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pre svega ovaj kazino cilja na holandiju što je ilegalno .u svakom slučaju ja sam se registrovao ovde pod pretpostavkom da su svi provajderi dostupni koji nisu .volim live rulet i oni nude samo portomasso igranje koje smatram veoma odvratnim i prevarantskim provajderom .uplatio sam 170€ u 2 sesije bilo je nemoguće ostvariti 1€ profita .jasno sam izrazio zabrinutost oko poštenja igre i zatražio momentalno zatvaranje mog računa .sljedećeg dana dobijam e-mail ako sam siguran da želim zatvoriti svoj račun i rekao mi isto sranje uvek ponavljaju da je provajder legalan i da je kazino licenciran da nudi igru u holandiji totalno bs .kao što znam 99,9% kazina na malti ima ograničene holandske igrače .onda sam jedan dan kasnije odlučio da mu dam još jednog šansa, ali nisam bio u mogućnosti da uplatim nakon što sam ih kontaktirao putem e-pošte bio sam nakon 1 sata ponovo u mogućnosti uplatiti i igrati ponovo sam izgubio 200€ ponovo je nemoguće igrati i osvojiti nešto .zamrzavanje ekrana i brzo okretanje .u uslovima jasno navedeno th u periodu hlađenja mora se poštovati 24 sata.
ovaj kazino je prekršio 2 x njihove sopstvene uslove: ograničenja u zemlji i odgovorno igranje koje me koštalo 370€ za ništa.
tražeći povrat novca odbijaju .prijavit ću ih holandskom KS-u da ih kazni i blokira.nemaju pravo nuditi igrice u holandiji to je nelegalno.
first of all this casino is targetting the netherlands wich is illegal .anyway i registerd here assuming all providers are available wich is not .i like live roulette and they only offer portomasso gaming wich i find very disgusting and scamming provider .i deposited 170€ in 2 sessions it was impossible to make 1€ profit .i made clear my concerns about the fairness of the game and requested immidiatly closing my acount .next day i get an email if i was sure i want to close my acount and told me the same crap they always repeat that the provider is legit and that the casino is licensed to offer game in the netherlands totaly bs .as i know 99.9% of the casinos on malta has restricted dutch players .then one day later i decided to give it one more chance but i was not able to deposit after contacting them by email i was after 1 hour again able to deposit and play i lost 200€ again it is impossible to play and win something .freezing screens and fast spinning .in the terms state clearly that a cooling off period must be honoured for 24 hours .
this casino breached 2 x their own terms :country restrictions and responsible gaming wich cost me 370€ for nothing .
asking for a refund they refuse .i will report them to the dutch ksa to fine and block them.they have no right to offer games in the netherlands it is illegal.
Nisam baš siguran kako to funkcionira s licencama u Holandiji. U svakom slučaju, čini se da su licencirani od strane MGA, koji je jedan od boljih regulatora. Možete im podnijeti žalbu direktno i vidjeti šta će reći.
I'm not really sure how that works with licenses in Netherlands. Anyway, they seem to be licensed by MGA, which is one of the better regulators out there. You could submit a complaint directly to them and see what they're going to say.
zdravo Daniele,
Uprava za kockanje (Ksa) radi studiju o 250 online kazina bez dozvole za igranje iz Holandije. Ako je to slučaj, ove stranke mogu računati na veliki broj novčanih kazni. Nezakonito je nuditi usluge holandskoj holandskoj licenci bez holandske licence.
