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The player from Greece had deposited funds and participated in various promotions, winning significant amounts that he intended to withdraw. After passing verification, his withdrawals were canceled when he was informed that he had violated bonus rules, although he believed the terms were unclear and that he had not actually broken any rules. The Complaints Team had attempted to resolve the issue by communicating with the casino for clarification on the confiscation of his winnings. The casino has clarified the situation, and as the player did not finish the wagering requirements for the bonuses, all bonus funds and winnings were cancelled as outlined in the terms and conditions.
Igrač iz Grčke je uplatio sredstva i učestvovao u raznim promocijama, osvojivši značajne iznose koje je nameravao da podigne. Nakon što je prošao verifikaciju, njegova isplaćivanja su otkazana kada je obavešten da je prekršio pravila bonusa, iako je verovao da su uslovi nejasni i da zapravo nije prekršio nikakva pravila. Tim za žalbe je pokušao da reši problem komunikacijom sa kazinom radi pojašnjenja o konfiskaciji njegovih dobitaka. Kazino je razjasnio situaciju i, pošto igrač nije ispunio uslove klađenja za bonuse, sva bonus sredstva i dobici su otkazani kako je navedeno u uslovima i odredbama.
Zdravo, uplatio sam 47 evra i dobio bonus na prvi depozit, igrao sam i osvojio prvih 47 evra (keš). Video sam na svom računu dostupnih za isplatu 470 evra jer sam osvojio iznos gotovine i bonusa 47, otkazao sam bonus i izvršio isplatu, zatim sam izvršio drugi depozit od 20 evra i dobio bonus na drugi depozit, desila se potpuno ista stvar, osvojio sam prvih 20 evra. Video sam dostupnih za isplatu 150 evra i otkazao sam da bih izvršio isplatu. Na treći depozit sam koristio gotovinu i bonus sredstva i ostalo mi je 0,01 bonus sredstava i 620 sa 2 isplate. Prošao sam verifikaciju, posle 3 dana su mi otkazali isplate i tražili selfi, rekao sam ok, ponovo sam izvršio isplatu i onda su mi rekli da sam prekršio pravila u vezi sa bonusima. Prosledili su mi termin koji očigledno ne odgovara onome što su mi rekli, takođe sam pitao u Chat GPT-u i rečeno je da nije jasno u vezi sa ovim terminom i da ako nisam iskoristio nikakva bonus sredstva, trebalo je da budem isplaćen. Molim vas, proverite i pomozite.
Hello, I made a deposit 47euros and received the 1st deposit bonus , I played and won at the first 47euros (cash money) I saw at my account avaliable for withdrawal 470 euros because I won at my cash amount and bonus money 47, I canceled the bonus and made a withdrawal, then I made 2nd deposit 20euros and I received the 2nd deposit bonus, exactly the same thing happened, I won on my first 20 euros I saw avaliable for withdrawal 150 euros and I cancel in order to withdrawal, 3rd deposit i used cash and bonus funds and I had 0,01 bonus funds left and 620 with 2 withdrawals , I pass the verification, after 3 days they cancel my withdrawals and ask for selfie I say ok , I made my withdrawal again and then they told me I broke the rules regarding bonuses. They forward me a term that is clearly not saying what they told me , I also asked chat gpt and it said that it is not clear on this term and if I did not use any bonus funds at the bonus I should have been paid . Pls check and help
Hvala vam što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što sam čuo za negativno iskustvo koje ste doživeli sa GreatSpin kazinom.
Da biste stekli potpuniju sliku situacije, bio bih vam zahvalan ako biste mogli da odgovorite na sledeća pitanja:
Možete li, molim vas, proslediti termin na koji se pozivate?
Da li ste ispunili uslove klađenja za ovaj bonus prema pravilima kazina?
23.11. Uslov klađenja na GreatSpin-u (osim ako nije drugačije naznačeno) je 35 puta veći od početnog iznosa depozita i bonusa primljenog pre nego što se sredstva mogu isplatiti. Uslov klađenja dobitaka od besplatnih okretaja bez depozita i bonusa bez depozita je 40 puta veći. Za sportske bonuse pogledajte Uslove i odredbe za svaki bonus.
