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The player from Greece was unable to contact the National Bet casino for assistance regarding their issues. The player experienced account closure immediately after depositing €100, with no opportunity to play or withdraw funds. After intervention from the Complaints Team, the casino agreed to reopen the player's account, allowing access to the €100 balance for gameplay while suspending further deposits and delaying withdrawals for six months to mitigate risks associated with potential chargebacks. The situation was resolved to the satisfaction of both parties involved.
Igrač iz Grčke nije mogao da kontaktira National Bet casino za pomoć u vezi sa njihovim problemima. Igrač je doživeo zatvaranje računa odmah nakon što je uplatio 100 €, bez mogućnosti da igra ili povuče sredstva. Nakon intervencije Žalbenog tima, kazino je pristao da ponovo otvori račun igrača, omogućavajući pristup saldu od 100 € za igranje, dok je suspendovao dalje depozite i odložio povlačenje na šest meseci kako bi se ublažili rizici povezani sa potencijalnim povraćajem sredstava. Situacija je rešena na zadovoljstvo obe strane.
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Ne mogu da kontaktiram kazino National Bet.
I am unable to contact the National Bet casino.
Δεν μπορώ να επικοινωνήσω με το καζίνο national bet
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Dragi makelios6,
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Nažalost, nisam u mogućnosti da vam pomognem u ovom slučaju na osnovu trenutnog opisa događaja i biće mi potrebno više informacija. Možete li, molim vas, detaljnije? Da li postoji razlog zašto treba da stupite u kontakt sa kazinom?
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Dear makelios6,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. Unfortunately, I’m not able to assist you with this case based on the current description of events and I will need more information. Could you please elaborate? Is there any reason you need to get in touch with the casino?
I will be waiting for your reply patiently.
Best regards,
Kristina
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Postoji aktivno stanje od 100 evra koje želim da podignem.
Ne mogu da pristupim svom nalogu
There is an active balance of 100 euros that I want to withdraw.
I can't access my account
Υπάρχει ενεργό υπόλοιπο 100 ευρώ πού θέλω να αποσύρω.
Δεν έχω πρόσβαση στον λογαριασμό μου
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Hvala vam na odgovoru, makelios6. Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja, kako bih u potpunosti razumeo celu situaciju.
Možete li molim vas da nam kažete na koje igre ste se fokusirali - slotovi, kazino uživo, sportsko klađenje, itd.?
Da li ste akumulirali svoje dobitke sa ili bez aktivnog bonusa?
Da li ste prošli verifikaciju pre nego što ste izgubili pristup kazino nalogu?
Hvala.
Thank you for your reply, makelios6. Please allow me to ask you a few questions, so I can understand the whole situation completely.
Could you please advise which games you focused on - slots, live casino, sports betting, etc.?
Did you accumulate your winnings with or without an active bonus?
Did you pass the verification before you lost access to the casino account?
Thank you.
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Nema profita.
Napravio sam depozit od 100 evra i čim je novac uplaćen na moj račun, kazino je neobjašnjivo zatvorio moj račun.
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There are no profits.
I made a deposit of 100 euros and as soon as the money was credited to my account the casino inexplicably closed my account.
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Δεν υπάρχουν κέρδη.
Πραγματοποίησα μια κατάθεση 100 ευρώ και μόλις τα χρήματα πιστώθηκαν στο λογαριασμό μου στο καζίνο αυτό ανεξήγητα έκλεισε τον λογαριασμό μου.
Κουλοχέρηδες
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Kada ste poslednji put kontaktirali kazino u vezi sa ovim problemom? Još uvek nema odgovora?
When was the last time you contacted the casino about this issue? Still no response?
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pre 20 dana.
Od tada nisu odgovorili ni na jedan moj mejl.
20 days ago.
Since then they have not responded to any of my emails.
Πριν 20 ημέρες.
Έκτοτε δεν απαντούν σε κανένα εμαιλ μου.
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Možete li pojasniti vrednost spora (800 €)? Da li sam dobro razumeo na osnovu vašeg prethodnog odgovora da ste imali 100 € na svom kazino nalogu kada je blokiran?
Could you please clarify the dispute value (€800)? Do I understand correctly based on your previous reply that you had €100 in your casino account when it was blocked?
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da 100
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Hvala puno, makelios6, na saradnji, promenio sam vrednost spora na 100€. Sada ću preneti vašu žalbu kolegi Mihalu ( michal.k@casino.guru ) koji će vam biti na usluzi. Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će problem biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo u bliskoj budućnosti.
Thank you very much, makelios6, for your cooperation, I changed the dispute value to €100. I will now transfer your complaint to my colleague Michal (michal.k@casino.guru) who will be at your service. I wish you the best of luck and hope the problem will be resolved to your satisfaction in the near future.