Uprava KSA na blogu obavještava da ove stranke mogu računati na znatno veće kazne u negativnom ishodu. Od 1. novembra ove kazne su znatno veće od ukidanja politike izvršenja. Kada Ksa kažnjava nelegalno online kockarnice nakon pregleda, imate dvije mogućnosti da dobijete kaznu:
Za promet iznad 15 miliona eura kazna je 4% prometa (najmanje 600.000 eura)
Ako promet nije poznat, Ksa će napraviti procjenu. Ako je to manje od 15 miliona eura, osnovna kazna je 600.000 eura
strogo je zabranjeno uzimati holandske igrače bez holandske licence čak ni malta licenca se ne računa
hi Daniel,
The gambling Authority (Ksa) is doing a study on 250 online casinos without a license to play there from the Netherlands. If this is the case, these parties can count on a large number of fines. It is illegal to offer services to Dutch Dutch license without Dutch license.
The KSA Authority informs in a blog that these parties can count on a significant higher fines in a negative outcome. Since 1 November, these fines have been a lot higher since the end of the enforcement policy. When an illegally online casinos after examination is now fined by the Ksa, you have two options for a fine to be reached:
In turnover above €15 million, the fine is 4% of turnover (at least €600,000)
If the turnover is not known, the Ksa will make an estimate. If this is less than €15 million, the basic fine is €600,000
it is strctly forbidden to take dutch players without dutch license even a malta license does not count
Odlučili ste da deponujete ovde i igrate, gubite svoj novac pa zašto krivite kazino? 😀
You choosed to deposit here and play, you loose your money so why you blaming casino? 😀
Odabrao sam kazino jer sam mislio da imaju više stolova uživo i ispostavilo se da je samo jedan provajder odvratan .Tražio sam da mi se račun zatvori ali su mi poslali e-mail sljedećeg dana pitajući želim li sigurno zatvoriti račun .i dan poslije kontaktirao sam ih da ne mogu da uplatim opciju da iskoristim drugu priliku .bez hlađenja u periodu od 24 sata ne smatram da je ovo odgovoran kazino .zašto prihvataju holandske igrače ionako nemaju licencu za to .ako to ne urade ne bih igrao i izgubim svoj novac. razumijes sta hocu da kazem?😃 svi su oni prevaranti .pljackaju nas na bilo koji nacin.trazio sam da mi vrate pola depozita ali oni odbijaju.nikad nisam bio u casinu uživo sa 370€ nisam osvojio ni centa to jednostavno ne može da se uradi .čista prevara
i choce the casino because i thaught they had more live tables and it turned out only one provider a disqusting one .i requested my acount to be closed but they send me email next day asking if i wanted sure to close acount .and then day after i contacted them to unable deposit option to take another chance .with no coolingof period of 24 hours i dont find this a responsible casino .why they accept dutch players anyway they have no license for that .if they not do this that i would not play and lose my money. do you understand what i mean?😃 they are all scammers .they are robbing us by whatever means.i asked them to refund half my deposits but they refuse.i have never been in a live casino with 370 € didn't win a cent it just can't be done .pure scam
i choce the casino because i thaught they had more live tables and it turned out only one provider a disqusting one .i requested my acount to be closed but they send me email next day asking if i wanted sure to close acount .and then day after i contacted them to unable deposit option to take another chance .with no coolingof period of 24 hours i dont find this a responsible casino .why they accept dutch players anyway they have no license for that .if they dit not do that i would not play and lose my money. begrijp je wat ik bedoel?😃 het zijn allemaal oplichters .ze zijn ons aan het beroven met wat middel dan ook.ik heb ze gevraagd de helft mijn stortingen te rug te geven maar ze weigeren.ik heb nog nooit in een live casino met 370€ geen cent gewonnen het kan gewoon niet .pure oplichting
zdravo Daniele,
Uprava za kockanje (Ksa) radi studiju o 250 online kazina bez dozvole za igranje iz Holandije. Ako je to slučaj, ove stranke mogu računati na veliki broj novčanih kazni. Nezakonito je nuditi usluge holandskoj holandskoj licenci bez holandske licence.
