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The player from Croatia had issues withdrawing his winnings of 2503 euros from Ultra Casino after they canceled his withdrawal claim, citing problems with his credit card, despite his successful past withdrawals. They also accused him of having active bonuses and using a VPN, which he denied. After a month of communication, his account manager stopped responding, and he was offered a low bonus of 300 euros as a goodwill gesture. The complaint was marked as unresolved due to lack of cooperation from the casino, and the player was advised to escalate the case to the Malta Gaming Authority, who redirected him to eCOGRA. The dispute was accepted by eCOGRA, and their decision was to be binding on the casino. The case was closed pending the regulator’s decision.
Igrač iz Hrvatske imao je problema sa podizanjem svog dobitka od 2503 evra iz Ultra kazina nakon što su otkazali njegov zahtev za podizanje, navodeći probleme sa njegovom kreditnom karticom, uprkos njegovim uspešnim prošlim podizanjima. Takođe su ga optužili da ima aktivne bonuse i koristi VPN, što je on negirao. Nakon mesec dana komunikacije, njegov menadžer naloga je prestao da odgovara, a ponuđen mu je nizak bonus od 300 evra kao gest dobre volje. Žalba je označena kao nerešena zbog nedostatka saradnje kazina, a igraču je savetovano da eskalira slučaj Malteškoj upravi za igre na sreću, koja ga je preusmerila na eCOGRA. eCOGRA je prihvatio spor, a njihova odluka je bila obavezujuća za kazino. Slučaj je zatvoren do odluke regulatora.
Zdravo, igrao sam na Ultrakazinu više od 6 meseci (KYC verifikovano) i uplatio sam oko 10.000 evra tokom ovog perioda. Imao sam nekoliko manjih isplata oko 200-500 evra i sve je bilo u redu. Problem se pojavio kada sam osvojio oko 2500 (dve hiljade i pet stotina) evra. Izvršio sam trenutnu isplatu i čekao. Sledećeg dana su mi poslali imejl u kojem tvrde da postoji problem sa mojom kreditnom karticom i otkazali su mi isplatu rekavši da pokušam da napravim novu. Iako sam ranije nekoliko puta isplaćivao novac sa istom kreditnom karticom, podneo sam novi zahtev za isplatu. Tri dana kasnije su mi ponovo otkazali isplatu i konfiskovali mojih 2503 evra tvrdeći da imam aktivan bonus (što nije istina) i da sam preterao sa klađenjem. Pored toga, rekli su da koristim VPN da bih sakrio svoju IP adresu (video sam na forumima da postoji gomila ljudi koji kažu da su optuženi za istu stvar), što je potpuno netačno. Ne koristim takve aplikacije i pored toga sam ranije nekoliko puta podigao novac i sve je bilo u redu. Takođe, verifikovan sam KYC. Mesec dana sam pokušavao da razgovaram sa njima kako bih ih uverio da ne koristim VPN i da ne kršim njihova pravila, jer znam koliko su strogi. Ponudili su mi 300 evra bonus novca kao znak „dobre volje" i odbili su sve što sam rekao. Posle nekoliko dana, moj menadžer naloga je prestao da mi odgovara iako nisam bio grub ili nešto slično.
Hi, i was playing on Ultracasino for more than 6 months (KYC verified) and deposited around 10.000 euros througn this period, i had few smaller withdrawals around 200-500 euros and everything was fine, problem occured when i won around 2500 (Two thousand five hundred) euros. I made instant withdrawal and waited. The next day they sent me an email claiming that there is a problem with my credit card and they canceled my withdrawal saying that i should try and make a new one. Even tho i made few withdrawals on the same credit card in the past. So i made a new withdrawal request. 3 days later they canceled my withdrawal again and conficated my 2503 euros claiming i had an active bonus (wich is not true) and that i was overbetting. On top of that they said i was using VPN to hide my IP adress (I saw on forums that there is bunch of people saying they were accused for same thing) wich is completely false. I do not use such applications and in adittion to that i made few withdrawals in the past and it was fine. Also i am KYC verified. I tried for a month speaking to them ensuring them i am not using VPN and that i wasnt breaking their rules because i know how strict they are. They offered me 300 euros of bonus money as a sign of a "Good will" and rejected everything i said. After few days my account manager stopped responding me even tho i was not rude or anything like that.
