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Ako želite da diskutujete bilo šta vezano za Dozenspins Casino, kao što su igre, bonusi, metode plaćanja, problemi sa nalogom, odgovorno kockanje ili bilo šta drugo, možete to učiniti ovde.
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Da budem iskren, ne znam šta da mislim o ovom kazinu. Dobio dobro i brzo na početku. Isplata je trajala samo 2 dana uprkos verifikaciji. Ponovo uplaćeno. Ponovo isplatio 400 evra. Ne možete platiti više. Sada je isplata već 3 dana i ništa se ne dešava. Ne morate da pišete mejl, odgovora nikada neće biti. U ćaskanju mi je rečeno da plaćaju po principu prvi dođe, prvi uslužen. Malo čudno. Igre su na početku išle odlično, samo sada idu tako da više nemate šanse da osvojite nešto veće, koliko god da uplatite. Verovatno na svom sajtu nude da možete postaviti limit depozita, ali iz kazina nema odgovora. Šteta, stvarno sam mislio u početku, konačno dobar kazino, ali nažalost moj osećaj mi sada govori nešto drugačije.

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Kada sam u ćaskanju pitao zašto moja isplata još nije obrađena, odgovor je bio da kontaktiram kic podršku. Što sam uradio nekoliko puta, nije bilo odgovora. E-poruke se ignorišu i u ćaskanju uživo ne žele da pomognu. Ponovo pao na kazino

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It's strange from my point of view, considering that you have a fully verified account and I've seen that you've already made a withdrawal. Have you always withdrawn and deposited using the same method or have you used a different in some cases ? Sometimes the payment provider may have problems and therefore the casino may not be at fault. In case support and live chat do not respond, it is to the casino's detriment, because they can lose players in a similar way.

 

However, I would say that 3 days is not that long yet, try to give them more time, because nothing bad has to happen yet. As part of the resolution of player complaints, we give the casino up to 14 days to resolve the withdrawal. Anyway, if you still don't receive the money even after 14 days and the casino doesn't communicate, I would recommend filing a complaint.

 

By the way, you wrote that you thought you finally found a good casino. How did you get to this one ? Through Casino Guru or somewhere else?

Jaro
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Zdravo

Da, uvek imam iste metode depozita i povlačenja. Nisam se iznervirao što 2. uplata nije obrađena 3 dana, iako navode da će uplatu obraditi u roku od 24 sata. Bio sam samo iznenađen što je moja prva isplata bila na mom računu nakon samo 2 dana, iako sam još uvek morao da se potpuno verifikujem. A druga uplata je i dalje bila otvorena nakon 3 dana. Ovo je takođe obrađeno danas nakon 5 dana i prebačeno na moj račun. Možda samo zato što sam napisao recenziju ovde. Sa prvom isplatom, takođe sam bio u ćaskanju uživo sledećeg dana da pitam koliko će vremena trebati da se to obradi. Pitali su me da nisam dobio mejl. Ne, nisam. Zaposleni mi je zatim poslao sadržaj ove e-pošte u ćaskanju uživo. Pisalo je da treba da pošaljem dokument podršci kic-a, što sam i uradio. Moje povlačenje je obrađeno sledećeg dana. Tako da mi je sve normalno. Ali kada druga uplata nije obrađena, ponovo sam pitao u ćaskanju. A onda je stigao odgovor, isplaćuju po principu ko prvi dođe. Trebalo bi da pišem podršci ili kic odeljenju. Uradio sam to nekoliko puta, do danas nisam dobio nijedan odgovor. Kazino je na moju recenziju odgovorio da brzo rešavaju probleme. Trebalo bi da pišete podršci. To mi je bilo stvarno smešno jer sam to uradio više puta i potpuno su me ignorisali. Nijedan mejl se nije vratio, ni jedan, ništa. Zato sam napisao svoj post ovde da bih možda ovde dobio odgovor. Da na početku sam mislio vau odličan kazino. Utakmice su išle veoma dobro i bilo je zaista dobrih šansi za pobedu. 1 uplata je takođe protekla bez problema. Kada sam ponovo pobedio i ponovo zatražio povlačenje, zabava je bila gotova. Ponovo sam deponovao nekoliko puta, iako je moja druga isplata još uvek bila na čekanju. Ali od tada igre više nisu išle sjajno, stvarno su trčale kao da zaustavljate kolutove na takav način da više ne ostvarujete profit. U mojim očima, to nije imalo nikakve veze sa dobrom ili lošom srećom. A ni ja to ne zamišljam. Jednom sam našao ovaj kazino ovde u Casino Guru-u i bio je veoma dobro ocenjen. Za mene u kazinu nisu važne samo igre, već i podrška. Ali ovde nije pomoglo, već je jednostavno ignorisano.

