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The player from Ireland has issues with National Casino after hitting winnings of over 900 euros. After cancelling their bonus and verifying their account, they received an email stating their balance was reduced to 30 euros, despite having followed the terms correctly regarding the cancellation of the bonus. The player believes the casino has breached its own terms and is seeking clarification and resolution.
Igrač iz Irske ima problema sa National Casino-om nakon što je osvojio preko 900 evra. Nakon otkazivanja bonusa i verifikacije naloga, dobio je imejl u kojem se navodi da mu je stanje smanjeno na 30 evra, uprkos tome što je pravilno poštovao uslove u vezi sa otkazivanjem bonusa. Igrač smatra da je kazino prekršio sopstvene uslove i traži pojašnjenje i rešenje.
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Zdravo,
Registrovao sam se i igrao u National Casino-u. Ostvario sam nekoliko dobrih dobitaka i moj saldo je dostigao preko 900 evra. Imao sam kazino bonus, ali pošto nisam pomešao sredstva i potpuno prešao na bonus, a National ih je razdvojio, pratio sam uslove, otkazao bonus i nastavio da se kladim sa dobicima koji su ostali na mom novčanom saldu. Na kazino i nešto na svetskom prvenstvu.
Verifikovao sam svoj nalog (uz malo poteškoća) i zatražio isplatu. Zatim sam primio priloženi imejl.
Priložio sam istoriju gde su uklonili stanje i dokaz da sam otkazao bonus.
Takođe sam priložio razgovor pre registracije i zatraživanja bonusa gde sam sve ovo objasnio.
Ovde su prekršili sopstvene uslove (ni ja nisam prešao 5 evra). Njihov uslov ovde glasi - 2f. Igrači mogu da zahtevaju povlačenje svog depozita pre nego što ispune uslove klađenja. Međutim, u ovom slučaju, bonus i svi rezultirajući dobici biće oduzeti . - 2d. Bilo koji bonus se može otkazati pre nego što se ispune uslovi klađenja. U suprotnom, otkazivanjem bonusa igrač prihvata da se svi dobici ostvareni tokom igranja sa ovim bonusom, ako ih ima, i iznos bonusa oduzimaju od igračevog bonus stanja. Molimo kontaktirajte korisničku podršku kazina National da biste saznali više o otkazivanju bonusa. - To je upravo ono što sam uradio, kao što pokazuju snimci ekrana, i iznos bonusa i mali dobici na njemu su obrisani, ali ne i sredstva koja su bila pripisana gotovini i gotovinski dobici. Nigde ne piše da će biti uklonjeni?
Sada su mi na račun stavili samo 30. Ovo nije prihvatljivo. Nisam počinio nikakvu prevaru, samo sam imao dobar profit, povukao ono što je otišlo u gotovinu i obrisao kazino bonus (ne bi imalo smisla okretati 900 evra plus sve ostalo da bi se došlo do iznosa bonusa od 250). Da je bonus bio zadržavajući, očigledno ne bih mogao da podignem i nastavio bih da igram?
Hello,
I signed up and played at National Casino. I hit a few good wins and got my balance to over 900 euros. I had the casino bonus but as I hadn't mixed the funds and gone into bonus completely and National separated them I followed the terms, cancelled the bonus and continued to bet with the winnings that were left on my cash balance. On casino and some world cup.
I verified my account (with a bit of difficulty) and requested a withdrawal. I then received the attached email.
I have attached the history where they have removed the balance and proof of me cancelling the bonus.
I have also attached a chat before signing up and claiming the bonus where I covered all of this.
They have breached their own terms here (I also did not go over 5 euros). Their term here states - 2f. Players can request a withdrawal of their deposit prior to meeting the wagering requirements. However, in this case, the bonus and any resulting winnings will be forfeited. - 2d. Any bonus can be cancelled before meeting the wagering requirements. Otherwise, by cancelling the bonus the player accepts that all the winnings gained while playing with this bonus, if any, and the bonus amount are deducted from the player's bonus balance. Please contact National casino customer support to learn more about cancelling a bonus. - That's exactly what I did as the screenshots show and the bonus amount and the small winnings on it were deleted but not the funds that had credited to cash and the cash winnings. Nowhere does it state they would be removed?
