Zdravo!
Možda biste mogli da objasnite svoju zabrinutost svojim rečima. Tačno je da naš forum može automatski da prevede pisani tekst na većinu jezika, ali ne može da prevodi slike. Stoga sam siguran da bi vaš komentar bio cenjen. Pored toga, primetio sam da se ova e-pošta ili pismo, kako je zapravo napisano, odnosi na više od JustCasina; slobodno iznesite i to.
Na primer, „datirano 8. septembra 2023." je najznačajniji deo po mom mišljenju.
Pitam se šta se dogodilo od ovog upozorenja? Imate li pojma, molim vas?
Hi!
Maybe you could explain your concern in your own words. It is true that our forum can automatically translate written text into most languages, but it cannot translate images. I am therefore certain that your comment would be valued. Additionally, I noticed that this email or letter, as it is actually written, refers to more than just JustCasino; feel free to bring that up as well.
For example, "dated this 8 September 2023" is the most significant part in my opinion.
What has transpired since this warning, I wonder? Do you have a clue, please?
Poštovani korisniče.
Šta kažete na moje pitanje, molim vas? Imate li možda nešto novije?
Kad smo kod toga, da li ste ikada igrali u ovom kazinu i bili svedok nečeg neobičnog, ili ste jednostavno zabrinuti?
Bojim se da nema šta da se doda ako ne možemo da razgovaramo o pojedinostima.
Dear user.
How about my question, please? Do you perhaps have something more recent?
Speaking of which, have you ever played in this casino and witnessed something unusual, or are you simply generally concerned?
I fear there is little to add if we can't discuss specifics.
Naravno, igrao sam u ovom kazinu i osvojio dva puta, veliki iznos za mene, 300.000 evra, ali sam prvi put izgubio jer sam bio pohlepan, ali drugi put kada sam pobedio, počeli su sporovi sa kazinom pod izgovorom kršenja pravila koja igračima nisu bila jasna. Takođe su mi otkazali opkladu jednom u utakmici. Blackjack kada sam trebao da osvojim strejt fleš i skoro dva puta u ruletu, ali sam se kladio na velike opklade, a takođe su mi delimično zatvorili nalog, pošto sam mogao da se prijavim i zatražim povlačenje, ali nisam mogao da igram ni u jednoj igri na sajtu kazina vvv.justcasino.com, bez prethodnog upozorenja, zatvorili su moj nalog i tražili KIC zahteve, a ja sam ispunio sve njihove zahteve tokom otprilike nedelju dana. Zatim su povukli sav iznos mog profita i zatvorili moj račun trajno!! Zar nisu mogli da sumiraju ovu stvar od početka, ili su se predomislili i odbili da mi plate?
Of course, I played in this casino and won twice, a large amount for me, 300,000 euros, but I lost the first time because I was greedy, but the second time when I won, disputes began with the casino under the pretext of violating rules that were not clear to the players. They also canceled my bet one time in a game. Blackjack when I was about to win straight flush and almost twice in roulette, but I was betting on large bets, and they also partially closed my account, as I could log in and request a withdrawal, but I could not play In any game on the casino website www.justcasino.com, without prior warning, they closed my account and asked for KYC requests, and I fulfilled all their requests over the course of about a week.. Then they withdrew all the amount of my profits and closed my account permanently!! Weren't they able to summarize this matter from the beginning, or did they change their mind and refuse to pay me?
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Od: VIP iz Odnosi sa igračima < >
Datum: sre, 20. novembar 2024. u 13:05
Predmet: Re: Zahtevam telefonski poziv na arapskom ako je moguće
od njih: Zdravo Fahad,
Vaši dobici u kojima ste premašili maksimalnu opkladu su bili od nedeljnog bonusa Mlečnog puta.
Pošto se radi o bonusu, primenjuju se uslovi i odredbe bonusa.
Opet, dobit će u takvom slučaju biti zaplenjena, ali uprava je pristala da vam zadrži 5.000 evra za povlačenje.
Sesije igre su proverene i maksimalni ulog je prekršen, odluka administracije je konačna.
Heba,
VIP menadžer naloga
od mene : Dobrodošli, draga.
