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BitStarz Casino - Igračeva isplata je konfiskovana.
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Naša presuda
Neopravdana žalba
Iznos:
3.000 $
BitStarz Casino
Index sigurnosti
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Rezime slučaja
Prevod
The player from Spain faced issues withdrawing his winnings of 3,000 euros after submitting several documents, only to be informed that he was from a restricted country and that his funds would not be returned. He felt that this practice was unfair, as he had been allowed to deposit money without issue. We reviewed the case and the casino’s evidence showed that he had registered with inaccurate residence details and had used VPN connections to bypass Spain’s restriction. As a result, we found the account closure justified and rejected the complaint, with the casino confirming that his latest deposit had been returned.
Igrač iz Španije se suočio sa problemima prilikom povlačenja svog dobitka od 3.000 evra nakon što je podneo nekoliko dokumenata, samo da bi bio obavešten da je iz zemlje sa ograničenjima i da mu sredstva neće biti vraćena. Smatrao je da je ova praksa nepravedna, jer mu je bilo dozvoljeno da uplati novac bez problema. Pregledali smo slučaj i dokazi kazina su pokazali da se registrovao sa netačnim podacima o prebivalištu i da je koristio VPN veze da bi zaobišao ograničenje Španije. Kao rezultat toga, utvrdili smo da je zatvaranje računa opravdano i odbacili smo žalbu, a kazino je potvrdio da je njegov poslednji depozit vraćen.
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Defretered
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Javno
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Nakon godina igranja sa istim nalogom, uplatio sam ogromnu količinu novca. Ponekad sam podizao male iznose i oni su mi vraćani bez ikakvih problema. Međutim, kada sam osvojio 3.000 evra, tražili su mi sve vrste fotografija, dokumenata itd. Nakon što su sve predali i rečeno im je da je moja dokumentacija u redu, uzeli su novac, vratili 80 evra na moj račun i rekli mi da sam ga podigao, da sam iz zemlje sa ograničenim pristupom i da mi neće vratiti taj novac. Da li je to uopšte legalno? Dozvoljeno mi je da igram samo dok uplaćujem novac; kada pokušam da podignem nešto vredno, oni me ukradu. Potrošio sam toliko sati pokušavajući da zaradim taj novac.
After years of playing with the same account, I deposited a huge amount of money. I sometimes withdrew small amounts and they were given to me without any problem. However, when I won 3,000 euros, they asked me for all sorts of photos, documents, etc. After handing everything over and being told that my documentation was in order, they took the money, returned 80 euros to my account, and told me that I had withdrawn it, that I'm from a restricted country, and that they wouldn't give me that money back. Is that even legal? I'm only allowed to play while I'm depositing money; when I try to withdraw something worthwhile, they steal from me. I wasted so many hours trying to earn that money.
Después de años jugando con la misma cuenta, metí muchísimo, muchísimo dinero... Alguna vez saqué cantidades bajas y me las dieron sin problema. Sin embargo, cuando gane 3mil... Me pidieron todo tipo de fotos, documentación etc... Después de entregarlo todo y decirme que la documentación está en regla. Me quitan el dinero, me devuelven 80€ a la cuenta y me dicen que lo saqué, que soy de un país restringido y que no me dan ese dinero... Eso se puede hacer? Solo soy apto para jugar mientras meto dinero, cuando voy a sacar algo que merece la pena me roban... Perdí muchas horas para conseguir ese dinero.
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Veronika
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead
Javno
pre 1 meseca
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Važno obaveštenje:
Casino Guru nikada neće tražiti uplate ili pristup Vašem nalogu da bi se kompletirala KYC procedura. Ukoliko neko tvrdi da je iz našeg tima i traži nešto slično, nemojte deliti svoje lične informacije.
Mi isključivo kontaktiramo igrače kroz oficijalni kanal za prigovore ili putem @casino.guru e-mail adrese. Uvek proverite domen pošiljaoca i proverite email adresu tako što ćete kliknuti na avatar koji se vidi u okviru kanala za prigovore.
