kada je zemlja na crnoj listi?
3. Da li smatrate da je pošteno da ovaj kazino zabranjuje račune igrača I održava njihov balans kada taj igrač nije prekršio nijedan od njihovih uslova, već je samo rekao istinu? Da li je to pouzdano? Zar ne bi trebalo svima nama dozvoliti da kažemo istinu ili je to sada pogrešno?
Radujem se vašim odgovorima.
Would I complain if my account remained open ? Absolutely. Because it is more than noticeable that their games are being manipulated. They have been caught manipulating their roulette game AND paid the player who caught them to be quiet about it. Need proof ? Go to Google and type in "Nanogames manipulating roulette" and the entire conversation is there.
Now...my questions are
1. Do you feel it is legal for this site to be operating without a license?
2. Do you think it is legal for this site to knowingly allow players from the US to play when it is a blacklisted country ?
3. Do you feel it is fair that this casino bans player accounts AND keeps their balance when that player hasn't violated any of their terms and conditions but only stated the truth? Is that trustworthy ? Shouldn't we all be allowed to state the truth or is that wrong now ?
I look forward to your answers.
Pa....izgleda da ne želiš da odgovoriš na moja veoma valjana pitanja. Dakle, rekao bih da ili A) radite na neki način za Nanogames ili ste dobri prijatelji sa vlasnicima ili nekim ko vodi prevaru na sajtu. Trebate još pritužbi drugih igrača? I kako to da vaša recenzija sajta kaže da ste dobili -0- recenzija Nanogames-a kada ja lično znam za 8 ljudi koji su bivši igrači koji su ostavili negativne kritike o njemu upravo ovde na ovom sajtu?? Gde su te recenzije.. uključujući i moje? Pokušavate da ih sakrijete tako da vaša recenzija o njima deluje legitimno?
Well....looks like you don't want to answer my very valid questions. So, I'd say that you either A) work in some way for Nanogames or you are good friends with the owners or someone who runs the scam of a site. Need more complaints from other players ? And how come your review of the site says that you've received -0- reviews of Nanogames when I personally know of 8 people who are former players that have left negative reviews of it right here on this site ?? Where are those reviews.. including mine ? Trying to hide them so your review of them seems legit ?
Mislim da guglanje nečega nije najpouzdaniji izvor. Svako bi mogao da dođe i da vam kaže slične stvari. I nije moguće proceniti situaciju kao što je nameštanje igara na osnovu odlaska tamo i čitanja. Za to moraju postojati neprobojni dokazi.
Što se tiče vaših pitanja, mislim da vam je Radka već prilično dobro objasnila. Da li je nešto legalno ili nezakonito nije na nama da odlučujemo jer nismo pravnici. Činjenica je da mnoga kazina rade bez licence i na svakom igraču je da odabere da li će igrati u jednoj ili ne. Možda bi bilo bolje da istražite pre nego što odete negde da igrate.
Što se tiče kazina koji zabranjuje vaš nalog, kao što je takođe pomenuto „Kazina, generalno, imaju pravo da ograniče ili čak zatvore račune igrača ako sumnjaju na neregularnu igru ili druge sumnjive aktivnosti ili bez razloga.
Stanje koje pominjete ili bilo koje potencijalne nagrade ili „poeni lojalnosti" se ne smatraju pravim sredstvima već bonus novcem.
Mislim da je sve jasno objašnjeno i da se i dalje radi o istoj stvari.
I don't think googling something is the most reliable source. Anyone could come along and say similar things to you. And it's not possible to evaluate a situation like rigging games based on going there and reading it. There has to be bulletproof evidence for that.
As for your questions, I think Radka has already explained it to you quite well. Whether something is legal or illegal is not for us to decide because we are not lawyers. The fact is that many casinos operate without a license and it is up to each player to choose whether to play in one or not. It might be better to do your research before you go somewhere to play.
As for the casino banning your account, as also mentioned "Casinos, in general, have a right to restrict or even close players' accounts if they suspect irregular play or other questionable activities or for no reason at all."
The balance you mention or any potential rewards or "loyalty points" are not considered real funds but rather bonus money.