Ovo nije moj prvi put ili prvi sajt na kojem igram, čak i ako postoji bonus koji ima uslove. Ako prekršim uslove, iznos dobijen bonusom će biti automatski konfiskovan, a ne ručno. Ovo mi se desilo kada je moj nalog zatvoren. Oduzeto mi je sa bilansa. Bilo je otprilike 137.000 evra i postalo je otprilike 132.000. Jasno je da je odbitak ručno, a ne automatski. Ako je to samo novčani iznos, pravi saldo, možete ga uneti i zapleniti. Znam metodu. Želim da proverim kod License Curacao. Mora da postoji transparentnost i svojim očima vidim da postoji bonus ili balans.
moj pozdrav
od njih: zdravo Fahad,
Vaši dobici u kojima ste premašili maksimalnu opkladu su bili od Nedeljnog bonusa Mlečnog puta.
Pošto je u pitanju bonus, primenjuju se uslovi i odredbe bonusa.
Opet, dobit će u takvom slučaju biti zaplenjena, ali je uprava pristala da vam zadrži 5.000 evra za povlačenje.
Sesije igre su proverene i maksimalni ulog je prekršen, odluka administracije je konačna.
Heba,
VIP menadžer naloga
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Zašto uslovi i odredbe nisu primenjeni prvi put kada je osvojio isti sporni iznos na isti način, depozit + bonus?
To je zato što sam izgubio sav svoj profit, a nedelju dana kasnije su odlučili da mi drugi put uskrate ogroman profit. Takođe, organizacija Curacao daje uslov za pojašnjenje igračima, uz potpunu transparentnost sa njima, ali gde je ta transparentnost kada sam od njih tražio dokaze o njihovim tvrdnjama?
i danas se ovo ćaskanje dešava sa njima, ona tvrdi da je to slabo ime Mikei Vai-a
Da li je postavljanje slika ekrana jasno i transparentno za ovakve kazino igrače?
Takođe, kao što sam joj poslao mejlom, pogledajte odgovor. Da li postoji jasnoća i transparentnost kao što zahteva Lista organizacija Curacao??
---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: VIP from Player Relations <vip@justcasino.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2024 at 13:05
Subject: Re: i request a phone call please in arabic if possible
To: <falenizi36@gmail.com>
from them: Hello Fahad,
Your winnings where you exceeded the maximum bet were from the Weekly Milky Way bonus.
Since it is a bonus, bonus terms and conditions apply.
Again, the profits will be confiscated in such a case, but the management has agreed to keep 5,000 euros for you to withdraw.
Game sessions have been checked and the maximum bet has been violated, the decision of the administration is final.
Heba,
VIP Account Manager
from me : Welcome, dear.
This is not my first time or the first site I play on, even if there is a bonus that has conditions. If I violate the conditions, the amount won by the bonus will be automatically confiscated, not manually. This is what happened to me when my account was closed. It was deducted from my balance. It was approximately 137,000 euros and became approximately 132,000. It is clear that the deduction is manual, not automatic. If it is just a cash amount, a real balance, you can enter and confiscate it. I know the method. I want to check with License Curacao. There must be transparency and I see with my own eyes that there is a bonus or balance.
my regards
from them: hello Fahad,
Your winnings where you exceeded the maximum bet were from the Weekly Milky Way bonus.
Since it is a bonus, bonus terms and conditions apply.
Again, the profits will be confiscated in such a case, but the management has agreed to keep 5,000 euros for you to withdraw.
Game sessions have been checked and the maximum bet has been violated, the decision of the administration is final.
Heba,
VIP Account Manager
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Why were the terms and conditions not applied the first time when he won the same disputed amount in the same way, deposit + bonus?
This is because I lost all my profits, and a week later they decided to deprive me of the huge profit the second time. Also, the Curacao organization gives a condition for clarification to the players, along with complete transparency with them, but where is that transparency when I asked them for proof of their claims?
and today this chat happens with them she claim its a weakly mikey way name
Is the placement ofscreenshot images clear and transparent to casino players like this?
Also, as I sent to her via email, look at the response. Is there clarity and transparency as required by the List of Curaçao organizations??
Zdravo!
Vidite? Sada svi možemo prilično jasno razumeti vašu zabrinutost. Bravo!
Pošto se radi o prilično složenom skupu informacija, mislim da ne bi bilo loše da pomenete i vašu žalbu .