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Ponašajte se odgovorno.
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We only contact players through this official complaint thread or via @casino.guru e-mail addresses. Always check the sender’s domain and verify your complaint resolver’s e-mail address by clicking on their avatar visible inside the official complaint thread.
If anything seems suspicious, contact us directly.
Hvala vam puno što ste podneli žalbu. Žao mi je zbog poteškoća koje ste imali sa isplatom i statusom vašeg naloga.
Da bih jasnije razumeo/la vašu situaciju, želeo/la bih da vam postavim još nekoliko pitanja:
Kada ste tačno zatražili povlačenje 2.503 evra, a kada je to otkazano prvi i drugi put?
Da li je kazino pružio snimke ekrana, logove ili objašnjenja koja prikazuju navodni „aktivni bonus" ili „prekomerno klađenje"?
Da li je vaš nalog trenutno dostupan ili ga je kazino zatvorio?
Pomenuli ste da ste prosledili svoju komunikaciju sa kazinom — hvala vam na tome. Mogu li takođe da pitam da li ste tražili kompletnu istoriju igara od kazina? Ovo bi moglo biti korisno za naš pregled.
Vaša saradnja u pružanju ovih detalja će nam pomoći da istražimo i radimo na rešenju.
Nadam se da ćemo moći da vam pomognemo da rešite ovaj problem što je pre moguće.
Unapred hvala na vašem odgovoru.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Petronela
Dear Antidote,
Thank you very much for submitting your complaint. I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties you’ve encountered with your withdrawal and account status.
To understand your situation clearly, I would like to ask you a few additional questions:
When exactly did you request the withdrawal of €2,503, and when was it cancelled for the first and second time?
Did the casino provide any screenshots, logs, or explanations showing the alleged "active bonus" or "overbetting"?
Is your account currently accessible, or has it been closed by the casino?
You mentioned that you forwarded your communication with the casino — thank you for that. May I also ask whether you requested your full game history from the casino? This may be helpful for our review.
If you have anything else you believe might be relevant, please feel free to forward it to petronela.k@casino.guru.
Your cooperation in providing these details will help us investigate and work towards a resolution.
I hope we will be able to help you to resolve this issue as soon as possible.
1. Prvo podizanje sredstava sam izvršio 14. oktobra u 22:39, a sledećeg dana (15. oktobra u 9:03) su mi otkazali, rekavši da postoji problem sa mojom kreditnom karticom i da bi trebalo da izvršim još jedno podizanje.
Drugi zahtev za povlačenje sredstava podneo sam otprilike 2 sata kasnije (15. oktobra, 11:00) i otkazan je 20. oktobra u 11:10.
3 minuta kasnije su mi uklonili stanje na računu.
2. Tražio sam od njih dokaze o mojim prekršajima i rekli su mi da će mi ih poslati. Dan ili dva kasnije sam došao i pitao u ćatu da li je sve u redu, da li ćete mi poslati dokaze za ove optužbe kao što ste rekli da hoćete, a oni su mi rekli da imam sve u istoriji igre i da mogu sam da pretražim. Takođe, nisu poslati dokazi za optužbe u vezi sa VPN-om.
3. Moj nalog je i dalje dostupan.
4. Tražio sam to, da. Rečeno mi je da to mogu pronaći na svom profilu ili da to zatražim od njihovog tima (dali su mi neku imejl adresu koju sam kontaktirao pre 3 meseca u vezi sa mojim depozitima i nikada nisam dobio odgovor). Mogu vam to poslati putem imejla Petronela.
