Dragi Sven1053 , razumem tvoju frustraciju i slažem se da u idealnom svetu zahtevaš zatvaranje naloga iz bilo kog razloga, i to bude urađeno u roku od nekoliko sati. Kada sam počeo da se bavim žalbama na zatvaranje naloga i samoisključivanje, imao sam isti način razmišljanja kao i ti: Nema razloga da kazino odlaže zatvaranje naloga i to izgleda sumnjivo.
Međutim, nakon više od dve godine bavljenja takvim žalbama, morao sam da promenim svoje gledište, pošto sam video i drugu stranu ovoga. Kazina su svakodnevno zatrpana desetinama zahteva za zatvaranje naloga, neki čak ni ne navode razlog. Zatim, većina ovih igrača se vraća za par dana i zahteva da im se nalog ponovo otvori. Većina zahteva za zatvaranje naloga se šalje u žaru trenutka, nakon velikog gubitka, i kada se igrači smire ili dobiju platu na poslu, žele da se vrate i ponovo igraju. Neki čak koriste zatvaranje naloga kao polugu da nateraju VIP menadžere da isplate povrat novca i bonuse, uz provereno i istinito „dajte mi bonus ili mi zatvorite nalog". Viđeno je to stotinu puta.
Kao što možete da zamislite, ovo stvara ogroman pritisak na tim za podršku, da stalno zatvara i ponovo otvara naloge po hiru igrača, stoga danas razumem zašto neki kazina jednostavno ignorišu takve zahteve. Setite se šta sam pomenuo u prethodnom postu - ako niste zavisni, možete jednostavno da obrišete obeleživače stranice kazina i krenete dalje. Ništa vas ne tera da se vratite, stoga bi trebalo da bude od male važnosti da li je nalog otvoren ili ne.
Moranje eksplicitno pominjanje zavisnosti od kockanja ovde je bez presedana u bilo kom drugom kazinu i smatram da se graniči sa prevarom.
Prevara je prava reč. Mnogo igrača pokušava da učestvuje u takozvanom „besplatnom klađenju" i čak zloupotrebljavaju samoisključenje kako bi osigurali da dobiju ili da Kazino Guru posreduje u potpunom povraćaju njihovih depozita. Iako smo orijentisani na profesionalne igrače, nismo ni naivni i shvatamo da nisu svi igrači pošteni. Stoga smo kreirali skupove pravila i internih procedura koje smatramo poštenim prema igračima i kazinima. Možete ih pogledati ovde, jedan Kodeks fer kockanja za igrače , a drugi Kodeks fer kockanja za kazina .
Svi naši principi su javno poznati i trudimo se da budemo što otvoreniji i transparentniji - osim određenih internih procedura kako bismo osigurali da ih ne zloupotrebljavaju nepošteni igrači ili kazina. Za sada ovaj sistem funkcioniše za nas i trudimo se da postignemo pravedan ishod. Ne kažem da je ovaj proces savršen, jer uvek postoje stvari koje treba poboljšati (i to periodično radimo), ali do sada se ovo pokazalo kao najpravedniji model koji smo do sada razvili.
Što se tiče presedana - to je ustanovljeno pre mnogo godina i uvek zahtevamo od igrača da urade prvi (neki kažu i najteži) korak - priznaju da imaju problem sa kockanjem. U tome nema ništa prevarno. Na isti način na koji biste se našli u nevolji zbog uskraćivanja informacija na sudu ili biste mogli biti povređeni od strane lekara kome ne otkrijete upotrebu određenih lekova, na isti način Kazino Guru ne može da vam pomogne ako ne obavestite kazino da imate problem sa kockanjem.
Ako imate još pitanja, rado ću vam odgovoriti.
Dear Sven1053, I understand your frustration and agree, that in the perfect world you request an account closure for whatever reason, and within few hours it is done. When I started dealing with account closure and self-exclusion complaints, I had the same mindset as you do: There is no reason for the casino to delay account closure and it looks suspicious.
However, after over two years of dealing with such complaints, I had to change my viewpoint, since I have seen the other side of this. Casinos gets swamped with dozens of account closure requests daily, some not even stating the reason. Then, most of these players come back in a couple of days and demand their account to be reopened. Most of the account closures are sent in the heat of the moment, after a heavy loss, and once the players cool down or get paid at work, they want to come back and play again. Some even use the account closure as a leverage to bully the VIP managers into cashbacks and bonuses, with the tried and true "give me a bonus or else close my account". Seen it hundred times over.
As you can imagine, this creates enormous strain on the support team, to constantly keep closing and reopening accounts on a player's whim, therefore nowadays I understand why some casinos simply ignore such requests. Remember what I mentioned in my previous post - if you are not addicted, you can simply delete the casino page bookmark and move on. Nothing is forcing you to come back, therefore whether the account is open or not, should be of little importance.
Having to explicitly mention gambling addiction here is unprecedented at any other casino, and I find it bordering on fraud.
Fraud is the right word. There are many players trying to participate in so-called "free betting" and even misuse self-exclusion to ensure they either get a win or Casino Guru mediates a full refund of their deposits. While we are pro-player oriented, we are also not naïve and realise not all players are honest. Hence we created sets of rules and internal procedures that we consider fair towards both - players and casinos. You can check them here, one Fair Gambling Codex for players, the other Fair Gambling Codex for casinos.
All our principles are public knowledge, and we are trying to be as open as transparent as possible - except certain internal procedures to ensure those does not get abused by unfair players or casinos. So far this system works for us, and we do our best to mediate a fair outcome. I am not saying this process is perfect, as there are always things to improve (and we do that periodically), but so far this proved to be the most fair model we developed yet.
As for the precedense - that has been established years ago and we always require players to do the first (some say the hardest) step - admit they have a gambling problem. There is nothing fraudulent about it. Same way you would get in trouble for withholding information in court, or could get injured by a doctor to whom you do not disclose usage of certain medication, same way Casino Guru is unable to help if you do not inform the casino about having a gambling problem.
If you have any more questions, I am more than happy to answer them.
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