Da li ste upoznati sa politikom otkazivanja bonusa u ovom kazinu?
23.6. Igrač može otkazati aktivni bonus u bilo kom trenutku iz odeljka Profil ili tako što će nas kontaktirati putem ćaskanja uživo ili e-pošte na support@greatspin12356.com Otkazivanjem bonusa, ceo iznos na bonus stanju i svi dobici akumulirani tokom bonus perioda takođe će biti poništeni.
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Katarina
Dear andreaspagomenos,
Thank you for submitting your complaint. I regret to learn of the negative experience you encountered with GreatSpin Casino.
To gain a comprehensive understanding of the situation, I would appreciate it if you could answer the following questions:
Could you please forward the term you are referring to?
Have you finished the wagering requirements of this bonus as per casino rules?
23.11. The wagering requirement at GreatSpin (unless otherwise specified) is 35 times the initial amount of the deposit and bonus received before funds can be withdrawn. The wagering requirement of winnings from non-deposit free spins and non-deposit bonuses is 40 times. For Sport Bonuses refer to each bonus specific T&C.
Are you aware of the bonus cancelation policy in this casino?
23.6. A player may cancel an active bonus at any time from the Profile section or by contacting us via Live Chat or email at support@greatspin12356.com. By canceling the bonus, the whole amount in the Bonus balance and all winnings accumulated during the bonus period will also be voided.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Međutim, želeo bih da izrazim zabrinutost u vezi sa jasnoćom vašeg sistema i uslova bonusa. U vreme mog pokušaja isplate, iznos je bio jasno prikazan u odeljku „Dostupno za isplatu" i bio je označen kao gotovina, jasno odvojen od bonus stanja. Ova prezentacija je snažno ukazivala na to da sredstva nisu podložna uslovima klađenja i da se zaista mogu isplatiti.
Pored toga, želeo bih da istaknem da u mom početnom zahtevu nije bilo nikakvog pomena o bilo kakvim ograničenjima bonusa ili riziku od gubitka. Kada sam kontaktirao vaš ćaskanje uživo, jednostavno sam obavešten da je potreban dodatni korak verifikacije. Odmah sam odgovorio da ću što pre poslati traženu dokumentaciju. Čudno, samo dva sata kasnije, sredstva su nestala sa mog računa bez ikakvog upozorenja ili objašnjenja.
Štaviše, u vezi sa vašom Politikom otkazivanja bonusa (Odeljak 23.6), moram naglasiti da ona ne navodi jasno da bi otkazivanje aktivnog bonusa rezultiralo gubitkom pravih novčanih dobitaka generisanih od deponovanih sredstava. Tekst se odnosi samo na stanje bonusa i „dobitke akumulirane tokom bonus perioda", što se lako može protumačiti kao da se isključivo odnosi na dobitke ostvarene bonusom.
S obzirom na ove tačke - obmanjujući prikaz sredstava koja se mogu isplatiti, nedostatak transparentnosti u početnoj komunikaciji i dvosmislen jezik vaših Uslova.
Verujem da je ova situacija duboko nepravedna i da zaslužuje dalju reviziju. Ljubazno molim za temeljnu istragu i ponovno razmatranje odluke o poništenju mojih sredstava, koja su, na osnovu svih predstavljenih informacija, izgledala validno i legitimno se mogu isplatiti.
Hvala vam na pažnji posvećenoj ovom pitanju.
Radujem se vašem odgovoru.
Thank you for your response.
However, I would like to raise a concern regarding the clarity of your system and bonus terms. At the time of my withdrawal attempt, the amount was clearly displayed under the "Available for Withdrawal" section and was marked as Cash, distinctly separated from the Bonus Balance. This presentation strongly indicated that the funds were not subject to wagering requirements and were indeed withdrawable.
Additionally, I would like to highlight that in my initial request, there was no mention whatsoever of any bonus restrictions or risk of forfeiture. When I contacted your Live Chat, I was simply informed that an extra verification step was required. I immediately responded that I would submit the requested documentation as soon as possible. Strangely, only two hours later, the funds had disappeared from my account without any warning or explanation.
