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The player from Ireland claimed he had been scammed by 20bet casino, losing 9187€ after experiencing smooth initial withdrawals. After receiving VIP status, his subsequent withdrawal requests faced continual delays, cancellations, and additional document requests. Ultimately, his account was closed following the decline of a request for funds that consisted solely of his deposited amount. We reviewed all information and confidential evidence provided by the casino and concluded that the account closure and confiscation of funds were supported by the casino's Terms and Conditions. Therefore, the complaint was rejected as insufficient grounds existed to recommend the return of the funds.
Igrač iz Irske tvrdio je da ga je prevario kazino 20bet, izgubivši 9187€ nakon što je imao glatko početno povlačenje novca. Nakon što je dobio VIP status, njegovi kasniji zahtevi za povlačenje su se suočavali sa stalnim kašnjenjima, otkazivanjima i zahtevima za dodatnom dokumentacijom. Na kraju, njegov nalog je zatvoren nakon odbijanja zahteva za sredstva koja su se sastojala isključivo od iznosa koji je uplatio. Pregledali smo sve informacije i poverljive dokaze koje je kazino pružio i zaključili smo da su zatvaranje naloga i konfiskacija sredstava potkrepljeni Uslovima i odredbama kazina. Stoga je žalba odbijena jer nije bilo dovoljno osnova da se preporuči povraćaj sredstava.
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Kazino 20bet me je upravo prevario za 9187€
Moje prvo povlačenje je obrađeno veoma glatko, ali je moj račun bio negativan za oko -3000€. U međuvremenu sam čak dobio VIP status i VIP menadžera, međutim, nakon što sam ostvario izvestan profit i želeo da podignem mali deo, počeli su da se bave sumnjivim praksama.
Obrada zahteva za povlačenje je odložena, posle nekoliko dana su je otkazali i tražili novi dokument, sa svakim novim zahtevom koji su obrađivali, došlo je do petlje.
Prošli put kada su mi tražili izvod iz banke i selfi sa ličnom kartom i brojem, dokumenti su odobreni i podneo sam zahtev za novo povlačenje, iako je poslednje povlačenje u osnovi bilo novac koji sam im uplatio, danas su to odbili zbog...
Razlog odbijanja: „Tehnologija"
i zatvorio mi je račun.
Moj nalog je bio potpuno verifikovan, igrao sam sports&casino i nisam radio ništa nezakonito, takođe nisam koristio nikakve bonuse.
Hello
20bet casino has just scammed me out of 9187€
My first withdrawal was processed very smoothly but my account was negative for about approximately -3000€. Meanwhile I even got a VIP status and VIP manager however after I made some profits and wanted withdraw small part they started doing shady practices.
Withdrawal request processing got delayed, after few days they canceled it and asked for new document, on every new request they process looped.
Last time they requested from me bank statement and selfie with id and number, documents got approved and I made requested new withdrawal, despite that last withdrawal was basically the funds I deposited to them, today they declined it due
Reason of decline: "Tech"
and closed my account.
My account was fully verified, I played sports&casino and did not do any illegal things also I did not use any bonuses.
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Dragi/a g1rvan1,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je zbog vašeg problema. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih mogao u potpunosti da razumem celu situaciju.
Možete li mi, molim vas, reći da li ste imali preostali novac na svom kazino nalogu pre nego što ste izgubili pristup?
Da li ste izgubili pristup svom nalogu direktno nakon što ste podneli dokumenta za KYC verifikaciju?
Da li ste kontaktirali korisničku podršku kazina putem e-pošte da biste pitali o razlogu blokiranja vašeg naloga?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće.
Unapred vam se mnogo zahvaljujem na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Atila
Imajte u vidu da ako se stvar isključivo odnosi na sportsko klađenje, sa žaljenjem vas obaveštavamo da vam nećemo moći pomoći jer nemamo odeljenje koje se bavi takvim pitanjima.
Dear g1rvan1,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I'm sorry to hear about your problem. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Could you please advise if you had any remaining real money balance in your casino account before you lost access?
Have you lost access to your account directly after submitting the documents for the KYC verification?
Have you contacted the casino customer support via email to ask about the reason why your account was blocked?
I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible.
Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Attila
Please note that if the matter becomes solely related to sports betting, we regret to inform you that we won't be able to assist you as we do not have a department handling such issues.
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Zdravo Atila,
Da, imao sam 9.187€ na računu, to su bili moji pravi dobici i depoziti bez bonusa.
Ne, nakon svakog od moja tri ili četiri zahteva za povlačenje, traženo mi je da dostavim dodatnu dokumentaciju. Nakon što sam dostavio poslednju fotografiju i izvod, moj nalog je i dalje bio dostupan i moji dokumenti su verifikovani. Zatvoren je dan ili dva nakon što sam zatražio povlačenje 4.000 evra.
