Dragi Kubo i CashWin tim,
S poštovanjem, odgovor kompanije CashWin ne izdržava nikakvu proveru i želim da odlučno uzvratim jer pogrešno predstavljaju i činjenice i sopstvene uslove.
1. Nisam otkazao/la bonus.
KešVin tvrdi da sam „odabrao da otkažem aktivni bonus" pre nego što sam završio klađenje. To jednostavno nije istina. Bonus je otkazao kazino tokom procesa verifikacije. KešVin nije pružio nikakve dokaze da sam kliknuo na dugme za otkazivanje, potvrdio iskačući prozor ili pokrenuo bilo kakvo otkazivanje sa moje strane. Izmišljaju radnju igrača da bi opravdali radnju kazina. Ako KešVin ostane pri ovom stavu, zahtevam da dostave zapis u dnevniku, vremensku oznaku i IP adresu navodne radnje otkazivanja sa mog naloga. Neće, jer ne postoji.
2. CashWin je sada pogrešno citirao sopstvene uslove.
Pažljivo pogledajte kako je CashWin preformulisao klauzulu 23.17 u svom odgovoru. Stvarna klauzula glasi:
Igrač može da zahteva povlačenje svog depozita pre nego što ispuni uslove za klađenje na bonus. U ovom slučaju, iznos bonusa i dobici su nevažeći, a preostala sredstva, ako ih ima, isplaćuju se igraču.
Klauzula kaže da se „preostala sredstva, ako ih ima, isplaćuju igraču". To je cela poenta. Čak i u KešVinovoj (netačnoj) verziji događaja, gde igrač otkaže pre nego što je klađenje završeno, uslovi izričito zahtevaju da se preostala sredstva isplate igraču. KešVin je citirao tačnu klauzulu koja ih obavezuje da mi plate, a zatim je zaključio da ne moraju da mi plate. To nije odbrana, to je kontradikcija.
3. Struktura bonus novca onemogućava njihov položaj.
Ovo je suština problema i želim da se to direktno reši. Bonus novac i pravi novac su odvojeni, ograđeni računi na CashWin-ovoj platformi. To potvrđuje:
Član 23.12: pravi novac se prvo troši, bonus novac se čuva odvojeno.
Korisnički interfejs kazina prikazuje dve različite linije: „Pravi balans" i „Kazino bonus".
Moji snimci ekrana koji prikazuju oba stanja pre i posle otkazivanja.
Kako se depozit igrača i dobici na tom depozitu mogu „povezati" sa bonusom koji se nalazio na posebnom, netaknutom balansu? Ne mogu. Čitava poenta odvajanja pravog novca od bonus novca u novčaniku igrača je upravo da bi pravi novac ostao vlasništvo igrača i ne bi mogao biti konfiskovan kada se bonus poništi.
Ako je stav kompanije CashWin tačan, da su svi dobici tokom „aktivnog bonus perioda" povezani sa bonusom i mogu se poništiti, onda ne bi imalo smisla imati odvojeno stvarno stanje. Razdvajanje je besmisleno prema njihovom tumačenju. To ne može biti ono što uslovi kažu, niti to pokazuje ponašanje sistema.
4. Sam sistem je u suprotnosti sa stavom kompanije CashWin.
Najjači dokaz u ovom slučaju je ponašanje same CashWin-ove platforme:
Pre otkazivanja bonusa: Pravi saldo 2.718,50 €, Kazino bonus 300 €.
Nakon otkazivanja bonusa: Pravi saldo 2.718,50 €, Kazino bonus 0 €.
Da je 2.718,50 evra zaista bio dobitak povezan sa bonusom koji bi trebalo da bude poništen prema klauzuli 23.6, sistem bi poništio stvarni saldo u trenutku kada je bonus otkazan. Nije. Sama platforma je prepoznala ova sredstva kao dobitke pravog novca dobijene od opklada pravog novca i zadržala ih u liniji pravog salda. CashWin sada traži od Casino Guru-a da ignoriše ono što je njihova sopstvena platforma uradila i da prihvati usmenu reinterpretaciju koja je u suprotnosti sa sopstvenim sistemskim evidencijama.