Uprava KSA na blogu obavještava da ove stranke mogu računati na znatno veće kazne u negativnom ishodu. Od 1. novembra ove kazne su znatno veće od ukidanja politike izvršenja. Kada Ksa kažnjava nelegalno online kockarnice nakon pregleda, imate dvije mogućnosti da dobijete kaznu:
Za promet iznad 15 miliona eura kazna je 4% prometa (najmanje 600.000 eura)
Ako promet nije poznat, Ksa će napraviti procjenu. Ako je to manje od 15 miliona eura, osnovna kazna je 600.000 eura
strogo je zabranjeno uzimati holandske igrače bez holandske licence čak ni malta licenca se ne računa
hi Daniel,
The gambling Authority (Ksa) is doing a study on 250 online casinos without a license to play there from the Netherlands. If this is the case, these parties can count on a large number of fines. It is illegal to offer services to Dutch Dutch license without Dutch license.
The KSA Authority informs in a blog that these parties can count on a significant higher fines in a negative outcome. Since 1 November, these fines have been a lot higher since the end of the enforcement policy. When an illegally online casinos after examination is now fined by the Ksa, you have two options for a fine to be reached:
In turnover above €15 million, the fine is 4% of turnover (at least €600,000)
If the turnover is not known, the Ksa will make an estimate. If this is less than €15 million, the basic fine is €600,000
it is strctly forbidden to take dutch players without dutch license even a malta license does not count
Koliko se sjećam, mnoga kazina licencirana u Curacao pokušavaju izbjeći prihvatanje igrača iz Holandije. S druge strane, neka kazina licencirana na drugom mjestu ili kazina bez licence obično ne mare kakve kazne mogu dobiti u Holandiji za prihvatanje holandskih igrača. Nema organa koji bi ih natjerao da plate kazne.
As far as I can remember, many casinos licensed in Curacao try to avoid accepting players from Netherlands. On the other hand, some casinos licensed elsewhere or casinos with no license usually don't care about what kind of fines they can get in Netherlands for accepting the Dutch players. There's no authority that would force them to pay the fines.
da holandska vlada vrši pritisak na Curacao da naplati kazne .luckydays je odmah platio kaznu od 600.000€ .problem je što kazina zarađuju milione godišnje i ne mare za ove kazne .milionske kazne bi bila druga stvar.
yes the dutch goverment is pressing curacao to collect the fines .luckydays payed 600000€ fine immidiatly .the problem is casinos make millions annually and dont care about these fines .millions fines would be a different thing.
Zapravo kazne mogu biti velika stvar za određene manje kockarnice. Veliki poznati brendovi ne moraju toliko da brinu o tome, ali veliki i popularni brendovi su uglavnom pošteni i poštuju zakon.
Actually the fines can be a big deal for certain smaller casinos. The big known brands don't need to care that much about it, but the big and popular brands are mostly fair and they obey the law.
odabrao sam 3x kazina odavde da igram, svi oni imaju u svojim uslovima da je holandija ograničena čak i opcije depozita, ali i dalje uzimaju holandske igrače .koštalo me je 2700€ za 10 dana .nisam čak ni siguran da li bi mi platili nakon pobjede .od sada više neću otvarati račune u kockarnicama bez holandske licence .
i picked 3x casinos from here to play all of them have in their terms that the netherlands is restricted even the deposit options but they still take dutch players .it cost me 2700€ in 10 days .i am even not sure if i would get payed after a win .from now on i will no longer open acounts with casinos without dutch license .
To je definitivno najsigurnija opcija. Nisam baš upoznat s detaljima u pogledu holandske licence. Postoji li nešto što kazina moraju implementirati da bi dobili holandsku licencu, ali je to zapravo jako loše za igrače? Na primjer, u Njemačkoj, okretanje treba da traje 5 ili više sekundi, autospin je zabranjen, RTP je smanjen za 5% zbog poreza na promet itd.
Postoji li neki razlog zašto holandski igrači ne bi trebali igrati u kockarnicama sa holandskim licencama?
