Naslov: Odgovor: Pojašnjenje detalja žalbe
Draga Veronika,
Hvala vam puno na odgovoru i što ste razmotrili moj slučaj.
Evo mojih odgovora na vaša pitanja:
1️⃣ Proces provere klijenta (KYC):
Da, prošao sam kroz njihov ceo KYC proces. Međutim, bilo je nepotrebno dugo, zbunjujuće i ponižavajuće. Traženo mi je da napravim više selfija sa rukopisom (koje nisu bile jasno opisane u uslovima i odredbama), da ponovim iste fotografije nekoliko puta i da dostavim dodatna dokumenta poput računa za komunalne usluge, pa čak i posebnog pisma od moje banke kako bih dokazao da posedujem svoju platnu karticu. To je zahtevalo skoro 80 imejlova, koje mogu da pružim kao dokaz. Po mom mišljenju, ovi prekomerni i ponavljajući zahtevi su namerno postavljeni kako bi se odložilo moje povlačenje novca.
2️⃣ Stanje pravog novca prilikom zaključenja:
Prvobitno sam uplatio 60 evra i osvojio približno 2450 evra. Zbog dugog kašnjenja u isplati i stresnog KYC procesa, na kraju sam igrao dalje dok sam čekao odobrenje. Prvo sam uspeo da podignem 1.000 evra, a zatim sam nažalost izgubio preostali iznos. Posle nekoliko dana, uspeo sam ponovo da osvojim oko 1.000 evra i uspešno sam podigao i taj iznos.
U vreme kada je moj nalog zatvoren, stanje pravog novca je bilo 0 evra jer su sva sredstva već bila povučena ili proigrana. Stoga se moja žalba ne odnosi na neisplaćene dobitke, već na ponižavajuće i preterano proveravanje ličnosti (KYC), izgubljeno vreme i stres, i činjenicu da je moj nalog trajno zatvoren bez jasnog razloga, što znači da ga nikada više ne mogu koristiti ili pokušati da igram i povratim ono što sam izgubio. Verujem da ovo opravdava razumnu nadoknadu za loše postupanje.
3️⃣ Samoisključivanje:
Nisam tražio nikakvo samoisključenje. Kazino mi je zatvorio nalog bez mog zahteva nakon što sam se žalio na postupanje sa mojim povlačenjem sredstava i tražio nadoknadu za izgubljeno vreme i emocionalni stres. Dobio sam generičku poruku u kojoj se navodi da je nalog zatvoren zbog „odluke administracije", ali nije dato jasno objašnjenje.
4️⃣ Zvanična komunikacija:
Da, imam imejlove u kojima su mi rekli da je moj nalog trajno zatvoren. Takođe su mi blokirali pristup nalogu, što znači da ne mogu ni da vidim celu istoriju transakcija niti da dobijem svoj ID/korisničko ime bez dodatnih problema — iako sam ranije završio KYC.
5️⃣ Što se tiče licence:
Svestan sam da su ranije poslovali pod licencom GCB Kurasaoa (OGL/2023/176/0095), ali kada sam kontaktirao Gaming Curaçao, rečeno mi je da im je podlicenca istekla u avgustu 2024. i da bi sada trebalo da budu licencirani prema novom CGA regulatoru — međutim, nema jasnog dokaza za to na njihovoj veb stranici ili u njihovoj komunikaciji.
Dakle, po mom mišljenju, oni ili posluju u sivoj zoni ili nisu transparentni u vezi sa svojom licencom, zbog čega verujem da bi trebalo da budu istraženi.
Spreman sam da podelim:
Sve imejl prepiske (79+)
Snimci ekrana blokiranog prijavljivanja na nalog
Dokaz o koracima KYC-a i nerazumnim zahtevima
Bilo koji drugi dokaz koji bi mogao pomoći u rešavanju ovog problema.
Hvala vam puno na pomoći. Zaista se nadam da će Casino Guru moći da izvrši pritisak na ovaj kazino da pravedno reši moj slučaj.
Subject: Re: Clarification of Complaint Details
Dear Veronika,
Thank you very much for your response and for looking into my case.
Here are my answers to your questions:
1️⃣ KYC process:
Yes, I went through their full KYC process. However, it was unnecessarily long, confusing and humiliating. I was asked to take multiple selfies with handwritten notes (which were not clearly described in the T&Cs), repeat the same photos several times, and provide additional documents like utility bills and even a special letter from my bank to prove I owned my payment card. This took almost 80 emails, which I can provide as evidence. In my opinion, these excessive and repetitive demands were made intentionally to delay my withdrawal.
2️⃣ Real-money balance at closure:
I originally deposited €60 and won approximately €2450. Due to the long withdrawal delay and stressful KYC process, I ended up playing further while waiting for approval. I first managed to withdraw €1,000, then unfortunately lost the remaining balance. After a few days, I was able to win back around €1,000 again and successfully withdrew that amount too.
At the time my account was closed, the real-money balance was €0 because all funds had already been withdrawn or played through. Therefore, my complaint is not about unpaid winnings, but about the humiliating and excessive KYC, the wasted time and stress, and the fact that my account was permanently closed without clear reason, meaning I can never use it again or try to play and recover what I lost. I believe this justifies a reasonable compensation for the mistreatment.
3️⃣ Self-exclusion:
I did not request any self-exclusion. The casino closed my account without my request after I complained about the handling of my withdrawal and asked for compensation for the time lost and the emotional stress. I received a generic message saying the account was closed due to the "administration’s decision", but no clear explanation was given.
4️⃣ Official communication:
Yes, I have the emails where they told me my account was permanently closed. They also blocked my access to the account, which means I cannot even see my full transaction history or get my ID/username without additional hassle — even though I completed KYC before.
5️⃣ Regarding the license:
I am aware they used to operate under a Curaçao GCB license (OGL/2023/176/0095), but when I contacted Gaming Curaçao I was told their sub-license expired in August 2024 and they should now be licensed under the new CGA regulator — however, there is no clear proof of this on their website or in their communications.
So in my view they are either operating in a grey area or not being transparent about their license, which is why I believe they should be investigated.
I am ready to share:
All the email conversations (79+)
Screenshots of blocked account login
Proof of KYC steps and unreasonable requests
Any other evidence that could help resolve this.
Thank you very much for your help. I really hope Casino Guru can assist in pressuring this casino to address my case fairly.
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