Jesam, ali kada sam pitao koja sam tačno pravila prekršio, grubo su mi odgovorili da bi trebalo da pročitam njihova pravila.
Hello Attila,
Yes, I had 9,187€ in my account, these were my real winnings and deposits without bonuses.
No, after each of my three or four withdrawal requests, I was asked to submit additional documentation. After submitting the last photo and statement, my account was still accessible and my documents were verified. It was closed a day or two after I requested the €4,000 withdrawal.
Yes, I did, but when I asked what specific rules I broke, they rudely replied that I should read their rules.
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Takođe sam kontaktirao svog VIP menadžera, ali čak je i on bio ignorisan i nije mogao da mi pomogne oko ovog nepravednog zatvaranja naloga.
Želeo bih da napomenem da su moji ukupni depoziti u njihovom kazinu 4.535€, prethodno su obradili isplatu od 1.508,49€ bez ikakvih problema, ali kao što sam napomenuo, u to vreme sam bio u negativnom profitu, i nakon zatvaranja računa, napisali su da će mi vratiti poslednji depozit, 888€, što bi značilo da ne samo da kradu sve moje dobitke već i 2138,51€ mojih sopstvenih sredstava koja sam uplatio.
Potpuno odbacujem ovu opciju i očekujem povraćaj celog akumuliranog iznosa.
I also contacted my VIP manager but even he was also ignored and could not help me with this unfair account closure.
I would like to mention that my total deposits to their casino are 4,535€, they previously processed a withdrawal of 1,508.49€ without any problem, but as I mentioned, I was in negative in profits at the time, and after closing the account, they wrote that they would refund my last deposit, 888€, which would mean that they are not only stealing all my winnings but also 2138.51€ of my own funds that I deposited.
I completely reject this option and expect a refund of the entire accumulated balance.
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Hvala vam na saradnji i što ste nam pružili sve potrebne informacije. Zaista cenim vreme i trud koji ste uložili da sve do sada podelite sa nama.
Vaša žalba će sada preći u sledeću fazu našeg procesa i njome će se baviti vaš dodeljeni rešavač, Samjuel ( samuel.s@casino.guru ). Ovo je standardni korak u našoj proceduri, jer će Rezolver direktno preuzeti komunikaciju sa kazinom i upravljati vašim slučajem od ove tačke pa nadalje.
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Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš slučaj uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.
Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Samuel (samuel.s@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.
No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.
I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Kind regards,
Attila
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Dragi/a g1rvan1,
Drago mi je što smo se upoznali putem e-pošte. Zovem se Samjuel i od sada ću vam pomagati sa vašom žalbom.
Ako ima nekih novosti ili detalja od vaše poslednje poruke, molim vas da ih podelite sa mnom.
Kao deo naše standardne procedure, takođe pozivam predstavnika 20Bet kazina da se pridruži ovom razgovoru. Njihov doprinos bi trebalo da nam pomogne da efikasnije pokrenemo slučaj.
Poštovani 20Bet kazino,
Molimo vas da pružite detaljne informacije o problemu igrača, posebno tačne razloge zašto je nalog zatvoren i dobici konfiskovani, uključujući sva navodna kršenja pravila ili relevantne uslove i odredbe.
Hvala vam na saradnji i blagovremenom odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Samuel
Dear g1rvan1,
It’s nice to e-meet you. My name is Samuel, and I’ll be assisting you with your complaint from now on.
If there are any updates or new details since your last message, please share them with me.
As part of our standard procedure, I’m also inviting a representative from 20Bet Casino to join this conversation. Their input should help us move the case forward more efficiently.
Dear 20Bet Casino,
Please provide detailed information regarding the player’s issue, specifically the exact reasons why the account was closed and the winnings were confiscated, including any alleged rule violations or relevant terms and conditions.
Thank you for your cooperation and a timely response.
Best regards,
Samuel
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Zdravo,
Nakon pregleda slučaja, želeli bismo da pojasnimo da je nalog zatvoren zbog ozbiljnih problema sa verifikacijom, uključujući dokumenta koja nisu prošla naše provere.
Poslednji depozit klijenta je vraćen. Status „Tehnološki" se odnosi na standardni tehnički razlog za otkazivanje zahteva za povlačenje i ne znači da su sredstva otkazana iz tog razloga.
Sve mere su preduzete u skladu sa našim Uslovima i odredbama i internim bezbednosnim procedurama.
Hello,
After reviewing the case, we would like to clarify that the account was closed due to serious verification concerns, including documents that did not pass our checks.
The customer’s last deposit was refunded. The "Tech" status refers to a standard technical cancellation reason for the withdrawal request and does not mean that the funds were cancelled for that reason.
All actions were taken in accordance with our Terms and Conditions and internal security procedures.