1. I made first withdrawal on October 14, 10:39 PM and it was canceled the next day (October 15, 9:03 AM) by them, saying there is a problem with my credit card and that i should make another withdrawal.
Second withdrawal request i made aprox. 2 hours later (October 15, 11:00 AM) and it was canceled on October 20, 11:10 AM.
3 minutes later they removed my balance.
2. I asked them for evidence of my violations and they told me that they will send it to me. Day or two later i came and asked in chat is everything ok, will you send me evidence of these accusations like you said you will and they told me i have everything in game history and that i can search for myself. Also no evidence was sent for VPN accusations.
3. My account is still accessible.
4. I requested it, yes. They told me i can find it on my profile or request it from their team ( They gave me some email wich i contacted 3 months ago about my deposits and never recieved an answer). I can send it to you through email Petronela.
Hvala vam puno na ažuriranju i pojašnjenju vremenskog okvira. Žao mi je što još uvek niste dobili nikakve konkretne dokaze od kazina u vezi sa navodnom aktivacijom bonusa ili korišćenjem VPN-a.
Pošto vam kazino nije dostavio snimke ekrana ili logove koji potkrepljuju ove tvrdnje, želeli bismo da pregledamo podatke sa vašeg naloga kako bismo proverili da li je neki bonus bio aktivan tokom vašeg poslednjeg igranja.
Ako nemate kompletnu istoriju igara ili vam je kazino nije dostavio, molimo vas da nam umesto toga pošaljete sledeće:
Snimci ekrana istorije blagajnika (koji prikazuju depozite, isplate i sva podešavanja)
Snimci ekrana istorije bonusa (koji prikazuju da li su bonusi zatraženi, aktivirani ili su istekli)
Ovi podaci će nam pomoći da proverimo da li je neki bonus zaista bio aktivan i da li postoji osnova za tvrdnju kazina o prekomernom klađenju.
Thank you very much for your update and for clarifying the timeline. I’m sorry to hear that you still haven’t received any concrete evidence from the casino regarding the alleged bonus activation or VPN use.
Since the casino has not provided you with screenshots or logs to support these claims, we would like to review your own account data to verify whether any bonus was active during the period of your most recent gameplay.
If you do not have full game history available, or if the casino did not provide it to you, could you please send us the following instead:
Cashier history screenshots (showing deposits, withdrawals, and any adjustments)
Bonus history screenshots (showing whether any bonuses were claimed, activated, or expired)
These pieces of information will help us check if any bonus was indeed active and whether there is any basis for the casino’s overbetting claim.
Hvala vam što ste prosledili istoriju igre. Pažljivo sam je pregledao i istakao ključne tačke kako bi situacija bila jasnija:
14.10. 20:19 – Uplata pravog novca od 100 evra + bonus ponude uplaćen
→ Nakon toga se dogodilo nekoliko preteranih opklada (označeno crvenom bojom)
14.10. 21:35 – Bonus za izdanje
→ Još dve opklade sa prevelikim iznosom, obe po 48 evra (označene crvenom bojom)
14.10. 22:15 – Uplata pravog novca od 150 evra
14.10. 22:39 – Podizanje pravog novca od 2503 evra
15.10. 09:03 – Poništenje isplate pravog novca
Na osnovu ove vremenske linije, čini se da su se stvarna sredstva i bonus sredstva možda mešali tokom igre, što bi moglo da objasni zašto kazino pominje kršenja pravila vezana za bonuse.
Možete li mi, molim vas, reći da li vam ovo tumačenje ima smisla iz vaše perspektive?
Da bismo ovo bolje razjasnili, ljubazno vas molim da nam pošaljete i istoriju vaših bonusa — dovoljan će biti jednostavan snimak ekrana.
Za vašu informaciju, poslaću vam i istaknutu istoriju igre na vašu imejl adresu, kako biste mogli da pregledate iste informacije sa svoje strane.
Hvala vam na saradnji.
