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The player from Finland had submitted a withdrawal request less than two weeks before contacting us. Winnings had not been obtained up to that day. The player claimed the casino had confiscated his €3200 winnings without valid reason, disputing the casino's assertion that he had breached bonus terms by betting over €5, which he denied. Despite providing account verification and communication evidence, the casino had failed to respond to our inquiries. Consequently, the complaint was marked as unresolved due to lack of cooperation from the casino, and the player was advised to pursue alternative dispute resolution through eCOGRA or the Malta Gaming Authority.
Igrač iz Finske je podneo zahtev za isplatu manje od dve nedelje pre nego što nas je kontaktirao. Do tog dana dobici nisu isplaćeni. Igrač je tvrdio da mu je kazino konfiskovao dobitak od 3200 evra bez valjanog razloga, osporavajući tvrdnju kazina da je prekršio uslove bonusa kladeći se preko 5 evra, što je on negirao. Uprkos pružanju dokaza o verifikaciji naloga i komunikaciji, kazino nije odgovorio na naše upite. Shodno tome, žalba je označena kao nerešena zbog nedostatka saradnje kazina, a igraču je savetovano da potraži alternativno rešavanje sporova putem eCOGRA ili Malteške uprave za igre na sreću.
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Dakle, uplatio sam 150 evra i dobio bonus na depozit od 100% i dobio sam dobitak i uložio sam novac i prvo sam podigao 1400 evra, a zatim sam podigao 1800 evra. Dakle, ukupno 3200, a danas je kazino poslao imejl da isplata nije prihvaćena jer je opklada navodno bila preko 5 evra, što nije istina. Jesam kupio bonus kupovine koje su koštale više stotina, ali opklada nije prešla 5 evra ni u jednom trenutku. Na primer, kupio sam bonus u vrednosti od 200 evra za mentalnu igru sa opkladom od 0,20 centi. Uslovi i odredbe bonusa takođe to ne zabranjuju.
So, I deposited 150e and got a 100% deposit bonus and I got a win and I wagered the money and first I withdrew 1400e and then I withdrew 1800e. So 3200 in total and today the casino sent an email that the withdrawal was not accepted because the bet was supposedly over 5euro which is not true, I did buy bonus purchases that cost many hundreds but the bet did not exceed 5euro at any point. For example, I bought a bonus worth 200euro for the mental game with a bet of 0.20 cents. The bonus terms and conditions do not prohibit this either.
Eli siis, talletin 150e ja sain 100% talletusbonuksen ja sain voiton ja kierrätin rahat ja kotiutin ensin 1400e ja sen jälkeen kotiutin 1800e. Eli 3200 yhteensä ja tänään kasino laittoi sähköpostin että kotiutusta ei ole hyväksytty koska panos olisi ollut muka yli 5euroa mikä ei pidä paikkaansa, ostin kyllä bonusostoja jotka maksoivat monia satoja mutta panos ei ylittänyt 5 euroa missään vaiheessa. Esim ostin mental peliin 0.20 sentin panoksella 200 euron arvoisen bonuksen. Bonuksen ehdoissakaan ei tätä kielletä.
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Mi isključivo kontaktiramo igrače kroz oficijalni kanal za prigovore ili putem @casino.guru e-mail adrese. Uvek proverite domen pošiljaoca i proverite email adresu tako što ćete kliknuti na avatar koji se vidi u okviru kanala za prigovore.
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We only contact players through this official complaint thread or via @casino.guru e-mail addresses. Always check the sender’s domain and verify your complaint resolver’s e-mail address by clicking on their avatar visible inside the official complaint thread.
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Poštovani Santeri,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli prigovor. Žao nam je što čujemo za problem sa isplatom i razumemo vašu zabrinutost. Međutim, imajte na umu da je prilično uobičajeno da povlačenja potraju nekoliko dana ili čak nedelja da se u potpunosti obrađuju. To znači da može proći neko vreme pre nego što se novac pojavi na vašem računu. Ovo kašnjenje može biti uzrokovano nedovršenom KYC verifikacijom ili velikim brojem zahteva za isplate. Zbog toga savetujemo igrače da budu strpljivi, da u potpunosti sarađuju sa kazinom i da sačekaju najmanje 14 dana nakon zahteva za povlačenje pre nego što podnesu prigovor.