Još uvek igram u drugom kazinu u kom sam se registrovao pre nedelju dana. I tek danas smo saznali da njime upravlja ista kompanija. Kazino se zove All Reels. Tamo sam danas osvojio 2200 evra i 3 puta tražio isplatu od 400 evra. Pitao sam u četovanju koliko intervala mogu da platim. Tamo je rekao 3 isplate u isto vreme. Dakle, isto kao ovde u ovom kazinu. Tada sam prvi put primetio da ova kazina pripadaju jedno drugom. Ponovo sam pitao da li još moram da šaljem dokumente, iako sam verifikovao svoj nalog odmah nakon registracije. All Reels su mi takođe rekli da sačekam e-poštu. Tako da sam zaista uzbuđen da vidim šta dolazi.

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Hi, I'm glad you got the second withdrawal in 5 days. Regarding the games, in this case we have no information about them being fake or anything like that.

In terms of playing at a sister casino, I'll just say that I think it's going to be a similar withdrawal process and it's also possible that both casinos use the same customer support. In this case, I hope you will be able to withdraw money at the sister casino. 

When your money arrives, could you let us know here on the forum if it was a similar or the same process or if you had a more positive experience?

Jaro
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Zdravo

Nažalost, još gore je u sestrinskom kazinu All Reels, morao sam da uložim žalbu jer ne mogu dalje

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Well, it is certainly not pleasant that you're also having problems in sister casino and I understand your frustration. 

Regarding the complaint you filed, I've already read it and Veronica and the whole team will try to make sure the situation is resolved fairly. For now, we just have to wait and see how the casino responds to your issue. 

Once you made any progress, just let us know.

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Pre 5 dana napisao sam imejl podršci da bi trebalo da zatvore moj nalog. Još jednom nije bilo reakcije i moj nalog je i dalje otvoren. Opet je bilo stvarno glupo i ponovo sam platio. Onoliko brzo koliko je uplaćeno. Tako sam se brzo vratio na nulu. Onda sam ušao u ćaskanje uživo da pitam zašto ste ponovo ignorisali moju e-poštu, sada sam takođe ignorisan u ćaskanju uživo. Ko ovde očekuje pomoć od podrške greši. Ako želite da bacite svoj novac, ovo je mesto za vas

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Gretche70
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Please use the "reply" button if possible. As for your specific situation, I don't understand what the problem is when the casino is unable to close the account. I'm sorry that in this case you deposited there again and lost. 

In your particular situation, I would recommend a complaint since the casino is ignoring your efforts to close your account. 

Do you think you will try ?

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Looking at Altacore N.V. ‘s other casinos( IWild, Icebet, Stellario, Burningbet, SmokeAce, Windetta, WinLegends, Allreels, Winstoria, Snatch) you see the same modus operandi through the group.

* Above average rating by Guru

* Poor rating by reviewers

* Highly rated fake reviews

* Preditory Bonus structure

* purposefully delayed payments that are below daily limits

* Support lies both privately and publicly when answering customer complaints about payments and bonus structure

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This is part of a complaint for Dozenspins that is reflected through the Altacore N. my V. group regarding preditory Bonus Terms

https://casino.guru/dozenspins-casino-player-s-winnings-partially-confiscated

Peter

Casino Data Team Lead & Complaint Specialist

• 1 MONTH AGO

Hi all,

Thank you for your replies.

Dear Dozenspins Casino team,

I'm afraid I have to agree with Ypsi2005. It's fine that you inform the players about applying max cashout when the wagering of the bonus is finished and when their winnings are higher than this amount. But how about the majority of the players whose winnings are lower than the max cashout? How do they know if the bonus. rules still apply to their balance even if the wagering of the bonus is finished and the balance is displayed as real money? This doesn't make any sense. Even if the player should make a withdrawal in order to get rid of the max cashout rule (which isn't even stated in the casino's Bonus T&Cs) it would be very user-unfriendly, unintuitive, and even predatory. As soon as the wagering is finished and the bonus money is converted to real money, all bonus rules should be dropped, and therefore Ypsi2005 should get paid in full.

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Casino Guru! Can you explain why this warning doesn’t show on all Altacore NV sites when they have nearly IDENTICAL bonus, withdrawal and management structure?

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This is part of a complaint for Dozenspins that is reflected through the Altacore N. my V. group regarding preditory Bonus Terms

https://casino.guru/dozenspins-casino-player-s-winnings-partially-confiscated

Peter

Casino Data Team Lead & Complaint Specialist

• 1 MONTH AGO

Hi all,

Thank you for your replies.