Dear Antidote,
Thank you for forwarding the game history. I’ve reviewed it carefully and highlighted the key points to make the situation clearer:
14.10. 20:19 – Real cash deposit of 100 EUR + offer bonus credited
→ Several overbets occurred afterward (marked in red)
14.10. 21:35 – Issue bonus
→ Two further overbets, both 48 EUR (marked in red)
14.10. 22:15 – Real cash deposit of 150 EUR
14.10. 22:39 – Real cash withdrawal of 2503 EUR
15.10. 09:03 – Real cash cashout reversal
Based on this timeline, it appears that real funds and bonus funds may have been mixed during gameplay, which could explain why the casino is referring to bonus-related rule violations.
Could you please let me know whether this interpretation makes sense to you from your perspective?
To help us clarify this further, I kindly ask you to forward your bonus history as well — a simple screenshot will be sufficient.
For your reference, I will also send the highlighted game history to your email address, so you can review the same information on your side.
1. Zdravo Petronela, ima smisla, da. Ali na moj depozit od 150 evra koji sam uplatila oko 1 sat nakon što sam potrošila svoj dug, imala sam samo pravi novac na računu od 0,87 evrocenti, bonus novac je bio 0, i ne možeš ništa da uradiš sa tim. Možeš da otkažeš bonus novac ako ga imaš, ali ne možeš da otkažeš ili podigneš pravi novac ako je u pitanju samo nekoliko evrocenti. Dakle, moj depozit od 150 evra je napravljen preko 0,87 evrocenti (pravi novac) bez ikakvih bonusa, nije došlo do prekomerne opklade kao što možeš videti iz moje istorije igara, imala sam opkladu od 1 evro dok nisam osvojila 2435,06 evra i izvršila podizanje.
2. Ne postoji posebna opcija u meniju gde možete videti samo bonuse koji su korišćeni tokom sesija. Rečeno mi je da to mogu da proverim u istoriji igre. Prilažem nekoliko snimaka ekrana razgovora sa podrškom.
Nakon što su mi uklonili stanje na računu, menadžer mog VIP naloga je prestao da mi odgovara i svaki moj upit je „prosleđen relevantnom timu", ali nikada nisam dobio odgovor. Zato ne verujem da će me kontaktirati, ali videćemo.
Još jedna stvar, možete li promeniti sporni novac sa 2503 na 2453 jer sam zaboravio da napomenem da su mi, nakon što su me optužili za prekršaje, vratili 50 evra sa mog poslednjeg depozita.
Hvala vam.
1. Hi Petronela, it makes sense, yes. But on my deposit of 150 euros that i made around 1 hour after i spent my balance i had only real cash balance of 0.87 eurocents, bonus money was 0, and you cant do anything with that. You can cancel bonus money if you have one but you cant cancel or withdraw real balance money if its few eurocents only. So my deposit of 150 euros was made on top of 0.87 eurocents (real cash) without any bonunes taken, no overbet occured as you can see from my game history, i had 1 euro bet until i won 2435.06 euros and made withdrawal.
2. There is no specific option in menu where you can see only bonuses that were used during sessions. They told me i can check that in game history. Im attaching few screenshots of the conversation with support.
After they removed my balance my VIP account manager stopped responding to me and every enquiry i had was "escalated to relevant team" but i never recieved an answer. Thats why i dont believe they will contact me but we shall see.
One more thing, can you change disputed money from 2503 to 2453 because i forgot to mention that after they accused me for violations they returned 50 euros from my last deposit.
Hvala vam na saradnji i što ste nam pružili sve potrebne informacije. Zaista cenim vreme i trud koji ste uložili da sve do sada podelite sa nama.
Vaša žalba će sada preći u sledeću fazu našeg procesa i njome će se baviti vaš dodeljeni rešavač, Matej ( matej@casino.guru ). Ovo je standardni korak u našoj proceduri, jer će Rezolver direktno preuzeti komunikaciju sa kazinom i upravljati vašim slučajem od ove tačke pa nadalje.