Ako je vaš nalog uspešno verifikovan, vaša istorija igara proverena, vaše povlačenje odobreno od strane kazina, a još uvek niste primili svoje dobitke 14 dana od zahteva za povlačenje, mi ćemo intervenisati i dati sve od sebe da vam pomognemo. Hvala unapred na strpljenju i razumevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav, Centar za rešavanje žalbi
Dear Santeri,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. We are sorry to hear about the issue with your withdrawal and understand your concern. However, please bear in mind that it’s quite usual for withdrawals to take a couple of days or even weeks to get fully processed. This means that it may take some time before your money appears in your account. This delay may be caused by unfinished KYC verification or a high volume of withdrawal requests. That’s why we advise players to be patient, cooperate fully with casino, and wait at least 14 days after requesting their withdrawals before submitting a complaint.
If your account has been successfully verified, your game history checked, your withdrawal approved by the casino, and you still haven't received your winnings by 14 days since requesting the withdrawal, we will intervene and do our best to help you. Thank you in advance for your patience and understanding.
Best regards, Complaints Resolution Center
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Želeo bih da naglasim da ovo nije osnovno odlaganje povlačenja, već je kazino već odbio moj zahtev za povlačenje i konfiskovao moj dobitak potpuno bez razloga.
Pregledao sam uslove i odredbe bonusa kazina i oni zabranjuju klađenje više od 5 evra prilikom ulaganja bonus novca, i nisam prekršio ovo pravilo.
I would like to emphasize that this is not a basic withdrawal delay, but the casino has already rejected my withdrawal request and confiscated my winnings completely without reason.
I have reviewed the casino's bonus terms and conditions and they prohibit betting more than 5 euros when wagering bonus money, and I have not broken this rule.
Haluaisin painottaa että kyseessä ei ole perus noston viivästyminen vaan kasino on jo hylännyt nostopyyntöni ja takavarikoinut voittoni täysin ilman syytä.
Olen käynyt läpi kasinon bonusehdot ja siellä kielletään yli 5 euron panoksella pelaaminen kierrättäessä bonusrahoja ja tätä kyseistä sääntöä en ole rikkonut.
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Zdravo, razgovarao sam sa korisničkom službom i oni i dalje misle da ako kupim bonus u vrednosti od 50 eura sa ulogom od 0,20 eura, na primer, onda je moja opklada bila 50 eura. To nije tačno, posebno kada uslovi i odredbe njihove kampanje to ne pominju. Njihovi uslovi i odredbe kampanje zabranjuju opklade preko 5 eura kada je bonus aktivan, a ja nisam prekršio ovo pravilo. Razumeo bih situaciju da je u uslovima i odredbama njihove kampanje navedeno da je kupovina bonusa dok je bonus aktivan zabranjena, baš kao što to rade neki kazina i posebno to pominju u uslovima i odredbama svoje kampanje. Po mom mišljenju, 247bet kazino je grubo konfiskovao 3200 eura koje sam osvojio bez ikakvog razloga. Nedavno sam osvojio iznos novca od drugog kazina sa sličnim bonusom dobrodošlice od 100% i njihovi uslovi i odredbe kampanje imali su isti uslov da je igranje sa ulogom preko 5 eura zabranjeno. Čak i tada, dok je bonus bio aktivan, kupio sam bonus u vrednosti od 500 evra sa ulogom od 0,20 centi i posebno sam pitao njihovo osoblje da li je to dozvoljeno i rekli su mi da je vaš ulog bio 0,20e, a ne 500e. Nadam se da mi možete pomoći da vratim svoj dobitak.
Imam mnogo snimaka ekrana mojih razgovora sa Aspom, i čak i na tim, mnogi odgovori koje sam dobio od Aspe bili su veoma pomešani.
Hi, I had a discussion with customer service and they still think that if I buy a bonus worth 50e with a 0.20e BET, for example, then my bet has been 50e. This is not true, especially when their campaign terms and conditions do not mention this. Their campaign terms and conditions prohibit bets over 5e when the bonus is active and I have not broken this rule. I would understand the situation if their campaign terms and conditions mentioned that making purchase bonuses while the bonus is active is prohibited, just like some casinos do and mention it separately in their campaign terms and conditions. In my opinion, 247bet casino has grossly confiscated the 3200e I won for absolutely no reason. I recently won a sum of money from another casino with a similar 100% welcome bonus and their campaign terms and conditions had the same condition that playing with a bet over 5e is prohibited. Even then, while the bonus was active, I bought a bonus worth 500 euros with a bet of 0.20 cents and I asked their staff separately if this was allowed and they said that your bet was 0.20e and not 500e. I hope you can help me get my winnings back.
I have many screenshots of my conversations with Aspa, and even in those, many of the answers I received from Aspa were very mixed.
