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BC.Game Casino - Računi igrača su zatvoreni zbog problema sa povlačenjem novca.
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The player from Pennsylvania reported that BC Game had allowed him to create accounts and gamble despite being from a prohibited jurisdiction. When he attempted to withdraw his funds, his accounts were blocked, and he was unable to access his winnings or deposits due to KYC requirements. He claimed that this practice amounted to stealing from users. The Complaints Team concluded that, while the casino should have paid out winnings to players from restricted countries, the player’s complaint could not be assisted because the time elapsed since the incident exceeded six months, making it difficult to investigate effectively. Additionally, the player had failed to provide sufficient evidence to support claims related to self-exclusion and responsible gambling, leading to the rejection of the complaint.
Igrač iz Pensilvanije je prijavio da mu je BC Gejm dozvolio da kreira naloge i kocka se iako je iz zabranjene jurisdikcije. Kada je pokušao da povuče svoja sredstva, njegovi računi su blokirani i nije mogao da pristupi svojim dobicima ili depozitima zbog KYC zahteva. Tvrdio je da se ova praksa svodi na krađu od korisnika. Tim za žalbe je zaključio da, iako je kazino trebalo da isplati dobitke igračima iz zemalja sa ograničenim kockanjem, žalba igrača nije mogla biti uvažena jer je vreme proteklo od incidenta duže od šest meseci, što je otežalo efikasnu istragu. Pored toga, igrač nije pružio dovoljno dokaza koji bi potkrepili tvrdnje u vezi sa samoisključenjem i odgovornim kockanjem, što je dovelo do odbijanja žalbe.
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Važno obaveštenje:
Casino Guru nikada neće tražiti uplate ili pristup Vašem nalogu da bi se kompletirala KYC procedura. Ukoliko neko tvrdi da je iz našeg tima i traži nešto slično, nemojte deliti svoje lične informacije.
Mi isključivo kontaktiramo igrače kroz oficijalni kanal za prigovore ili putem @casino.guru e-mail adrese. Uvek proverite domen pošiljaoca i proverite email adresu tako što ćete kliknuti na avatar koji se vidi u okviru kanala za prigovore.
Ako Vam nešto izgleda sumnjivo, kontaktirajte nas direktno.
Ponašajte se odgovorno.
Important notice:
Casino Guru will never ask for payments or access to your accounts to complete KYC. If someone claims to be from Casino Guru and does that, do not share any information.
We only contact players through this official complaint thread or via @casino.guru e-mail addresses. Always check the sender’s domain and verify your complaint resolver’s e-mail address by clicking on their avatar visible inside the official complaint thread.
If anything seems suspicious, contact us directly.
Stay safe.
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Zdravo,
Hvala vam puno što ste poslali žalbu. Žao mi je što ste imali negativno iskustvo sa BC.Game kazinom.
Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih bolje razumeo situaciju.
Možete li, molim vas, reći koliko dugo ste bili igrač u kazinu i kada vam je tačno nalog blokiran?
Kako ste saznali da vam je nalog blokiran?
Koje ste igre igrali da biste akumulirali svoj trenutni saldo u kazinu? (slotovi, igre uživo, klađenje na sport)
Da li ste postigli svoje trenutno stanje uz pomoć bonusa?
Možete li mi, molim vas, objasniti šta sporni iznos od 40.000 dolara predstavlja u vašoj situaciji?
Da li ste nedavno ili u prošlosti završili verifikaciju u kazinu?
Možete li, molim vas, podeliti sa mnom vašu komunikaciju sa kazinom u vezi sa problemom? Pošaljite imejlove ili transkripte ćaskanja na moju imejl adresu tomas@casino.guru ili postavite snimke ekrana ovde
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tomas
Hello,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with BC.Game Casino.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions so I can better understand the situation.
Could you please advise how long you were a player at the casino and when exactly your account was blocked?
How did you learn about your account being blocked?
What games did you play to accumulate your current balance in the casino? (slots, live games, betting on sports)
Did you achieve your current balance with the help of a bonus?
Could you please advise what the disputed amount of $40000 represents in your situation?
Have you completed verification in the casino recently or in the past?
Could you please share with me your communication with the casino regarding the issue? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at tomas@casino.guru, or post screenshots here
I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Tomas
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Bio sam član oko dve godine. Stalno sam gubio hiljade dolara, a onda sam na poslednjem depozitu uložio mnogo novca i moj račun je imao stanje od oko 15.000 američkih dolara. Moj račun je bio blokiran i nije mi bilo dozvoljeno da izvršim podizanje novca, čak ni nakon što sam kontaktirao njihov tim za podršku i odgovorio na sva pitanja koja su postavili.
BC Game mi nikada nije dozvolio da podignem ova sredstva, ali mi je I JOŠ uvek dozvolio da se kockam i uplaćujem depozite.
Kladio sam se na slotove, igre uživo, sportsko klađenje itd. Iako sam dobio malu količinu bonus novca, to nije rezultiralo mojim najnovijim dobicima.
Ukupan iznos spora se odnosi na moje ukupne depozite kriptovaluta, za oba računa koja sam ranije pomenuo. Ukupan iznos u američkim dolarima je oko 60.000 dolara.