They have now put only 30 on my account. This isn't acceptable. I've done no fraudulent activity, I've simply had a nice hit, withdrawn what went into cash and deleted the casino bonus (It would make no sense to spin away 900 euro plus all to get down to a bonus amount of 250). If the bonus was sticky I obviously wouldn't have been able to withdraw and would of kept playing?
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Zdravo,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli ovu žalbu. Žao mi je zbog problema koji imate. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bismo razjasnili vašu situaciju.
Možete li, molim vas, navesti koje ste igre igrali dok je vaš bonus bio aktivan?
Da li sam dobro razumeo da ste otkazali bonus pre nego što ste počeli da ulažete iznos bonusa?
Da li ste pre otkazivanja bonusa dobili neka iskačuća obaveštenja ili upozorenja koja su vas obaveštavala da će vaš saldo biti oduzet?
Da li je kazino naveo koju vrstu prevare ste navodno počinili?
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće. Unapred vam hvala na odgovoru.
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Veronika
Hello,
Thank you very much for submitting this complaint. I'm sorry to hear about the problem you're experiencing. Please allow me to ask you a few questions to clarify your situation.
Could you please specify which games you played while your bonus was active?
Am I correct in understanding that you cancelled the bonus before you started wagering the bonus balance?
Did you receive any pop-up notifications or warnings before cancelling the bonus informing you that your balance would be forfeited?
Has the casino specified what type of fraud you allegedly committed?
I hope we will be able to help you resolve this issue as soon as possible. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Best regards
Veronika
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Možete li, molim vas, navesti koje ste igre igrali dok je vaš bonus bio aktivan? Različiti slotovi, ali kao što vidite, još uvek sam bio u novcu.
Da li sam dobro razumeo da ste otkazali bonus pre nego što ste počeli da ulažete iznos bonusa? Da, proverio sam i sa podrškom, u prilogu.
Da li ste pre otkazivanja bonusa dobili neka iskačuća obaveštenja ili upozorenja koja su vas obaveštavala da će vaš saldo biti oduzet? Kao što je rekao agent za ćaskanje i kao što originalni snimak ekrana pokazuje, pokazalo se da će samo 413 evra biti otkazano, novac u gotovini (što je novac koji su ukrali) je ostao i onda sam mogao da ga koristim za sport i druge slotove itd.
Da li je kazino naveo koju vrstu prevare ste navodno počinili? U tom imejlu kažu „aktivnost na nalogu koja se smatra prevarom". Što je neosnovano, sve sam proverio putem ćaskanja, postupio sam u skladu sa njihovim uslovima i zaradio sam samo novac na svom novcu, a ne na bonusu. Moj nalog je takođe verifikovan.
Ne razumem baš. Čak i da sam igrao igre da bih skupljao vrednosti na BGT igri itd., sve bi bilo u novcu, a ne u bonusu, jer sam obrisao (inače, nisam to uradio), a ako biste pokušali da igrate igre poput Rojal Minta, iskačući prozor bi vas zaustavio govoreći „nije dozvoljeno sa bonusom".
Rekao bih da je igrač koji uspe da poveća svoj novčani saldo 3 puta veći od depozita, a zatim želi da povuče deo novca kako bi mogao da igra bez rizika, suprotan od prevare...
Could you please specify which games you played while your bonus was active?. Different slots but as you can see I was still in cash.
Am I correct in understanding that you cancelled the bonus before you started wagering the bonus balance? Yes, I checked with support also, attached.
Did you receive any pop-up notifications or warnings before cancelling the bonus informing you that your balance would be forfeited? As the chat agent said and as the original screenshot shows it showed just the €413 would be cancelled, the money in cash (which is the money they stole) remained and I was able then to use this on sports and other slots etc.
Has the casino specified what type of fraud you allegedly committed? They say in that email 'activity in the account which is considered fraud'. Which is unfounded, I checked every with chat, I acted in line with their terms and only made money on my cash not the bonus. My account was also verified.
I don't really get it. Even if I was playing games to build up values on a BGT game etc, it would have been all in cash and not bonus as I deleted (I didn't do this by the way) and if you tried to play games like royal mint a pop up stopped you saying 'not allowed with bonus'.
