The player from France, then using a Belgian VPN, disputed the confiscation of €17,121.35 from his Stakes Casino account, claiming it was unjustified since two disputed rounds on a restricted game had resulted in €0 winnings. He requested clarification on the bonus terms used for the confiscation, as he had previously received a €2,000 payment before this action. The casino made an exception; his winnings were not cancelled, and withdrawals were resumed. We closed the complaint as resolved following the player's confirmation.
Igrač iz Francuske, koji je tada koristio belgijski VPN, osporio je konfiskaciju 17.121,35 evra sa svog Stakes Casino naloga, tvrdeći da je to bilo neopravdano jer su dve sporne runde u ograničenoj igri rezultirale dobicima od 0 evra. Zatražio je pojašnjenje o uslovima bonusa koji su korišćeni za konfiskaciju, jer je prethodno primio isplatu od 2.000 evra pre ove akcije. Kazino je napravio izuzetak; njegovi dobici nisu otkazani, a isplate su nastavljene. Zatvorili smo žalbu kao rešenu nakon igračeve potvrde.
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Osporavam konfiskaciju 17.121,35 evra sa mog Stakes Casino naloga.
Kompanija Stakes tvrdi da sam prekršio uslove bonusa igrajući ograničenu igru, Legacy of Egypt. Međutim, dve sporne runde u ovoj igri su rezultirale dobicima od 0 evra.
Upozorenje koje se prikazuje za ograničene igre navodi da dobici ostvareni iz ograničene igre mogu biti poništeni. U mom slučaju, nije bilo dobitaka iz ove dve runde. Ipak, Stejks je konfiskovao ceo preostali iznos od 17.121,35 evra.
Zamolio sam Stejks da mi dostave konkretnu klauzulu kojom se navodi da samo klađenje na ograničenu igru, čak i kada ta opklada ne generiše dobitke, omogućava im da konfiskuju sve dobitke i ceo preostali iznos. Do sada nisam dobio takvu konkretnu klauzulu.
Takođe sam primio isplatu/isplatu od 2.000 evra od Stejksa pre nego što je preostali iznos konfiskovan.
Molim Casino Guru da pregleda istoriju igranja, upozorenje o ograničenim igrama i važeće uslove bonusa, i da utvrdi da li je konfiskacija celokupnog iznosa od 17.121,35 evra opravdana i srazmerna.
Mogu da obezbedim snimke ekrana istorije igre, upozorenja, uslova bonusa, isplate od 2.000 evra i moje prepiske sa kazinom.
Važno: Živim u Francuskoj. Kazino Guru je blokiran sa francuske veze, tako da koristim belgijski VPN server za pristup ovom obrascu za žalbe. Zbog toga obrazac automatski prikazuje Belgiju. Moja stvarna zemlja prebivališta je Francuska.
am disputing the confiscation of €17,121.35 from my Stakes Casino account.
Stakes claims that I breached bonus terms by playing a restricted game, Legacy of Egypt. However, the two disputed rounds on this game resulted in €0 winnings.
The warning displayed for restricted games states that winnings obtained from a restricted game may be voided. In my case, there were no winnings from these two rounds. Nevertheless, Stakes confiscated the entire remaining balance of €17,121.35.
I have asked Stakes to provide the specific term stating that simply placing a bet on a restricted game, even when that bet generates no winnings, allows them to confiscate all winnings and the entire remaining balance. So far, I have not received such a specific clause.
I also received a €2,000 withdrawal/payment from Stakes before the remaining balance was confiscated.
I am asking Casino Guru to review the gaming history, the restricted-game warning and the applicable bonus terms, and to determine whether confiscating the entire €17,121.35 balance is justified and proportionate.
I can provide screenshots of the game history, the warning, the bonus terms, the €2,000 payment and my correspondence with the casino.
Important: I live in France. Casino Guru is blocked from a French connection, so I am using a Belgian VPN server to access this complaint form. This is why the form automatically displays Belgium. My actual country of residence is France.
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Zdravo,
Hvala vam puno što ste poslali žalbu. Žao mi je što ste imali negativno iskustvo sa Stakes Casino-om.
Dozvolite mi da vam postavim nekoliko pitanja kako bih bolje razumeo situaciju.
Možete li, molim vas, objasniti zašto ste pokrenuli i igrali igre sa ograničenim ograničenjima uprkos jasnom iskačućem prozoru u kojem je zabranjeno igranje sa bonus sredstvima?
Da li je upozorenje bilo prisutno za igru „Nasleđe Egipta"?
Da li ste postigli svoje trenutno stanje uz pomoć bonusa?
Možete li, molim vas, podeliti sa mnom vašu komunikaciju sa kazinom u vezi sa optužbama protiv vas ili razlozima za oduzimanje vašeg dobitka? Pošaljite imejlove ili transkripte ćaskanja na moju imejl adresu tomas@casino.guru ili postavite snimke ekrana ovde
Unapred vam se mnogo zahvaljujem na odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tomas
Hello,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about your negative experience with Stakes Casino.