KYC verifikacija nikada nije tražena dok nisam osvojio novac, a onda je moj račun bio ograničen za isplate. Posle nekoliko dana, jedina opcija koju mi je ponudio BC Game tim bila je da se kockam i uplaćujem depozite, bez isplata. Moj pravi novac se pretvorio u bezvredni virtuelni novac nakon što je uplaćen na račun, bez ikakve šanse da zaradim novac ili čak da vratim uplaćeni novac.
Snimci ekrana mojih razgovora sa njihovim timom za podršku su u prilogu.
I was a member for about two years. I constantly lost thousands of dollars then on my most recent deposit, I made a lot and my account had a balance of around $15,000 USD. My account was blocked and I was not allowed to make a withdrawal, even after contacting their support team and answering all questions they asked for.
B.C. Game never allowed me to withdraw these funds but STILL allowed me to gamble and make deposits.
I placed bets with slots, live games, betting on sports, etc.. Although I received small amount of bonus money, it did not result in my most recent winnings.
The total dispute amount is in regards to my total deposits of cryptocurrency, for both account I mentioned previously. Total amount in USD is around $60,000.
KYC verification was never asked for until I won money, then my account was restricted from withdrawals. After a few days, the only option I was given by BC Game team, was to gamble and make deposits, no withdrawals. My real money turned into worthless play money once deposited into the account, with no chance to make money or even get my deposited money back.
Screenshots of my conversations with their support team is attached.
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Hvala na objašnjenju.
Možete li, molim vas, navesti kada je vaš nalog u kazinu blokiran?
Thanks for the explanation.
Could you please specify when your account in the casino was blocked?
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Oba naloga su blokirana pre oko godinu dana, BC Game bi mogao tačno da odgovori na to.
Both accounts were blocked around a year ago, BC Game would be able to answer that accurately.
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Hvala na detaljnom objašnjenju situacije.
Generalno, naše gledište je da ako kazino dozvoljava igračima iz zemlje sa ograničenim pristupom da se registruju, trebalo bi da isplate igračeve dobitke.
Žao nam je, ali nismo u mogućnosti da vam pomognemo sa vašom žalbom. Zbog vremena koje je prošlo od incidenta koji ste opisali – pre više od šest meseci – više nismo u mogućnosti da efikasno istražimo stvar. Naša politika nam ne dozvoljava da pokrećemo slučajeve koji se smatraju „nerešenim slučajevima", jer prikupljanje dokaza i rekonstrukcija tačne vremenske linije postaje previše teško nakon takvog perioda.
Thanks for the detailed explanation of the situation.
In general, our point of view is that if the casino allows players from a restricted country to register, they should pay out the player's winnings.
We’re sorry, but we are unable to assist you with your complaint. Due to the amount of time that has passed since the incident you described—more than six months ago—we are no longer able to investigate the matter effectively. Our policy does not allow us to pursue cases that are considered "cold cases," as collecting evidence and reconstructing an accurate timeline becomes too difficult after such a period.
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Ponovo smo otvorili ovu žalbu na zahtev korisnika michael.suminski. Želeli bismo da ovom slučaju pružimo još jednu šansu da se reši i pomognemo obema stranama da dođu do zadovoljavajućeg zaključka.
Poruka igrača:
Razumem zašto ne vodite računa o nerešenim slučajevima zbog nedostatka prateće dokumentacije i nemogućnosti pronalaženja fajlova. Međutim, imam fleš disk pun prateće dokumentacije, zajedno sa zahtevom podnetim SGBOK-u (u prilogu).
Dobra stvar kod kripto transfera je to što se zapis prikazuje zauvek gde možete jasno videti sredstva prebačena u novčanike povezane sa BC Game-om.
Imam dosta informacija za podeliti iz proteklih šest meseci i više. Samo mi je potrebno da guru kazina posreduje u mojoj opravdanoj žalbi kompaniji BC Game.
We’ve reopened this complaint at the request of michael.suminski. We would like to allow this case one more chance to be resolved and help both parties involved to reach a satisfactory conclusion.
Player's message:
I understand why you do not pursue cold cases due to the lack of supporting documentation and inability to locate files. However, I have a thumb drive full of supporting documentation, along with a claim filed with SGBOK (attached).
The good thing about crypto transfers, is that the record is shown forever where you can clearly see the funds transferred into wallets associated with BC Game.
I have plenty of information to share within the past six months and older. I just need casino guru to mediate my justified complaint with BC Game.
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Dragi igraču,
Ljubazno vas molimo da dostavite dokaze o vašem pokušaju samoisključenja, uključujući zahteve za samoisključenje poslate kazinu sa vremenskim oznakama.
Možete slati transkripte ćaskanja gde tražite pomoć ili bilo koju srodnu komunikaciju.
Ovaj je post Casino Guru učinio privatnim. Sadrži osetljive informacije koje treba da vide samo strane uključene u prigovor.
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Hvala vam na saradnji. Pregledao/la sam dostavljene informacije.