I think everything is clearly explained and it's still about the same thing.
Takođe želim da istaknem da ne radimo non-stop, a pošto je bio vikend pa je lepo sačekati ponovo radnu nedelju.
U svakom slučaju, da smo radili sa kazinom, verovatno ne bismo ponudili da pomognemo igračima da podnesu žalbu i pokušaju da im pomognemo.
Što se tiče korisničkih recenzija, osim vaše, za ovaj kazino nije stigla nijedna druga recenzija, tako da ne znam o čemu pričate. Vaša recenzija je morala da sačeka da se žalba završi da bi se procenila, tako da ništa nije bilo skriveno, ali je to bila normalna procedura kao i za sve ostale igrače.
Nadam se da ste razumeli šta sam napisao i da ćete ubuduće pažljivije birati kazina i da istraživanje ne bude poslednji korak.
Srećno.
I would also like to point out that we do not work nonstop, and since it was the weekend so it is nice to wait again for the working week.
Anyway, if we were working with casinos, we probably wouldn't have offered to help the players to set up a complaint and try to help them.
As far as user reviews are concerned, apart from yours, no other reviews have come in for this casino, so I don't know what you're talking about. Your review had to wait until the complaint was over to be evaluated, so nothing was hidden, but it was a normal procedure like for all other players.
I hope you understood what I wrote and in the future you will choose casinos more carefully and don't make research the last step.
Good luck.
Dakle, sada ćete reći da je razgovor između igrača koji je uhvatio Nanogames da manipuliše ruletom i stvarnih modova iz Nanogames-a koji se mogu naći na Google-u lažan? Ja ne mislim tako. Pročitaj ih. U tome nema ništa netačno. Taj pun razgovor je dokaz otporan na metke. Platili su igraču da ćuti o tome. Razgovor je došao pravo sa njihove platforme. Koliko pouzdaniji može biti?
I opet, zašto moja recenzija kazina još nije objavljena? Zatvorio si moj slučaj. Još uvek nije tu da ljudi vide. Zašto ? I zašto biste morali da „procenjujete" recenziju osobe? To je njihovo lično svedočanstvo o onome što su doživeli. A razlog za recenzije je taj što su oni tamo da bi drugi mogli da odluče da li je to mesto negde gde žele da odu. Bude fer. Objavljujte recenzije, bez obzira na to koliko mislite da je neko mesto legitimno. Ne misle svi kao ti. Dozvolite ljudima da donose sopstvene odluke na osnovu recenzija. Ne samo na osnovu onoga što kažete. Nisi bio njihov lojalan kupac. Bio sam. Duže vreme. Moje mišljenje je važno.
So you're now going to say that the conversation between the player who caught Nanogames manipulating roulette and the actual Mods from Nanogames which can be found on Google are fake ? I don't think so. Read them. There's nothing inaccurate about it. That full conversation is bulletproof evidence. They paid the player to be quiet about it. The conversation came straight from their platform. How much more reliable can it be ?
And again, why hasn't my review of the casino been posted yet ? You closed my case. It still isn't there for people to see. Why ? And why would you need to "evaluate" a person's review ? It is their personal testimony of what they experienced. And the reason for reviews is that they are there so others can decide whether that place is somewhere they want to go. Be fair. Post reviews, regardless of how legitimate you think a place is. Not everyone thinks like you do. Allow people to make their own decisions based on reviews. Not just based on what you say. You weren't a loyal customer of theirs. I was. For a long time. My opinion matters.
Oh, sad me cenzurišeš da ne mogu da odgovorim?
Oh so now you're censoring me so that I can't respond ?
Upravo sam poslao odgovor i dobio sam poruku da moj odgovor mora da proceni vaš administratorski tim. Zašto ? A zašto još kriješ moju recenziju?
I just submitted a reply and got a message back that my reply has to be evaluated by your Admin team. Why ? And why are you still hiding my review ?
Razgovor na Google-u došao je direktno sa platforme Nanogames. To je ceo razgovor između Nanogames Mods-a i igrača koji ih je uhvatio kako manipulišu. Koliko tačnije može biti?