Moreover, regarding your Bonus Cancelation Policy (Section 23.6), I must emphasize that it does not clearly state that canceling an active bonus would result in the loss of real cash winnings generated from deposited funds. The text refers only to the Bonus Balance and "winnings accumulated during the bonus period," which can easily be interpreted as referring strictly to bonus-derived gains.
Given these points—the misleading display of withdrawable funds, the lack of transparency in initial communication, and the ambiguous language of your Terms.
I believe this situation is deeply unfair and deserves further review. I kindly request a thorough investigation and reconsideration of the decision to void my funds, which, based on all presented information, appeared to be valid and legitimately withdrawable.
Da bismo bolje razjasnili situaciju, molim vas da odgovorite na sledeća pitanja?
Da li ste, molim vas, komunicirali sa predstavnikom kazina o uslovima i odredbama bonusa?
Da li ste imali dalju komunikaciju sa kazinom u vezi sa ovim problemom? Možete li to podeliti sa mnom ovde u temi ili putem e-pošte. katarina.d@casino.guru
Da li imate snimke ekrana koji ilustruju sredstva prikazana pod statusom „Dostupno za povlačenje"?
Radujem se vašem odgovoru,
Katarina
Dear andreaspagomenos,
thank you for your message and information provided.
In order to shed more light to the situation, could you please answer the following questions?
Have you been communicating the bonus terms and conditions with the casino representative, please?
Have you had any further communication with the casino concerning this issue? Could you please share it with me here in the thread or via email katarina.d@casino.guru
Do you have any screenshots that illustrate the funds reflected under the "Available for Withdrawal" status?
Već sam više puta kontaktirao tim za podršku u vezi sa mojim povlačenjem sredstava.
Prvi put je sve prošlo glatko u vezi sa procesom verifikacije.
Drugi put, kada je moje povlačenje otkazano, obavešten sam da je potreban još jedan dokument za verifikaciju. U potpunosti sam sarađivao i obavestio ih da ću poslati što pre.
Međutim, treći put kada sam razgovarao sa njima bilo je kada mi je povlačenje ponovo otkazano, i ovog puta mi je rečeno da je to zbog uslova vezanih za bonus. Objasnio sam da sam koristio svoja deponovana sredstva, a ne bonus novac, i da se iznos koji sam podigao prikazuje kao dostupan za povlačenje na mom računu — nešto što se može potvrditi putem njihovog sistema. Takođe sam pomenuo da je prilikom prvog otkazivanja navedeni razlog bio samo potreba za još jednim dokumentom i da u to vreme nije bilo pomena ni o kakvom problemu vezanom za bonus.
Zatim sam upućen na konkretan termin u vezi sa uslovima klađenja, isti onaj koji ste pomenuli gore. Pokušao sam da objasnim da ovaj termin nije jasno formulisan. Iako sam pobedio koristeći pravi novac, a sistem mi je dozvolio da zahtevam isplatu — pošto su sredstva jasno bila u odeljku „gotovina", a iznos bonusa je bio prikazan odvojeno — kasnije mi je rečeno da ipak moram da ispunim uslove klađenja. Ovo me je zbunilo, jer bonus uopšte nisam koristio, ostao je netaknut na mom nalogu.
Balans je bio na primer
Gotovina 420 dolara
Iznos bonusa 50$ (neiskorišćeno)
Ovo je moja glavna briga: ako su sredstva bila ograničena uslovima bonusa, zašto mi je sistem dozvolio da nastavim sa isplatom? Ako nisam ispunjavao uslove za isplatu, sistem je trebalo da spreči zahtev u početku. Ili da me bar obavesti šta će se desiti ako otkažete bonus.
Ako je potrebno, mogu da obezbedim kompletnu istoriju ćaskanja, ili je mogu pregledati interno ako možete da ih ubedite da provere ovu stvar.
Ljubazno molim za temeljan pregled ovog pitanja, jer verujem da je došlo do nesporazuma u tumačenju ili primeni uslova bonusa i da je to na neki način obmanjujuće.