Imajte u vidu da mi ova datoteka nije dostupna za pregled:
Ljubazno vas molimo da dostavite dokaze da je kazino trebalo da vas spreči da igrate, jer je bio obavešten o vašoj zavisnosti od kockanja.
Radujem se vašem odgovoru.
Thanks for your cooperation. I went over the provided information.
Please note this file is not accessible for me to review:
Kindly provide evidence that the casino should have prevented you from playing, due to being informed of your gambling addiction.
Looking forward to your reply.
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Ta datoteka koju ne možete da učitate je već priložena u jednom od dokumenata koje sam vam poslao imejlom.
Spor je poslat BC Game-u putem e-pošte 5.3.2022. godine, pošto je od mene tražena dodatna identifikacija, koju sam i dostavio (u prilogu). Nakon što sam dostavio ovu sliku, nisam dobio odgovor na pismo sa prigovorom. Preko ćaskanja uživo sam obavestio njihov tim da imam problem sa kockanjem, zatražio da budem stavljen na crnu listu i čak rekao da sam stanovnik SAD. Tim BC Game-a je imao moje lične podatke, ali mi je dozvolio da napravim drugi nalog pod istim imenom, istim iPhone uređajem, istom jurisdikcijom u SAD i dozvolio mi je da uplatim i kockam kriptovalute u vrednosti hiljada dolara. Tek kada sam zaradio oko 15.000 dolara, bilo mi je zabranjeno da vršim bilo kakva isplatu. BC Game mi nije ostavio mogućnost da vratim svoj novac nakon što sam ponovo dostavio svoje identitetske podatke, godinama kasnije. Čak i tada, BC Game mi je samo dozvolio da nastavim sa kockanjem, bez ograničenja u tome, čak i nakon što su znali da sam stanovnik SAD. Jedina opcija koju sam imao bila je da se kockam sa sredstvima koja su ostala na mom računu, jer mi je bilo zabranjeno da vršim BILO KAKVO isplaćivanje.
That file you’re unable to load is already attached in one of the documents I sent you via email.
The dispute was sent to BC Game via email on 5/3/22, as I was asked for further identification, which I provided (attached). After providing this picture I didn’t receive a response of my dispute letter. Through live chat I notified their team that I had a gambling problem, asked to be blacklisted and even said that I am a USA resident. BC Game team had my personal information, yet allowed me to create another account under my same legal name, same iPhone device, same jurisdiction in the USA and allowed me to deposit and gamble thousands of dollars worth of cryptocurrency. It wasn’t until I made around $15,000, I was restricted from making any withdrawals. BC Game left me with no option to get my money back after I provided my identity information again, years later. Even then, BC Game only allowed me to continue gambling, with no restriction of doing so, even after they knew I was a US resident. The only option I had was to gamble the funds that remained in my account, as I was forbidden from making ANY withdrawals.
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Hvala na pojašnjenju.
Da li ste sačuvali interakciju sa podrškom gde ste ih obavestili o svojoj zavisnosti od kockanja?
Možete li, molim vas, navesti kada vam je kazino poslednji put dozvolio da uplatite depozit na bilo koji od računa?
Molim vas, obavestite me.
Thanks for the clarification.
Have you saved the interaction with support where you informed them about your gambling addiction?
Could you please specify when was the last time the casino allowed you to deposit on either account?
Please let me know.
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Tomas
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Dragi michael.suminski,
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear michael.suminski,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
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Nemam sačuvanu interakciju, ali je poslata BC Game-u putem imejla, gde navodim svoju zavisnost od kockanja.
Moj poslednji depozit bi morali da podignu na moj(e) račun(e).
I do not have the interaction saved but it was sent to BC Game via email, where I state my gambling addiction.
My last deposit they would have to pull up on my account(s).
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Tomas
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Hvala na pojašnjenju.
Izvinjavam se, ali bez relevantnih dokaza nećemo moći da se suočimo sa kazinom u vezi sa njihovom obavezom da vas zaštite. Ovi dokazi su nam ključni da bismo nastavili sa povraćajem sredstava koja su korišćena za kockanje.
Zbog gore navedenih razloga, sada ćemo odbaciti ovu žalbu. Hvala vam na razumevanju. Iskreno mi je žao što nismo bili u mogućnosti da vam efikasnije pomognemo u ovoj konkretnoj situaciji, jer uvek težimo da pomognemo igračima da reše svoje probleme kad god je to moguće.
Molimo vas da imate u vidu da nas možete ponovo kontaktirati ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti. Bilo da je u pitanju pitanje, nedoumica ili novi problem koji treba ispitati, naš tim je tu i spreman da vam pomogne.
Thanks for the clarification.
I apologize, but without the relevant evidence, we won't be able to confront the casino regarding their obligation to protect you. This evidence is crucial for us to proceed with the assistance of funds that were used for gambling.
Due to the aforementioned reasons, we will now proceed to reject this complaint. Thank you for your understanding. I am genuinely sorry that we were not able to assist you more effectively in this particular situation, as we always aim to help players resolve their issues whenever possible.
Please remember that you are welcome to contact us again if you run into any problems with this or any other casino in the future. Whether it is a question, a concern, or a new issue that needs to be looked into, our team is here and ready to support you.
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