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Zdravo makelios6,
Ja sam Mihal i preuzeo sam vašu žalbu. Pregledao sam vaš slučaj i kontaktiraću kazino da vidim da li mogu da pomognem.
Želeli bismo da pozovemo NationalBet Casino da se pridruži razgovoru.
Poštovani NationalBet kazino,
Razumem da svaki kazino zadržava pravo da zatvori račune igrača po sopstvenom nahođenju. Međutim, neophodno je da se sve finansijske obaveze izmire pre preduzimanja ovakvih radnji, posebno u vezi sa povraćajem depozita igrača. Možete li nas obavestiti kada će ovaj proces biti završen?
Hello makelios6,
I'm Michal, and I have taken over your complaint. I have reviewed your case and I will contact the casino to see if I can help.
We would like to invite NationalBet Casino to join the conversation.
Dear NationalBet Casino,
I understand that each casino reserves the right to close player accounts at its discretion. However, it is essential that all financial obligations are settled before such actions are taken, specifically regarding the refund of the player's deposits. Could you please inform us when this process will be completed?
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Dragi makelios6,
Hteo sam da kontaktiram i obavestim vas da sam razgovarao sa predstavnikom NationalBet kazina i da sam prikupio neke informacije u vezi sa vašom situacijom. Čini se da su vaši prethodni zahtevi za povraćaj izgubljenih sredstava podneti bez čvrstog opravdanja. Kada odgovor kazina nije bio u skladu sa vašim očekivanjima, izgleda da ste pribegli pretnji povraćajem sredstava. Ovaj metod ne odražava poštenu praksu za koju se nadamo da ćemo videti i od kazina i od njegovih igrača. Ključno je shvatiti da učešće u kockanju na mreži dolazi sa inherentnim rizikom od gubitka novca, zar se ne slažete? Imajte na umu da nijedan kazino nije obavezan da vrati izgubljena sredstva samo zato što igrač to zahteva. Na kraju ste prihvatili uslove i odredbe kazina, kao što je ovde navedeno.
Kazino tim je doneo odluku da privremeno suspenduje vaš nalog kao meru predostrožnosti i takođe je otkazao sva povlačenja na čekanju kako bi se zaštitio od potencijalnih gubitaka u slučaju da odlučite da pokrenete povraćaj sredstava. Mogu da saosećam sa obrazloženjem kazino tima s obzirom na situaciju. Možete li da podelite svoja razmišljanja o tome kako biste želeli da rešite ovu žalbu na način koji je pogodan za obe uključene strane?
Dear makelios6,
I wanted to reach out and let you know that I've spoken with a representative from NationalBet Casino, and I've gathered some information regarding your situation. It seems that your previous requests for a refund on your lost funds were submitted without a solid justification. When the casino's response didn't align with your expectations, it appears you resorted to threatening them with chargebacks This method doesn't reflect the fair practices we hope to see from both the casino and its players. It's crucial to recognize that participating in online gambling comes with the inherent risk of losing money, wouldn't you agree? Please understand that no casino is obligated to return lost funds simply because a player requests it. You ultimately accepted the casino's terms and conditions, as outlined here.
The casino team has made the decision to temporarily suspend your account as a precautionary measure and has also canceled any pending withdrawals to safeguard against potential losses in the event you choose to initiate a chargeback. I can empathize with the casino team's reasoning given the situation. Could you share your thoughts on how you would like to address this complaint in a way that is suitable for both parties involved?
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Dragi Mihal, hvala na odgovoru.
Vremenski sled situacije je sledeći:
Položio sam 100 evra u kazinu da bih mogao da igram i odmah nakon depozita moj račun je zatvoren.
Nisam imao vremena da igram.
U ovom trenutku nema povlačenja na čekanju, samo stanje na računu od 100 evra koje dolazi sa mog depozita, a da ja nemam pristup svom računu.
Zatim sam tražio objašnjenje zašto je moj nalog zatvoren, a da nisam dobio nikakav odgovor.
Prilažem snimak ekrana.
Čekao sam odgovor koji nikada nije stigao.
Kasnije, i nakon što mi nisu odgovorili, obavestio sam kazino da ću, pošto su mi zadržali novac, nastaviti sa povraćajem sredstava ako mi ne otvore račun ili mi ne vrate novac.
Nedavno sam im poslao e-poštu u kojoj sam naveo da neću nastaviti sa povraćajem sredstava i zamolio ih da otvore moj nalog kako bih mogao da dobijem pristup da bih mogao da igram 100 evra.
Nema odgovora iz kazina.
Prilažem snimak ekrana.
Ovo je istina, dragi Mihal.
Dear Michal, thank you for the reply.
The time sequence of the situation is as follows:
I deposited 100 euros at the casino so I could play and immediately after the deposit my account was closed.
I didn't have time to play.