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Odgovor predstavnika 20bet-a je obmanjujući. Nakon zatvaranja mog naloga, nisam dobio nikakav povraćaj novca od 20bet-a, a sva dokumenta koja sam podneo su verifikovana i prihvaćena, što dokazuju njihovi statusi u odeljku „verifikacija naloga". Moj pasoš i ostala dokumenta koja sam podneo bili su autentični i originalni. Potpuno ne razumem zašto sam optužen za falsifikovanje tek nakon što sam ostvario značajan profit, a ne nakon mog prvog povlačenja sredstava, koje je obrađeno bez ikakvih problema.
Hello
The 20bet representative's response is misleading. After closing my account, I didn't receive any refund from 20bet, and all the documents I submitted were verified and accepted, as evidenced by their statuses in the "account verification" section. My passport and other documents I provided were authentic and genuine. I completely fail to understand why I was accused of forgery only after making significant profits, and not after my first withdrawal, which was processed without any issues.
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam na ažuriranju.
Dragi/a g1rvan1,
Hvala vam na pojašnjenju i što ste podelili svoje gledište na situaciju. Razumem vašu zabrinutost u vezi sa vremenom rešavanja problema sa verifikacijom i zabunom oko povraćaja novca i provere dokumenata.
Poštovani 20Bet kazino,
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koji tačno dokumenti su smatrani problematičnim ili nisu prošli verifikaciju,
kada su ovi problemi prvi put otkriveni,
i potvrdu u vezi sa prijavljenim povraćajem igračevog poslednjeg depozita (uključujući referencu transakcije ili dokaz o izvršenju).
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Bez ovih detalja, nije moguće pravilno proceniti doslednost objašnjenja kazina.
Čekam vaš odgovor i traženu dokumentaciju.
Hello everyone,
thank you for the update.
Dear g1rvan1,
thank you for your clarification and for sharing your perspective on the situation. I understand your concerns regarding the timing of the verification issues and the confusion around the refund and document checks.
Dear 20Bet Casino,
at this stage, I would kindly ask you to provide specific supporting evidence for your statements so I can properly assess the case.
In particular, I would appreciate clarification regarding:
which exact documents were considered problematic or failed verification,
when these issues were first detected,
and confirmation regarding the reported refund of the player’s last deposit (including transaction reference or proof of execution).
If any of the requested materials contain sensitive or confidential information, you may send them directly to my email at samuel.s@casino.guru instead of posting them in the complaint thread.
Without these details, it is not possible to properly evaluate the consistency of the casino’s explanation.
I will await your response and the requested documentation.
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Zdravo Samjuele,
Poslali smo vam privatnu e-poštu sa dodatnim informacijama i dokazima u vezi sa ovim slučajem.
Molim vas da ga pregledate kada budete imali priliku.
Hvala vam.
Hi Samuel,
We have sent you a private email with additional information and supporting evidence regarding this case.
Please kindly review it when you have a chance.
Thank you.
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam obojici na saradnji tokom ove žalbe.
Dragi/a g1rvan1,
Nakon pažljivog pregleda svih dostupnih informacija, uključujući poverljive dokaze koje mi je kazino direktno dostavio putem e-pošte, zaključio sam da ne mogu da osporim odluku kazina u ovom slučaju.
Dokazi koje je kazino dostavio potkrepljuju razloge za zatvaranje naloga i preduzete mere. Na osnovu svega što sam pregledao, smatram da je kazino postupio u skladu sa svojim Uslovima i odredbama i nemam dovoljno osnova da preporučim vraćanje oduzetih sredstava.
Iz tog razloga, odbacujem ovu žalbu.
Razumem da ovo nije ishod koji ste očekivali i žao mi je što nisam mogao više da vam pomognem. Takođe bih preporučio da budete dodatno oprezni tokom budućih postupaka verifikacije i da se uverite da sva dostavljena dokumenta u potpunosti ispunjavaju zahteve kazina.
Hvala vam obojici na saradnji.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Samuel
Kazino Guru
Hello everyone,
thank you both for your cooperation throughout this complaint.
Dear g1rvan1,
after carefully reviewing all the information available, including the confidential evidence provided to me directly by the casino via email, I have concluded that I am unable to challenge the casino's decision in this case.
The evidence submitted by the casino supports the reasons for the account closure and the measures that were taken. Based on everything I have reviewed, I find that the casino acted in accordance with its Terms and Conditions, and I do not have sufficient grounds to recommend that the confiscated funds be returned.
For this reason, I am rejecting this complaint.
I understand that this is not the outcome you were hoping for, and I am sorry that I could not be of more assistance. I would also recommend exercising extra caution during future verification procedures and ensuring that all submitted documents fully comply with the casino's requirements.
Thank you both for your cooperation.
Best regards,
Samuel
Casino Guru
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