Ako mi dozvolite malo pojednostavljenja, problem je što ste dali veće opklade od dozvoljenih zbog aktivnog bonusa. Takođe ste priznali da znate da bonusi dolaze sa ograničenjima, ali ste očekivali da će opklade veće od dozvoljenih biti otkazane „automatski". Slobodno me ispravite.
Ključna stvar, po mom mišljenju, je kako termini ocrtavaju posledice postavljanja takvih opklada, kao i radnje koje kazino preduzima u vašem konkretnom slučaju.
Pored toga, pomenuli ste zanimljivo pitanje:
" Zašto uslovi i odredbe nisu primenjeni prvi put kada je osvojio isti sporni iznos na isti način, depozit + bonus? To je zato što sam izgubio sav svoj profit, a nedelju dana kasnije su odlučili da me liše ogromnog profita drugi put".
Pošto ste izgubili novac, pretpostavljam da kazino nije morao da se bavi opkladama i nije morao da gleda u vašu istoriju igara da bi odobrio povlačenje. Kada ste pobedili po drugi put, uspeli ste da podnesete povlačenje — je li tako, molim vas?
Ovo je, nažalost, potpuno drugačiji scenario; nakon povlačenja, zaposleni u kazinu potvrđuju da su dobici ostvareni u skladu sa svim važećim uslovima.
Međutim, želeo bih da razjasnim da iako vidim zašto verujete da je trebalo da znaju da ste dali takve opklade, ja bih iskreno predvideo tačan scenario koji sam upravo opisao.
Dalje, tvrdite da je najava nejasna, ali kako to protivreči vašem sopstvenom priznanju da ste potpuno svesni da svaki bonus ima uslove? Mislim, kako ste dvaput utvrdili da vam je ovaj bonus koristan ako ovi zahtevi nisu navedeni na snimcima ekrana? Pitam se kako ste očekivali otkazivanje previsokih opklada? Verujem da je izuzetno opasno prihvatiti bonus bez potpunog razumevanja uslova; osim toga, izgleda da ste bili svesni ograničenja.
Iako je vrlo uobičajeno da se uslovi objašnjavaju u uslovima i odredbama bonusa, rekao bih da bi u idealnom svetu srodni uslovi i odredbe bili pomenuti na istoj stranici kao i bonus. Na primer, mislimo da bi takve ključne informacije trebalo da budu udaljene samo dva klika.
Pošto znam da je to frustrirajuća situacija za vas, nadam se da moja pitanja pokazuju da cenim svaku povratnu informaciju koju imate.
U svakom slučaju, nadam se da će vaša žalba uskoro biti prilično rešena, a ako želite da nas obavestite o situaciji, učinite to.
Hi!
You see? Now we can all understand your concern pretty clearly. Good job!
Since it is a pretty complex set of information, I think it would not be a bad idea to mention your complaint as well.
If you allow me a bit of simplification, the problem is that you placed higher bets than allowed due to an active bonus. You also admitted you know bonuses come with restrictions, but you expected higher-than-allowable bets to be cancelled "automatically." Please feel free to correct me.
The key point, in my opinion, is how the terms outline the consequences of placing such bets as well as the actions taken by the casino in your specific case.
Additionally, you mentioned an interesting question:
"Why were the terms and conditions not applied the first time when he won the same disputed amount in the same way, deposit + bonus?This is because I lost all my profits, and a week later they decided to deprive me of the huge profit the second time."
Since you lost the money, I suppose the casino did not have to deal with the bets and did not need to look into your gaming history in order to authorize the withdrawal. When you won for the second time, you managed to submit a withdrawal—is that so, please?
This is regrettably an entirely different scenario; after the withdrawal is made, the casino employees verify that the winnings have been made in accordance with all applicable conditions.
However, I would like to clarify that while I can see why you believe they should have known you had placed such bets, I would honestly anticipate the exact scenario I just described.
Furthermore, you claim that the announcement is unclear, but how does that contradict your own admission that you are fully aware that every bonus has terms? I mean, how did you determine twice that this bonus is beneficial to you if these requirements are not stated in the screenshots? How did you anticipate the cancellation of the excessively high bets, I wonder? I believe it is extremely dangerous to accept a bonus without fully understanding the terms; additionally, it appears that you were aware of the restrictions.
Although it is very common for the terms to be explained in the bonus terms and conditions, I would say that in an ideal world, the related terms and conditions would be mentioned on the same page as the bonus. For instance, we think that such crucial information should only be two clicks away.