At this moment there are no pending withdrawals, only an account balance of 100 euros which comes from my deposit without me having access to my account.
I then asked for an explanation as to why my account was closed without receiving any response.
I am attaching the screenshot.
I waited for an answer that never came.
Later, and after they didn't respond, I informed the casino that because they had withheld my money, I would proceed with a chargeback if they didn't open my account or refund my money.
I recently sent them an email stating that I was not going to proceed with a chargeback and asking them to open my account so that I could gain access to be able to play the 100 euros.
No response from the casino.
I am attaching the screenshot.
This is the truth, dear Michal.
Αγαπητέ Μίχαλ ευχαριστώ για την απάντηση.
Η χρονική σειρά της κατάστασης έχει ως εξής
Κατέθεσα 100 ευρώ στο καζίνο για να μπορέσω να παίξω και αμέσως μετά την κατάθεση έκλεισε ο λογαριασμός μου.
Δεν πρόλαβα να παίξω.
Αυτήν την στιγμή δεν υπάρχουν εκκρεμείς αναλήψεις παρά μόνο υπόλοιπο λογαριασμού 100 ευρώ πού προέρχεται από την κατάθεση μου χωρίς εγώ να έχω πρόσβαση στον λογαριασμό μου.
Στην συνέχεια ζήτησα εξηγήσεις γιατί έκλεισε ο λογαριασμός μου χωρίς να λαμβάνω καμία απάντηση.
Σας επισυνάπτω το στιγμιότυπο
Ανέμενα για απάντηση που δεν ήρθε ποτέ.
Αργότερα και αφού δεν μου απαντούσαν ενημέρωσα το καζίνο ότι επειδή μου έχουν κατακρατήσει τα χρήματα μου θα προχωρήσω σε αντίστροφη χρέωση εάν δεν μου ανοίξουν τον λογαριασμό μου η δεν μου επιστρέψουν τα χρήματα μου.
Πρόσφατα τους έστειλα και email αναφέροντας ότι δεν πρόκειται να προχωρήσω σε αντίστροφη χρέωση και τους ζητούσα να ανοίξουν τον λογαριασμό μου ώστε να αποκτήσω πρόσβαση για να μπορέσω να παίξω τα 100 ευρώ.
Καμία απάντηση από το καζίνο.
Σας επισυνάπτω το στιγμιότυπο
Αυτή είναι η αλήθεια αγαπητέ μιχαλ
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Zdravo makelios6,
Želeli bi da vas obavestimo da zbog činjenice da je Michal, vaš rešavalac prigovora, na odmoru, moramo da produžimo vreme rešavanja za dodatnih 7 dana. Pošto Michal ima najviše informacija oko vaše situacije i ima direktnu komunikaciju sa kazinom, smatramo da je ovo produženje opravdano. Vaše strpljenje je će se isplatiti i uveravamo vas da će vas Michal kontaktirati što pre.
Hvala na razumevanju i strpljenju.
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Hello makelios6,
We would like to update you that due to Michal, your designated resolver, being on vacation, we have opted to extend the timeline by an additional 7 days. Since Michal has an in-depth understanding of your situation and maintains direct communication with the casino, we find this extension justified. Your patience is sincerely appreciated, and I assure you that Michal will contact you at the earliest opportunity.
Thank you for your understanding and ongoing patience.
Best regards, Casino Guru
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Mnogo puta smo objašnjavali da nam korisnik preti povraćajem. Obavestili smo ga zbog ovih neopravdanih pretnji, sredstva će biti na čekanju 6 meseci od poslednjeg depozita. Ako u ovom periodu ne dobije povraćaj sredstava, on će moći da povuče sredstva
We have explained many times that the user threaten us with chargeback. We informed him due these unjustified threats, funds will be on hold for 6 months from last deposit. If no chargeback received within this period he will be able to withdraw the funds
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Dragi nacionalni kazino za klađenje
Priznajete da ste zadržali moj novac koji dolazi od depozita, a ne od dobiti.
Više puta sam vam rekao da neću nastaviti sa povraćajem sredstava.
Tražim da mi se otvori nalog da bih mogao da igram.
Ako se to ne dogodi, želeo bih svoj novac nazad.
Dear national bet casino
You admit that you have withheld my money which comes from a deposit and not from profits.
I have repeatedly stated to you that I will not proceed with a chargeback.
I am requesting that my account be opened so that I can play.
If this does not happen I would like my money back.
Αγαπητό καζίνο national bet
Ομολογειτε ότι έχετε παρακρατήσει τα χρήματα μου τα οποία προέρχονται από κατάθεση και όχι από κέρδη.
Σας έχω δηλώσει επανειλημμένα ότι δεν πρόκειται να προχωρήσω σε αντίστροφη χρέωση.
Ζητάω να ανοίξει ο λογαριασμός μου ώστε να μπορέσω να παίξω.
