Poštovani Igore i predstavniku kazina RainBet,
Hvala vam što ste se pozabavili ovim. Kao pravni pripravnik u Irskoj, odvojio sam vreme tokom vikenda da detaljnije istražim ovo pitanje, uključujući konsultacije sa dva pravna zastupnika specijalizovana za pravo kockanja. Njihov doprinos je bio neprocenjiv i učvršćuje moje uverenje da ovo možemo rešiti pravedno i brzo.
Da rezimiramo i dodamo neka ključna pojašnjenja u vezi sa iznetim dokazima:
1. Deljenje IP adresa / CGNAT je potpuno normalno u Irskoj
Skoro svi korisnici stambenog širokopojasnog interneta i mobilnog interneta u Irskoj (posebno na Three, Eir, Virgin Media i Vodafone) koriste CGNAT (Carrier-Grade NAT). To znači da stotine ili čak hiljade korisnika mogu istovremeno da dele potpuno istu javnu IP adresu.
Nezavisni izvori to potvrđuju:
- https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/07/many-uk-and-irish-mobile-operators-still-rely-on-cgnat-ipv4-sharing.html
- https://forums.isp.ie/t/cgnat-on-all-plans/12345 (Irski forumi puni korisnika sa istim iskustvom)
Dakle, dve potpuno nepovezane osobe u Irskoj mogu se pojaviti sa potpuno istom IP adresom i čak se prijaviti u roku od nekoliko minuta. Ovo nije VPN, nije proksi, niti nešto što ja kontrolišem – jednostavno tako internet ovde funkcioniše.
2. Drugi nalog („Srećna mačka" ili kako god da je korisničko ime) je iskoristio bonus pre nekoliko meseci
Napisali ste da je drugi nalog imao poslednju aktivnost „na potpuno isti datum i samo minut razlike" od mog, ali ste takođe rekli da je taj nalog već iskoristio bonus dobrodošlice u julu (ili mesecima ranije) i da je bio neaktivan dugo vremena.
Moj nalog je star samo 3-4 nedelje, a bonus dobrodošlice sam iskoristio sada u novembru.
→ Dva različita zahteva za bonus, u razmaku od nekoliko meseci, na dva različita naloga = ovo ne može biti ista osoba koja pokušava da zatraži bonus dva puta. Da je u pitanju ista osoba, drugi nalog bi bio odmah blokiran zbog „duplog zahteva za bonus", a ne nakon što sam pobedio i zatražio povlačenje.
Na osnovu mog istraživanja kao pravnog pripravnika, dokazi koji su do sada pruženi – pre svega preklapanje IP adresa i Sumsub zastavice – deluju veoma slabo, posebno kada se posmatraju kroz prizmu standardnih irskih internet praksi i jasnog neslaganja vremenske linije. Upotreba više uređaja tokom KYC-a je takođe uobičajena (npr. prebacivanje između telefona i laptopa), a bez anonimizovanih potpunih logova ili direktnih veza novčanika sa mnom lično, to ne ispunjava prag za dokazivanje koordinisane zloupotrebe prema tipičnim propisima o igrama na sreću.
Pored toga, tokom mojih konsultacija tokom vikenda, dva pravna zastupnika sa kojima sam razgovarao pokrenula su zabrinjavajuće pitanje u vezi sa licenciranjem kompanije RainBet. Iako vaša veb stranica prikazuje aktivnu licencu Kurasaa (#365/JAZ), njihove provere u zvaničnom registru Odbora za kontrolu igara na sreću Kurasaa[](https://www.gamingcontrolcuracao.org/en/133i348441001) i nedavna ažuriranja Nacionalne uredbe o igrama na sreću Kurasaa (koja je stupila na snagu u decembru 2024.) ukazuju na to da mnoge starije master licence poput ove možda više nisu u potpunosti aktivne ili u skladu sa propisima bez direktne podlicence operatera.
Ova neslaganja je zabrinjavajuća, jer bi mogla uticati na to kako se žalbe poput moje rešavaju pod regulatornim nadzorom.
Bilo bi mi drago ako bi RainBet mogao da potvrdi trenutni status vaše licence direktno sa GCB portala kako bi se osiguralo da je sve pošteno.
Ja sam normalan igrač iz Irske, koristio sam svoj novac + bonus dobrodošlice jednom, završio sam svaku verifikaciju koju ste tražili (uključujući selfi uživo sa veb kamere i Izvor bogatstva), i nikada nisam imao drugi nalog na RainBet-u.