Imam ovu fotografiju na kojoj se zahtevi pojavljuju.
Hvala vam na vremenu i podršci.
Hello,
I have already contacted the support team multiple times regarding my withdrawal.
The first time, everything went smoothly concerning the verification process.
The second time, when my withdrawal was canceled, I was informed that one additional document was needed for verification. I fully cooperated and informed them I will sent ASAP.
However, the third time i spoke to them was when my withdrawal was canceled once more, and this time I was told it was due to bonus-related terms. I explained that I had used my deposited funds, not bonus money, and the amount I withdrew was showing as available for withdrawal in my account — something that can be confirmed through their system. I also mentioned that during the first cancellation, the reason given was only the need for one more document, and there was no mention of any bonus-related issue at that time.
I was then referred to a specific term regarding wagering requirements the same one you forwarded above. I tried to explain that this term is not clearly worded. Even though I had won using real money, and the system allowed me to request a withdrawal — as the funds were clearly in the "cash" section and the bonus amount was shown separately — I was later told that I still had to complete the wagering requirements. This was confusing to me, as I had not used the bonus at all, it remained untouched in my account.
The balance was for example
Cash 420$
Bonus amount 50$ (untouched/unused)
This is my main concern: if the funds were restricted by bonus terms, why did the system allow me to proceed with the withdrawal? If I was not eligible to withdraw, the system should have prevented the request in the first place Or at least inform me what is about to happened if you cancel the bonus.
If needed, I can provide the full chat history, or they may review it internally if you can persuade to check this matter.
I kindly ask for a thorough review of this issue, as I believe there has been a misunderstanding in the interpretation or application of the bonus terms and it is kind of misleading.
Radi jasnoće u vezi sa ovim pitanjem, molim vas da potvrdite da li ste primili bilo kakve dobitke od gorepomenutih bonusa (470€ i 150€)?
Kada ste počeli da igrate sa pravim novcem, da li ste videli neki napredak u klađenju na ekranu, molim vas?
Možete li, molim vas, zatražiti istoriju igranja (u Eksel formatu) od kazina i proslediti mi je? Moja imejl adresa je katarina.d@casino.guru .
Radujem se vašem odgovoru,
Katarina
Dear andreaspagomenos,
thank you for your email.
To ensure clarity regarding this matter, could you please confirm whether you have received any winnings derived from the aforementioned bonuses (€470 and €150)?
When you started your gaming with the real money, have you seen any wagering progress on the screen, please?
Could you please request a gaming history (in Excel format) from casino and forward it to me? My email is katarina.d@casino.guru.
Zdravo, odgovor na oba pitanja je ne. Kada sam otkazao, ostao mi je samo bonus novac, onda sam igrao još malo i zatražio prvo povlačenje, sve je bilo u redu, verifikacija i komunikacija.. onda sam otkazao svoj w/di, pitali su me zašto, tražili su mi selfi, rekao sam u redu, zahtevajte povlačenje, sve zajedno 620, posle 2-3 sata je otkazano i moja sredstva su oduzeta na 50 evra koliko mi je tamo ostalo od tada.
Tražiću dokument, ali ne mislim da će mi išta poslati, samo će odlagati, odlagati, odlagati.
Hello, no to both 2 questions, when I canceled only the bonus money left then I played some more and request the first withdrawal, all good , verification and communication.. then canceled my w/d i asked why, they asked a selfie I'd I said okay, request my withdrawal all together 620, after 2-3 hours it was canceled and my funds deducted to 50euros that I have left there since.
I will ask for the document but I don't think they send anything to me they will just delay delay delay.
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear andreaspagomenos,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Hvala vam puno, andreaspagomenos, na saradnji. Sada ću vašu žalbu proslediti kolegi Peteru ( peter.c@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, andreaspagomenos, for your cooperation. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Peter (peter.c@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
Hvala andreaspagomenos-u što si nam pružio sve informacije. Nadam se da ćemo zajedno uspeti da rešimo ovaj problem.