Please allow me to ask you a few questions so I can better understand the situation.
Could you please explain why you launched and played restricted games despite the clear popup they are forbidden to play with bonus funds?
Was the warning present for the 'Legacy of Egypt' game?
Did you achieve your current balance with the help of a bonus?
Could you please share with me your communication with the casino regarding the accusations made against you, or the reasons for confiscating your winnings? Send emails or chat transcripts to my email at tomas@casino.guru, or post screenshots here
Thank you very much in advance for your reply.
Best regards,
Tomas
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Zdravo Tomaše,
Hvala vam što ste pregledali moju žalbu. Želeo bih da odgovorim na vaša pitanja što je moguće jasnije i preciznije, a u prilogu vam šaljem i snimke ekrana koji to prate.
1. Zašto sam igrao Legacy of Egypt uprkos upozorenju?
Potvrđujem da sam ušao u igru Legacy of Egypt dok je bonus bio aktivan. Međutim, ovo nije bio pokušaj da se zaobiđu pravila bonusa ili namerno generišu dobici iz ograničene igre.
Moja istorija igara pokazuje tačno šta se dogodilo: postavio sam samo dve opklade od 4,50 evra na Legacy of Egypt, i obe su rezultirale dobitkom od 0 evra. Zatim sam odmah napustio igru.
Ovo je posebno važno jer samo upozorenje navodi da „dobici koji potiču iz ove igre mogu biti otkazani". U mom slučaju, uopšte nije bilo dobitaka koji potiču iz Legacy of Egypt.
2. Da li je upozorenje prikazano na knjizi „Nasleđe Egipta"?
Da, upozorenje je prikazano.
Međutim, važan deo moje žalbe je to što se isto upozorenje o ograničenoj igri prikazivalo i prilikom otvaranja 5 Lions Megaways, iako mi je podrška kazina posebno potvrdila da mi je dozvoljeno da igram 5 Lions Megaways sa svojim povratom novca/bonusom sve dok se ne radi o ograničenoj igri.
Prilažem oba snimka ekrana: upozorenje prikazano na Legacy of Egypt i isto upozorenje prikazano na 5 Lions Megaways, zajedno sa razgovorom sa podrškom koji potvrđuje da mogu da igram 5 Lions Megaways.
Zbog toga je upozorenje bilo zbunjujuće kao pokazatelj da li je određena igra zapravo zabranjena.
3. Da li je moj trenutni saldo postignut uz pomoć bonusa?
Želim da budem potpuno transparentan po ovom pitanju.
Moj saldo je prvobitno dostigao približno 5.000 evra nakon bonus igre/konverzije. U toj fazi, saldo je konvertovano/prikazano kao stanje pravog novca i postalo je moguće isplatiti.
Od tog trenutka pa nadalje, nastavio sam da igram sa stanjem pravog novca i znatno ga povećao. Isplate su takođe bile prihvaćene i najmanje dva bankovna isplaćivanja od 1.000 evra su prikazana kao obrađena u istoriji mog naloga.
Stoga, ne tvrdim da bonus nije imao apsolutno nikakve veze sa ranijim stanjem od 5.000 evra. Moja poenta je da je, kada se faza bonusa završila i sredstva postala stvarna i moguća za isplatu, naknadno stanje generisano daljom igrom za pravi novac.
Najvažnije je da dve opklade na „Nasleđe Egipta" na koje se kazino sada oslanja nisu generisale dobitak od 0 evra.
4. U vezi sa opravdanjem kazina za konfiskaciju preostalog novca
Dostavljam relevantnu komunikaciju i dokaze koji su mi dostupni.
Moja briga je srazmernost i ugovorna osnova za konfiskaciju celokupnog preostalog iznosa. Dve sporne opklade na „Nasleđe Egipta" bile su po 4,50 evra i nisu donele dobitak od 0 evra.
Stoga s poštovanjem molim kazino da definiše precizan termin koji dozvoljava konfiskaciju celokupnog stanja i dobitaka ostvarenih u drugim igrama, umesto jednostavnog poništavanja dobitaka ostvarenih iz ograničene igre — posebno kada sama ograničena igra nije generisala dobitke.
Ne pokušavam da sakrijem činjenicu da sam ušao u igru Legacy of Egypt. U potpunosti priznajem te dve opklade. Samo tražim da se stvarna istorija transakcija, formulacija upozorenja, status stanja nakon bonus faze i činjenica da je Legacy of Egypt ostvario dobit od 0 evra uzmu u obzir prilikom procene da li je konfiskacija celog stanja pravedna i opravdana.
Prilažem relevantne dokaze i rado ću vam pružiti bilo kakvu dodatnu istoriju transakcija ili komunikaciju koja vam je potrebna.