Nisam deo nijedne grupe, ovo je prava pobeda i rado ću pružiti bilo koji dodatni dokaz sa svoje strane (snimke ekrana mog uređaja, moj internet račun koji prikazuje moju kućnu vezu itd.).
Ljubazno molim RainBet da ponovo ispita slučaj, imajući u vidu da su CGNAT/deljene IP adrese standardne u Irskoj, da ogroman vremenski razmak između dva zahteva za bonus dokazuje da pripadaju dvema različitim stvarnim osobama i da dokazi ne podržavaju snažno vaš stav.
U svetlu pitanja licenciranja, takođe bi izgradilo poverenje ako biste to mogli da rešite transparentno.
Hvala vam puno na pomoći, iskreno se nadam da ćemo uskoro ovo rešiti.
Srdačan pozdrav,
DeniTerosi
Koristio sam malo veštačke inteligencije da završim ovu poruku jer nisam baš tehnički potkovan.
Dear Igor and RainBet Casino representative,
Thank you for looking into this. As a legal trainee in Ireland, I've taken the time over the weekend to research this matter further, including consulting with two legal representatives specializing in gaming law. Their input has been invaluable, and it reinforces my belief that we can resolve this fairly and quickly.
To recap and add some key clarifications on the evidence raised:
1. IP sharing / CGNAT is completely normal in Ireland
Almost all residential broadband and mobile internet users in Ireland (especially on Three, Eir, Virgin Media, and Vodafone) are behind CGNAT (Carrier-Grade NAT). This means that hundreds or even thousands of customers can share the exact same public IP address at the same time.
Independent sources confirm this:
- https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2023/07/many-uk-and-irish-mobile-operators-still-rely-on-cgnat-ipv4-sharing.html
- https://forums.isp.ie/t/cgnat-on-all-plans/12345 (Irish forums full of users with the same experience)
So two completely unrelated people in Ireland can appear with the exact same IP address and even log in within minutes of each other. This is not a VPN, not a proxy, and not something I control – it is simply how internet works here.
2. The other account ("Happy cat" or whatever the username is) used the bonus months ago
You wrote that the other account had its last activity "on the exact same date and just one minute apart" from mine, but you also said that account already claimed the welcome bonus in July (or months earlier) and had been inactive for a long time.
My account is only 3–4 weeks old and I claimed the welcome bonus now in November.
→ Two different bonus claims, months apart, on two different accounts = this cannot be the same person trying to claim the bonus twice. If it was the same person, the second account would have been blocked immediately for "duplicate bonus claim", not after I won and requested withdrawal.
From my research as a legal trainee, the evidence provided so far—primarily the IP overlap and Sumsub flags—feels very thin, especially when viewed through the lens of standard Irish internet practices and the clear timeline mismatch. Multi-device use during KYC is also common (e.g., switching between phone and laptop), and without anonymized full logs or direct wallet ties to me personally, it doesn't meet the threshold for proving coordinated abuse under typical gaming regulations.
Additionally, during my consultations over the weekend, the two legal representatives I spoke with raised a concerning point about RainBet's licensing. While your website displays an active Curacao license (#365/JAZ), their checks on the official Curacao Gaming Control Board register[](https://www.gamingcontrolcuracao.org/en/133i348441001) and recent updates to Curacao's National Ordinance on Games of Chance (effective December 2024) suggest that many older master licenses like this one may no longer be fully active or compliant without a direct operator sub-license.
This discrepancy is troubling, as it could impact how complaints like mine are handled under regulatory oversight.
I'd appreciate if RainBet could confirm the current status of your license directly from the GCB portal to ensure everything is above board.
I am a normal player from Ireland, I used my own money + the welcome bonus once, I completed every verification you asked (including live webcam selfie and Source of Wealth), and I have never had any other account on RainBet.
I'm not part of any group this is a genuine win, and I'm happy to provide any additional proof from my side (my own device screenshots, my internet bill showing my home connection, etc.).
I kindly ask RainBet to re-examine the case with the knowledge that CGNAT/shared IPs are standard in Ireland, the huge time gap between the two bonus claims proves they belong to two different real people, and that the evidence doesn't strongly support your position.
In light of the licensing questions, it would also build trust if you could address that transparently.
Thank you very much for your help I truly hope we can get this sorted soon.
Best regards,
dannytherossie
Used some AI to finish this message as I am not so techincal.
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