I would say a player that manages to get their cash balance 3x their deposit and then wants to withdraw some of it so they can play risk free is the opposite of fraud...
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Draga laurasheppy89
Hvala vam na saradnji i što ste nam pružili sve potrebne informacije. Zaista cenim vreme i trud koji ste uložili da sve do sada podelite sa nama.
Vaša žalba će sada preći u sledeću fazu našeg procesa i njome će se baviti vaš dodeljeni rešavač, Samjuel ( samuel.s@casino.guru ). Ovo je standardni korak u našoj proceduri, jer će Rezolver direktno preuzeti komunikaciju sa kazinom i upravljati vašim slučajem od ove tačke pa nadalje.
Trenutno nije potrebna nikakva akcija od vas. Vaš rešavač će vas kontaktirati putem ove teme ako budu potrebni dodatni detalji. Možete biti sigurni da je vaš slučaj u veoma sposobnim rukama.
Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš slučaj uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Veronika
Dear laurasheppy89
Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.
Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Samuel (samuel.s@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.
No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.
I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Kind regards,
Veronika
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Draga laurasheppy89,
Drago mi je što smo se upoznali putem e-pošte. Zovem se Samjuel i od sada ću vam pomagati sa vašom žalbom.
Ako ima nekih novosti ili detalja od vaše poslednje poruke, molim vas da ih podelite sa mnom.
Kao deo naše standardne procedure, takođe pozivam predstavnika kompanije National Casino da se pridruži ovom razgovoru. Njihov doprinos bi trebalo da nam pomogne da efikasnije pokrenemo slučaj.
Dragi Nacionalni kazino,
Molimo vas da pružite detaljne informacije o problemu igrača, posebno tačne razloge zbog kojih su dobici konfiskovani, uključujući sva navodna kršenja pravila ili relevantne uslove i odredbe.
Hvala vam na saradnji i blagovremenom odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Samuel
Dear laurasheppy89,
It’s nice to e-meet you. My name is Samuel, and I’ll be assisting you with your complaint from now on.
If there are any updates or new details since your last message, please share them with me.
As part of our standard procedure, I’m also inviting a representative from National Casino to join this conversation. Their input should help us move the case forward more efficiently.
Dear National Casino,
Please provide detailed information regarding the player’s issue, specifically the exact reasons why the winnings were confiscated, including any alleged rule violations or relevant terms and conditions.
Thank you for your cooperation and a timely response.
Best regards,
Samuel
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Zdravo laurasheppy89,
Želeli bismo da pregledamo vaš slučaj, ali nažalost, nismo uspeli da pronađemo nalog koristeći podatke navedene u žalbi.
Možete li, molim vas, razjasniti ID vašeg igračkog naloga ili adresu e-pošte koju ste koristili za registraciju?
Kada dobijemo ove informacije, moći ćemo dalje da proverimo slučaj.
Hello laurasheppy89,
We would like to review your case, but unfortunately, we were not able to locate an account using the details provided in the complaint.
Could you please clarify your gaming account ID or the email address used for registration?
Once we receive this information, we will be able to check the case further.
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam na ažuriranju.
Draga laurasheppy89,
Možete li, molim vas, dati kazinu vaš ID naloga ili adresu e-pošte koja je korišćena za registraciju, kako je traženo?
Hvala vam na saradnji.
Hello everyone,
thank you for the update.
Dear laurasheppy89,
could you please provide the casino with your account ID or the email address used for registration, as requested?
Thank you for your cooperation.
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laurajayne8236@outlook.com
Nisam mogao/mogla da pronađem ID naloga?
laurajayne8236@outlook.com
I couldn't find an account ID?
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Draga laurasheppy89,
Želeli bismo da pružimo ažuriranje u vezi sa ovim slučajem.
Nakon pregleda situacije, možemo potvrditi da je vaš nalog greškom zatvoren. Iskreno se izvinjavamo zbog prouzrokovanih neprijatnosti.
Račun je sada ponovo otvoren, a stanje je u potpunosti vraćeno.
Hvala vam na strpljenju dok je slučaj bio u toku.