The conversation on Google came straight from Nanogames platform. It is the entire conversation between Nanogames Mods and the player who caught them manipulating. How much more accurate can it be ?
Zašto „procenjujete" kritike? Drugi računaju na čitanje recenzija kako bi mogli da donesu odluku na osnovu tih recenzija. Vaše iskustvo je bilo vaše iskustvo. Tamo sam dugo bio veran igrač. Moje iskustvo je bilo mnogo drugačije. Dozvolite drugima da čitaju recenzije.
Why are you "evaluating" reviews ? Others count on reading reviews so that they can make a decision based on those reviews. Your experience was your experience. I was a loyal player there for a long time. My experience was much different. Allow others to read reviews.
Kažete da osim moje recenzije niko drugi nije došao u ovaj kazino. Možda ne ovde, ali pogledajte trustpilot. Postoji mnogo negativnih kritika o ovom kazinu. Tako da bih rekao da je moje iskustvo tačno
You say that apart from my review, no others have come in for this casino. Maybe not here, but look on trustpilot. There are plenty of negative reviews there of this casino. So I'd say my experience was accurate
kao što vidite, ovo pokazuje da je primljeno -0- recenzija o ovom kazinu. To nije istina. Bilo je 2 recenzije. Ali, nijedna nije objavljena. Zašto ne dozvoljavate ljudima da pišu na vašem sajtu? Zašto krijete recenzije kazina koje vam se očigledno sviđaju??
as you can see, this shows that -0- reviews have been received about this casino. That is not true. There have been 2 reviews. But, neither are posted. Why aren't you allowing people to review on your site ? Why are you hiding reviews of casinos that you obviously like ??
Dragi Korisniče!
Hvala vam puno na brizi, ali mislim da ste bili obavešteni toliko puta, zar ne?
Svaki put kada je bilo koja od vaših žalbi ili recenzija korisnika odbijena, poslali smo vam precizna objašnjenja – da vas podsetim:
Vaša neopravdana žalba : "Kao što je ranije pomenuto, nećemo nastaviti sa ovim slučajem ako kazino ne zadržava stvarna sredstva. Sve potencijalne nagrade ili bonusi nisu klasifikovani kao stvarna sredstva u ovom kontekstu."
Vaše odbijene korisničke recenzije: „Zdravo, i hvala vam na recenziji. Pošto opisuje problem u vezi sa vašom žalbom Casino Gurua, koja je upravo zatvorena kao neopravdana, odbijam i ovu korisničku recenziju. Hvala vam na razumevanju."
Kada je u pitanju pregled recenzija korisnika, kladim se da su naše smernice vredne pomena:
„3.10. Veb lokacija omogućava Korisnicima da pišu i objavljuju recenzije i ocene veb sajtova onlajn kazina. Korisnik garantuje da su ove recenzije tačne i istinite, kao i da predstavljaju istinsko iskustvo koje je Korisnik imao sa pregledanim onlajn kazinom. Korisnik je samo dozvoljeno da pregleda svaki onlajn kazino jednom. Korisniku nije dozvoljeno da pregleda onlajn kazina sa kojima imaju lični ili profesionalni odnos. Zadržavamo pravo da uklonimo ili izmenimo sve korisničke recenzije koje nisu u skladu sa ovim pravilima."
Drugi način na koji ste bili ažurirani - redovno - bili su e-poruke. Jeste li ih pročitali?
Zaista se nadam da sada potpuno razumete situaciju, pa ne mogu mnogo da dodam.🙏
Dear user!
Thank you very much for your concern, but I feel you've been informed so many times, wouldn't you say?
Each time any of your complaints or user reviews were rejected, we sent you precise explanations - let me remind you:
Your unjustified complaint: "As mentioned earlier, we will not proceed with this case if the casino is not withholding actual funds. Any potential rewards or bonuses are not classified as real funds in this context."
Your rejected user reviews: "Hello, and thank you for your review. Since it describes an issue related to your Casino Guru complaint, which was just closed as unjustified, I'm also rejecting this user review. Thank you for your understanding."