Hvala vam puno na pomoći i što ste pažljivo pregledali dokaze.
Srdačan pozdrav,
M****
Hello Tomas,
Thank you for reviewing my complaint. I would like to answer your questions as clearly and accurately as possible, and I am attaching the supporting screenshots.
1. Why did I play Legacy of Egypt despite the warning?
I acknowledge that I entered Legacy of Egypt while the bonus was active. However, this was not an attempt to circumvent the bonus rules or deliberately generate winnings from a restricted game.
My game history shows exactly what happened: I placed only two bets of €4.50 on Legacy of Egypt, and both resulted in €0 winnings. I then immediately left the game.
This is particularly important because the warning itself states that "winnings originating from this game may be cancelled." In my case, there were no winnings originating from Legacy of Egypt at all.
2. Was the warning displayed on Legacy of Egypt?
Yes, the warning was displayed.
However, an important part of my complaint is that the same restricted-game warning was also displayed when opening 5 Lions Megaways, even though casino support specifically confirmed to me that I was allowed to play 5 Lions Megaways with my cashback/bonus as long as it was not a restricted game.
I am attaching both screenshots: the warning displayed on Legacy of Egypt and the same warning displayed on 5 Lions Megaways, together with the support conversation confirming that I could play 5 Lions Megaways.
This made the warning confusing as an indicator of whether a particular game was actually prohibited.
3. Was my current balance achieved with the help of the bonus?
I want to be completely transparent about this point.
My balance initially reached approximately €5,000 following the bonus play/conversion. At that stage, the balance was converted/displayed as real-money balance and became withdrawable.
From that point onward, I continued playing with the real-money balance and increased it substantially. Withdrawals were also accepted and at least two €1,000 bank withdrawals are shown as processed in my account history.
Therefore, I am not claiming that the bonus had absolutely no connection with the earlier €5,000 balance. My point is that, once the bonus stage had ended and the funds had become real and withdrawable, the subsequent balance was generated through further real-money play.
Most importantly, the two Legacy of Egypt bets that are now being relied upon by the casino generated €0 in winnings.
4. Regarding the casino’s justification for confiscating the balance
I am providing the relevant communication and evidence available to me.
My concern is the proportionality and contractual basis for confiscating the entire remaining balance. The two disputed Legacy of Egypt bets were €4.50 each and produced €0 winnings.
I therefore respectfully ask that the casino identify the precise term that permits the confiscation of the entire balance and winnings generated on other games, rather than simply cancelling winnings generated from the restricted game — particularly when the restricted game itself generated no winnings.
I am not trying to hide the fact that I entered Legacy of Egypt. I fully acknowledge those two bets. I am simply asking that the actual transaction history, the wording of the warning, the status of the balance after the bonus stage, and the fact that Legacy of Egypt produced €0 winnings all be considered when assessing whether confiscation of the entire balance is fair and justified.
I am attaching the relevant evidence and I am happy to provide any additional transaction history or communication you may require.
Thank you very much for your assistance and for reviewing the evidence carefully.
Best regards,
M****
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Zdravo Tomaše,
Želeo bih da potvrdim da je kazino sada rešio problem u moju korist. Uprava kazina je odlučila da napravi izuzetak, moji dobici nisu otkazani i isplate su nastavljene.
Hvala vam puno na pomoći i što ste razmotrili moju žalbu.
Stoga smatram da je žalba rešena.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Moez
Hello Tomas,
I would like to confirm that the casino has now resolved the issue in my favour. The casino management decided to make an exception, my winnings have not been cancelled, and withdrawals have resumed.
Thank you very much for your assistance and for reviewing my complaint.
I therefore consider the complaint resolved.
Best regards,
Moez
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Dragi/a SaidiM92,
Drago nam je da čujemo da je vaš problem rešen. Označićemo žalbu kao „rešenu" u našem sistemu. Cenimo vašu saradnju i potvrdu. Ako ikada u budućnosti naiđete na bilo kakve probleme sa ovim ili bilo kojim drugim kazinom, slobodno se obratite našem Centru za rešavanje žalbi. Tu smo da vam pomognemo.
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Unapred vam hvala na vremenu.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Tomas
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Dear SaidiM92,
We're glad to hear that your issue has been resolved. We'll go ahead and mark the complaint as 'resolved' in our system. We appreciate your cooperation and confirmation. If you ever encounter any issues with this or any other casino in the future, please feel free to reach out to our Complaint Resolution Center. We're here to help.
As you know, we do not charge for our services, nor do we accept any gratuities. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you could take a moment to share your experience with our services on Trustpilot https://www.trustpilot.com/evaluate/casino.guru. An honest review, along with any suggestions for improvement, would be invaluable. Your feedback could help others who may be considering contacting us for assistance with online casino-related issues.
Thank you in advance for your time.
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