5. Narativ o verifikaciji je takođe pogrešan.
KešVin tvrdi da „nije bilo neopravdanih kašnjenja" i da verifikacija nije mogla biti završena „bez pune saradnje klijenta". Ovo nije tačno. Potvrda o interesovanju (POI) i Pouka (POA) su odobreni u maju 2025. godine. Zatim sam od maja 2025. godine više puta podnosio traženi MiFinity dokaz o depozitu i snimak ekrana MiFinity profila. Svaki podnesak je odbijen, a da KešVin nikada nije precizirao koji element dokumenata je nedostajao. Snimci ekrana traženi 21. juna 2025. godine bili su identični po suštini onima koje sam već podneo 23. maja 2025. godine. To je definicija neopravdanog kašnjenja.
KešVin takođe kaže da je moj depozit vraćen. To nije rešenje, već je kazino jednostrano poništio transakciju kako bi izbegao da se bavi dobicima. Povraćaj depozita ne ukida moje pravo na 2.718,50 evra dobitka koji su se nalazili na mom stvarnom stanju.
Dear Kubo and CashWin Team,
With respect, CashWin's response does not hold up to scrutiny, and I want to push back firmly because they are misrepresenting both the facts and their own terms.
1. I did not cancel the bonus.
CashWin claims I "chose to cancel the active bonus" before completing wagering. That is simply not true. The bonus was cancelled by the casino during the verification process. CashWin has not produced any evidence whatsoever that I clicked a cancellation button, confirmed a pop-up, or initiated any cancellation from my end. They are inventing a player action to justify a casino action. If CashWin maintains this position, I request they produce the log entry, timestamp, and IP address of the alleged cancellation action from my account. They will not, because it does not exist.
2. CashWin has now misquoted their own terms.
Look carefully at how CashWin has rephrased clause 23.17 in their response. The actual clause reads:
"The Player can request a withdrawal of their deposit before meeting the requirements for bonus wagering. In this case, the amount of the bonus and winnings are void, and the remaining funds, if any, are paid to the player."
The clause says "remaining funds, if any, are paid to the player." That is the entire point. Even on CashWin's own (incorrect) version of events, where the player cancels before wagering is complete, the terms expressly require the remaining funds to be paid to the player. CashWin has quoted the exact clause that obligates them to pay me, and then concluded they don't have to pay me. That is not a defence, that is a contradiction.
3. The structure of bonus money makes their position impossible.
This is the core of the matter and I want it addressed directly. Bonus money and real money are separate, ringfenced balances on CashWin's own platform. This is confirmed by:
Clause 23.12: real money is exhausted first, bonus money sits separately.
The casino's own UI showing two distinct lines: "Real Balance" and "Casino Bonus."
My screenshots showing both balances before and after cancellation.
How can a player's own deposit and the winnings on that deposit be "linked" to a bonus that was sitting in a separate, untouched balance? They cannot. The whole point of separating real money from bonus money in the player's wallet is precisely so that real funds remain the player's property and cannot be confiscated when a bonus is voided.
If CashWin's position were correct, that any winnings during an "active bonus period" are bonus-linked and voidable, then there would be no point in having a separate real balance at all. The separation is meaningless under their interpretation. That cannot be what the terms say, and it is not what the system behaviour shows.
4. The system itself contradicts CashWin's position.
The most powerful piece of evidence in this case is CashWin's own platform behaviour:
Before bonus cancellation: Real Balance €2,718.50, Casino Bonus €300.
After bonus cancellation: Real Balance €2,718.50, Casino Bonus €0.
If the €2,718.50 were truly bonus-linked winnings that should be voided under clause 23.6, the system would have zeroed the real balance at the moment the bonus was cancelled. It did not. The platform itself recognised these funds as real money winnings derived from real money wagers, and kept them in the real balance line. CashWin is now asking Casino Guru to ignore what their own platform did and accept a verbal reinterpretation that contradicts their own system records.
5. The verification narrative is also wrong.
CashWin claims there were "no undue delays" and that the verification could not be completed "without the customer's full cooperation." This is not accurate. POI and POA were approved in May 2025. I then submitted the requested MiFinity proof of deposit and MiFinity profile screenshot repeatedly from May 2025 onwards. Each submission was rejected without CashWin ever specifying which element of the documents was deficient. The screenshots requested on 21 June 2025 were identical in substance to those I had already submitted on 23 May 2025. That is the definition of an undue delay.
CashWin also says my deposit has been returned. That is not a resolution, it is the casino unilaterally reversing the transaction to avoid having to deal with the winnings. The deposit refund does not extinguish my claim to the €2,718.50 in winnings that sat in my real balance.
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