Ako Vam nešto izgleda sumnjivo, kontaktirajte nas direktno.
Ponašajte se odgovorno.
Important notice:
Casino Guru will never ask for payments or access to your accounts to complete KYC. If someone claims to be from Casino Guru and does that, do not share any information.
We only contact players through this official complaint thread or via @casino.guru e-mail addresses. Always check the sender’s domain and verify your complaint resolver’s e-mail address by clicking on their avatar visible inside the official complaint thread.
If anything seems suspicious, contact us directly.
Stay safe.
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Veronika
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead
Javno
pre 1 meseca
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Zdravo,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli ovu žalbu. Žao mi je zbog problema koji imate. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bismo razjasnili vašu situaciju.
Kada ste se tačno registrovali u ovom kazinu? Da li ste ranije prošli punu KYC verifikaciju u ovom kazinu?
Da li ste koristili neki VPN ili softver za maskiranje IP adrese da biste promenili svoju stvarnu lokaciju dok ste pristupali veb stranici kazina?
Da li ste mogli da se registrujete direktno iz Španije, a da niste dobili nikakva iskačuća obaveštenja ili upozorenja u kojima se navodi da igračima iz Španije nije dozvoljeno da se registruju u kazinu?
Da li ste pravilno popunili svoj profil, navodeći Španiju kao zemlju prebivališta?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Veronika
Hello,
Thank you very much for submitting this complaint. I'm sorry to hear about the problem you're experiencing. Please allow me to ask you a few questions to clarify your situation.
When exactly did you register at this casino? Did you pass the full KYC verification at this casino in the past?
Have you used any VPN or IP-masking software to alter your real location while accessing the casino website?
Were you able to register directly from Spain without receiving any pop-up notifications or warnings stating that players from Spain were not allowed to register at the casino?
Did you fill out your profile correctly, stating Spain as your country of residence?
I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Veronika
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Defretered
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Javno
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Zdravo, prošao sam KYC verifikaciju kada su je tražili.
Ne sećam se kada sam se registrovao, ali sam siguran više od dve ili tri godine. Čak su me zamolili da potvrdim način plaćanja koji nisam koristio za taj depozit.
Kada sam se registrovao u kazinu, igrao sam iz Španije. Bilo je igara koje nisam mogao da igram i preporučili su mi da koristim VPN.
Igrao sam preko zvanične aplikacije, ponekad mogu da igram bez VPN-a, ponekad ne.
Kada registrujem svoj nalog, ne dobijam nikakav iskačući prozor. I nisam morao da kažem svoju zemlju.
Dozvolili su mi da uplatim mnogo novca, koristeći kriptovalute i kartice
Bio sam VIP igrač. Svakog petka mi daju velike bonuse za lojalnost.
Hi, I passed the KYC verification when they requested it.
I cant remember when i register, vut im sure more than two or three years. They even asked me to verify a payment method that I didn't use for that deposit either.
When I registered at the casino, I was playing from Spain. There were games I couldn't play and they recommended I use a VPN
I was playing vía oficial app, sometimes i can play without VPN, sometimes no.
When i register my account, i dont receive any pop Up. And i wasnt needed to say my country
They allowed me to deposit a lot of money, using crypto and using card
I was vip player. Every friday they give me Big bonuses for loyalty.
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Defretered
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Zdravo, prošao sam KYC verifikaciju kada su je tražili.
Ne sećam se kada sam se registrovao, ali sam siguran više od dve ili tri godine. Čak su me zamolili da potvrdim način plaćanja koji nisam koristio za taj depozit.
Kada sam se registrovao u kazinu, igrao sam iz Španije. Bilo je igara koje nisam mogao da igram i preporučili su mi da koristim VPN.
Igrao sam preko zvanične aplikacije, ponekad mogu da igram bez VPN-a, ponekad ne.
Kada registrujem svoj nalog, ne dobijam nikakav iskačući prozor. I nisam morao da kažem svoju zemlju.