Trenutno nije potrebna nikakva akcija od vas. Vaš rešavač će vas kontaktirati putem ove teme ako budu potrebni dodatni detalji. Možete biti sigurni da je vaš slučaj u veoma sposobnim rukama.
Želim vam puno sreće i nadam se da će vaš slučaj uskoro biti rešen na vaše zadovoljstvo.
Dear Antidote,
Thank you for your cooperation and for providing all the necessary information. I truly appreciate the time and effort you’ve taken to share everything with us so far.
Your complaint will now move to the next stage of our process and be handled by your dedicated Resolver, Matej (matej@casino.guru). This is a standard step in our procedure, as the Resolver will take over communication with the casino directly and manage your case from this point onward.
No action is required from you right now. Your Resolver will reach out through this thread if any additional details are needed. You can rest assured that your case is in very capable hands.
I wish you the best of luck and hope your case will be resolved to your satisfaction soon.
Voleli bi da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu pritužbu. Produžujemo timer za 7 dana. Ako kazino ne odgovori u predviđenom roku, prigovo ćemo zatvoriti kao "nerešen", što može negativno uticati na rejting kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. We are extending the timer by 7 days. If the casino fails to respond in the set time frame, we will close the complaint as ‘unresolved’ which may negatively affect its rating.
Želeli bismo da zamolimo kazino da odgovori na ovu žalbu. Tajmer je produžen za 7 dana zbog praznične sezone. Ukoliko ne odgovorite u ovom roku, žalba će biti zatvorena kao „nerešena", što može negativno uticati na ocenu kazina.
We would like to ask the casino to reply to this complaint. The timer is extended by 7 days due to the holiday season. Failure to respond within this timeframe will result in the complaint being closed as 'unresolved,' which may negatively impact the casino's rating.
Više puta sam pokušavao da kontaktiram kazino, ali bezuspešno. Nažalost, ne može se mnogo postići bez njihove saradnje.
Stoga ću žalbu označiti kao „nerešenu" u našem sistemu. Razumem da ovo nije zadovoljavajuće rešenje za vaš problem. Međutim, smanjenje ocene kazina uzrokovano nerešenim žalbama može pomoći u podsticanju promene njihovog pristupa.
Ako kazino odluči da odgovori, ponovo ćemo otvoriti žalbu i bićete obavešteni putem e-pošte.
Kazino je licenciran od strane Malteške uprave za igre na sreću, tako da bi sledeći korak bio da im direktno podnesete žalbu ovde:
Ako vam je potrebna bilo kakva pomoć u vezi sa ovim procesom, rado ću vam pomoći.
Srdačan pozdrav,
Matej
I have tried to contact the casino repeatedly but without success. Unfortunately, there is not much that can be achieved without cooperation from their side.
I will therefore mark the complaint as "unresolved" in our system. I understand that this is not a satisfactory solution to your issue. However, the decrease in the casino’s rating caused by unresolved complaints may help encourage a change in their approach.
If the casino decides to respond, we will reopen the complaint, and you will be notified by email.
The casino is licensed by the Malta Gaming Authority, so the next step would be to submit your complaint directly to them here:
Hvala Mateju što si pokušao da mi pomogneš, poslao sam žalbu MGA, rekli su mi da moj problem nije na njihovoj teritoriji i da treba da kontaktiram eCogra.
Thank you Matej for trying to help me, i sent a complaint to MGA, they told me that my kind of issue is not in their teritory and that i should contact eCogra.
Pregledao/la sam imejlove koje ste mi poslali. MGA vas je preusmerio/la na svog dobavljača alternativnog rešavanja sporova (eCOGRA) i izgleda da je vaš prigovor prihvaćen.
Pošto je iznos spora manji od 5.000 evra, odluka će biti obavezujuća za kazino. To znači da ako kazino izgubi spor, dužan je da vam plati. Generalno, ovo je verovatno najbolji mogući scenario.
Moraćete da sačekate konačan ishod, ali važno je da će odluka biti obavezujuća.