Hei, kävin keskustelua asiakaspalvelun kanssa ja he ovat edelleen sitä mieltä että jos ostan 0.20e PANOKSELLA esim 50e arvoisen bonuksen niin panokseni on ollut 50e. Tämähän ei pidä paikkaansa, varsinkaan silloin kun heidän kampanjaehdoissakaan tätä ei mainita. Heidän kampanjaehdot kieltävät yli 5e panokset silloin kun bonus on aktiivinen ja tätä sääntöä en ole rikkonut. Ymmärtäisin tilanteen jos heidän kampanjaehdoissa mainittaisiin että ostobonusten tekeminen bonuksen ollessa aktiivinen on kielletty juuri niin kuin jotkut kasinot tekevätkin ja mainitsevat sen erikseen heidän kampanjaehdoissaan. Mielestän 247bet casino on törkeästi takavarikoinut voittamani 3200e täysin ilman mitään syytä. Voitin hetki sitten toiselta casinolta rahasumman juuri samanlaisella 100% tervetuliaisbonuksella ja heidän kampanjaehdoissa oli juuri samanlainen ehto että yli 5e panoksella pelaaminen on kielletty, ostin silloinkin bonuksen ollessa aktiiivinen yhden 500 euron arvoisen bonuksen 0.20 sentin panoksella ja kysyin vielä erikseen heidän aspasta että onko tämä sallittua ja se sanoivat että panoksesi on ollut 0.20e eikä 500e. Toivon että autatte minua saamaan ansaitsemani voittoni takaisin.
Minulla on monta screenshottia käymistäni keskusteluista aspan kanssa ja niissäkin monet vastaukset joita aspalta sain olivat erittäin sekalaisia.
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Poštovani Santeri,
Nadam se da ste dobro. Pošto je preporučeni vremenski okvir sada prošao, da li biste mogli da nas obavestite o tome da li je vaš zahtev za isplatu uspešno primljen ili da li je došlo do novih dešavanja u vezi sa vašim slučajem? Hvala vam na izdvojenom vremenu i radujem se vašem odgovoru.
Dear Santeri,
I hope you are doing well. As the recommended time frame has now passed, could you kindly update us on whether your withdrawal has successfully been received or if there have been any new developments regarding your case? Thank you for your time, and I look forward to your response.
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Zdravo. Moje povlačenje je još uvek zadržano u kazinu.
Hello. My withdrawal is still being held at the casino.
Hei. Nostoni on edelleen casinolla takavarikoituna.
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Karla
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Dragi Santeri, hvala ti na odgovoru. Dozvoli mi da ti postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih mogao/mogla u potpunosti da razumem celu situaciju.
Da li ste ranije uspešno povlačeli novac?
Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da ste prošli KYC verifikaciju?
Da li ste akumulirali svoje dobitke sa ili bez aktivnog bonusa?
Da li ste igrali kazino igre ili se kladili na sport?
Možete li, molim vas, podeliti vašu komunikaciju sa kazinom u vezi sa odloženim isplaćivanjem? Pošaljite imejlove ili transkripte ćaskanja na moju imejl adresu karla.m@casino.guru , ili postavite snimke ekrana ovde.
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Karla
Dear Santeri, thank you for your response. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Have you made any successful withdrawals before?
Could you please confirm that you have passed the KYC verification?
Did you accumulate your winnings with or without an active bonus?
Did you play casino games or bet on sports?
Could you please share your communication with the casino regarding the delayed withdrawal? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at karla.m@casino.guru, or post screenshots here.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Karla
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Santeri
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Već sam objasnio sve vezano za situaciju u svojim prethodnim objavama i objavio snimke ekrana razgovora koje sam vodio sa Aspom.
I have already explained everything related to the situation in my previous posts and posted screenshots of the conversations I had with Aspa.
Olen jo kertonut kaiken tilanteeseen liittyvän ylemmissä viesteissäni ja laittanut kuvakaappauksia aspan kanssa käymistä keskusteluista.
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Karla
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Dragi Santeri,
Hvala vam na poruci. Razumem da ste već podelili detalje u vezi sa situacijom i bonus igrom.
Međutim, kako bismo pravilno procenili vaš slučaj, ljubazno vas molim da razjasnite nekoliko važnih tačaka na koje još uvek nije odgovoreno:
Da li ste ranije uspešno isplaćivali novac iz ovog kazina?
Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da li je vaš nalog u potpunosti verifikovan (da li je KYC završen)?
Pored toga, iako ste podelili neke snimke ekrana, ljubazno bih vas zamolio da nam dostavite kompletnu komunikaciju sa kazinom (imejlove ili transkripte ćaskanja) u vezi sa konfiskacijom vašeg dobitka. Možete ih otpremiti ovde ili poslati na karla.m@casino.guru .
Unapred vam hvala na saradnji. Radujem se vašem odgovoru kako bismo mogli da nastavimo sa istragom.
