Zdravo,
Želeo bih da podnesem žalbu u vezi sa SpinBetter-om jer trenutno ne mogu da podignem svoje legitimne dobitke, uprkos tome što sam pratio uputstva njihove korisničke podrške.
Uplatio sam 40 evra preko Netelera i osvojio približno 200 evra.
Već sam koristio Neteller sa SpinBetter-om i uspešno sam vršio i depozite i isplate putem Neteller-a bez ikakvih problema.
Međutim, kada sam ovog puta pokušao da podignem svoj dobitak, Neteler više nije bio dostupan kao metod podizanja.
Kontaktirao sam korisničku podršku SpinBetter-a i pitao kako treba da podignem svoj novac.
Njihova podrška mi je dala instrukcije da koristim drugi način plaćanja: uplatim depozit, završim potrebno klađenje, verifikujem novi način plaćanja, a zatim zatražim isplatu.
Tačno sam pratio njihova uputstva.
Jedina odgovarajuća alternativa koja mi je bila dostupna bila je kriptovaluta, pa sam uplatio 5 evra u kriptovalutu, završio potrebno klađenje i verifikovao način plaćanja.
Nakon što sam uradio sve što su tražili, pokušao sam da se povučem.
Moje povlačenje je odbijeno iz sledećeg razloga:
„Povlačenje novca je moguće samo korišćenjem istih podataka koji su korišćeni za uplatu. Ako uplaćujete novac putem različitih načina plaćanja, trebalo bi da podignete novac srazmerno iznosu koji ste uplatili putem svakog načina plaćanja."
Onda sam pokušao da podignem samo 30 evra, i čak je i ovo podizanje odbijeno iz istog razloga.
Ovo stvara nemoguću situaciju.
Većina mojih depozita je izvršena putem Netelera, ali Neteler više nije dostupan za isplate. Istovremeno, SpinBeter mi ne dozvoljava da povučem svoj novac putem kriptovalute jer njihov sistem zahteva da isplate budu proporcionalne depozitima izvršenim putem svakog načina plaćanja.
Više puta sam objašnjavao ovu kontradikciju korisničkoj službi i više puta postavljao jedno veoma jednostavno pitanje:
Kako mogu da podignem svoj trenutni saldo?
Umesto da pruži praktično rešenje, podrška je stalno ponavljala istu politiku proporcionalnog povlačenja.
U jednom trenutku, nakon što sam nastavio da pitam kako treba da podignem svoja sredstva, agent za podršku je čak pretio da će me blokirati iz ćaskanja uživo zbog „spama".
Kasnije, drugi agent za podršku je predložio da uplatim još novca koristeći alternativni način plaćanja.
Već sam uplatio dodatni depozit, posebno zato što me je njihova podrška tako uputila. Očigledno nisam spreman da nastavim da uplaćujem sve više i više novca samo da bih dobio pristup sredstvima koja su već na mom računu.
Onda sam stvar dodatno eskalirao.
SpinBetter mi je sada pismeno potvrdio da:
Trenutno su u toku tehnički radovi, što privremeno utiče na korišćenje ovog načina plaćanja.
Stoga je sam kazino potvrdio da Neteler nije dostupan zbog tehničkog problema.
Uprkos tome, njihovo predloženo rešenje je i dalje korišćenje alternativnog načina plaćanja.
Ali ja sam već uradio upravo to, prateći njihova uputstva, a njihov sopstveni proporcionalni sistem povlačenja sada me sprečava da povučem novac putem te alternativne metode.
Dakle, situacija je trenutno sledeća:
- Uplatio sam 40 evra preko Netelera.
- Osvojio sam oko 200 evra.
- Neteler je postao nedostupan za isplatu zbog tehničkih problema koje je potvrdio SpinBetter.
- SpinBetter mi je naložio da uplatim depozit koristeći drugi način plaćanja.
- Uplatio sam 5 evra putem kriptovalute i završio potrebno klađenje.
- Moje povlačenje je tada odbijeno zbog njihovog pravila proporcionalnog povlačenja.
- Ne mogu ni da podignem 30 evra.
Korisnička podrška mi je predložila da uplatim još jedan depozit.
Kada sam više puta pitao kako mogu da podignem svoj novac, pretili su mi da će mi biti blokiran pristup ćaskanju uživo.
SpinBetter još uvek nije pružio praktičan metod za povlačenje mog trenutnog stanja.
Ne odbijam verifikaciju, zahteve za klađenje ili razumne procedure za sprečavanje pranja novca. Pratio/la sam uputstva kazina.
