Dragi Jenspali,
Kontaktirao sam kazino Karhubet i dobio njihov odgovor; međutim, to nije bio baš onakav odgovor kakav sam očekivao ili želeo.
Iako uvek težimo da pronađemo rešenje na našem forumu, mogu postojati specifična ograničenja u onome što možemo postići u određenim situacijama.
Dobio/la sam sledeći odgovor:
Zdravo Mihal,
Nadamo se da ste dobro.
Nakon temeljnog pregleda naloga, obaveštavamo vas da su dobici igrača oduzeti, početni depozit vraćen i da je nalog zatvoren zbog registracije u istom domaćinstvu, u skladu sa našim Uslovima i odredbama (Odeljak 4.3).
Kao što je navedeno u našim Uslovima i odredbama: karhubet.com - kazino i slot igre za pokret.
„Strogo je zabranjeno imati više naloga koje registrujete ili koristite vi ili bilo ko iz iste porodice ili živi u istom domaćinstvu i/ili na više uređaja. Kompanija neće biti ni na koji način odgovorna za sprečavanje registracije više naloga, ali može preduzeti mere, uključujući zadržavanje svih sredstava na takvim računima, kao i svih povezanih dobitaka, protiv bilo koje osobe koja otvori više naloga, uključujući, ali ne ograničavajući se na situacije kada su nalozi registrovani iz istog domaćinstva, bez obzira na podatke o registraciji date u vreme otvaranja takvih naloga. Svi bonusi i besplatne opklade nagomilane korišćenjem takvih više naloga biće poništene i uklonjene."
Ova mera je preduzeta u skladu sa našim politikama usklađenosti i bezbednosti kako bi se osiguralo fer korišćenje platforme i poštovanje naših Uslova i odredbi.
Iskreno se izvinjavamo zbog eventualnih neprijatnosti koje ovo može prouzrokovati i cenimo vaše razumevanje. Ukoliko imate bilo kakvih pitanja ili vam je potrebno dodatno pojašnjenje, slobodno nas kontaktirajte.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Marisol
Karhubet
Tražio sam potkrepljujuće informacije i dokaze u vezi sa njihovim tvrdnjama i dobio sam ovaj odgovor.
Dragi Mihale,
Hvala vam na poruci.
Želeli bismo da pojasnimo da je sporna konfiskacija bila povezana sa registracijom više naloga iz istog domaćinstva, što predstavlja direktno kršenje naših Uslova i odredbi.
Međutim, zbog propisa o zaštiti podataka (GDPR), nismo u mogućnosti da pružimo prateće dokaze koji sadrže lične podatke drugih igrača. Ova mera je na snazi radi zaštite privatnosti i poverljivosti svih vlasnika naloga.
Cenimo vaše razumevanje u vezi sa ovim pitanjem i ostajemo vam na raspolaganju ukoliko vam budu potrebna dodatna pojašnjenja u okviru ovih smernica.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Olga
Karhubet
Iako ovo svakako nije odgovor koji sam očekivao, ne možemo kriviti kazino što poštuje svoju politiku privatnosti i usklađenost sa GDPR propisima.
Ipak, kazino Karhubet ima određenu uslugu za alternativno rešavanje sporova („ADR") - eCOGRA Limited.
eCOGRA je nezavisna organizacija koja nudi nezavisno rešavanje sporova oko klađenja i kockanja; stoga vam preporučujem da podnesete obrazac za zahteve na ADR za onlajn kockanje | Pritužbe na eCOGRA . Alternativno, možete poslati e-poštu eCOGRA-i sa detaljima vaše žalbe na complaints@ecogra.org .
Nakon što primim vašu potvrdu u vezi sa podnošenjem žalbe, privremeno ću zatvoriti slučaj dok čekamo odluku regulatora.
Ovo možda nije idealan postupak, ali odražava trenutne mogućnosti.
Molim vas, recite mi kako želite da nastavite dalje.
Dear Jenspali,
I have contacted Karhubet Casino and received their reply; however, it was not quite the response I anticipated or wished for.
While we always aim to find a resolution on our forum, there can be specific limitations to what we can accomplish in certain situations.
I have received the following response:
Hi Michal,
We hope you are well.
Following a thorough review of the account, we would like to inform that the winnings of the player have been forfeited, the initial deposit has been refunded, and the account has been closed due to a same household registration, in accordance with our Terms and Conditions (Section 4.3).
As outlined in our Terms and Conditions: karhubet.com - casino and slot games on the go.
"Holding multiple accounts being registered or used by you or by anyone from the same family or living in the same household and/or across multiple devices is strictly prohibited. The Company shall not be responsible in any way for preventing the registration of multiple accounts, but can take action, including retaining all monies in such accounts as well as any related Winnings, against any person opening multiple accounts, including but not limited to situations where accounts are registered from the same household, regardless of the registration details provided at the time of opening such accounts. Any and all bonuses and free bets accrued using such multiple accounts shall be voided and removed."
This action has been taken in line with our compliance and security policies to ensure fair usage of the platform and adherence to our Terms and Conditions.
We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and appreciate your understanding. If you have any questions or require further clarification, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards,
Marisol
Karhubet
I have asked for the supporting information and evidence regarding their claims, and I received this reply.
Dear Michal,
Thank you for your message.
We would like to clarify that the confiscation in question was related to the registration of multiple accounts from the same household, which is a direct violation of our Terms and Conditions.
However, due to data protection regulations (GDPR), we are unable to provide supporting evidence that contains personal details of other players. This measure is in place to protect the privacy and confidentiality of all account holders.
We appreciate your understanding regarding this matter and remain available should you require any further clarification within these guidelines.
Kind regards,
Olga
Karhubet
Although this certainly is not the response I had anticipated, we cannot fault the casino for following their privacy policy and their compliance with GDPR regulations.
Nevertheless, Karhubet Casino does have a designated Alternative Dispute Resolution ("ADR") service - eCOGRA Limited.
eCOGRA is a third-party organisation offering independent adjudication in relation to betting and gaming disputes; thus, I recommend that you submit a Claims Form at ADR For Online Gambling | eCOGRA Complaints. Alternatively, you may email eCOGRA with details of your complaint at complaints@ecogra.org.
Upon receiving your confirmation regarding the submission of the complaint, I will proceed to temporarily close the case as we await the regulator's decision.
This may not be the ideal course of action, but it reflects the current possibilities.
Please let me know how you want to move forward.
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