Dear laurasheppy89,
We would like to provide an update regarding this case.
After reviewing the situation, we can confirm that your account was closed by mistake. We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience caused.
The account has now been reopened, and the balance has been fully restored.
Thank you for your patience while the case was being reviewed.
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam na ažuriranju.
Dragi Nacionalni kazino,
Hvala vam što ste pregledali slučaj i razjasnili šta se dogodilo. Cenim vašu saradnju i vašu odluku da ponovo otvorite igračev nalog i vratite puno stanje.
Draga laurasheppy89,
Čini se da je ovo pozitivan ishod. Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da sada možete pristupiti svom nalogu i da je vaš saldo zaista u potpunosti vraćen? Ako je sve u redu, moći ću da zatvorim ovu žalbu kao rešenu.
Hvala vam obojici na saradnji.
Hello everyone,
thank you for the update.
Dear National Casino,
thank you for reviewing the case and for clarifying what happened. I appreciate your cooperation and your decision to reopen the player's account and restore the full balance.
Dear laurasheppy89,
this appears to be a positive outcome. Could you please confirm that you are now able to access your account and that your balance has indeed been fully restored? If everything is in order, I will be able to close this complaint as resolved.
Thank you both for your cooperation.
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Nažalost ne. Uspeo sam jednom da uđem u igru posle ovoga, uspeo sam da igram još malo i čak da podignem 500 evra. Međutim, sada ne mogu da pristupim računu (ostalo mi je oko 270).
Prikupljanje priloga. Čak i kada se lozinka resetuje...
Unfortunetly not. I was able to get into it once after this, managed to play abit more and even get a withdrawal of 500 euro processed. However I now cannot get in the account (about 270 left in there).
Getting the attached. Even when password is reset...
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam na ažuriranju.
Draga laurasheppy89,
Hvala vam što ste me obavestili i što ste nam dali snimak ekrana. Razumem vašu zabrinutost, posebno zato što ste prvobitno mogli da pristupite svom nalogu, nastavite da igrate, pa čak i uspešno podignete 500 evra pre nego što ste ponovo naišli na isti problem.
Dragi Nacionalni kazino,
Možete li, molim vas, ponovo pregledati igračev nalog? Igrač prijavljuje da je nalog ponovo postao nedostupan iako je prethodno bio ponovo otvoren. Prema rečima igrača, na računu je još uvek preostalo oko 270 evra.
Možete li, molim vas, razjasniti šta je dovelo do toga da nalog ponovo postane nedostupan i pomoći igraču da ponovo dobije pristup kako bi mogao da podigne preostali iznos?
Hvala vam obojici na saradnji.
Hello everyone,
thank you for the update.
Dear laurasheppy89,
thank you for letting me know and for providing the screenshot. I understand your concern, especially since you were initially able to access your account, continue playing, and even successfully withdraw €500 before encountering the same issue again.
Dear National Casino,
could you please review the player's account once again? The player reports that the account has become inaccessible again despite previously being reopened. According to the player, there is still approximately €270 remaining in the account.
Could you please clarify what caused the account to become inaccessible again and assist the player in restoring access so they can withdraw the remaining balance?
Thank you both for your cooperation.
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Zdravo laurasheppy89,
Molimo vas da ponovo pokušate da se prijavite na svoj nalog i pošaljete zahtev za povlačenje sredstava. Sada bi sve trebalo da radi ispravno.
Hello laurasheppy89,
Please try logging into your account again and submitting a withdrawal request. Everything should now be working correctly.
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Zdravo svima,
Hvala vam na ažuriranju.
Draga laurasheppy89,
Možete li, molim vas, potvrditi da li sada možete pristupiti svom nalogu i uspešno poslati zahtev za povlačenje sredstava?
Molimo vas da nas obavestite da li sada sve ispravno funkcioniše ili da li i dalje imate problema.
Hvala vam na saradnji.
Hello everyone,
thank you for the update.
Dear laurasheppy89,
could you please confirm whether you are now able to access your account and submit the withdrawal request successfully?
Please let us know if everything is working correctly now or if you are still experiencing any issues.
Thank you for your cooperation.
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