Sada bih želeo da zamolim GreatSpin Casino za pomoć u rešavanju ove žalbe. Želeli bismo da znamo zašto su igračevi dobici oduzeti i šta možemo da uradimo da pomognemo u rešavanju ovog problema.
Hvala vam!
Hello there,
Thank you andreaspagomenos for providing us with all the information. I hope we'll be able to resolve this issue together.
I would now like to ask GreatSpin Casino for their help in resolving this complaint. We would like to know why the player's winnings were confiscated and what we can do to help resolve this issue.
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Bio sam u kontaktu sa predstavnikom kazina, ali mi se nisu javili ni sa kakvim novim informacijama o vašem slučaju. Bojim se da se ne može mnogo postići bez njihove saradnje. Pošto kazino posluje bez važeće licence i ne poziva se ni na jednu ADR uslugu, ne postoji organ za igre na sreću kome bi se moglo obratiti.
Označiću žalbu kao „nerešenu" u našem sistemu. Razumem da ovo nije zadovoljavajuće rešenje za vaš problem. Međutim, smanjenje ocene uzrokovano nerešenim žalbama moglo bi pomoći u promeni pristupa kazina. Ako kazino odluči da reaguje, ponovo ćemo otvoriti žalbu i bićete obavešteni putem e-pošte.
Mogu vam samo preporučiti da u budućnosti birate kazina na osnovu njihovih recenzija i ocena kako biste izbegli ovakve situacije. Žao mi je što vam nismo mogli više pomoći u ovoj prilici.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petar
I was in contact with the casino representative, but they haven't gotten back to me with any new updates about your case. I'm afraid there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from its side. Since the casino operates without a valid license and doesn't refer to any ADR service, there is no gaming authority to turn to.
I will mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand this isn't a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the rating caused by unresolved complaints could help to change the casino's approach. If the casino decides to react, we will reopen the complaint and you will be notified by email.
I can only recommend you choose casinos by their reviews and ratings in the future to avoid situations like this. I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion.
Ponovo smo otvorili ovu žalbu na zahtev GreatSpin kazina. Dobili smo sledeću poruku:
Zdravo Andreaspagomenos,
Želimo da priznamo da nam je žao što ste ostali sa takvim osećanjima u vezi sa situacijom, ali se nadam da ćete, nakon što vam pružimo više informacija o slučaju, razumeti šta se tačno dogodilo.
Kada ste izvršili svoj prvi depozit, zatražili ste bonus na prvi depozit kao što ste pomenuli i počeli da igrate. Zatim ste dobili dobitke i u tom trenutku ste uložili 861,60 evra od potrebnih 3.290,00 evra, što znači da niste u potpunosti uložili bonus u skladu sa uslovima i odredbama. Molimo vas da imate u vidu da se i iznos bonusa i iznos depozita uzimaju u obzir za uslov klađenja, tako da su oba „zaključana" dok se bonus u potpunosti ne uloži. Otkazivanje bonusa pre ispunjavanja uslova klađenja znači da će iznos bonusa i svi dobici ostvareni tokom ovog perioda biti poništeni, kao što je navedeno u uslovima i odredbama: „Otkazivanjem bonusa, ceo iznos na stanju bonusa u kazinu i svi dobitci akumulirani tokom perioda bonusa takođe će biti poništeni."
Situacija sa vašim sledećim depozitom i bonusom je slična. Sa vašim drugim bonusom, uložili ste 52,70 evra od potrebnih 1.225,00 evra. Ponovo, otkazivanje bonusa znači da bi vaši dobici trebalo da budu poništeni.
Za vaš treći depozit i bonus, uložili ste 276,80 evra od potrebnih 362,50 evra. Nakon što ste zatražili isplatu od 620,00 evra, bila je potrebna dodatna KYC verifikacija, kao što je navedeno u našim Uslovima i odredbama u odeljku KYC.
Iako vas je naš tim obavestio o potrebnim dokumentima, pregledali su vašu igru i utvrdili da niste ispunili uslove klađenja sa bonusima. Stoga su poništili dobitke, ostavljajući samo iznos depozita na vašem računu, jer je to u skladu sa pojašnjenjem uslova klađenja u uslovima bonusa.
