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The player from Ukraine claimed unfair treatment at Johnny24 Casino after depositing 1490 UAH and using his own funds during gameplay. Despite adhering to the bonus rules, his winnings of 2340.60 UAH were confiscated due to misunderstood bonus conditions, which he argued were not transparently presented. The Complaints Team attempted to gather additional information from the player to investigate the issue but ultimately had to reject the complaint due to a lack of response from him.
Igrač iz Ukrajine je tvrdio da je došlo do nepravednog tretmana u kazinu Johnny24 nakon što je uplatio 1490 UAH i koristio sopstvena sredstva tokom igre. Uprkos poštovanju pravila bonusa, njegov dobitak od 2340,60 UAH je konfiskovan zbog pogrešno shvaćenih uslova bonusa, za koje je tvrdio da nisu transparentno predstavljeni. Tim za žalbe je pokušao da prikupi dodatne informacije od igrača kako bi istražio problem, ali je na kraju morao da odbije žalbu zbog nedostatka njegovog odgovora.
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Zdravo,
Podnosim žalbu protiv kazina Johnny24.
Uplatio sam 1490 UAH i dobio 67 UAH od bonusa besplatnih okretaja. Prema pravilima bonusa (koja sam pregledao i imam snimke ekrana), prvo treba koristiti pravi novac, a tek potom bonus sredstva. Moj saldo nikada nije pao ispod 480 UAH tokom igre, što znači da sam koristio sopstvena sredstva.
Dostigao sam stanje od preko 3000 UAH, a na oko 2400 UAH, sistem je iznenada oduzeo 2340,60 UAH, navodeći da je bonus poništen zbog ograničenja dobitka x5 na bonus sredstvima.
Međutim, bonus dobitak je bio samo 67 UAH, a nikada nisam koristio ta sredstva tokom igre. Ipak, sve moje opklade su bile označene kao „bonus opklade", a dobici su kasnije uklonjeni. Pored toga, kazino se poziva na pravila koja nisu bila vidljiva ili povezana tokom prihvatanja bonusa.
Pokušao/la sam da rešim problem sa timom za podršku, ali oni se pozivaju na ograničenja bonusa koja nisu transparentno predstavljena ili fer.
ID igrača: 388343719
Veb-sajt: https://johnny24casino.com
Oduzeti iznos: 2340,60 UAH
Verujem da je ovo nepravedna primena uslova bonusa i molim vas da istražite ovu stvar.
Hvala vam.
Hello,
I am filing a complaint against Johnny24 Casino.
I deposited 1490 UAH and received 67 UAH from a free spins bonus. According to the bonus rules (which I reviewed and have screenshots of), real money should be used first, and bonus funds only afterward. My balance never dropped below 480 UAH during gameplay, meaning I was using my own funds.
I reached a balance of over 3000 UAH, and at around 2400 UAH, the system suddenly deducted 2340.60 UAH, stating that the bonus was voided due to the x5 win limit on bonus funds.
However, the bonus win was only 67 UAH, and I never actually used those funds during gameplay. Still, all my bets were marked as "bonus bets," and the winnings were later removed. Additionally, the casino refers to rules that were not visible or linked during the acceptance of the bonus.
I have tried resolving the matter with the support team, but they are referring to bonus restrictions that are not transparently presented or fair.
Player ID: 388343719
Website: https://johnny24casino.com
Amount confiscated: 2340.60 UAH
I believe this is an unfair application of bonus terms and ask you to investigate this matter.
Thank you.
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Draga Tanja148273442,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je što ste imali problem sa Johnny24 kazinom i problemima koje ste imali sa svojim depozitom i bonus sredstvima.
Da bismo bolje razumeli vašu situaciju i efikasno vam pomogli, molimo vas da nam pružite više detalja o sledećim tačkama:
Možete li mi poslati tačan link ili snimak ekrana bonusa koji ste aktivirali i sa kojim ste igrali?
Da li ste dobili samo besplatne okrete kao bonus ili je vaš depozit takođe aktivirao bonus novčanu nagradu?
Da li je stanje na vašem računu podeljeno na pravi novac i bonus novac?
