Dragi Adame i kazino Sneč,
Hvala vam na odgovorima.
Kazino Sneč, pogrešno ste shvatili moj stav. Ne odbijam da platim porez. Odbijam da izgubim deo svog dobitka iz razloga koji nisu moja krivica. U ovoj sam poziciji jer niste poštovali sopstvene Uslove i odredbe o isplatama istim metodom, niti ste me obavestili o predstojećim promenama. Ponudili ste metod depozita i isplate Bitkoina, ja sam ga koristio, a vi ste uklonili tu opciju bez prethodne najave, dok ste moj kripto saldo ostavili u fiat novčaniku.
Molim vas, prestanite da selektivno navodite svoje uslove. Pozivate se na 7.6, a ignorišete 5.5, koji kaže:
5.5. Igrači treba da imaju na umu da isplate moraju biti izvršene na isti način kojim su uplatili novac.
Tvrdite da se 5.5 odnosi samo na metode koje su trenutno prikazane za dati novčanik, iako vaši Uslovi korišćenja ne sadrže to ograničenje. Ako možete da ignorišete sopstvene klauzule kad god vam odgovara, onda su vaši Uslovi efikasno irelevantni. Ili se Uslovi dosledno primenjuju, uključujući 5.5, ili bi trebalo jasno da kažete da ne nameravate da ih se pridržavate.
Ponovo, ne tražim od vas da platite moje poreske obaveze. Tražim od vas da nadoknadite dodatne troškove nastale vašim radnjama: ukidanjem isplata bitkoina bez prethodne najave, neostavljanjem mi mogućnosti da povučem novac pre promene i odbijanjem da poštujete klauzulu 5.5 za stanje finansirano putem bitkoina.
Adame, razumem da Casino Guru ne može da primora kazino da ponudi određeni način isplate, niti da poštuje sopstvene uslove i odredbe. Kazino ne može biti odgovoran za poreske propise Mađarske, i nikada nisam tvrdio drugačije. Međutim, kazino je odgovoran za stvaranje situacije koja pokreće te troškove za mene.
Molimo vas da izbegavate spekulacije da je ovo možda van kontrole kazina i direktno ih pitajte zašto su tada izvršili preradu, zašto igrači nisu obavešteni i koja je konkretna regulatorna promena zahtevala uklanjanje isplata Bitkoina za postojeća stanja finansirana Bitkoinom.
S obzirom na stav kazina Snatch, oni neće poštovati klauzulu 5.5 o isplatama istim metodom, neće isplaćivati u bilo kojoj drugoj kriptovaluti i neće nadoknaditi dodatne troškove koje bi nametnulo prisilno povlačenje fiat valute. Pod ovim uslovima ne mogu razumno da prihvatim povlačenje fiat valute, što me ostavlja nemogućim da povučem svoja sredstva.
Pošto nema više šta da se postigne, molimo vas da zatvorite žalbu kao nerešenu. Hvala vam, Adame i timu Casino Guru, što ste pokušali da posredujete u rešavanju ovog problema.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Manfred
Dear Adam and Snatch Casino,
Thank you for the responses.
Snatch Casino, you have misunderstood my position. I am not refusing to pay taxes. I am refusing to lose part of my winnings for reasons that are not my fault. I am in this position because you did not uphold your own Terms and Conditions on same-method withdrawals, nor did you notify me of the upcoming changes. You offered a Bitcoin deposit and withdrawal method, I used it, and you removed that option without notice while leaving my crypto-funded balance in a fiat wallet.
Please stop citing your Terms selectively. You refer to 7.6, yet you ignore 5.5, which states:
5.5. Players should note that withdrawals have to be made to the same method that you deposited with.
You claim that 5.5 applies only to methods currently shown for a given wallet, even though your T&C do not contain that limitation. If you can ignore your own clauses whenever convenient, then your Terms are effectively irrelevant. Either the Terms apply consistently, including 5.5, or you should say plainly that you do not intend to follow them.
Again, I am not asking you to pay my tax obligations. I am asking you to reimburse the extra costs created by your actions: removing Bitcoin withdrawals without notice, not leaving me the option to withdraw before the change, and refusing to honor clause 5.5 for a balance funded via Bitcoin.
Adam, I understand Casino Guru cannot force a casino to offer a specific withdrawal method, or to honor its own T&C for that matter. The casino cannot be held responsible for Hungary's tax rules, and I have never claimed otherwise. However, the casino is responsible for creating the situation that triggers those costs for me.
Please avoid speculating that this may be outside the casino's control and ask them directly why they performed the rework at that time, why players were not notified, and what specific regulatory change required removing Bitcoin withdrawals for existing Bitcoin-funded balances.
Given Snatch Casino's position, they will not honor clause 5.5 about same-method withdrawals, will not pay in any other cryptocurrency, and will not reimburse the additional costs that a forced fiat withdrawal would impose. Under these conditions I cannot reasonably accept a fiat withdrawal, which leaves me unable to withdraw my funds.
As there is nothing further to achieve, please close the complaint as unresolved. Thank you, Adam and the Casino Guru team, for attempting to mediate this issue.
Best regards,
Mannfred
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