Molimo vas da imate na umu da vas je u trenutku poništavanja vašeg dobitka naš tim obavestio o proceduri i zašto je taj iznos uzet iz vašeg novčanika.
Nadamo se da će vam ovo objašnjenje pomoći da bolje razumete kako funkcioniše bonus funkcionalnost. Imajte na umu da cilj nam je da obezbedimo bezbedno okruženje u kojem naši klijenti mogu da uživaju!
Srdačan pozdrav,
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We’ve reopened this complaint at the request of GreatSpin Casino. We received the following message:
Hello andreaspagomenos,
We want to acknowledge that it's unfortunate you've been left with such feelings about the situation, but I hope that after providing you with more information about the case, you'll understand exactly what happened.
When making your first deposit, you claimed your first deposit bonus as you mentioned and started playing. You then received winnings, and at that point, you had wagered 861.60 EUR. out of the required 3,290.00 EUR., which means you haven't fully wagered the bonus according to the terms and conditions. Please remember that both the bonus amount and the deposit amount are considered for the wagering requirement, so they are both 'locked' until the bonus is fully wagered. Canceling the bonus before meeting the wagering requirements means the bonus amount and all winnings earned during this period will be forfeited, as stated in the terms and conditions: "By cancelling the bonus, the whole amount in the Casino Bonus balance and all winnings accumulated during the bonus period will also be voided."
The situation with your next deposit and bonus is similar. With your second bonus, you've wagered 52.70 EUR. out of the 1,225.00 EUR. required. Again, canceling the bonus means your winnings should be voided.
For your third deposit and bonus, you've wagered 276,80 EUR. out of the 362,50 EUR. required. Once you've requested a withdrawal of 620,00 EUR, additional KYC verification was needed, as outlined in our Terms and Conditions under the KYC section.
While our team informed you about the required documents, they reviewed your gameplay and found that you hadn't met your wagering requirements with the bonuses. Therefore, they voided the winnings, leaving only the deposit amount in your account, as this aligns with the clarification of the wagering requirements in the bonus terms.
Please keep in mind that at the moment of voiding your winnings, our team has informed you about the procedure and why that amount has been taken out of your wallet.
We hope this explanation helps you better understand how the bonus functionality works. Please keep in mind that we aim to provide a safe environment where our clients can enjoy themselves!
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear andreaspagomenos,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
Moja žalba je što su se moja sredstva prikazivala kao gotovina, a ne kao bonus, i nakon što sam otkazao bonus koji sam mogao i izvršio podizanje, sistem me je obavestio kako treba jer nisam koristio nikakva bonus sredstva, pored toga, prema vašim uslovima, nije jasno navedeno sve što zahtevate. Otkazali ste mi podizanje dva puta, što pokazuje da u početku nije bilo problema već samo kyc, a zatim ste pronašli drugi razlog.
Kao rezultat toga, naveli ste me da napravim 2 dodatna depozita jer sam mogao i izvršio sam podizanja i mislio da ću dobiti novac koji sam osvojio.
Molim vas pročitajte gornje komentare da biste u potpunosti razumeli moju žalbu.
My complain is that my funds appeard as Cash not bonus and after I canceled the bonus I could and made a withdrawal, the system let me as it should be cause I did not use any bonus funds, additionally at your terms it is not stated clearly all that you are claiming. You canceld my withdrawal 2 times that shows that at first there was no problem but only kyc then you found other reason.
In result you Misled me to made 2 extra deposits cause I could and made the withdrawals and thought that I will get the money I won.
Pls read above comments to fully understand my complain.
Želeo bih da vas obavestim da, na osnovu prethodnog objašnjenja vašeg slučaja, već treba da znate da je prilikom igranja sa aktivnim bonusom najvažniji zahtev da se prvo ispuni uslov klađenja. Tek tada ćete moći da povučete sav novac sa svog stanja.