Εάν δεν συμβεί αυτό επιθυμώ την επιστροφή των χρημάτων μου.
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Dragi makelios6,
Dobio sam dodatne dokaze iz kazina koji su u suprotnosti sa vašim prethodnim vremenskim redosledom situacije. Molimo vas da mi prosledite celu komunikaciju koju ste imali sa nacionalnim timom za podršku kladionicama na michal.k@casino.guru
Dear makelios6,
I have received additional evidence from the casino that contradicts your previous time sequence of the situation. Please forward me the whole communication you had with National bet support team at michal.k@casino.guru
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Dragi Michael
Izjavio sam i kazinu i vama da neću nastaviti sa povraćajem sredstava.
Želim da otvorim svoj nalog da bih mogao da se kladim.
Jednostavno i jasno
Dear Michael
I have stated to both the casino and you that I will not proceed with a chargeback.
I would like to open my account so I can place bets.
Simply and clearly
Αγαπητέ michal
Έχω δηλώσει και προς το καζίνο και προς τα εσάς ότι δεν πρόκειται να προχωρήσω σε αντίστροφη χρέωση.
Επιθυμώ το άνοιγμα του λογαριασμού μου ώστε να μπορέσω να τα στοιχηματίσω.
Απλά και ξεκάθαρα
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Račun se može ponovo otvoriti. Depozit će biti onemogućen i sredstva se mogu povući 6 meseci nakon poslednjeg depozita
The account can be reopened. Deposit will be disabled and funds can be withdrawn 6 months after last deposit
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Hvala vam na vašem konstruktivnom dijalogu NationalBet Casino. Drago mi je da smo uspeli da nađemo razuman konsenzus.
Dragi makelios6,
Sa zadovoljstvom vas obaveštavamo da je vaš nalog ponovo otvoren i da sada možete da koristite 100 € dostupnih na vašem kazinu saldu za igru. Međutim, imajte na umu da su dalji depoziti trenutno zabranjeni, a svi zahtevi za povlačenje biće odloženi do šestomesečnog perioda od kada je vaš poslednji depozit prošao. Ovu meru je primenio kazino tim kako bi se zaštitio od potencijalnih gubitaka ako odlučite da pokrenete povraćaj sredstava. Iako cenim vaše uveravanje da nećete tražiti povraćaj sredstava, razumljivo je da kazino tim postupa oprezno u ovom slučaju kako bi ublažio sve rizike.
Shvatam da ovo možda nije najpovoljnije rešenje za vašu žalbu, ali s obzirom na okolnosti, čini se da je to najprikladniji ishod za obe uključene strane.
Thank you for your constructive dialog NationalBet Casino. I'm glad we could find a reasonable consensus.
Dear makelios6,
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I recognize that this may not be the most favourable resolution to your complaint, but given the circumstances, it appears to be the most appropriate outcome for both parties involved.
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Ok, hvala.
Ok, thank you.
Οκ ευχαριστώ
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Dragi makelios6,
Hvala vam na potvrdi i razumevanju. Verujem da je žalba obrađena na način koji je prihvatljiv za obe uključene strane. Možete li ljubazno potvrditi da li mogu da nastavim sa zatvaranjem ovog slučaja kao rešen?
Dear makelios6,
Thank you for your confirmation and understanding. I believe that the complaint has been handled in a manner that is acceptable to both parties involved. Could you kindly confirm whether I can proceed with closing this case as resolved?
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Da, to je rešeno.
Yes, it was resolved.
Ναι επιλυθηκε
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Dragi makelios6,
Hvala na potvrdi. Drago mi je da je naša intervencija pomogla da se situacija reši na razuman način. Označićemo žalbu kao „rešenu" u našem sistemu. Želimo da se zahvalimo obema stranama na saradnji. Ako ikada naiđete na probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom u budućnosti, slobodno se obratite našem Centru za rešavanje žalbi. Tu smo da pomognemo.
Kao što znate, mi ne naplaćujemo naše usluge, niti primamo napojnice. Međutim, bili bismo veoma zahvalni ako biste mogli da odvojite malo vremena i podelite svoje iskustvo sa našim uslugama na TrustpilotRate Casino Guru. Iskrena recenzija, zajedno sa svim predlozima za poboljšanje, bila bi od neprocenjive vrednosti. Vaše povratne informacije mogu pomoći drugima koji možda razmišljaju da nas kontaktiraju radi pomoći u vezi sa problemima vezanim za onlajn kazino.
Hvala unapred na izdvojenom vremenu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Michal
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Dear makelios6,
Thank you for the confirmation. I'm glad that our intervention helped to resolve the situation in a reasonable manner. We'll go ahead and mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. We would like to thank both parties for their cooperation. If you ever encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future, please feel free to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Center. We're here to help.
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