It's definitely the safest option. I'm not really familiar with details in terms of Dutch license. Is there something that casinos need to implement in order to get the Dutch license, but it's actually very bad for players? For example in Germany, the spin needs to take 5 or more seconds, autospin is forbidden, RTP is lowered by 5 % due to tax on turnover etc.
Is there any reason why Dutch players shouldn't play in casinos with Dutch licenses?
bok Daniele,najlicemjernija drzava na cijelom svijetu je holandija ..oni nikada nisu trebali regulirati online kockarnice.stvarno je to farsa .odabrali su nekoliko kriminalaca i dali im dozvolu .vecina ih ima vise od 50 kockarnice u zemlji i naravno lutrija i državna kazina su prvi put izašli na internet .samo jedan provajder evolution gaming .čuli smo 20 godina da nas vlada upozorava da ne igramo vani i da igre nisu bile poštene i da kockarnice nisu podržavale odgovorne igranje i za koga daju licencu?isti provajder i igrice .rtp je 31% manji jer operateri moraju da plate porez od 30% .probao sam svih 10 kockarnica kostalo me je 3000€ mesec dana najveći dobitak je bio 30€ stvarno ako ti pričaš o prevari evo ga. zatvorio sam ih sve .kockarska ploča je nestala .ne čuješ ih više .nema odgovora ako uložiš žalbu potrebno je 8 sedmica .prevoznici su bezobrazni .ako imaš negativnu kritiku zatvaraju se vaš račun .novi propis je postavljen na štite igrače od ovisnosti, ali vas ubijaju promocijama kazina čak su i vozovi obojeni u boje kazina .ograničenja su bila svagda .ne igrate već samo kliknete iskačuće prozore o vašim ograničenjima i vremenu igranja .da li su kazina na Malti plaćena u sekundama ovdje morate čekati 5 dana jer vlada želi pratiti svakog igrača .privatnost je izbačena kroz prozor .nema više slobode .holandija je ubila kockanje na mreži za vlastitu korist (porezi)sada razumijem da vlade nisu za ljude .
kazina na Malti mi zaista jako nedostaju .ali nažalost svaki kazino koji dobije licencu platit će porez od 30% .rtp će biti isti kao i obični kazina.
ima mnogo pritužbi ovdje .kazino guru bi trebao otvoriti holandsku stranicu da pomogne igračima 😂 igrao sam 15 godina na malti nekoliko problema ali generalno odlično iskustvo i uvijek sam dobio svoj novac ako sam pobijedio .za mene je online mrtav .imam još 6 mjeseci da idem dok se moja zabrana ne završi .od tada igraj samo u pravom kazinu .nakon 15 godina igranja na mreži imaš gađenje zbog svih ovih online pravila: verifikacije, čekanje na dobitke i greške u igricama .a najviše od evolucije igranje odvratnih manipulisanih stolova imao sam više od 100 naloga koštalo me je oko 400000€.
hi Daniel,the most hypocrite country in the whole world is the netherlands ..they should never ever had regulate the online casinos.really it is a farce .they picked a few criminals and gave them a license .most of them have more than 50 gamblng halls in the country and of course the lottery and the state casinos first went online .only one provider evolution gaming .we heard 20 years the goverment warn us not to play outside and that the games were not fair and the casinos were not supporting responsible gaming and who they give a license for?the same provider and games .the rtp is 31% down because the operators have to pay 30% tax .i tried all 10 casinos cost me 3000€ one month the biggest win was 30€ really if you talk about scam here is it.i closed all of them .the gambling board is vanished .you dont hear them anymore .no response if you file a complaint it takes 8 weeks .the oprators are rude .if you have negative critisisum they close your acount .the new regulation is set up to protect players from addiction but they kill you with casino promotions even trains are painted in casino colours .limits everywere .you are not playing but only clicking popups away about your limits and playtime .were malta casinos payed in seconds here you have to wait 5 days because the gouverment want to track every player .privacy is thrown out of the window .there is no freedom anymore .netherlands has killed online gambling for there own benefit (taxes)now i understand the goverments are not for the people .