Imali ste aktivan bonus, igrali ste i osvojili određeni iznos, ali u tom trenutku uslov za klađenje nije bio ispunjen. Prilikom pokušaja isplate, sistem vas je upozorio porukom u kojoj se navodi da imate aktivan bonus i pita vas da li želite da ga otkažete kako biste izvršili isplatu. Kliknuli ste na „da". Na osnovu ove poruke i Uslova i odredbi bonusa, koji navode da ako imate dobitke dok igrate sa bonusom i otkažete ga, svi dobici će biti oduzeti, kao što se ovde desilo.
Molimo vas da imate na umu da je ovo standardni termin koji se primenjuje na sve naše igrače i da je svačija odgovornost da se informiše o uslovima i odredbama bonusa pre korišćenja bonusa.
Rado ćemo vam pomoći u vezi sa svim što je vezano za naš kazino. Ako imate bilo kakvih drugih pitanja, slobodno kontaktirajte naš tim za podršku.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tim GrejtSpin
Hello andreaspagomenos,
Thank you for your response!
I would like to inform you that, based on the previous explanation of your case, you should already know that when playing with an active bonus, the most important demand is to meet the wagering requirement first. Only then will you be able to withdraw everything in your balance.
You had an active bonus, played, and won an amount, but at that time, the wagering requirement hadn't been met. When trying to submit a withdrawal, the system prompted you with a message stating that you have an active bonus and asking if you want to cancel it in order to submit a withdrawal. You clicked 'yes'. Based on this message and the Terms and Conditions of the bonus, which state that if you have winnings while playing with a bonus and cancel it, all of the winnings will be deducted, as has happened here.
Please keep in mind that this is a standard term applicable to all our players, and it is everyone's own responsibility to be informed of the bonus terms and conditions before using a bonus.
We would be happy to assist you further with anything related to our Casino. If you have any other questions, please do not hesitate to contact our support team.
Hvala vam na ažuriranju, predstavniku GreatSpin kazina. Da li bi bilo moguće da mi dostavite istoriju klađenja igrača na pregled? Možete mi proslediti sve informacije na imejl adresu. ( peter.c@casino.guru ) Unapred hvala na saradnji!
Thank you for the update GreatSpin Casino representative. Would it be possible to provide me with the player's betting history for review? You can forward any information to my email. (peter.c@casino.guru) Thank you in advance for your cooperation!
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Zdravo Pitere, poslao sam ti istoriju transakcija koju su mi upravo poslali na tvoju imejl adresu, možeš videti odnos bonusa i sredstva su se, mislim, pojavila kao gotovina.
Hello Peter, I have forwarded you the transaction history they just sent me to your email, you can see the bonus rel and the funds apeard as Cash, I think.
Hvala vam što ste mi pružili informacije, predstavniku GreatSpin kazina. Iako ovo može biti nekonvencionalan pristup u poređenju sa industrijskim standardima — gde su pravi novac obično dostupan za isplatu — postupili ste u skladu sa navedenim uslovima i odredbama.
Dragi andreaspagomenos, iako razumem tvoju frustraciju, kazino je postupio u skladu sa uslovima i odredbama. Kada nisi siguran/na u to kako se sredstva prikazuju, uvek je dobra ideja da prvo proveriš sa korisničkom podrškom kako bi razjasnio/la sva pravila ili uslove. Zbog gore navedenih razloga, ova žalba će sada biti odbijena. Hvala ti na razumevanju. Žao mi je što nismo mogli da vam pomognemo u ovoj prilici. Slobodno nas kontaktiraj ako naiđeš na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petar
Thank you for providing me with the information GreatSpin Casino representative. While this may be an unconventional approach compared to industry standards—where real funds are typically available for withdrawal—you have acted in accordance with your outlined terms and conditions.
Dear andreaspagomenos, while I understand your frustration, the casino has acted according to the terms and conditions. When in doubt about how funds are displayed, it is always a good idea to first check with the customer support to clear up any rules or conditions. Due to the aforementioned reasons, this complaint will now be rejected. Thank you for your understanding. I am sorry we could not be of more help on this occasion. Please do not hesitate to contact us if you run into any issues with this or any other casino in the future.
Kind regards,
Peter
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