Dozvolili su mi da uplatim mnogo novca, koristeći kriptovalute i kartice
Bio sam VIP igrač. Svakog petka mi daju velike bonuse za lojalnost.
Hi, I passed the KYC verification when they requested it.
I cant remember when i register, vut im sure more than two or three years. They even asked me to verify a payment method that I didn't use for that deposit either.
When I registered at the casino, I was playing from Spain. There were games I couldn't play and they recommended I use a VPN
I was playing vía oficial app, sometimes i can play without VPN, sometimes no.
When i register my account, i dont receive any pop Up. And i wasnt needed to say my country
They allowed me to deposit a lot of money, using crypto and using card
I was vip player. Every friday they give me Big bonuses for loyalty.
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Veronika
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead
Javno
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Hvala vam na odgovoru. Molim vas, prosledite mi komunikaciju između vas i korisničke podrške kazina u vezi sa zatvaranjem vašeg naloga zbog ograničenja u vašoj zemlji prebivališta. veronika.f@casino.guru Cenim vašu saradnju.
Thank you for your reply. Please forward me the communication between you and the casino customer support regarding the closure of your account due to your country of residence being restricted at veronika.f@casino.guru. I appreciate your cooperation.
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Defretered
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Ne mogu to da pružim, jer tvrde da mi je nalog obrisan.
I am unable to provide it, as they claim my account was deleted.
Me es imposible aportarla, ya que me eliminaron la cuenta según ellos
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Veronika
Complaint Resolution Center Deputy Team Lead
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Molim vas, prosledite mi svu komunikaciju koju ste imali sa kazinom u vezi sa ovim problemom, jer su nam ovi dokazi neophodni da bismo nastavili istragu. To može da uključuje imejlove, transkripte ćaskanja, snimke ekrana ili bilo koju drugu dokumentaciju koja potvrđuje da ste imali nalog u ovom kazinu i da su vaši dobici konfiskovani.
Please forward me any communication you had with the casino regarding this issue, as this evidence is necessary for us to continue with the investigation. This can include emails, chat transcripts, screenshots, or any other documentation confirming that you had an account at this casino and that your winnings were confiscated.
Hvala vam na saradnji i što ste nam pružili sve potrebne informacije. Zaista cenim vreme i trud koji ste uložili da sve do sada podelite sa nama.
Vaša žalba će sada preći u sledeću fazu našeg procesa i njome će se baviti vaš dodeljeni rešavač, Stefan ( stefan.m@casino.guru ). Ovo je standardni korak u našoj proceduri, jer će Rezolver direktno preuzeti komunikaciju sa kazinom i upravljati vašim slučajem od ove tačke pa nadalje.
Trenutno nije potrebna nikakva akcija od vas. Vaš rešavač će vas kontaktirati putem ove teme ako budu potrebni dodatni detalji. Možete biti sigurni da je vaš slučaj u veoma sposobnim rukama.
Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš slučaj uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Veronika
Dear Defretered
Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.
Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Stefan (stefan.m@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.
No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.
I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Kind regards,
Veronika
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Stefan
Casino Analyst & Complaint Specialist
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Dragi/a Defretered/ka,
Žao mi je što čujem za problem koji imate sa kazinom. Kontaktiraću kazino u vaše ime i daću sve od sebe da vam pomognem da se problem brzo reši.
U ovom trenutku, želeo bih da pozovem predstavnika BitStarz kazina da se pridruži ovom razgovoru i pomogne u rešavanju žalbe.
Dragi kazino BitStarz,
Možete li, molim vas, dati svoje komentare u vezi sa situacijom?
Unapred hvala na saradnji i na deljenju svih relevantnih informacija.
Dear Defretered,
I am sorry to hear about the issue you are experiencing with the casino. I will reach out to the casino on your behalf and do my best to help resolve the matter promptly.
At this point, I would like to invite a representative from BitStarz Casino to join this conversation and assist in addressing the complaint.
Dear BitStarz Casino,
Could you please provide your comments regarding the situation?
Thank you in advance for your cooperation and for sharing any relevant information.