When it comes to reviewing user reviews, I bet our policies are worth mentioning:
"3.10. The Website allows Users to write and publish reviews and ratings of online casino websites. User warrants that these reviews are correct and true, as well as representative of a genuine experience the User has had with the reviewed online casino. User is only allowed to review each online casino once. User is not allowed to review online casinos with which they have a personal or professional relationship. We reserve the right to remove or edit any user reviews that do not comply with these rules."
Another way you were updated - regularly - were the emails. Have you read those?
I really hope you now, fully understand the situation hence, there is not much I can add.🙏
Zdravo. Takođe sam poslao svoju recenziju ovog kazina bez žalbe. Hajde da vidimo da li će moja recenzija biti objavljena jer mi je poznato i 8 drugih igrača iz ovog kazina koji su poslali negativne kritike Nanogames-a na vašem sajtu čije recenzije takođe nisu objavljene. Čini se da namerno ne dozvoljavate potrošačima da pišu negativne kritike o ovom i drugim kockarnicama sa kojima ste očigledno povezani. Snimio sam celu svoju recenziju i prijaviću zajednici onlajn igranja o vašoj očiglednoj pristrasnosti, zbog čega mnogi igrači gube novac jer ne dozvoljavate iskrene recenzije od onih koji imaju iskustva sa ovim kockarnicama...
Hello. I have submitted my own review also of this casino without issuing a complaint. Let's see if my review gets posted because I am also aware of 8 other players from this casino who have submitted negative reviews of Nanogames on your site whose reviews have also not been posted. It appears that you are intentionally not allowing consumers to write negative reviews of this and other casinos which you obviously are affiliated with. I have screenshot my entire review and will report to the online gaming community of your blatant bias, causing many players to lose their money because you don't allow honest reviews from those who have experience with these scam casinos...
Apsolutno si u pravu. Recenzije su napisane da drugima daju uvid u ono što ljudi doživljavaju...njihovo iskustvo...tako da drugi mogu sami da odluče da li žele ili ne da daju svoj posao na mesta. Nijedan pregled ne bi trebalo da bude „ocenjen" ili sakriven od potrošača. Pogledajte, na primer, Trust Pilot, koji odmah objavljuje recenzije korisnika, bez obzira na njihovo mišljenje. Rekao bih da je ovaj sajt mutan. Moja recenzija takođe nije objavljena. Smh. Ali vikend je pa ćemo videti da li će ga objaviti posle vikenda.
You're absolutely right. Reviews are written to give other's some insight on what people experience...their lived experience.....so that others can decide for themselves whether or not they want to give their business to places. No review should be "evaluated" or hidden from consumers. Look at Trust Pilot, for example, who posts user reviews immediately, no matter what their own opinion may be. I would say that this site is shady. My review also hasn't been posted. Smh. But it is a weekend so we'll see if they post it after the weekend.
"bilo koje potencijalne nagrade ili bodovi lojalnosti se ne smatraju pravim sredstvima, već bonus novcem"? Stvarno? Pa, kada vam ovaj kazino dodeli bonuse za povećanje nivoa, on se daje kao NND koji onda možete povući za KEŠ.....to JE PRAVA SREDSTVA. Ne postaje stvarnije od toga.
"any potential rewards or loyalty points are not considered real funds but rather bonus money" ? Really ? Well, when this casino awards you level up bonuses, it is given as NND which you can then withdraw for CASH.....that IS REAL FUNDS. It doesn't get any more real then that.
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Casino.guru je nezavistan izvor informacija o online kazinima i online kazino igrama, i nije kontrolisan od strane bilo kojeg operatora igara ili bilo koje druge institucije. Sve naše recenzije i vodiči su kreirani iskreno, u skladu sa najboljim znanjem i rasuđivanjem naših članova iz ekspertskog tima; ipak ovaj sadržaj je napravljen u informativne svrhe i ne bi smeo i trebao da se tumači kao pravni savet. Bitno je da uvek ispunite sve regulatorne zahteve pre nego počnete igrati u određenom kazinu.
Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali:
youremail@gmail.com
Link će isteći za 72 časa.
Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.
Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali: youremail@gmail.com
Link će isteći za 72 časa.
Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.