i miss the malta casinos really very much .but unfortunatly every casino who will get a license will pay the 30% taxes .the rtp will be the same as regular casinos.
there are many complaints here .casino guru should open a dutch site to help the players 😂 i played 15 years at malta few problems but overall great experience and always got my money if i won .for me online is dead .i have 6 still month to go untill my bann is over .from then on only play in a real casino .after 15 years playing online you get disgust by all these online rules :verifications,waiting for the wins and the bugs in the games .and most of all evolution gaming disgusting manipulated tables i had more than 100 acounts cost me about 400000€ .
Vau, to zvuči ludo! U tom slučaju, možete pokušati pronaći nekoliko dobrih kazina koji se pridržavaju njih. Znam da će biti teško, ali trebalo bi da postoji nekoliko pouzdanih kazina čak i za holandske igrače. Glavni problem je u tome što kad god igrač iz Velike Britanije ne želi da igra u kazinu sa licencom iz UK ili nemački igrač ne želi da igra u nemačkom kazinu, uvek ide u kazino Curacao. Problem je što je Curacao povezan sa Holandijom, pa to postaje veliki problem za holandske igrače. S druge strane, nikada ne bih preporučio igranje u kockarnicama bez licence. Osećam da su holandski igrači nekako zarobljeni u ovom slučaju.
Wow, that sounds crazy! In that case, you can try to find a few good casinos in stick to them. I know it's going to be difficult, but there should be a few reliable casinos even for Dutch players. The major problem is that whenever a UK player doesn't want to play in a casino with UK license or German player doesn't want to play in a German casino, they always go to a Curacao casino. The problem is that Curacao is related to Netherlands, so it becomes a huge issue for Dutch players. On the other hand, I'd never recommend playing in casinos with no license. I feel like Dutch players are kind of trapped in this case.
Probao sam 3 kazina Curacao koštala su me 2300€ u jednoj sedmici .čak i oni navode u uvjetima da je Nizozemska ograničena, uzimaju holandske igrače i pod ograničenim zemljama uvijek dodaju: vaša je isključiva odgovornost da se pridržavate pravila svoje zemlje' potpuna glupost .to je samo rupa da se izvuče .mislim da curacao mora zahtijevati geoblokiranje za sve kockarnice koje su tamo licencirane .inače ne možete ovo shvatiti ozbiljno.malta kazina nekoliko je to uradilo na curacao većina njih još uvijek prakticira ovo . igrati tamo i znati da je zemlja ograničena nije ugodno jer ko zna da će kasino kasnije ponovo koristiti kada osvojiš dobar iznos. trebao je prihvatiti preporuke kazino gurua .ovdje se navodi da su kazina blokirana u holandiji .
nadam se da će ih holandija potjerati i kazniti ih u skladu s tim zbog štete koju čine.
i tried 3 curacao casinos cost me 2300€ in one week .even they state in the terms that the netherlands is restricted they take dutch players and under the restriced countrys they always add : it is your sole responsibility to abide by your own country rules’utter nonsense .it is just a loophole to get away with it .i think curacao must demand a geoblocking for all casinos licensed there .otherwise you cant take this serious.malta casinos a few had done it were curacao most of them still practising this .playing there and knowing the country is restricted is not comfortable because who knows the casino later will use it again you when winning a good amount righti experienced very bad casinos on curacao wich cost me almost 10000€ .the internet is full of these practices.i should have taken casino guru recomandations .it state here that the casinos are blocked netherlands .
i hope the netherlands will chace them and fine them accordingly for the harm they are doing .