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Zdravo,
Hvala vam na pozivu.
Prvo, nije tačno da je autor početnog posta VIP osoba, nisam siguran da li je to previše važno u ovom slučaju, ali bih više voleo da budem temeljan.
Sada je igrač uneo Norvešku kao zemlju, pogrešno predstavljajući lokaciju u kojoj se nalazi, što je naravno kršenje bilo kojih uslova u bilo kom kazinu. Ako niste mogli da pronađete svoju zemlju na listi, možda postoji razlog za to.
Štaviše, autor posta je koristio VPN kako bi zaobišao blokadu IP adresa koju imamo da bi Španija mogla da pristupi sajtu, tako da mislim da je pomalo nepravedno da se ovde odgovornost prebacuje na nas kada:
A. Početni autor nije mogao da pristupi sajtu jer smo blokirali IP adresu njegove zemlje.
B. U svoj profil je uneo Norvešku jer Španija nije bila dostupna.
Kada smo to otkrili, zatvorili smo mu račun i vratili vam poslednji depozit.
Evo konkretnijeg prekršenja pravila:
3.1. Kazino prihvata igrače samo iz onih zemalja i geografskih regiona gde je kockanje na mreži dozvoljeno zakonom. Vaš pristanak na Uslove i odredbe potvrđuje da ste isključivo odgovorni za učešće u igrama na sreću koje nudi Veb-sajt i da ne kršite zakone koji se primenjuju na vas u lokalnoj jurisdikciji.
3.6. „Korisnicima iz sledećih zemalja i njihovih teritorija („Lista ograničenih zemalja") nije dozvoljeno da uplaćuju depozite i igraju igre za pravi novac: Sjedinjene Američke Države, Portoriko, Grčka, Ujedinjeno Kraljevstvo (uključujući sve prekomorske teritorije), Ostrvo Men, Džerzi, Gibraltar, Španija....."
3.3. Kazino zadržava pravo da proveri vaš identitet tokom KYC (Poznaj svog klijenta) postupka. Ukoliko prekršite Politiku ograničenih zemalja, Kazino ne garantuje mogućnost povraćaja novca u slučaju da uspete da izvršite plaćanje kršeći Politiku.
Hi there,
Thank you for the invite.
Firstly, it's not true that the OP is a VIP, I'm not sure if it matters too much in this case but I'd prefer to be thorough.
Now, the player entered Norway as country, misrepresenting the location he's in, which is of course a breach of any terms in any casino. If you couldn't find your country in the list, there might be a reason for that.
Furthermore, OP used VPN in order to circumvent the IP block we have for Spain to access the site, so I think it's a bit unfair to put the responsibility on us here when:
A. OP couldn't access the site because we block his country's IP
B. He put Norway in his profile as Spain wasn't available.
When we discovered this we closed his account and returned the last deposit to you.
Here's more specifically rules breached:
3.1. The Casino accepts players only from those countries and geographic regions where online gambling is allowed by law. Your consent to the Terms and Conditions confirms that You are solely responsible for participating in games of chance offered by the Website and do not breach laws applicable to You in the local jurisdiction.
3.6. "Users from the following countries and their territories ("Restricted Countries List") are not allowed to deposit and play real money games: United States of America, Puerto Rico, Greece, United Kingdom (including any overseas territories), Isle of Man, Jersey, Gibraltar, Spain....."
3.3. The Casino reserves the right to verify Your identity during the KYC (Know Your Customer) procedure. Should You breach the Restricted Countries Policy, the Casino does not guarantee the availability of a refund in case You manage to complete payment in breach of the Policy
Izmenjeno
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Stefan
Casino Analyst & Complaint Specialist
Javno
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Dragi kazino BitStarz,
Hvala vam na odgovoru i pojašnjenju u vezi sa zatvaranjem naloga.
Da bismo mogli pravilno da razmotrimo okolnosti slučaja, molimo vas da nam dostavite relevantne dokaze koji pokazuju da je igrač pristupio kazinu iz Španije koristeći VPN i da je Norveška izabrana kao zemlja prebivališta tokom registracije?