Sa naše strane, osim ako nema drugih razloga za rešavanje, zatvoriću slučaj kao nerešen sa statusom: čeka se odluka regulatora. Kada dobijete konačan odgovor, molimo vas da ponovo otvorite slučaj i mi ćemo ga shodno tome zatvoriti.
Hello Antidote,
I have reviewed the emails you sent me. MGA redirected you to their ADR provider (eCOGRA), and it appears that your dispute has been accepted.
As the amount in dispute is below €5,000, the decision will be binding on the casino. This means that if the casino loses the dispute, they are obliged to pay you. Overall, this is likely the best possible scenario.
You will need to wait for the final outcome, but the important point is that the decision will be binding.
From our side, unless there is anything else to address, I will close the case as unresolved with the status: waiting for the regulator’s decision. Once you receive the final answer, please reopen the case and we will close it accordingly.
Zatvaram slučaj kao nerešen sa statusom: čeka se odluka regulatora. Kada dobijete konačnu presudu od eCOGRA, molimo vas da ponovo otvorite slučaj.
I am closing the case as unresolved with the status: waiting for the regulator’s decision. Once you receive the final verdict from eCOGRA, please reopen the case.
Dragi Antidote, Nadamo se da ste dobro. Želeli smo da vas informišemo o vašem slučaju koji je prethodno označen sa "Čekajući na regulatora" na našoj stranici. Vaš prigovor je sada automatski otvoren ponovo i želimo da znamo da li je bilo nekih pomaka od naše poslednje komunikacije. Ako je regulatorno telo rešilo vaš prigovor u vašu korist, molimo vas da ažurirate vaš prigovor. Alternativno, ako je odlučeno u korist kazina, feedback je jednako bitan. Razumemo da je određeno vreme prošlo, ali ažuriranje prigovora nam omogućava da preduzmemo određene korake, kao što je davanje negativnih poena za kazino, ili upozoravanje igrača da regulator podržava radnje kazina. Zaista smo zahvalni na vašoj kooperaciji i vaš odgovor bi nam zaista bio značajan. Hvala u napred na vremenu i odgovoru.
Dear Antidote, We hope this finds you well. We would like to ask you to provide an update regarding this case, which was previously marked as "Waiting for Regulator" on our website. Your complaint has now been automatically reopened, and we are eager to know if there have been any recent developments or resolutions since our last communication. If the ADR or the Licensing Authority has resolved things in your favor, please update the thread and send over the official statement to my email. Alternatively, if the ruling favored the casino, your insights are just as crucial. We understand that some time has passed, but updating your complaint will allow us to take appropriate action, such as issuing black points to the casino in case the ruling is in your favor or warning other players and users about instances where the authority supports the operator. We truly appreciate your cooperation, and your response would be of great assistance to us. Thank you in advance for your reply.
Nažalost moramo vas obavestiti da, zbog nedostatka odgovora igrača na naše poruke, upite i podsetnike, trenutno nismo u mogućnosti nastaviti sa daljom istragom ili ponuditi potencijalna rešenja. Kao rezultat toga, moramo trenutno zatvoriti ovu žalbu. Međutim, imajte na umu da igrač zadržava mogućnost ponovnog otvaranja ove žalbe u bilo kom trenutku u budućnosti ako odluči nastaviti komunikaciju. Ostajemo otvoreni i spremni pomoći u rešavanju problema ako se igrač ponovno odluči obratiti.
Hvala na razumijevanju.
Srdačan pozdrav, Matej Casino.Guru
We regret to inform you that, due to the lack of response from the player to our messages, inquiries, and reminder, we are unable to proceed with further investigation or provide potential solutions at this time. As a result, we must close this complaint for the moment. However, please note that the player retains the option to reopen this complaint at any time in the future should they choose to resume communication. We remain open and ready to assist in resolving the matter should the player decide to reach out again.
Thank you for your understanding.
Best regards, Matej Casino.Guru
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