Draga Orandž,
Hvala vam na detaljnom odgovoru i što ste nam dali dodatne snimke ekrana. Zaista razumemo koliko je ova situacija razočaravajuća, posebno nakon što ste osvojili tako značajan iznos džekpota i ispunili sve uslove za klađenje.
Nakon pažljivog pregleda svih informacija koje ste podelili, nažalost moramo da zaključimo da je kazino izgleda postupio u skladu sa svojim bonus uslovima :
Moguće je ograničiti korišćenje BONUS IGRA za određene igre koje uključuju džekpot (progresivni ili lokalni džekpot), bilo za te igre uopšte ili samo za osvajanje džekpota relevantne igre.
19. Maksimalni iznos koji učesnik prima na svoj igrački račun ograničen je na 150.000 denara, bez obzira na veličinu iznosa primljenog kroz igru sa bonusom ili kroz bonus igru i bez obzira na uplatu bonus salda.
Potvrdili ste da je džekpot osvojen dok je bonus na depozit bio aktivan. U takvim slučajevima, svi dobici generisani tokom bonus igre – bez obzira da li potiču od regularnih okretaja ili od softverskog/progresivnog džekpota – obično se tretiraju kao bonus dobici. To znači da ostaju podložni uslovima bonusa, uključujući bilo kakvu maksimalnu konverziju ili maksimalne limite za isplatu.
Iako razumemo vaš argument da džekpot finansira provajder i da se oseća drugačije od standardnog dobitka, sa tehničkog i ugovornog stanovišta, odlučujući faktor je da se dobitak dogodio tokom aktivne bonus igre. Kada igraju sa bonusom, igrači prihvataju da su svi rezultujući dobici regulisani uslovima bonusa.
Slažemo se da može delovati nepravedno, posebno zato što je sistem dozvoljavao da se uloži puni iznos džekpota i primenjivao je ograničenje tek nakon završetka klađenja. Međutim, ovaj mehanizam je uobičajen u mnogim onlajn kazinima – stanje bonusa može da pređe maksimalni limit konverzije tokom igre, ali ograničenje se primenjuje u trenutku konverzije u pravi novac.
Na osnovu raspoloživih dokaza i činjenice da je džekpot osvojen tokom aktivne bonus igre, ne vidimo osnove da zahtevamo od kazina da isplati puni iznos iznad navedenog maksimalnog limita konverzije bonusa.
Razumemo da ovo nije ishod koji ste očekivali i zaista nam je žao što vam ne možemo više pomoći u ovom slučaju. Ako odlučite da igrate sa bonusima u budućnosti, toplo preporučujemo da pažljivo pregledate maksimalne limite za konverziju/isplatu unapred, posebno kada igrate igre sa velikom varijansom ili džekpotovima.
Srdačan pozdrav
Veronika
Dear Orange,
Thank you for your detailed reply and for providing the additional screenshots. We truly understand how disappointing this situation must feel, especially after hitting such a significant jackpot amount and completing the full wagering requirement.
After carefully reviewing all the information you shared, we unfortunately have to conclude that the casino appears to have acted in line with its bonus terms :
It is possible to limit the use of BONUS GAMES for certain games that include a jackpot (progressive or local jackpot), either for those games in general or only for winning the jackpot of the relevant game.
19. The maximum amount that the participant receives on his/her gaming account is limited to 150,000 denars, regardless of the size of the amount received through a game with a bonus or through a bonus game and regardless of the crediting of the bonus balance.
You confirmed that the jackpot was won while a deposit bonus was active. In such cases, all winnings generated during bonus play – regardless of whether they come from regular spins or from a software/progressive jackpot – are typically treated as bonus winnings. This means they remain subject to the bonus conditions, including any maximum conversion or maximum withdrawal limits.
While we understand your argument that a jackpot is funded by the provider and feels different from a standard win, from a technical and contractual standpoint, the decisive factor is that the win occurred during active bonus play. When playing with a bonus, players accept that all resulting winnings are governed by the bonus terms.
We agree that it may feel unfair, especially since the system allowed the full jackpot amount to be wagered and only applied the cap after completion of wagering. However, this mechanism is common in many online casinos – the bonus balance can grow beyond the maximum conversion limit during play, but the cap is applied at the moment of conversion to real money.
Based on the available evidence and the fact that the jackpot was won during active bonus play, we do not see grounds to require the casino to pay the full amount beyond the stated maximum bonus conversion limit.
We understand this is not the outcome you were hoping for, and we are truly sorry we cannot be of more help in this case. If you decide to play with bonuses in the future, we strongly recommend carefully reviewing the maximum conversion/withdrawal limits beforehand, especially when playing high-variance or jackpot games.
Best regards
Veronica
Dear Orange,
Thank you for your detailed reply and for providing the additional screenshots. We truly understand how disappointing this situation must feel, especially after hitting such a significant jackpot amount and completing the full wagering requirement.
After carefully reviewing all the information you shared, we unfortunately have to conclude that the casino appears to have acted in line with its bonus terms:
Можно е да се ограничи употребата на БОНУС ИГРИ за одредени игри во кои е вклучен џек пот (прогресивен или локален џекпот), така за тие игри во општо или само за освојување на џек потот на соодветната игра.
19. Максималниот износ што учесникот го добива на својота сметка за играње е ограничен на 150 000 денари, независно од големината на добиениот износ преку игра со бонус или преку бонус игра и независно од кредитирањето на бонус-балансот.
You confirmed that the jackpot was won while a deposit bonus was active. In such cases, all winnings generated during bonus play – regardless of whether they come from regular spins or from a software/progressive jackpot – are typically treated as bonus winnings. This means they remain subject to the bonus conditions, including any maximum conversion or maximum withdrawal limits.
While we understand your argument that a jackpot is funded by the provider and feels different from a standard win, from a technical and contractual standpoint, the decisive factor is that the win occurred during active bonus play. When playing with a bonus, players accept that all resulting winnings are governed by the bonus terms.
We agree that it may feel unfair, especially since the system allowed the full jackpot amount to be wagered and only applied the cap after completion of wagering. However, this mechanism is common in many online casinos – the bonus balance can grow beyond the maximum conversion limit during play, but the cap is applied at the moment of conversion to real money.
Based on the available evidence and the fact that the jackpot was won during active bonus play, we do not see grounds to require the casino to pay the full amount beyond the stated maximum bonus conversion limit.
We understand this is not the outcome you were hoping for, and we are truly sorry we cannot be of more help in this case. If you decide to play with bonuses in the future, we strongly recommend carefully reviewing the maximum conversion/withdrawal limits beforehand, especially when playing high-variance or jackpot games.
Best regards
Veronika
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