Takođe bismo bili zahvalni za sve relevantne evidencije o nalogu ili tehničke informacije koje podržavaju odluku o zatvaranju naloga i povraćaju samo poslednjeg depozita igrača.
Unapred vam hvala na saradnji.
Radujem se vašem odgovoru.
Dear BitStarz Casino,
Thank you for your response and for providing clarification regarding the account closure.
To allow us to properly review the circumstances of the case, could you please provide us with the relevant supporting evidence showing that the player accessed the casino from Spain while using a VPN and that Norway was selected as the country of residence during registration?
We would also appreciate any relevant account records or technical information supporting the decision to close the account and refund only the player's latest deposit.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
I look forward to your response.
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BitStarz Casino
Kazino predstavnik
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Zdravo Stefane,
Nisam siguran da li možeš da vidiš snimak ekrana koji sam priložio, ali poslaću ti imejl.
Hi Stefan,
Not sure if you can see the screenshot I attached but I'll email you.
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Stefan
Casino Analyst & Complaint Specialist
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Dragi/a Defretered/ka,
Pregledao/la sam dokaze koje je kazino dostavio/la i čini se da informacije unete tokom registracije ne odgovaraju vašim stvarnim okolnostima.
Prema dostavljenim informacijama, vi ste španski državljanin, Norveška je izabrana kao vaša zemlja prebivališta, a holandski VPN je korišćen za pristup kazinu uprkos tome što je Španija ograničena jurisdikcija.
Čini se da takva aktivnost krši Uslove i odredbe kazina, posebno ograničenja u vezi sa zabranjenim zemljama i korišćenjem netačnih registracionih podataka.
Možete li, molim vas, prokomentarisati ove nalaze i pružiti nam svoje objašnjenje situacije?
Radujem se vašem odgovoru.
Dear Defretered,
I have reviewed the evidence provided by the casino, and it appears that the information entered during registration does not match your actual circumstances.
According to the information provided, you are a Spanish citizen, Norway was selected as your country of residence, and a Dutch VPN was used to access the casino despite Spain being a restricted jurisdiction.
Such activity appears to be in breach of the casino's Terms and Conditions, particularly the restrictions related to prohibited countries and the use of inaccurate registration information.
Could you please comment on these findings and provide us with your explanation of the situation?
I look forward to your response.
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Defretered
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Kada sam se registrovao, bio sam u Norveškoj. Bukvalno. Bio sam registrovan od 2019. godine, ako se ne varam.
Povezao sam se sa nalogom koristeći VPN-ove iz MEKSIKA, NORVEŠKE, NEMAČKE i HOLANDIJE.
Da bih mogao da igram određene igre koje se nisu pojavljivale sa mojom internet konekcijom, ne zbog pristupa.
Ponekad bih dobio poruku u kojoj je pisalo da igračima iz te zemlje nije dozvoljen pristup kada bih se povezao iz tih zemalja. Ponovo bih pokrenuo vezu i to bi rešilo problem.
Takođe ih koristim za privatnost.
Ako sam ovo zaista radio toliko dugo, zašto su gledali na drugu stranu dok sam stalno ulagao novac i ulagao? Ali kada dođe vreme da podignem novac (NAKON GODINA TROŠENjA), kažu mi da kršim pravila?
Ako kršim pravila da bih služio, zašto ih ne kršim da bih služio?
Primenjujući isto pravilo, trebalo bi da vrate sav novac koji sam platio, zar ne?
When I registered, I was in Norway. Literally. I'd been registered since 2019, if I'm not mistaken.
I have connected to the account using VPNs from MEXICO, NORWAY, GERMANY, and THE NETHERLANDS.
To be able to play certain games that didn't appear with my internet connection, not because of access.
Sometimes I'd get a message saying players from that country weren't allowed when I connected from those countries. I'd restart the connection and that would fix it.
I also use them for privacy.
If I've really been doing this for so long, why did they look the other way while I kept putting money in and putting it in? But when it comes time to take money out (AFTER YEARS OF SPENDING), they tell me I'm breaking the rules?