Since I know it must be a frustrating situation for you, I hope my questions show that I value any feedback you may have.
In any event, I hope your complaint is fairly resolved soon, and if you would like to update us on the situation, please do so.
Zdravo Radka
Govorim o njihovim tvrdnjama, a istovremeno pokušavam da vam prenesem svoju temu, a već sam poslao dokaze da nagrada nije besplatna i da slabo mlečni put ima maksimalan limit od 400 USD. Kako je onda bila nagrada od 2000 evra? Da li razumete na šta mislim?
Sada pogledajte razgovor sa njima putem mejla i znaćete kako su odgovori bili nejasni i netransparentni kod mene, jer sam ja pobedio svojim trudom, ali su me lišili profita.
U mojim razgovorima sa njima putem mejla, oni tvrde da je to 2000 evra od pobede na turniru, i to nije besplatno, već je prilično besplatno, neograničeno uslovima. koje mogu da povučem ili da se igram sa njim. Vrlo je normalno da jednostavno nisam ništa prekršio, ali oni traže bilo kakav izgovor samo da mi ne prebace profit.
a Mlečni put u suštini nije turnir. To je samo jedna od posebnih promocija njihovog sajta i obavezana je uslovima i odredbama
Pogledajte ovde limit za bonus, koji je samo 400 USD, pa kako da tvrde da je preko mejla bilo 2000 evra?!
Ovde postaje jasno da transparentnost i kredibilitet ne postoje, a ja nisam video ništa što bi ukazivalo na verodostojnost njihovih reči. Nije li ovo jedan od uslova za licenciranje organizacije Curacao?
i Da li mi treba više pojašnjenja od ovoga?
Hello Radka
I am talking about their claims, and at the same time I am trying to convey my topic to you, and I have already sent proofs showing that the reward is not free and that the weakly milky way has a maximum limit of 400 USD. So how was the reward amounting to 2000 euros? Do you understand what I mean?
Now look at the conversation with them via email and you will know how the responses were unclear and not transparent with me because I won through my effort but they deprived me of the profit.
In my conversations with them via email, they claim that it is 2000 euros from winning a tournament, and it is not free, but its rather free cash, not restricted by conditions,. which I can withdraw or play with. It is very normal that I simply did not violate anything, but they are looking for any excuse just to not transfer the profit to me.
and The Milky Way is not essentially a tournament. It is just one of their site’s special promotions and is bound by terms and conditions
Look at the limit for the bonus here, which is only 400 USD, so how can they claim that it was 2000 euros via email?!
Here it becomes clear that transparency and credibility do not exist, and I did not see anything indicating the credibility of their words. Isn’t this one of the conditions for licensing the Curaçao organization?
and Do I need more clarification than this?
Hvala vam što ste objasnili šta stoji iza cele ove situacije. Iako sam sada malo zbunjen. Ali daću sve od sebe da razumem vaše stavove!
Možete li mi ljubazno pomoći sa ovim?
Šta znači "nagrada nije besplatna", molim vas?
Ako ovaj turnirski bonus dolazi sa uslovima navedenim van snimaka ekrana, mislim da bi bilo najbolje da ih kopirate i nalepite ovde.
Kladim se da kazino treba da objasni da su dobici bili veći nego što ste očekivali. Imao sam duhovitu misao: da li je moguće da je predstavnik kazina opisivao drugačiji bonus jer je koristio pogrešan naziv bonusa ili turnira?
Iskreno, ne znam šta da mislim o tome.
Thank you for explaining what is behind this whole situation. Though I'm a bit confused now. But I'll do my best to understand your points!
Could you kindly help me with these?
What does it mean "the reward is not free," please?
If this tournament bonus comes with conditions mentioned outside of the screenshots, I think it would be best to copy and paste them here.
I bet the casino needs to explain the winnings were higher than you expected. I had a humorous thought: could it be that the casino representative was describing a different bonus because they used the wrong bonus or tournament name?
I honestly do not know what to think about it.