Hej Jano, možete igrati legalni kazino u Holandiji i možete pronaći listu ovdje i tamo možete igrati bez problema. Ne igrajte u kazinu Curacao. Jesam i ranije i mogu vam reći da je jedini koji je osvojio sam kazino 🙁
Hey Jano you can play legal casino in the Netherlands and you can find a list here and you can play there without any problems. Don't play at Curacao casino's. I did before and i can tell you the only one who wins it the casino itselfs 🙁
Napravio sam račun prošle godine. Nakon što sam nekoliko puta uplatio novac, osvojio sam nešto novca, izvršio verifikaciju i izvršio povlačenje bez problema. Ove godine sam ponovo okušao sreću u ovom kazinu sa uspehom, uplatio sam €50 i osvojio €8000. Jednom kada sam pokušao da unovčim ovaj iznos račun mi je onemogućen i samo 5 dana nakon što sam dobio poruku da mi je račun zatvoren zbog sumnje na pranje novca?! Predao sam sve tražene dokumente i sada će mi vratiti depozit i poništiti sve moje dobitke, ovako ne treba da se ponaša kazino koji je pridružen MGA autoritetu. Očajan sam i aktivno tražim nekoga da mi pomogne u ovoj stvari.
Srdačni pozdravi.
I made an account here last year. After depositing several times I won some money, did the verification and made a withdrawal all without a problem. This year I tried my luck again in this casino with succes, I deposited €50 and won €8000. Once I tried to cash out this amount my account got disabled and only 5 days after I receive a message that my account was closed due to the suspicion of money laundering?! I submitted all requested documents and now they are going to refund the deposit and cancell al my winnings, this is not how a casino that is attached to the MGA authority should behave. I'm desperate and actively seeking for someone to help me in this matter.
Kind regards.
Zdravo,
u takvom slučaju kazino mora pružiti neke jake dokaze. Šta je bilo, pitam se?
Mislim da bi trebalo da podnesete žalbu, to možete učiniti ovdje:
https://casino.guru/complaints/create
Nadam se da ćemo uspeti da sredimo stvari. Nadalje, označili smo ovaj kazino kao novi, pa bi trebali još jednom provjeriti šta se dogodilo.
Hello,
in such a case the casino must provide some strong evidence. What was it, I wonder?
I think you should submit a complaint, you can do so here:
https://casino.guru/complaints/create
I hope we would be able to sort things out. Furthermore, we marked this casino as a fresh one, so we should double-check what has happened.
Prije nekoliko dana sam podnio žalbu, provjerite
I have submitted a complaint some days ago, kindly check it
Iskreno, ne mogu ništa da proverim. Nemam pristup tim datotekama koje ste poslali jer sam dio našeg tima za žalbe.
Ipak ću biti u toku sa napretkom.
Frankly, there is nothing I can check. I have no access to those files you sent because I'm part of our Complaint Team.
I will, however, keep in touch with the progress.
Vidim da je vaša žalba zatvorena kao neopravdana jer ste prekršili odredbe i uslove korištenjem plaćanja treće strane za uplatu depozita.
Htio bih to naglasiti, kako bi i ostali igrači mogli vidjeti:
"Molimo da shvatite da je ovo pravilo prekršeno. Tehnički je veoma teško provjeriti ko je vlasnik načina plaćanja u fazi deponovanja . To se može provjeriti samo tokom verifikacije računa , što se obično radi kada se traži povlačenje . Stoga , odgovornost je igrača da koristi samo dozvoljene načine plaćanja. "
Uvijek čitajte pravila.
Želim vam sreću u budućnosti.
I can see that your complaint was closed as unjustified because you breached terms and conditions by using the third-party payment for placing a deposit.
I would like to stress out that, so even other players can see:
"Please understand that this rule has been breached. Technically it is very difficult to check who’s the owner of the payment method at the depositing stage. This can be checked only during the account verification, which is usually done when a withdrawal is requested. Therefore, it is a player’s responsibility to use allowed payment methods only."
Always read the rules.
I wish you good fortune in the future.
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