If I break the rules to serve, why don't I break them to serve?
Applying the same rule, they should return all the money I paid, right?
Cuando me registré me encontraba en noruega. Literalmente. Llevaba registrado si no me equivoco desde 2019.
Me he conectado a la cuenta usando VPN de MEXICO, NORUEGA, ALEMANIA Y HOLANDA.
Para poder jugar a determinados juegos que no me aparecían con mi conexión de internet, no por acceder.
A veces saltaba el aviso de no se aceptan jugadores de ese pais al conectarme desde esos países. Reiniciaba conexión y solucionado.
Al igual que también las uso por privacidad.
Si realmente he estado haciendo eso durante tanto tiempo. Por qué han mirado hacia un lado mientras metía y metía dinero. Pero al momento de sacar el dinero (DESPUES DE AÑOS GASTANDO) me dicen que estoy infringiendo las normas?
Si infrinjo las normas para sacar, por qué no las infrinjo para meter?
Aplicando la misma norma, deben devolverme todo lo ingresado no?
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Stefan
Casino Analyst & Complaint Specialist
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Dragi/a Defretered/ka,
Hvala vam na odgovoru.
Sama upotreba VPN-a se ne smatra nužno problemom iz naše perspektive. Međutim, korišćenje VPN-a posebno za zaobilaženje ograničenja zemlje tokom registracije ili za pristup kazinu iz ograničene jurisdikcije smatralo bi se problematičnim i može predstavljati kršenje Uslova i odredbi kazina.
Možete li nam, molim vas, pružiti bilo kakav dokaz koji pokazuje da ste živeli u Norveškoj u vreme kada ste registrovali svoj kazino nalog?
To može da uključuje, na primer, dokaz o adresi ili drugi dokument kojim se potvrđuje vaš boravak u Norveškoj tokom relevantnog perioda.
Hvala vam na saradnji.
Radujem se vašem odgovoru.
Dear Defretered,
Thank you for your response.
The use of a VPN itself is not necessarily considered an issue from our perspective. However, using a VPN specifically to circumvent a country restriction during registration or to access a casino from a restricted jurisdiction would be considered problematic and may constitute a breach of the casino's Terms and Conditions.
Could you please provide us with any evidence showing that you were residing in Norway at the time you registered your casino account?
This could include, for example, proof of address or another document confirming your residence in Norway during the relevant period.
Thank you for your cooperation.
I look forward to your response.
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Defretered
Srebro
Javno
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Bio sam na brodu koji smo popravljali; on zaustavlja se širom sveta.
Kompanija je NAVANTIA.
Ne sećam se imena broda, a mislim i da podizvođačka firma koja ga je popravila više ne postoji.
Prošlo je mnogo vremena od 2019. godine, a ja i dalje koristim VPN-ove iz svih zemalja koje sam ranije pomenuo da bih igrao sve igre.
Igre iz Španije nisu zabavne. Zato se čak ni ne trudim da koristim tu zemlju kao centralnu vezu.
Teško je pronaći dokaz o mom prebivalištu u Norveškoj tokom registracije.
Molim da vidim dokaz o mojoj vezi koji je dostavljen tokom registracije, a koji potvrđuje da sam koristio lažnu IP adresu.
I was on a ship we repaired; it makes stops all over the world.
The company is NAVANTIA.
I don't remember the name of the ship, and I also think the subcontracting company that repaired it no longer exists.
It's been a long time since 2019, and I'm still using VPNs from all the countries I mentioned earlier to play all the games.
Games from Spain aren't entertaining. So I don't even bother using the country as a central connection.
Finding proof of my residence in Norway during registration is difficult.
I request to see the evidence provided of my connection during registration, which corroborates that I was using a fake IP address.
Estaba en un barco que reparamos, va haciendo paradas por todo el mundo.
La empresa es NAVANTIA.
No recuerdo el nombre del barco, además creo que ya no existe la empresa de subcontratación que lo reparaba.