Problem je što mi ta uputstva nisu pružila nikakav način da zapravo povučem svoja sredstva.
Takođe sam kontaktirao odeljenje za plaćanje kompanije SpinBetter i prosledio stvar njihovom organu za licenciranje.
Stoga bih bio zahvalan na pomoći kompanije Casino Guru da postavi SpinBetter-u jedno jednostavno pitanje:
Kako mogu da podignem ceo postojeći saldo bez dodatnih uplata?
Verujem da je nerazumno zahtevati od igrača da nastavi da uplaćuje dodatni novac jer je originalni metod povlačenja kazina privremeno nedostupan, a njegov sopstveni sistem sprečava povlačenje putem alternativnog metoda koji je njegova podrška naložila igraču da koristi.
Mogu da pružim kompletnu istoriju ćaskanja, poruke o odbijanju povlačenja, imejlove od SpinBetter-a koji potvrđuju tehnički problem sa Neteller-om i sve druge potrebne dokaze.
Hvala vam.
Hello,
I would like to file a complaint regarding SpinBetter because I am currently unable to withdraw my legitimate winnings, despite following the instructions provided by their customer support.
I deposited €40 via Neteller and won approximately €200.
I had used Neteller with SpinBetter before and had successfully made both deposits and withdrawals through Neteller without any problems.
However, when I tried to withdraw my winnings this time, Neteller was no longer available as a withdrawal method.
I contacted SpinBetter customer support and asked how I was supposed to withdraw my money.
Their support instructed me to use another payment method: make a deposit with it, complete the required wagering, verify the new payment method, and then request a withdrawal.
I followed their instructions exactly.
The only suitable alternative available to me was cryptocurrency, so I made a €5 crypto deposit, completed the required wagering and verified the payment method.
After doing everything they asked, I tried to withdraw.
My withdrawal was rejected with the following reason:
"Withdrawals are only possible using the same details that were used to make a deposit. If you deposit money via different payment methods, you should withdraw money in proportion to the amount you have deposited via each payment method."
I then tried withdrawing only €30, and even this withdrawal was rejected for the same reason.
This creates an impossible situation.
The majority of my deposits were made via Neteller, but Neteller is no longer available for withdrawals. At the same time, SpinBetter does not allow me to withdraw my balance via cryptocurrency because their system requires withdrawals to be proportional to deposits made through each payment method.
I repeatedly explained this contradiction to customer support and repeatedly asked one very simple question:
How can I withdraw my current balance?
Instead of providing a practical solution, support kept repeating the same proportional withdrawal policy.
At one point, after I continued asking how I was supposed to withdraw my funds, a support agent even threatened to block me from Live Chat for "spamming."
Later, another support agent suggested that I should deposit more money using the alternative payment method.
I had already made an additional deposit specifically because their support instructed me to do so. I am obviously not willing to continue depositing more and more money simply to gain access to funds that are already in my account.
I then escalated the matter further.
SpinBetter has now confirmed to me in writing that:
"technical work is currently underway, which is temporarily affecting the use of this payment method."
Therefore, the casino itself has confirmed that Neteller is unavailable because of a technical issue.
Despite this, their proposed solution is still to use an alternative payment method.
But I have already done exactly that, following their instructions, and their own proportional withdrawal system now prevents me from withdrawing through that alternative method.
So the situation is currently:
- I deposited €40 via Neteller.
- I won approximately €200.
- Neteller became unavailable for withdrawals due to technical work confirmed by SpinBetter.
- SpinBetter instructed me to deposit using another payment method.
- I deposited €5 via cryptocurrency and completed the required wagering.
- My withdrawal was then rejected because of their proportional withdrawal rule.
- I cannot even withdraw €30.
Support suggested that I make yet another deposit.
When I repeatedly asked how I could withdraw my money, I was threatened with being blocked from Live Chat.
SpinBetter still has not provided a practical method for withdrawing my current balance.
I am not refusing verification, wagering requirements, or reasonable AML procedures. I have followed the casino's instructions.
The problem is that those instructions have not provided me with any way to actually withdraw my funds.
I have also contacted SpinBetter's payment department and have escalated the matter to their licensing authority.
I would therefore appreciate Casino Guru's assistance in asking SpinBetter one simple question:
How can I withdraw my full existing balance without making any further deposits?
I believe it is unreasonable to require a player to continue depositing additional money because the casino's original withdrawal method is temporarily unavailable and its own system prevents withdrawal through the alternative method that its support instructed the player to use.
I can provide the complete chat history, withdrawal rejection messages, emails from SpinBetter confirming the Neteller technical issue, and any other evidence required.
Thank you.
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