Dear Dozenspins Casino team,

I'm afraid I have to agree with Ypsi2005. It's fine that you inform the players about applying max cashout when the wagering of the bonus is finished and when their winnings are higher than this amount. But how about the majority of the players whose winnings are lower than the max cashout? How do they know if the bonus. rules still apply to their balance even if the wagering of the bonus is finished and the balance is displayed as real money? This doesn't make any sense. Even if the player should make a withdrawal in order to get rid of the max cashout rule (which isn't even stated in the casino's Bonus T&Cs) it would be very user-unfriendly, unintuitive, and even predatory. As soon as the wagering is finished and the bonus money is converted to real money, all bonus rules should be dropped, and therefore Ypsi2005 should get paid in full.

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This is the same story - same open complaint.

Kindly mind my reply right here. Thank you!

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Casino Guru! Can you explain why this warning doesn’t show on all Altacore NV sites when they have nearly IDENTICAL bonus, withdrawal and management structure?

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Hello again!

Well, almost identical does not sound completely identical to me. Since I'm not responsible for these warnings, I'm afraid you'll get no answers from me.

Could you ask the Data Team, as you may do yourself anytime you'd like:

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Scroll down the Overview tab to see this feature.

I can't see this warning while looking at Dozenspins Casino, though. Also, these two don't have the same bonuses, I'd say.

I honestly do not understand the issue:

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Since you seem very concerned about the whole group, I also added another screenshot, - does not look the same to me.

I truly recommend sharing your concern with the Data Team directly, thus, I feel I can't help you further with this subject. 🤔


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I think you either didn’t read what I wrote or you are playing the same game as the casinos. Their go to answer to most questions is that "they don’t quite understand your concern".

I clearly wrote their bonus structure is nearly identical ie terms and conditions. Showing pictures of promotions from each casino is a silly answer to my question. Of coarse their promos aren’t exactly the same but the legalese behind them is….

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Btw I have not received a single response from any "author and guarantor" when I’ve made comments on the reviews.

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I think you either didn’t read what I wrote or you are playing the same game as the casinos. Their go to answer to most questions is that "they don’t quite understand your concern".

I clearly wrote their bonus structure is nearly identical ie terms and conditions. Showing pictures of promotions from each casino is a silly answer to my question. Of coarse their promos aren’t exactly the same but the legalese behind them is….

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Could you kindly focus on my reply instead of comparing us to casinos?

Submit a complaint or inform our Data Team.

Without a concrete situation, there is nothing to discuss with words like "legalasel" "promos" or the rest - to be honest.

You started with the print screens - remember? 🙂

So, I sent you a bonus tab printscreen to identify the issue - this isn't any promo by the way. I was trying to understand you better.

We do not get involved in legality here on the forum, we focus on fairness, because it is easier to apply the principles to players from all countries around the world. If you are convinced there is something illegally wrong with the bonuses, turn to the licensing authority or hire a lawyer.

If you seek help with unfair treatment in any casino, submit a complaint.

Otherwise, I have no clue what you want to achieve here.



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Btw I have not received a single response from any "author and guarantor" when I’ve made comments on the reviews.

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Meaning when you used this feature?

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When exactly did you write there? Can you share the subject and the sender's email address?

Alternatively, please provide further details on data@casino.guru, I'll ask the Team to look into it for you 🙂

Radka
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Let’s focus on what I said then Radka. Btw this is a forum and if you do not understand what a forum is you should not be replying to posters. I will write about Altacore NV casinos dirty laundry anytime I can because Guru is promoting this nasty group of casinos as trustworthy.

Im more concerned about what other players see here than your opinion "to be honest"

"Submit a complaint or inform our Data Team."

Im complaining on forum in leu of making a complaint because there is no point. I’m done with Altacore NV casinos and I want to make other players aware of their preditory Terms and conditions.

The complaint process is unproductive to say the least when you are looking to make Gurus reviews honest.

For example if I complain that payment is slow and not per terms and conditions the only thing that is followed up is eventual payment to the customer. Casino Guru does not change what the Daily limits are for payments on the review page when it is obvious across all Altacore NV casinos their policy is to stall payments as long as possible and make the max payout of 400€ per day regardless of each Individual casinos daily limits. The poor soles that win a large amount of money are in for a shock when they try to withdraw. Lol.

When it comes to the bonus structure there should be a warning at all Altacore NV casinos that if you do not withdraw your full balance at the time of bonus fulfillment you will have additional winnings deleted. There are many complaints in regards to this across Altacore NV casinos yet there are no warnings except on Dozenspins.

As for contacting the "data team" what would I send to them ? Guru has all the info they need in their complaint system but have made no wholesome changes to the Guru Review pages for the Altacore Casinos.

If I send in proof of delayed payments will the daily withdrawal limit change on review page?

If I send proof that that they claw back wins a second time after bonus fulfillment will you put a warning?

I call bullshit because there are active and resolved complaints regarding these issues and no changes have been made.




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