Ha pasado mucho tiempo desde 2019, y aún sigo usando VPN de todos los países que antes mencioné para jugar a todos los juegos.
Los juegos de España no son entretenidos. Así que ni siquiera me molesto en usar el país como conexión central.
Encontrar pruebas de mi residencia en noruega durante el registro es difícil.
Solicito ver las pruebas aportadas de mi conexión durante el registro, que corroboren que estaba usando una ip falseada.
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Dragi/a Defretered/ka,
Hvala vam na odgovoru i na dodatnim pojašnjenjima.
Pažljivo smo pregledali informacije i dokaze dostupne u ovom slučaju. Iako ste objasnili da ste bili fizički prisutni u Norveškoj u vreme registracije, vaš poslednji odgovor ukazuje da je to bilo povezano sa privremenim radom na brodu, a ne sa vašim stvarnim boravkom u Norveškoj. Nažalost, takođe niste bili u mogućnosti da pružite nikakve dokaze koji potvrđuju da je Norveška bila vaša zemlja prebivališta u vreme kada je nalog kreiran.
Ova razlika je važna, jer je u registracionom formularu bila potrebna vaša zemlja prebivališta , a ne samo zemlja iz koje ste u tom trenutku pristupali kazinu.
Štaviše, potvrdili ste da ste redovno koristili VPN veze iz različitih zemalja kako biste pristupili igrama koje inače ne bi bile dostupne sa vaše stvarne lokacije. Pošto je Španija posebno navedena kao ograničena jurisdikcija prema Uslovima i odredbama kazina, smatramo da je kombinacija netačnih podataka o registraciji i korišćenja VPN veza za zaobilaženje geografskih ograničenja značajno kršenje pravila kazina.
Pregledali smo dokaze koje je kazino dostavio kao deo naše istrage. Međutim, određeni interni ili tehnički dokazi koje su nam privatno dostavili kazina ne moraju nužno biti javno deljeni sa uključenim stranama.
Uzimajući u obzir sve navedeno, ne verujemo da imamo dovoljno osnova da osporimo odluku kazina o zatvaranju naloga. Kazino je takođe potvrdio da vam je vaš poslednji depozit vraćen.
Iz ovih razloga, sada ćemo odbaciti ovu žalbu .
Žao mi je što nismo uspeli da postignemo rezultat koji ste očekivali. Molimo vas da imate u vidu da nas možete ponovo kontaktirati ako naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti. Naš tim će rado razmotriti sve nove nedoumice i pomoći kad god je to moguće.
Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Stefan
Kazino Guru
Dear Defretered,
Thank you for your response and for providing further clarification.
We have carefully reviewed the information and evidence available in this case. While you have explained that you were physically present in Norway at the time of registration, your latest response indicates that this was connected to temporary work aboard a ship rather than you actually residing in Norway. Unfortunately, you have also been unable to provide any evidence confirming that Norway was your country of residence at the time the account was created.
This distinction is important, as the registration form required your country of residence, rather than simply the country from which you happened to be accessing the casino at that particular time.
Furthermore, you have confirmed that you regularly used VPN connections from various countries in order to access games that would otherwise not be available from your actual location. As Spain is specifically listed as a restricted jurisdiction under the casino's Terms and Conditions, we consider the combination of inaccurate registration information and the use of VPN connections to bypass geographical restrictions to be a significant breach of the casino's rules.
We have reviewed the evidence supplied by the casino as part of our investigation. However, certain internal or technical evidence provided to us privately by casinos cannot necessarily be shared publicly with the parties involved.
Taking all of the above into consideration, we do not believe we have sufficient grounds to dispute the casino's decision to close the account. The casino has also confirmed that your latest deposit was returned to you.
For these reasons, we will now proceed to reject this complaint.
I am sorry that we were unable to achieve the outcome you were hoping for. Please remember that you are welcome to contact us again if you encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future. Our team will be happy to review any new concerns and assist whenever possible.
Thank you for your understanding.
Best regards,
Stefan
Casino.Guru
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