Da li je vaš depozit kombinovan sa vašim dobicima od besplatnih okretaja u bonus stanju?
Prema Uslovima koje ste nam poslali, dobici od besplatnih okretaja moraju biti uloženi 40 puta. Da li se ovaj zahtev odnosi i na vaš depozit pravog novca?
Koliko je bilo stanje na vašem računu nakon što je sistem primenio ograničenje na vaše dobitke?
Da li ste ranije naišli na slične probleme sa ovim kazinom ili je ovo prvi put?
Vaša saradnja u odgovaranju na ova pitanja će nam pomoći da istražimo vaš slučaj i radimo na rešenju.
Nadam se da možemo da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Veronika
Dear Tanya148273442,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your issue with Johnny24 Casino and the problems you experienced with your deposit and bonus funds.
To better understand your situation and assist you effectively, could you please provide more details regarding the following points:
Could you send me the exact link or a screenshot of the bonus you activated and played with?
Did you receive only free spins as your bonus, or did your deposit also trigger a bonus money reward?
Is your account balance divided into real money and bonus money?
Was your deposit combined with your free spin winnings in the bonus balance?
According to the Terms you sent us, the free spin winnings must be wagered 40 times. Does this requirement apply to your real-money deposit as well?
What was your account balance after the system applied the cap to your winnings?
Have you encountered similar issues with this casino before, or is this the first time?
Your cooperation in answering these questions will help us investigate your case and work towards a resolution.
I hope we can help you resolve this matter as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Veronika
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Draga Veronika,
Hvala vam na odgovoru i što ste ovo istražili. U nastavku ću razjasniti tražene tačke:
1. Detalji o bonusu:
Dobio sam 20 besplatnih okretaja za uplatu 1490 UAH.
Od ovih 20 okretaja, osvojio sam 67 UAH kao bonus dobitak.
Evo snimka ekrana promocije koju sam aktivirao:
2. Da li je bilo dodatnog bonus novca?
Ne, dobio sam samo dobitke od besplatnih okretaja — 67 UAH. Nijedan depozitni iznos ili drugi bonus novac nije uplaćen.
3. Struktura bilansa:
Moj saldo je prikazan kao ukupan iznos, nije jasno razdvojen. Međutim, prema uslovima bonusa (klauzula 2.2), prvo treba koristiti prava sredstva, a bonus sredstva tek nakon što se prava potroše.
Moj saldo nikada nije pao ispod 480 UAH, tako da bonus od 67 UAH nikada nije iskorišćen.
4. Da li je stanje bonusa bilo pomešano?
Da. Nakon što sam primio dobitke od besplatnih okretaja, moj ukupan saldo je bio 1557 UAH (1490 realnih + 67 bonus). Ali sistem ih je spojio u jedan saldo, a kasnije je sve opklade označio kao „bonus opklade", što smatram da je bilo pogrešno.
5. Zahtevi za klađenje:
Bonus od 67 UAH imao je zahtev za klađenje od 40 puta (2680 UAH). Ovo se odnosilo samo na iznos bonusa, a ne na uplaćena sredstva.
6. Stanje nakon primene ograničenja:
Moj saldo pre odbitka je bio oko 2400 UAH. Zatim je sistem oduzeo 2340,60 UAH, ostavljajući mi samo oko 60 UAH. Objasnili su da je to zbog maksimalnog ograničenja isplate bonusa od x5 (335 UAH), ali su to primenili na ceo moj saldo.
Takođe prilažem nekoliko snimaka ekrana iz mog razgovora sa timom za podršku kazina.
U svom odgovoru, pozvali su se na klauzulu 10 uslova bonusa kao opravdanje za odbitak.
Međutim, klauzula 10 u stvarnim uslovima bonusa koji su prikazani pre aktivacije kaže nešto sasvim drugo i ne pominje ništa o rezervisanju celog depozita ili primeni ograničenja bonusa na stvarna sredstva.
Ova nedoslednost dodatno potvrđuje da pravila primenjena na moj slučaj nisu bila ista kao javno dostupni uslovi bonusa u vreme aktivacije.