Karla
Dear Santeri,
Thank you for your message. I understand that you have already shared details regarding the situation and the bonus gameplay.
However, in order for us to properly assess your case, I kindly need to ask you to clarify a few important points that have not yet been answered:
Have you made any successful withdrawals from this casino in the past?
Could you please confirm whether your account has been fully verified (KYC completed)?
Additionally, while you have shared some screenshots, I would kindly ask you to provide the full communication with the casino (emails or chat transcripts) regarding the confiscation of your winnings. You can either upload them here or send them to karla.m@casino.guru.
Thank you very much in advance for your cooperation. I look forward to your reply so we can proceed with the investigation.
Karla
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Nisam ranije podigao novac iz kazina. I moj nalog je verifikovan.
I dalje tvrde da sam igrao sa ulogom većim od 5 e, što definitivno nije tačno.
I haven't made any withdrawals from the casino before. And my account is verified.
They still claim that I have played with a stake of more than 5e, which is definitely not true.
En ole tehnyt ennemmin kasinolta kotiutuksia. Ja tilini on vahvistettu.
he edelleen väittävät että olen pelannut yli 5e panoksella mikä ei todellakaan pidä paikkaansa.
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Dragi Santeri,
Hvala vam na saradnji i što ste nam pružili sve potrebne informacije. Zaista cenim vreme i trud koji ste uložili da sve do sada podelite sa nama.
Vaša žalba će sada preći u sledeću fazu našeg procesa i njome će se baviti vaš dodeljeni rešavač, Peter Č., ( peter.c@casino.guru ). Ovo je standardni korak u našoj proceduri, jer će Rezolver direktno preuzeti komunikaciju sa kazinom i upravljati vašim slučajem od ove tačke pa nadalje.
Trenutno nije potrebna nikakva akcija od vas. Vaš rešavač će vas kontaktirati putem ove teme ako budu potrebni dodatni detalji. Možete biti sigurni da je vaš slučaj u veoma sposobnim rukama.
Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš slučaj uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
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Dear Santeri,
Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.
Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Peter Č., (peter.c@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.
No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.
I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Kind regards,
Karla Mayfly
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Peter
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Zdravo,
Hvala Santeri što si nam pružio/la sve informacije. Nadam se da ćemo zajedno uspeti da rešimo ovaj problem.
Sada bih želeo da zamolim 247Bet Casino za pomoć u rešavanju ove žalbe. Želeli bismo da znamo u čemu je problem i šta možemo da uradimo da pomognemo igraču da dobije svoj dobitak.
Hvala vam!
Hello there,
Thank you Santeri for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.
I would now like to ask 247Bet Casino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know what the issue is and what we can do to help the player receive their winnings.
Thank you!
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Peter
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Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
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Peter
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Više puta sam pokušao da kontaktiram kazino, ali bezuspešno. Bojim se da se ne može mnogo postići bez saradnje sa njihove strane. Označiću žalbu kao „nerešenu" u našem sistemu. Razumem da ovo nije zadovoljavajuće rešenje za vaš problem. Međutim, smanjenje ocene uzrokovano nerešenim žalbama može pomoći u promeni pristupa kazina. Ako kazino odluči da reaguje, ponovo ćemo otvoriti žalbu i bićete obavešteni putem e-pošte. U međuvremenu, preporučujem vam da kontaktirate eCOGRA – alternativnu službu za rešavanje sporova ( https://ecogra.org/alternative-dispute-resolution/ ) i podnesete im žalbu. Sarađuje sa Upravom za igre na sreću i ima bolje opcije i alate za pomoć igračima. Sledeći korak bi bio kontaktiranje same Uprave za igre na sreću Malte ( https://www.mga.org.mt/player-hub/lodge-a-complaint/ ). Molim vas da me obavestite ako vam je potrebna pomoć oko popunjavanja obrasca ili kako je ADR odgovorio ako to možete sami da uradite ( peter.c@casino.guru ). Žao mi je što nisam mogao/mogla biti od veće pomoći u ovoj prilici.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petar
I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly but had no success. I’m afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from its side. I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints might help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email. In the meantime, I recommend you contact the eCOGRA – an alternative dispute resolution service (https://ecogra.org/alternative-dispute-resolution/) and submit a complaint to them. It collaborates with the Gaming Authority and has better options and tools to help players. The next step would be contacting the Malta Gaming Authority itself (https://www.mga.org.mt/player-hub/lodge-a-complaint/). Please let me know if you need help with filling the form or how the ADR responded if you can do this on your own (peter.c@casino.guru). I am sorry I could not be of more help on this occasion.
Best regards,
Peter
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