Neki provajderi organizuju turnire na sajtovima kazina i to je besplatna gotovina koja nije ograničena uslovima bonusa na bilo kom kazino sajtu. Nakon što se turnir završi, oni dele ove nagrade igračima sa najvišim pozicijama, a ove nagrade su besplatna gotovina koja nije ograničena određenim uslovima i politikama. U svom prethodnom mejlu, objasnio sam neke od kontradiktornosti u odgovorima koje su dobili putem e-pošte
Kako možete da tvrdite da je to šampionski bonus od 2000 evra
U drugom imejlu, ona kaže da je povezana sa Mlečnim putem, napominjući da Mlečni put ima najviše 400 dolara??
Da li vam i dalje treba dodatno pojašnjenje od toga da oni jednostavno ne žele da plate moj veliki profit?
Some providers organize a tournament on casino sites and it is free cash that is not restricted by the bonus conditions at any casino site. After the tournament ends, they distribute these rewards to the players with the highest positions, and these rewards are free cash that is not restricted by certain conditions and policies.. In my previous email, I explained some of the contradictions in the responses they received via email
How can you claim that it is a championship bonus worth 2000 euros
In another email, she says that she is affiliated with Milky Way, noting that Milky Way has a maximum of $400??
Do you still need more clarification than that they just don't want to pay my big profit?
Zdravo!
Zaista sam zainteresovan da razumem problem. Nažalost, nisam upoznat sa ovim kazinom i ovom intrigantnom karakteristikom turnira. Dakle, ono što se vama čini prilično očiglednim, meni nije toliko očigledno. Sa snimka ekrana, nemam pojma da saznam da li ste razmenjivali e-poštu sa podrškom za kazino ili nekom vrstom podružnice ili dobavljača igara, na primer. To je samo "VIP iz odnosa sa igračima", što je prilično čudno.
„Kako možete tvrditi da je to šampionski bonus od 2000 evra"
Dakle, ne znam odgovor.
Ali, da sam na vašem mestu, koristio bih isti pristup - pitajte kazino, provajdera igara ili ko god da je pomenuo 2000 evra umesto 400 evra i zahtevajte da objasnite to + pravila, na primer.
Slažem se da komunikacija između druge osobe i vas nije od velike pomoći. Cilj je, međutim, da se stvar reši, a ne da mi nekako dokažete da kazino ne želi da vam plati. Dakle, sve što možete da uradite da dobijete nešto korisno od kazina ili pridruženog preduzeća je dobar potez.
Ako moram da pogađam, rekao bih da su i pridruženi i kazino predstavnik zbunjeni. Da li ste pokušali da ih kontaktirate tako što ste pokazali šta je druga osoba do sada rekla?
Hi!
I'm really interested in understanding the issue. Sadly, I'm not familiar with this casino and this intriguing tournament feature. So, what seems pretty obvious to you is not that obvious to me. From the screenshot, I have no clue to find out whether you were exchanging email with casino support or some sort of affiliate or game provider, for instance. It is just " VIP from Player Relations," which is quite odd.
"How can you claim that it is a championship bonus worth 2000 euros"
Hence, I do not know the answer.
But, If I were you, I would use the same approach - ask the casino, the game provider, or whoever mentioned €2000 instead of €400 and demand explaining that + the rules, for instance.
I agree that the communication between the other person and you is not very helpful. The goal, however, is to resolve the matter, not somehow prove to me that the casino does not want to pay you. So, everything you can do to get something useful from the casino or affiliate is a good move.
If I have to guess, I would say both the affiliate and the casino rep are confused. Did you attempt to contact them by displaying what the other person had said thus far?
hi radka
vip odnosi su kazino. Nikada ne razgovaram sa provajderom igara na mejlove.. Pokazujem vam kontradikciju u meni, nedostatak jasnoće u mojim pitanjima i proizvoljnost u mojoj komunikaciji
Ovo pokazuje da zaslužujem da pobedim, ali suma je velika za njih. i moje je loše što sam izabrao tamo onlajn kazino da igram ovo je moja loša
hi radka
vip relations is the casino i never speak with a game provider on emails .. I show you the contradiction in me, the lack of clarity in my questions, and the arbitrariness in my communication
This shows that I deserve to win, but the amount is large for them. and its my bad that i choose there online casino to play this is my bad
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Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali:
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Link će isteći za 72 časa.
Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.
Proverite svoj inboks i kliknite na link koji smo Vam poslali: youremail@gmail.com
Link će isteći za 72 časa.
Proverite svoj "Spam" ili "Promotions" folder ili kliknite na dugme ispod.
Konformacioni e-mail je poslat ponovo.