7. Prethodna izdanja:
Ovo je moja prva žalba na kazino. Pokušao sam da kontaktiram njihovu podršku, ali su se pozvali na interna pravila bonusa koja nisu bila prikazana u originalnom opisu bonusa.
Verujem da je primena ograničenja bonusa na moj puni iznos (uključujući i moj depozit) bila nepravedna i obmanjujuća, i nije bila u skladu sa pravilima koja su prikazana pre nego što sam prihvatio bonus.
Hvala vam još jednom na podršci.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tanja148273442
Dear Veronika,
Thank you for your response and for looking into this. I’ll clarify the requested points below:
1.Bonus Details:
I received 20 free spins for depositing 1490 UAH.
From these 20 spins, I won 67 UAH as bonus winnings.
Here is a screenshot of the promotion I activated:
2.Was there additional bonus money?
No, I only received winnings from the free spins — 67 UAH. No deposit match or other bonus money was credited.
3.Balance structure:
My balance was displayed as a total amount, not clearly separated. However, according to the bonus terms (clause 2.2), real funds should be used first, and bonus funds only after the real ones are depleted.
My balance never went below 480 UAH, so the 67 UAH bonus was never used.
4.Was the bonus balance mixed?
Yes. After receiving the free spin winnings, my total balance was 1557 UAH (1490 real + 67 bonus). But the system combined them in one balance, and then later marked all bets as "bonus bets", which I believe was incorrect.
5.Wagering requirements:
The 67 UAH bonus had a 40x wagering requirement (2680 UAH). This applied only to the bonus amount, not the deposited funds.
6.Balance after the cap was applied:
My balance before the deduction was around 2400 UAH. Then the system deducted 2340.60 UAH, leaving me with only around 60 UAH. They explained it was due to a maximum bonus payout cap of x5 (335 UAH), but they applied it to my whole balance.
I’m also attaching below several screenshots from my conversation with the casino’s support team.
In their response, they referred to Clause 10 of the bonus terms as justification for the deduction.
However, the Clause 10 in the actual bonus terms that were shown before activation says something completely different, and does not mention anything about reserving the full deposit or applying bonus restrictions to real funds.
This inconsistency further confirms that the rules applied to my case were not the same as the publicly available bonus terms at the time of activation.
7.Previous issues:
This is my first complaint with the casino. I tried contacting their support, but they referred to internal bonus rules that were not shown in the original bonus description.
I believe the application of the bonus cap to my full balance (including my deposit) was unfair and misleading, and not in accordance with the rules shown before I accepted the bonus.
Thank you again for your support.
Best regards,
Tanya148273442
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Hvala vam na odgovoru. Molim vas, zatražite od kazina da vam pošalje vašu istoriju igranja u Eksel formatu od trenutka kada ste uplatili i aktivirali bonus, pa sve do trenutka kada su vaši dobici ograničeni, a zatim mi je prosledite na veronika.f@casino.guru Hvala vam na strpljenju i saradnji.
Thank you for your response. Please request the casino to send you your gaming history in Excel format from the moment you deposited and activated the bonus, up to the moment your winnings were capped, and then forward it to me at veronika.f@casino.guru. Thank you for your patience and cooperation.
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Dragi Tanya148273442,
Produžavamo tajmer za 7 dana. Molim vas da znate da ukoliko ne odgovorite u zadato vreme ili ne pružite asistenciju, mi ćemo da odbijemo prigovor.
Dear Tanya148273442,
We are extending the timer by 7 days. Please, be aware that in case you fail to respond in the given time frame or don’t require any further assistance, we will reject the complaint.
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Nažalost, igrač nije odgovorio na naše poruke i pitanja. Shodno tome, nismo u mogućnosti da dalje istražujemo i nemamo drugog izbora nego da odbijemo ovu žalbu.
Igrač može ponovo pokrenuti ovu žalbu u bilo kom trenutku.
Unfortunately, the player has not responded to our messages and questions. Consequently, we are unable to investigate further and have no choice but to reject this complaint.
The player can reopen this complaint at any time.
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