Dragi/a jarenty1983,
Hvala vam na odgovoru i što ste nas obavestili da ste podneli zahteve za povraćaj novca vašoj banci i operateru kazina.
Na osnovu svih dostavljenih informacija, želeo bih jasno da objasnim naš konačni stav.
Kao što je ranije navedeno, možemo vam pomoći sa zahtevima za povraćaj novca samo u situacijama gde postoje jasni dokazi da je igrač zahtevao zatvaranje naloga ili samoisključenje zbog problema sa kockanjem, a kazino nije postupio po tom zahtevu, dozvolivši dalje depozite i gubitke. U vašem slučaju, ne postoje proverljivi dokazi da je kazino podneo ili ignorisao takav zahtev. Zbog toga, nažalost, nismo u mogućnosti da u vaše ime tražimo povraćaj izgubljenih depozita (3.080 evra).
U vezi sa povraćajem sredstava, želeli bismo da razjasnimo sledeće. Iako pokretanje povraćaja sredstava ponekad može dovesti do zatvaranja ili ograničavanja naloga kod više operatera, to je zato što su povraćaji sredstava obično povezani sa prevarom ili zloupotrebom načina plaćanja sa stanovišta operatera. Povraćaj sredstava je generalno namenjen situacijama kada usluga nije pružena ili kada je transakcija bila neovlašćena.
U ovom slučaju, usluga kockanja je bila dostupna i korišćena, a sredstva su izgubljena tokom normalnog igranja. Iz tog razloga, pokretanje zahteva za povraćaj sredstava u takvim okolnostima može se smatrati nepravednim prema kazinu, jer je usluga pružena kako je predviđeno. Stoga ne preporučujemo aktivno ovaj pristup. Bilo koji ishod će u potpunosti zavisiti od procene banke ili dobavljača plaćanja i spada van delokruga naše intervencije.
Da sumiramo:
- Novac je izgubljen tokom igranja, a ne oduzet od strane kazina.
- Nema dokaza o zahtevu za samoisključenje ili zatvaranje naloga na koji kazino nije reagovao.
- Bez takvih dokaza, nemamo osnova da zahtevamo ili izvršimo povraćaj novca od kazina.
Iz ovih razloga, moramo odbaciti ovu žalbu, jer nismo u mogućnosti da dalje postupamo u skladu sa našim pravilima za rešavanje žalbi. Ukoliko možete da pružite nove dokaze koji pokazuju da ste tražili od kazina da vas spreči da igrate i da je taj zahtev ignorisan, bićemo spremni da ponovo razmotrimo slučaj.
Hvala vam na razumevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Kazino Guru
Dear jarenty1983,
Thank you for your reply and for informing us that you have submitted refund requests to your bank and the casino operator.
Based on all the information provided, I would like to clearly explain our final position.
As outlined earlier, we can assist with refund requests only in situations where there is clear evidence that a player requested account closure or self-exclusion due to gambling problems and the casino failed to act on that request, allowing further deposits and losses. In your case, there is no verifiable evidence that such a request was made or ignored by the casino. Because of this, we are unfortunately unable to pursue a refund of the lost deposits (€3,080) on your behalf.
Regarding chargebacks, we would like to clarify the following. While initiating a chargeback can sometimes result in an account being closed or restricted across multiple operators, this is because chargebacks are commonly associated with fraud or misuse of payment methods from the operators’ perspective. A chargeback is generally intended for situations where a service was not provided or where a transaction was unauthorized.
In this case, the gambling service was available and used, and the funds were lost during normal gameplay. For this reason, pursuing a chargeback in such circumstances may also be considered unfair toward the casino, as the service was delivered as intended. We therefore do not actively recommend this approach. Any outcome will depend entirely on the bank’s or payment provider’s assessment and falls outside the scope of our intervention.
To summarize:
- The funds were lost during gameplay, not confiscated by the casino.
- There is no evidence of a self-exclusion or account closure request that the casino failed to act upon.
- Without such evidence, we do not have grounds to request or enforce a refund from the casino.
For these reasons, we must reject this complaint, as we are powerless to proceed further under our complaint resolution rules. If you are able to provide new evidence showing that you asked the casino to stop you from playing and this request was ignored, we would be willing to reassess the case.
Thank you for your understanding.
Best regards,
Petronela
Casino.Guru
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